Ethnic Cleansing and the Art of Camouflage
By Paul Larudee
International Solidarity Movement
November 16, 2004

If you want to fully understand the wall that Israel has built, I advise you to start at the beginning, where its first sections were erected nearly two years ago on land belonging to the villages of Pharaon and Irtah, on the edge of the city of Tulkarem. The living room of Fayez Odah in Irtah offers an excellent view of the 25-foot-high monolith, which has eaten 60% of his land. He and his wife Mona and five children are also in danger of being arrested or fired upon every time they try to farm the remaining 40%, because it is in the “security zone” next to the wall. The structure is even more imposing for being on a raised section of ground, with a sort of ditch in front of it.

That is of course how it appears from the Palestinian side. However, it wouldn’t do to sully the view from the Israeli side, nor to remind the Israeli public of the suffering that is being imposed on the people whose land they covet. Hence the transfer of massive amounts of earth to the Israeli side, where it abuts the wall, creating an attractive but artificial hill, planted with roses in many places. The earth movement also accounts for the lower ground on the Palestinian side. It gives double meaning to the notion of land transfer.

In the northerly direction, the wall continues as far as one can see, puncutated by periodic guard towers reminiscent of a medieval fortress. However, to the south it changes to two parallel electrified chain link fences topped with razor wire that is so dangerous that it is illegal to use for security purposes in many countries. A patrol road runs between the two fences, and sand fields outside the fences with warning signs not to tread on the sand complete the barrier. This type of barrier relies upon width rather than height, and is the structure of choice when the purpose is to directly confiscate more land.

Of course, direct confiscation for the purpose of construction is only a small part of the land transfer. Between Irtah and Pharaon, where the barrier type changes, it suddenly jogs east. This was not the original plan, but the change allows the barrier to be built closer to the villages, placing more of the village land on the opposite (Israeli) side. Without ever explaining why the change was made, the Israeli authorities assured the local Palestinians that the many gates in the barrier would allow them access to their land. The reality has been quite different, with Israel being the party that decides when Palestinians need to go to their land.

Israel apparently also decided that it built the wall too close to Pharaon. Many of the houses in the village were so close to the wall that they were deemed a security threat. In order to assure that there would be sufficient distance between the barrier and the Palestinian homes, therefore, these houses were demolished, dispossessing more than 100 residents.

Restricting access of Palestinian farmers to their land over the last two years has paid off big to Israeli land developers. When land is unused for a specified time, it reverts to the state which, in the case of Israel, turns it over to the Jewish National Fund, the organization that controls 93% of the land in Israel and whose charter requires it to discriminate against non-Jews, a provision which the Israeli High Court has ruled legal under Israeli law. (Israel has no constitution or bill of rights.) In the case of the land of Irtah and Pharaon, much of it is now being cleared of ancient olive trees for use as an industrial park.

However, that is still not enough. A new military road on the Palestinian side now connects two gates in the barrier, enclosing a small section of land that houses nine families. The families must have permission to cross the road, and they are blocked on the other side by the wall. This illustrates a technique of land confiscation that can be used to acquire coveted land that happens to fall inside the barrier, thus confining ever larger numbers of Palestinians inside ever shrinking areas of land.

There is, however, one consequence of wall construction which is not immediately apparent from Irtah and Pharaon. For that you have to go to Mas’ha, farther south, to the home of Hani Omar. Hani’s house is outside (on the Israeli side) of the wall, but a chain link fence topped with razor wire encloses him on three sides. He is thus emblematic of the many Palestinians who are caught in what is known as the “seam zone” between actual Israeli territory and the wall. Tens (and eventually possibly hundreds) of thousands of Palestinians, including entire villages, find themselves in this limbo, with limited access to Palestinian areas but no right to enter Israel. The resulting strangulation may eventually be effective in forcing them out of their homes and into the dwindling lands inside the wall.

When the Berlin wall was built, its purpose was to separate East Berlin from the rest of the city. It was therefore constructed along the line dividing the two, and specifically on the East Berlin side of that line. When Israel built its wall, however, it did not do so along the line separating it from the Palestinian territories. Instead, the projected path of the wall will enclose less than half of the territories yet be more than twice as long as the dividing line with Israel.

