View Full Version : Did the Romans really feed Christians to the lions?
Dunkirk101
07-10-2006, 12:48 PM
If so.. why? :confused:
paulc
07-11-2006, 06:47 PM
Do you not think it would make great tv.
Travh20
07-11-2006, 09:47 PM
ya they did. christianity wasnt always the dominanat religion on earth, there was a time when they were persecuted heavily. I want reperations!
Frogger
07-11-2006, 10:35 PM
Among other tortures the Romans fed Christians to the lions.
Christians were pacifists who refused to consider the emperor a god. This was dangerously close to sedition in Roman minds. Feeding them to lions was only one way in which they were disposed of. They were sometimes coated in pitch, tied to posts and lit on fire to provide light for banquets. Women were sewn in donkey skins and ravished by male donkeys. They were sometimes blindfolded and tied together and forced to fight with swords.
Christians were definetely persecuted by the Romans.
DrewM
07-12-2006, 12:53 AM
The romans were smart.
paulc
07-12-2006, 04:03 AM
Never heard that one about the donkey before,nasty business.
Vilepagan
07-12-2006, 06:51 AM
Christians were definetely persecuted by the Romans.
Agreed, but it might not have been as common as Hollywood would have you believe.
rendova
07-12-2006, 07:54 AM
From wikipedia:
"The first documented case of imperially-supervised persecution of the Christians in the Roman Empire begins with Nero (37-68). In 64 A.D., a great fire broke out in Rome which destroyed vast portions of the city and economically devastated the Roman population. Nero, whose sanity had long been in question, was widely suspected of having intentionally set the fire himself. In his Annals, Tacitus, states that "to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace" (Tacit. Annals XV, see Tacitus on Jesus). By implicating the Christians for this massive act of arson, Nero successfully capitalized on the already-existing public suspicion of this religious sect and, it could be argued, exacerbated the hostilities held toward them throughout the Roman Empire. Forms of execution used by the Romans included systematic murder, crucifixion, and the feeding of Christians to lions and other wild beasts. Tacitus' Annals XV.44 record: "...a vast multitude, were convicted, not so much of the crime of incendiarism as of hatred of the human race. And in their deaths they were made the subjects of sport; for they were wrapped in the hides of wild beasts and torn to pieces by dogs, or nailed to crosses, or set on fire, and when day declined, were burned to serve for nocturnal lights."
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Nero was criminally insane. He persecuted everybody.
paulc
07-12-2006, 08:33 AM
I read somewhere that they reckon upto 700,000died in the Colosseum alone,and in recent years theyve discovered water systems were they could flood the interior,to reenact naval battles,Im not sure they could even do that with todays knowledge.
DrewM
07-12-2006, 12:01 PM
They had lions eating Christians, we have Xbox's - it's all valid forms of entertainment.
paulc
07-12-2006, 02:11 PM
Nice one,in an Xbox your killed,you press START,in the Colosseum,youve had it.
DrewM
07-12-2006, 02:41 PM
I was joking.
paulc
07-12-2006, 02:51 PM
Dont know,you might be on to something there,dont forget,top gladiators were viewed the same way top sportspeople are today.
rendova
07-13-2006, 07:20 AM
That's true, and if the gladiators fought well, they'd be freed. I think a few of them rose up pretty high in Roman society afterwards....don't you love the movie Gladiator?
The world could use a man like Maximus Decimus Meridius.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity."
paulc
07-13-2006, 07:28 AM
Yea,tho in real life,Russel Crowes a bit of a dick,seen him punch a guy outside a Sydney niteclub for nothing,the guy just stood there.
rendova
07-13-2006, 08:44 AM
Yes, ole Russ does seem to have a bit of an "anger management problem."..I recall when he threw the phone at the one hotel worker in New York, but then again, we all know how rude some of those hotel workers can be, if you don't tip them 98% of your total yearly income...the guy probably had it coming....I say Russ/ Maximus can do no wrong, besides, he's probably a relative, what with his temper and all......:eek:
Frogger
07-13-2006, 09:20 AM
The hotel worker did nothing wrong. The Mad Crowe was having trouble getting a good phone connection to Oz and took out his frustration on an innocent person. He got pissed at the phone and threw it at the head of the hotel worker. Crowe should have been banned from ever again entering the United States.
rendova
07-13-2006, 09:39 AM
That IS what happened, I recall, poor guy, he must have reminded Russell of Commodus.
paulc
07-13-2006, 10:36 AM
Good point Frogger,I often wonder how filmstars and rockstars can enter and leave the US,when they had criminal records,if it was me,theyd just shut the door.
rendova
07-13-2006, 06:04 PM
Soooooooooooooooooooooo....
Please tell us about that criminal record of yours, paul, and be honest....
We have ways to find out the truth.
paulc
07-13-2006, 06:26 PM
Sorry Ren,youd only analyse me.
Frogger
07-13-2006, 06:52 PM
Nah! She'd do an Abner Louima on you and analize you.:bike:
rendova
07-14-2006, 07:46 AM
forgive my ignorance, fellas, but who is Abner Louina?
Is/was he as nice as Nero or Caligula?
(keeping to the Roman topic)
paulc
07-14-2006, 07:54 AM
Frogger,get back online.I wanna know also.
Frogger
07-14-2006, 10:40 AM
Abner Louima was a Haitian immigrant who was brutalized by some New York City police officers. He was taken to the station house and then into the bathroom where he was anally sodomized with a broken broomstick.
Hence, analized.
paulc
07-14-2006, 11:08 AM
Your a wealth of information.
rendova
07-14-2006, 11:37 AM
Those fellas sound as if they'd fit right in at Caligula's court--what a depraved man he was...actually murdered by his own Praetorian.
Imagineer
07-14-2006, 12:15 PM
Those fellas sound as if they'd fit right in at Caligula's court--what a depraved man he was...actually murdered by his own Praetorian.
"Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown." - Shakespeare
paulc
07-14-2006, 12:29 PM
Ah Shakespeare,dont do him in Irish Schools.
es347fan
07-22-2006, 03:39 AM
A gator pit is more suitable for a death sentence than a few lions.
Dunkirk101
07-22-2006, 06:03 AM
From wikipedia:
"The first documented case of imperially-supervised persecution of the Christians in the Roman Empire begins with Nero (37-68). In 64 A.D., a great fire broke out in Rome which destroyed vast portions of the city and economically devastated the Roman population. Nero, whose sanity had long been in question, was widely suspected of having intentionally set the fire himself. In his Annals, Tacitus, states that "to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace" (Tacit. Annals XV, see Tacitus on Jesus). By implicating the Christians for this massive act of arson, Nero successfully capitalized on the already-existing public suspicion of this religious sect and, it could be argued, exacerbated the hostilities held toward them throughout the Roman Empire. Forms of execution used by the Romans included systematic murder, crucifixion, and the feeding of Christians to lions and other wild beasts. Tacitus' Annals XV.44 record: "...a vast multitude, were convicted, not so much of the crime of incendiarism as of hatred of the human race. And in their deaths they were made the subjects of sport; for they were wrapped in the hides of wild beasts and torn to pieces by dogs, or nailed to crosses, or set on fire, and when day declined, were burned to serve for nocturnal lights."
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Nero was criminally insane. He persecuted everybody.
You think this guy might have actually been Adolf Hitler in a past life? :hahanot: