Considering current developments in the Middle East, something really serious is taking place there, isn't it? Do you know what exactly is going on? It is continuation of long-time conspiracy of Jews that is now being resumed together by Israel and the US. Perhaps you know that Jews occupy almost half of the seats in the US Congress, hence have power to lobby what they consider necessary. This time they decided that the US will not interfere in the sparkling Israel-Palestine conflict that has been lasting since 1917. Though, earlier on the US usually did so.

Of course, Israel has chosen the only appropriate moment for escalation of conflict - a few days prior G8 summit, where vital matters of energy safety of Europe were to be discussed - these are the most important issues for the EU nowadays owing to considerable problems with Ukraine. Of course, Israel caught everyone by surprise, while in the presence of escalating military conflict in the Middle East, leaders of G8 had to range far and wide from European energy problem to Israel and Palestine - this is exactly what American Jews were aiming at. It is no secret that this is where Russia is involved being a biggest supplier of oil and gas to Europe. Thus and so, Russia will be losing its positions in the world, just as EU will get weaken without Russian supplies.

As for Israel, they use this conflict to upstage themselves, make the world notice that Palestine Arabs are evil that must be wiped off from the face of the earth together with Iran that allegedly supports Palestinians. And this is exactly what America intends to justify its invasion into Iran with.

And this is exactly what America intends to justify its invasion into Iran with.
I think you may very well be right.

Considering current developments in the Middle East, something really serious is taking place there, isn't it? Do you know what exactly is going on? It is continuation of long-time conspiracy of Jews that is now being resumed together by Israel and the US. Perhaps you know that Jews occupy almost half of the seats in the US Congress, hence have power to lobby what they consider necessary. This time they decided that the US will not interfere in the sparkling Israel-Palestine conflict that has been lasting since 1917. Though, earlier on the US usually did so.

Of course, Israel has chosen the only appropriate moment for escalation of conflict - a few days prior G8 summit, where vital matters of energy safety of Europe were to be discussed - these are the most important issues for the EU nowadays owing to considerable problems with Ukraine. Of course, Israel caught everyone by surprise, while in the presence of escalating military conflict in the Middle East, leaders of G8 had to range far and wide from European energy problem to Israel and Palestine - this is exactly what American Jews were aiming at. It is no secret that this is where Russia is involved being a biggest supplier of oil and gas to Europe. Thus and so, Russia will be losing its positions in the world, just as EU will get weaken without Russian supplies.

As for Israel, they use this conflict to upstage themselves, make the world notice that Palestine Arabs are evil that must be wiped off from the face of the earth together with Iran that allegedly supports Palestinians. And this is exactly what America intends to justify its invasion into Iran with.

where do these lunatics come from? Is there a factory somewhere that produces these nuts?:lolhit:

Are they distant relatives of non and quarter pound?

This time they decided that the US will not interfere in the sparkling Israel-Palestine conflict that has been lasting since 1917. Though, earlier on the US usually did so.
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Interesting thing about conspiracy theories.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Perhaps you know that Jews occupy almost half of the seats in the US Congress,Yes, and the other half are Zoroastrians.

You think they read the Avesta and have used it for a basis for new laws?

Probably. But their main agenda is to restore Iran its Zoroastrian roots. That perfectly explains their hostility towards the Iranian government.

where do these lunatics come from?I suspect the Ukraine or Belarus is the country of origin. These guys come in here and post this off-the-wall crap and then never stick around to explain or defend what they say. I really can't guess what they think they're accomplishing. Maybe it's just a low-level bureaucrat in someone's Ministry of Propaganda Internet Forums Department.

doesn't that mean it should be deleted after it losses teh funny?

was this posted by Borat? :lolhit:

I suspect the Ukraine or Belarus is the country of origin.

According to an IP search this one's a domestic loony. Of course, that could be wrong.

The poster is correct about Israel now controlling our government which leads to controlling our military, our foreign policy and our purse strings.

The United States doesn't dare to make a move on the international stage without first getting the blessing of Israel.