Why? The answer can be seen in villages like Irtah, Pharaon and Mas’ha, which illustrate the methods of land seizure made possible by the wall. In addition, the route of the wall makes apparent its intent. As poorly as the wall is designed for security, it is highly efficient in enclosing as many Palestinians as possible in as small an area as possible. Those it does not enclose will eventually be forced inside, while even those inside are not safe from further encroachment. The result is not only a form of gradual ethnic cleansing but also a masterful camouflage of the same. Those who may wish to understand its subtleties would be advised to visit the villages of Irtah, Pharaon and Mas’ha.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/wall-pl.html

The wall cut down on suicide bombings.
If the Pals want the wall down, they should take care of that problem.

Cant really see the farmers on the wrong side of the wall walking into Hamas and saying,'right,enough of this bombing shit,I want my land back'.

brooks - good job ignoring the fact that the Israeli government are nothing but powerful theives using terrorism as an excuse to steal land...

Yeah maybe, but suicide bombings DID go down.
If the Palestinian citizenry want the wall down, there's a very simple solution (simple concept, difficult execution).

Those (the wall) does not enclose will eventually be forced inside, while even those inside are not safe from further encroachment. The result is not only a form of gradual ethnic cleansing but also a masterful camouflage of the same. Those who may wish to understand its subtleties would be advised to visit the villages of Irtah, Pharaon and Mas’ha.

While those who willfully REFUSE to acknowledge what the wall represents (i.e., a form of gradual ethnic cleansing) and what its purpose is will utter simpleminded quips like -- "Well, it cut down on suicide bombings".

Free, if the wall did not cut down on those murderers then Israel wouldn't have a leg to stand on in this argument.
However, due to the inaction or perhaps complicity the of the Palestinian Authority, Israel has a very sound argument in favor of the wall.
The PA could very easily take away Israel's argument by doing something about these killers.
Let's see if they do.

The PA could very easily take away Israel's argument by doing something about these killers.How so? If the attacks continue Israel will say the wall needs to be strengthened. If the attacks stop altogether Israel will say the wall is working to perfection. In either case the wall stays.

How so? If the attacks continue Israel will say the wall needs to be strengthened. If the attacks stop altogether Israel will say the wall is working to perfection. In either case the wall stays.If the suicide bombings do stop, someone's going to notice it sooner or later, and might pressure Israel to tear it down.

I think Sedan hit the nail on the head.Israel is isolating itself from the rest of the middle East,in the long run you will see it trying to intergrate into Europe more.

1. I think Sedan hit the nail on the head.Israel is isolating itself from the rest of the middle East,
2. in the long run you will see it trying to intergrate into Europe more.1. And why would they want to do that Paul?

2. I hope they can contribute to a better Europe the way the Muslims have done for France.

How so? If the attacks continue Israel will say the wall needs to be strengthened. If the attacks stop altogether Israel will say the wall is working to perfection. If the PA can take measures to reduce the murders and show that they are responsible for it Israel will lose the argument, won't they?

Let's hold our breath....starting........NOW.

1. And why would they want to do that Paul?

2. I hope they can contribute to a better Europe the way the Muslims have done for France.
[1]I have come to the conclusion that Israel does not want a settlement with Palestinians,if it means they have to give up any more land.Israel has already started this,in sport for instance,I remember in the European Qualifying for the World Cup,Israel was in the same section as Ireland.Im not sure theyll ever be able to intergrate with their Muslim neighbours,even if they wanted to.
[2]Do I detect a note of sarcasm here Brooks,from my own obsevations in Ireland,Jews keep to themselves mostly,and get on with their lives,Muslims on the other hand cry about everything,thats my own observation,in France they claim,with good grounds,their discriminated against,same as England and Germany.

1. I think not wanting to give up anymore land would be a common hope among all nations. Are the Palestinians willing to give up land for the sake of a settlement?

2. I'm sorry Muslims are treated unfairly in parts of Europe. As emigres, they had a big wide world to choose from. I think it's up to France how people live in their country, not recent immigrants. Sounds mean but it's only fair.

1. I think not wanting to give up anymore land would be a common hope among all nations. Are the Palestinians willing to give up land for the sake of a settlement?

