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googs
07-11-2006, 07:41 PM
One of Israel's favorite policies include the killing of foreign peace activist. Among the Peace Activists murdered by Israel are Rachel Corrie and Thomas Hurndal. Among the most recent peace activists hunted down by Israel are Phillip Reiss and BJ Lund. Although the IDF failed to kill them, I believe they will continue the process of killing peace activists.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/corrie-articles.html
Brooks
07-11-2006, 07:45 PM
Googs, I don't want to be redundant, but show me the Israeli equivalent of this:
http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html
googs
07-11-2006, 07:57 PM
THose children in the videos were all victims of Israel.
Brooks
07-11-2006, 10:11 PM
THose children in the videos were all victims of Israel.The smiling 4 year olds in the pretty dresses?
They're sitting there listening to one of their moms encouraging them to die.
They're victims alright, but not of Israel.
"There will be peace when Arabs learn to love their children more than then they hate the Jews."
Golda Meir
Frogger
07-11-2006, 10:31 PM
Googs, as soon as you write, one of the favorite activities of Israel is killing peace activist, you have lost the discussion. Had you said something to the effect that it is tragic that Israel has killed peace activists I could have agreed with you but to say it is one of their favorite activities is too far over the top.
Freethinker
07-11-2006, 10:33 PM
Googs, I don't want to be redundant, but show me the Israeli equivalent of this: http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html
There may not be an Israeli equivalent.
But that there is, perhaps, no equivalent is less about an inequality in the two repectives sides hatred for one another than is is about the fact that the lives of an average Palestinian is exponentially more difficult, more unrelentingly harsh, more dangerous, more not-worth-living than the life of the average Israeli.
It is little surprise that the Palestinians --in their desperation-- would be FAR more inclined than an Israeli to views their lives as being worth nothing; that one may as well become a walking bomb and kill himself today and take a few of (what they view as) the occupying oppressors with him as to be shot in the head by a sniper tommorrow.
Freethinker
07-11-2006, 10:37 PM
Had you said something to the effect that it is tragic that Israel has killed peace activists I could have agreed with you but to say it is one of their favorite activities is too far over the top.
Yes......a regretable bit of syntax there.
Maybe he should have substituted the word *common* for the word *favorite*.
googs
07-11-2006, 10:48 PM
These Palestinians live in a military occupied area so they are victims. I had lived in the West Bank. I had to dread the military checkpoints. I had to dread nights without electricity. I witnessed first hand what it is really like to live in a military occupied area. While I lived in Palestine, I had never seen any of those kinds of videos. Maybe because my parents shielded those channels from me. What you see in the media can never be compared to to the torcher Palestinians go through. When you go through this torcher, you can come out of it in many different ways. Most come out with great amounts of animosity. And some of these people use this animosity to teach their children to hate. Some justify to kill Israelis. Some want peace. You shouldn't generalize the whole Palestinian population, Christians and Muslims, as Sucide bombing, Jewish Hating, and terrorizing peoples. There are many people in Palestine and Israel that want peace. But its hard to achieve that peace when the Israeli government acts unjustly. Its hard to achieve that peace when the Israeli goverment is practicing a system of apartheid. Its hard to achieve peace when the Israeli government is building a massive wall that steals the Palestinian land, bars Palestinians from schools, jobs, hospitals, etc. Its hard to achieve that peace when you let the killers of Iman al-hams and other INNOCENT palestinians live their lives freely as if they had not done anything wrong. Its hard to achieve peace when the people controlling the Israelie goverment don't want it.
Brooks
07-11-2006, 10:56 PM
Googs, that was excellent, and very imformative.
Brooks
07-11-2006, 11:08 PM
...the fact that the lives of an average Palestinian is exponentially more difficult, more unrelentingly harsh, more dangerous, more not-worth-living than the life of the average Israeli.That may be, but that has a lot to do with their leadership.
remember when Ehud Barak offered Arafat about 90% of what he was asking for? Why didn't he take it? Why in the videos is he encouraging kids to die while he made it past 70?
Frogger
07-11-2006, 11:09 PM
I agree with Brooks, Googs. Had you posted that originally I would have basically agreed with and sympathized with you.