While 0iboi77 may have an agenda for his post and his facts are a bit off when it comes to the representation of Jews in the American government the facts show that Jews are ove-rrepresented according to their proportion of the American population. I have littl doubt that this over-representation drives, at least in part, American policy vis a vis the Middle East.


The following statistics are from a pro-Jewish site on the web.


Ten of the 100 U.S. Senators are Jewish. We are five times over-represented in the U.S. Senate because the non-Jewish population votes for Jews not because the candidates are Jewish but because the American population is generally not bigoted.

Likewise, there are 27 Jews in the House of Representatives, constituting 6.5% of the membership. Again we are 3 times overrepresented because religion is not a factor in American politics.

http://jbuff.com/c052302.htm

It should be mentioned that a major driver in foreign policy vis-a-vis Israel are conservative Christians, for reasons not entirely clear to me. And it's not like the Jewish influence on foreign policy is something only they do - Cuban ex-pats in Florida have a major influence on policy as well.

You're right, Lionel. Conservative Christians see the end times coming only after Israel has been fully restored to the Jews. This belief causes them to be uncritically supportive of Israel.

It should be mentioned that a major driver in foreign policy vis-a-vis Israel are conservative Christians, for reasons not entirely clear to me. And it's not like the Jewish influence on foreign policy is something only they do - Cuban ex-pats in Florida have a major influence on policy as well.

In a way, you are correct about the Cubans but their days are numbered as far as having pull in the republican party. Florida is experiencing a heavy influx of other hispanic groups (Puerto Ricans fer example) that lean left and are nullifying the effects of the "I'm pissed off because my family lost everything after the muriel-boat-lift and I want america to invade cuba and give me back what's rightfully mine after 50 years because I'm too friggin lazy to make it on my own here in the United States" cubans.

Israel runs our country, plain and simple. How many jews in the senate or house voted against the invasion of Iraq? Any takers on that one?

heres a list of bought and sold congresspeoples for Israel:

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_Aug_2004/0407027.html

Lets not also forget that our so-called-friend Israel has been caught numerous times spying on America through groups like AIPAC.

Know whats scary?...

Clinton says he would have died for Israel
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=2002%5C08%5C04%5Cstory_4-8-2002_pg1_6

You're right, Lionel. Conservative Christians see the end times coming only after Israel has been fully restored to the Jews. This belief causes them to be uncritically supportive of Israel.

I'd call them "FUNDAMENTALISTS", what a breed of cement heads!

Thirty one Democrats and nine Republicans in Quarter Ton's list. We can where the major part of the problem lies.

The other big part of the problem is George Bush. when it comes to the question of Israel Bush has completely lost his pro-America stance and is willing to place the interest of the United States below tha of Israel. He just came out and in effect told Israel that they had another week in which to attempt to, as army chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, threatened, "turn back the clock in Lebanon 20 years."

It seems George has forgotten that Lebanon is a United States ally with a pro-American government a fact he seems intent on changing. Is it any wonder Arabs hate the United States when our policies in the Middle East are so one sided as to make it impossible for us to be viewed as an honest broker? George Bush has done more harm to our relations with Arabs around the world than any other single person in our country's history.

I started out being pro-Bush but I have slowly come to the conclusion that he has been an almost unmitigated disaster as President.

I started out being pro-Bush but I have slowly come to the conclusion that he has been an almost unmitigated disaster as President.
Stop the presses!

It seems George has forgotten that Lebanon is a United States ally with a pro-American government a fact he seems intent on changing. Is it any wonder Arabs hate the United States when our policies in the Middle East are so one sided as to make it impossible for us to be viewed as an honest broker? George Bush has done more harm to our relations with Arabs around the world than any other single person in our country's history.Actually, he has warned Israel to take care not to destabilize the Lebanese government.

Actually, he has in effect told Israel to take all the time they need and do anything they wish to completely destroy Hizbollah.

Stop the presses!

George Bush could have been a great President but either he allowed himself to be swayed by bad advisors or he simply lied to us from the very beginning.

He had good tax policies, seemed to care about education, was extremely concerned about the safety of the American people.