2. I'm sorry Muslims are treated unfairly in parts of Europe. As emigres, they had a big wide world to choose from. I think it's up to France how people live in their country, not recent immigrants. Sounds mean but it's only fair.
[1] Now Brooks,you know as well as I do,that the Palestinians dont have any land to bargin with.Their bargining chip should be 'Guarenteed Security,in Exchange for a Settlement'.
[2]Seems to be a problem everywhere,one which I dont fully understand.
ie,If I lived in America,I would strive to become an American first,Irish second.

Jews keep to themselves mostly.
Years ago (1977), in the town of Paterson, NJ, I met a US citizen born in Austria, and when talking about WWII, of course the "Jew issue" was part of the conversation, he gave me an example of what was happening with Jews in Germany and Austria in the years before WWII and even before WWI. Here is what he said: "In some street of any town there was a bakery run by a family of non-Jews Germans/Austrians, they had been there for ages, then one day another bakery opens in the same street, this new one owned by Jews. So competition started, the Jews would bring down the price of bread from 50 cents to 40 cents, so the German/Austrian family had to bring the price down to 40 cents too, a little later the Jew bakery would bring the price down to 30 cents, so had to do the German/Austrian bakery, until these German/Austrian family went out of business, then the Jew bakery would bring the price of bread back up to 50 or even 60 cents. All the time that it took the Jew bakery to bring down the German/Austrian bakery, the Jew bakery was supported by the Jew community who put money into the Jew bakery in order to keep it running with the sole purpose of making the other bakery collapse. These practices, were noticed by all Germans/Austrians and was one of the reasons they were hated.

Similar thing is what Wal-Mart does in the towns of USA were they get into, they loose money for 2 or 3 years until the old family businesses of that little town can't compete anymore. Some say that it is for the benefit of the community with low prices, but from being independent to become Wal-Mart employees with below poverty levels salaries???

The purpose of Jews to keep themselves alive, besides being in Israel, is to take over the control of the economy all over the world, if it isn't that they already do so.

No I couldnt accept that,what I meant by .keeping themselves to themselves' wasnt an anti Irish thing,what I meant was,their a quiet law abiding society,its a pity more Irish people wernt like them.

If the suicide bombings do stop, someone's going to notice it sooner or later, and might pressure Israel to tear it down.

No one and no organization on earth can *pressure* Israel (read; band of fanatical Zionists) to do ANYTHING. People in the grip of extreme superstition, like religious fanatics the world over, are immune to reason and logic.

Israel ---demonstrably-- wants to maim, and/or kill and/or basically enslave the Palestinian people, and that is what they do.

That is what they will continue to do.

Right up until the day they destroy some Muslim nation or nations..................... along with themselves.

the "Jew issue"...the Jew bakery.... ...the Jew bakery... the Jew community ...the Jew bakery . The purpose of Jews to ..take over the control of the economy all over the world, if it isn't that they already do so.Wow, that's an objective explanation.

The idea of knocking out the competition and then raising your prices is called capitalism. I don't see Home Depot being sent to a concentration camp for it.

The idea of knocking out the competition and then raising your prices is called capitalism. I don't see Home Depot being sent to a concentration camp for it. I don't see a government that favors people over business...

Years ago (1977), in the town of Paterson, NJ, I met a US citizen born in Austria, and when talking about WWII, of course the "Jew issue" was part of the conversation, he gave me an example of what was happening with Jews in Germany and Austria in the years before WWII and even before WWI. Here is what he said: "In some street of any town there was a bakery run by a family of non-Jews Germans/Austrians, they had been there for ages, then one day another bakery opens in the same street, this new one owned by Jews. So competition started, the Jews would bring down the price of bread from 50 cents to 40 cents, so the German/Austrian family had to bring the price down to 40 cents too, a little later the Jew bakery would bring the price down to 30 cents, so had to do the German/Austrian bakery, until these German/Austrian family went out of business, then the Jew bakery would bring the price of bread back up to 50 or even 60 cents. All the time that it took the Jew bakery to bring down the German/Austrian bakery, the Jew bakery was supported by the Jew community who put money into the Jew bakery in order to keep it running with the sole purpose of making the other bakery collapse. These practices, were noticed by all Germans/Austrians and was one of the reasons they were hated.

Similar thing is what Wal-Mart does in the towns of USA were they get into, they loose money for 2 or 3 years until the old family businesses of that little town can't compete anymore. Some say that it is for the benefit of the community with low prices, but from being independent to become Wal-Mart employees with below poverty levels salaries???

The purpose of Jews to keep themselves alive, besides being in Israel, is to take over the control of the economy all over the world, if it isn't that they already do so.Further evidence that the primary cause of hatred toward Jews is jealousy.

Our friend (http://www.richardpryor.com/), a true authority, said it best: "... don't go fu**ing with them jews without no money ... !" A true American hero, that guy.

Wow, that's an objective explanation.
The idea of knocking out the competition and then raising your prices is called capitalism. I don't see Home Depot being sent to a concentration camp for it.

NO!, it is called "MONOPOLY" and the laws of USA are suppose to be against such practices, but the present administration doesn't seem to care that monopolies and oligopolies make a come back, sanctified by Pope Bush.

So you favor that something like Wal-Mart or Home-Depot knock down your family business, that's certainly stupid... And by calling it "CAPITALISM", you imply that it is morally right. Capitalism has no morals, it is like the law of the jungle, we are humans and can't allow it.

Further evidence that the primary cause of hatred toward Jews is jealousy.

I don't think it is jealousy, it was to preserve their businesses alive, competition is fine, but not in the way they practiced it, "a community putting all their money together to bring down non-jew business after business, is just unfair, and it is called MAFIA, rules have to exist, and I would participate in kicking their butts out of my country if they do that.
I don't agree that they were sent to the furnaces for whatever reason the Germans had. But again, I wouldn't allow that they send lots of little business down the toilet just because the owners are not JEWS. So in short, they are hated for their immoral practices, not for being Jews.

If you want a stupid argument to hate JEWS, lets use one that I hear from people with some of the lowest IQ (KKK) ... "They killed Jesus"

MAFIA - Mothers and Fathers Italian Association

MAFIA - Mothers and Fathers Italian Association

M.A.F.I.A. "Morte alla Francia Italia anela!"
("Death to France Italy desires!")

But has gotten a new meaning ..... here in US

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"Association"

So you favor that something like Wal-Mart or Home-Depot knock down your family business, that's certainly stupid...
You're such a Bozo.

It is obvious to all but the most blind that the wall is little more than a land grab disguised as a security fence. The wall is just a continuation of Israeli policy concerning Arab land, ie. grab all you can as quickly as you can in any way you can.

Yes Israel want the wall finished,Hezbollah defeated[which wont happen],Hamas defeated[which wont happen] before they even think about talks,its like demanding all the aces before the cards are dealt.

Bozo.

I guess smart people for you means "going around kissing rich people asses".

It is inmoral to destroy others for capital gain, but that is the difference between Capitalism and Socialism, right?

It becomes more and more obvious with each passing day that one of the greatest errors in the recent history of the world was the creation of the State of Israel in 1948.. In an attempt to assuage allied guilt at the abandonment of European Jewry people were displaced from their homeland, their property confiscated and their rights trampled on in order to give the Jews back the land that had not belonged to them for centuries. The Jews, although only about one third of the population of Palestine were given 54 % of the land while the Moslem and Christian Arabs were given only 46% although they represented two thirds of the population. An artificial nation was created, backed by the West (mainly the United States) and given free reign to carry forth policies aimed at creating Eretz Y'israel. Any illusion of even handedness was abandoned as Israel was held to a lesser standard than her neighbors. Israeli spying on the United States was ignored and active acts of hostility by Israel against the United States (The USS Liberty) were not only ignored but denied. Israel has been supported in its attempts to illegally confiscate Palestinian territory and to deny Arabs within its borders equal protection under the law. Now Israel has been given carte blanche to continue bombing Lebanon back into the stone age although the people of Lebanon are innocent of any crime against Israel.

I don't think it is jealousy, it was to preserve their businesses alive, competition is fine, but not in the way they practiced it, "a community putting all their money together to bring down non-jew business after business, is just unfair, and it is called MAFIA, rules have to exist, and I would participate in kicking their butts out of my country if they do that.
I don't agree that they were sent to the furnaces for whatever reason the Germans had. But again, I wouldn't allow that they send lots of little business down the toilet just because the owners are not JEWS. So in short, they are hated for their immoral practices, not for being Jews.