Slowly but surely he has been captured by interest groups and swayed by concerns other than those with which he should be concerned.

He should not have vetoed the stem cell research bill. While I can see having safeguards against creating fetuses for harvesting he has banned use of even those that are slated to be thrown away or destroyed. Rather than allowing them to be discarded for no purpose mankind would be better served if some good was able to come of them.

His policies vis a vis illegal aliens are horrenous as are his policies concerning our borders especially that with Mexico. He seems more concerned with getting as much of the Hispanic vote as possible coupled with allowing big business to hire cheap labor than with the security of the American people.

His unconditional support of Israel has helped make us an implacable enemy of Arabs around the world including moderate Arabs.

He has created a disaster out of the Iraq peace following a brilliant victory by our forces in the initial stage of the war. He disbanded the Iraqi army rather than culling the high command and Republican Guard and using the rest of the army to maintain order. He outlawed the Baath Party even though they were the only people who knew the day to day running of the country. He disbanded the police force only to have to reconstitute and retrain it. He failed to pursue insurgents with full vigor immediately after the war ended.

In Afghanistan he has vacilated between full prosecution of the war against the Taliban and lip service.

He took an unproductive middle course with our European allies, neither taking a hard line with them or agreeing with them. He has been, to paraphrase The Bible, neither hot nor cold. He has been tepid and succeeded only in alienating former friends.

I gave the President the benefit of the doubt for the longest time but there comes a point when one must say, enough. That time has come.

There are still a few policies with which I am in agreement with The President, but they become fewer and fewer with each passing day.

That was a well-written and nicely stated post, Frogger. I suspect the breaking point for you was the stem cell veto as it will be for many republicans. Bush made a huge mistake on that one.

FWIW: It appears even some in congress are pulling away from the Bush policies, the Iraq mess in particular.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901787.html

where do these lunatics come from? Is there a factory somewhere that produces these nuts?


The same sentiment often comes to mind whenever I read one of your posts, waldo.

EXCEPT THAT I will --on those occasions when the assertions in your posts are debateable-- take the time to refute, or try to refute, your claims with facts, instead of just dimissing the post out-of-hand, as you have done with Oiboi77's post.

His contention that -- ""Israel has chosen the only appropriate moment for escalation of conflict - a few days prior G8 summit, where vital matters of energy safety of Europe were to be discussed"" -- is food for thought.

I'll admit that we don't know if Israel had an ulterior motive for escalating the fighting right before the G8 summit........but it does seem quite suspicious.

Just bombastically screeching --"Aww, where do these nuts come from??!?" -- does little except reveal that you have no refutation for what he is saying.

this post is thread is genius. how could we be so stupid, henry ford was right when he said the jews are all secretly planning on taking over the world

The poster is correct about Israel now controlling our government which leads to controlling our military, our foreign policy and our purse strings.

The United States doesn't dare to make a move on the international stage without first getting the blessing of Israel.

It's the other way around. Israel is little more than the 51st state, created and shaped by American foreign policy.

That is so not true, Freethinker. Israel rarely, if ever considers how a policy will effect the United States. Israel does what it wants, when it wants and how it wants with no thought for the United States.

United States foreign policy has become subservient to Israeli domestic policy to a dangerous extent. One of the first considerations of any U.S. foreign pollicy initiatives is, "How will this effect Israel?" The United States all too often does itself harm on the international stage because of its fawning over Israel.

Bush starts calling in his favors for letting Israel bomb the crap outta Lebanon.

He calls on the Jews to get Bolton approved.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001553.php

That is so not true, Freethinker. Israel rarely, if ever considers how a policy will effect the United States. Israel does what it wants, when it wants and how it wants with no thought for the United States.

I agree completely.

I have no idea what I said that would cause you to think I was suggesting that was not the case.

United States foreign policy has become subservient to Israeli domestic policy to a dangerous extent. One of the first considerations of any U.S. foreign pollicy initiatives is, "How will this effect Israel?"

I agree completely. Excellent point.

The United States all too often does itself harm on the international stage because of its fawning over Israel.

Again, i am in complete agreement.