If you want a stupid argument to hate JEWS, lets use one that I hear from people with some of the lowest IQ (KKK) ... "They killed Jesus"People of almost any race or religion can be accused of engaging in "immoral practices," yet for some reason you choose to hold this against Jews. I'm guessing that if similar accusations were made against another race you would criticize it and denounce it as racism.

Ann Coulter, the voice of the republican party, says ... wipe out all of South Lebanon.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002876726

I love reading her books (in fact I was just reading Godless as I was on the treadmill) but I don't set my political or social policy by her writings.

It is inmoral to destroy others for capital gain, but that is the difference between Capitalism and Socialism, right?

Right. Socialism destroys others for the gain of the state.

Socialists also destroy people for monetary gain. Look how the Kulaks were killed so there farms could be taken over.

I met a US citizen born in Austria, and when talking about WWII, of course the "Jew issue" was part of the conversation, he gave me an example of what was happening with Jews in Germany and Austria in the years before WWII This was 30 years after the beginning of the Holocaust, and this character was still complaining about the Jude. And yet, when Jews bring up that period, some people say "get over it".

The overriding "Jew issue" of that period is their mistreatment. Yet this guy still harbored that resentment and anti-semitism. It's easy to see why Goebbels propaganda task was probably not all that difficult.

What's funny is, if I met someone alive during that period, I don't think the "Jew issue" (definition please) would even come up, unless one of us was obsessing on it.

It is obvious to all but the most blind that the wall is little more than a land grab disguised as a security fence.
That may be, but thanks to the bloodlust of some Palestinians, and the inaction of the PA, Israel can completely justify it.

It's in the leaders' hands to take away Israel's justification. Let's see.

Its probably in the hands of the UN,which is good news for Israel,theyll just ignore any resolution,wire off their buddys on the hill first of course.

Israel can completely justify it. No they can't. Killing civilians no matter who does it is an act of terrorism. You are the one justifying it.

It becomes more and more obvious with each passing day that one of the greatest errors in the recent history of the world was the creation of the State of Israel in 1948.. In an attempt to assuage allied guilt at the abandonment of European Jewry people were displaced from their homeland, their property confiscated and their rights trampled on in order to give the Jews back the land that had not belonged to them for centuries. The Jews, although only about one third of the population of Palestine were given 54 % of the land while the Moslem and Christian Arabs were given only 46% although they represented two thirds of the population. An artificial nation was created, backed by the West (mainly the United States) and given free reign to carry forth policies aimed at creating Eretz Y'israel. Any illusion of even handedness was abandoned as Israel was held to a lesser standard than her neighbors. Israeli spying on the United States was ignored and active acts of hostility by Israel against the United States (The USS Liberty) were not only ignored but denied. Israel has been supported in its attempts to illegally confiscate Palestinian territory and to deny Arabs within its borders equal protection under the law. Now Israel has been given carte blanche to continue bombing Lebanon back into the stone age althogh the people of Lebanon are innocent of any crime against Israel.

Bravo, Frogger.

Excellent post.

Finally ... something that you and I can 100% agree on.

Right. Socialism destroys others for the gain of the state. And who is the State?, but everybody in the country. Socialism distributes the wealth of a nation in a more fair percentage. It is not right that a 2% of the population of a country owns 90% of the wealth (if not more by now, with the help of the elected politicians).

And who is the State?, but everybody in the country. Socialism distributes the wealth of a nation in a more fair percentage.
I wouldn't call having a Robin Hood government exactly "fair."

It is not right that a 2% of the population of a country owns 90% of the wealth
Not right? Perhaps. But fair? Indeed it is.

And who is the State?, but everybody in the country. Socialism distributes the wealth of a nation in a more fair percentage. It is not right that a 2% of the population of a country owns 90% of the wealth (if not more by now, with the help of the elected politicians).

You know, my comment was posted in jest, although there's certainly a little truth to it. And then you post what seems to be a justification for it. How odd.

This was 30 years after the beginning of the Holocaust, and this character was still complaining about the Jude. And yet, when Jews bring up that period, some people say "get over it".
The overriding "Jew issue" of that period is their mistreatment. Yet this guy still harbored that resentment and anti-semitism. It's easy to see why Goebbels propaganda task was probably not all that difficult.
What's funny is, if I met someone alive during that period, I don't think the "Jew issue" (definition please) would even come up, unless one of us was obsessing on it.

I didn't say he was wining, and it was I who asked him about the Jews (I was at that time very interested in the Jewish people, today not anymore), he just gave an example of what was going on with the "Jew Issue" in Germany and Austria before WWII and WWI as well...
I don't agree with what happened to them being human beings too, (or to any other living creature either). But why would any one just remember how bad the Jews had it, there were other groups that the Nazis almost annihilated in those days and no one talks about them, bet it is because they didn't have that much money, right!, do you know how many Slavic people his war machine killed in Eastern Europe? 50 million people died in that war and just 12% (if the numbers are real) were Jews, so who were among the 88% that no one talks about (50% of the dead were from Slavic countries).

Not right? Perhaps. But fair? Indeed it is.

But if one puts in the open how that wealth was adquired then your statement "fair, indeed it is" crumbles.

One would expect plenty of folks in Utah feel much the same way about Mormons taking care of their own at the expense of others.

But if one puts in the open how that wealth was adquired then your statement "fair, indeed it is" crumbles.
What ways do you think the top 2% got ahold of their wealth? Stealing? Come now.

The most likely cause is inheritance, or being high up in the hierarchy of our nation's major businesses. Tell me, what is unfair about those options? Do you object to parents passing their wealth and privelege to their children?

They should take their inherited wealth & sign it over to the government earmarked to help reduce the Federal debt. That way the wealth can be shared with the welfare recipients. Let's see if the klinton's offspring will take the first step after retired prez daddy & senator mommy go off to the next reward.

Inheritance!, is not the bottom of the issue ... In the first place how did that inheritance was there, available for their offspring...
Yes, I do agree that parents pass their assets to their children, but only if it was adquired in a morally right way.

Saint John the Kennedy's father was a rum runner. Bought his way into politics & upper society. Since he was only running booze, that's morally right - correct?

The word you're looking for is "acquired".

Yes, I do agree that parents pass their assets to their children, but only if it was adquired in a morally right way.
What is a "morally right way" in your view?
What if it was from what you consider a "morally wrong way," should the children of today have their inheritance seized because of the actions of their ancestors?

Rarely do I see a rich kid who was born into zillions,recieve any respect.Most of them seem to be bored partygoers,never out of the medias eye.

What ways do you think the top 2% got ahold of their wealth? Stealing? Come now.

""Behind every great fortune is a great crime.""

And YES, the Kennedy fortune is included.

Contrary to what es347 seemingly believes, just because the Kennedys ---like all of the rest of the great fortunes of the wealthiest families of America--- gained their fortune due to great crime does not invalidate the fact that the rest of the wealthy elites did so also.

I was only pointing out one liberalists' favorite - St. John the Kennedy. There's no shortage of millionaire politicians who's fortune can be traced, one way or another, to what's now regarded as criminal activities from the past.

Speaking of the attrocities happening in the Middle East, I found a fantastic letter that a fellow had written to his Senators and Congresspeople.

It could be copied or paraphrased from and sent to every elected representative that every one of us have.

Here it is;

I write to urge the strongest possible sanctions on the outlaw state of Israel.

Israel is intentionally bombing civilians and infrastructure, collective punishment which is blatantly illegal under international law.

We, the United States, are paying for this destruction in two senses.

First, we provide the money. If we did not pay for Israel’s war machine, the Palestinian and Lebanese civilians would not be dead.

Second, we are creating thousands of new terrorists by supporting Israel’s murder of their families and friends. We will suffer for that illegal support for a long time, probably multiple generations.

I believe the United States should:

1. Immediately cease to provide aid of any sort to Israel. No money, no weapons, no intelligence for as long as Israel continues the illegal activities.

2. Cease lying about the causes of the conflict. Israel started this conflict by kidnapping two civilians the day before Palestinians abducted an Israeli soldier. I condemn all instances of kidnapping and abduction. But the initial provocation came from Israel.

3. Stop vetoing UN attempts to place blame where it belongs. The world, and especially the Muslim world, sees our continued refusal to allow the truth to be stated as a double standard. We should either support the rule of law and treat Israel like every other country, or prepare for the massive increase in terrorism we’re generating.

My reading of the administration’s policies is that the President and Vice President want to invade Iran. Since the country (including the military) clearly does not support such an invasion, and is not likely to believe another set of lies from those who lied to generate a war in Iraq, the administration is trying to enter its favored mode — war — through the back door.

There are many possible reasons for this. One is clearly to influence the elections in November by creating fear among voters. It’s also possible that a subset of Bush supporters are hoping this war will be the one that leads to Armageddon.

The administration and its supporters are not simply wasting American lives and dollars. They are making the world drastically more dangerous. They must be stopped. Israel is a sovereign nation and we cannot force it to act according to our views; but we can and should refuse to pay for Israeli military actions that are illegal, immoral, and harmful to US interests in both the short and long term.

Second, we are creating thousands of new terrorists by supporting Israel’s murder of their families and friends. We will suffer for that illegal support for a long time, probably multiple generations.


I don't think Irsaelis and Americans realize that this new wave of violence will only add to the number of terrorists and the resentment that all Arabs, not just Muslims but Christians too, have for America.

"I will take a bomb and put it on me ... and explode it if I could find any Israeli. I would explode it and kill myself and them." He gestured as if stuffing a bomb inside his sweat-stained shirt. "I am not a terrorist, but today if I could, I would blow myself up. It is enough. I want to be a bomb. Israel comes with airplanes and tons of explosives. I want to say to (U.N. Secretary-General) Kofi Annan. Enough!"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060722/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_flight_to_syria

Israel is building prisons to hold Lebanese citizens. The people that enter these prisons, even if they aren't Hezbolla, will never again see the light of day. They will be tortured and then either off'ed or diaappeared. Israel style Abu_Ghraib.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3279762,00.html

Rarely do I see a rich kid who was born into zillions,recieve any respect.Most of them seem to be bored partygoers,never out of the medias eye.


Those are the ones you see. The ones that aren't bored and spending constant time in the media eye just don't get the press.

Here is a list of the twenty five richest people in the United States. How many of their children have you seen in the news?

Rank Name Net Worth ($mil) Age Residence Source
1 Gates, William Henry III 51,000 49 Medina, WA Microsoft
2 Buffett, Warren Edward 40,000 75 Omaha, NE Berkshire Hathaway
3 Allen, Paul Gardner 22,500 52 Seattle, WA Microsoft, investments
4 Dell, Michael 18,000 40 Austin, TX Dell
5 Ellison, Lawrence Joseph 17,000 61 Silicon Valley, CA Oracle
6 Walton, Christy 15,700 50 Jackson, WY Wal-Mart inheritance
6 Walton, Jim C 15,700 57 Bentonville, AR Wal-Mart
8 Walton, S Robson 15,600 61 Bentonville, AR Wal-Mart
9 Walton, Alice L 15,500 56 Fort Worth, TX Wal-Mart
10 Walton, Helen R 15,400 86 Bentonville, AR Wal-Mart
11 Ballmer, Steven Anthony 14,000 49 Redmond, WA Microsoft
12 Anthony, Barbara Cox 12,500 82 Honolulu, HI Cox Enterprises
12 Chambers, Anne Cox 12,500 85 Atlanta, GA Cox Enterprises
12 Johnson, Abigail 12,500 43 Boston, MA Fidelity
15 Adelson, Sheldon 11,500 72 Las Vegas, NV Casinos, hotels
16 Brin, Sergey 11,000 32 San Francisco, CA Google
16 Page, Larry E 11,000 32 San Francisco, CA Google
18 Omidyar, Pierre M 10,200 38 Henderson, NV Ebay
19 Kerkorian, Kirk 10,000 88 Los Angeles, CA Investments, casinos
19 Mars, Forrest Edward Jr 10,000 74 McLean, VA Candy
19 Mars, Jacqueline 10,000 66 Bedminster, NJ Candy
19 Mars, John Franklyn 10,000 69 Arlington, VA Candy
23 Kluge, John Werner 9,000 91 Palm Beach, FL Metromedia
24 Icahn, Carl 8,500 69 New York, NY Leveraged buyouts
25 Redstone, Sumner M 8,400 82 Beverly Hills, CA Viacom

point taken.I dont recognise any,obscene amounts of money involved tho.

Here is a list of the twenty five richest people in the United States. How many of their children have you seen in the news?

The same number that I see enlisted in the military, on the ground in Iraq in battle fatigues, spreading that good 'ol Amuuurican freedom and deeeeemocracy.