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Jadestone24
06-25-2006, 07:12 PM
I can't say that I don't agree with her Toronto looks a lot different than when I was a kid, It actually looked like a clean city. Now it looks horrible.
Toronto looking tired and dirty
By SUE-ANN LEVY
I wish I could say I'm proud that Toronto will be front and centre today when more than a million people take in the colourful Gay Pride parade.

Or that I'm thrilled to see the outdoor patios and downtown streets packed with people soaking up the sights and sounds of another summer in the Big Smoke.

The fact is, I'm not the least bit proud to show off my city.

The powers that purport to run City Hall refuse to admit it but Toronto is tired, shopworn and suffering from neglect.

I see it whenever I walk in my Yorkville neighbourhood or take my dachsie Kishke to my local park. I've noticed the decay -- many times -- on my marathon training runs north and south of the downtown core.

Despite all of Mayor David Miller's promises to make this city clean and beautiful, the streets still look filthy.

Litter pickup -- even in the high traffic tourist areas where city resources have been targeted -- is hit and miss.

I see a litter vacuum (one of 60 that are used throughout the city) travel down my street and throughout Yorkville each morning. By evening, I often find styrofoam food containers, coffee cups, loose papers, empty pop tins and a pile of butts swirling around the neighbourhood streets.

Last Sunday the garbage bins in Yorkville were so full, I spotted the remains of coffee cups and melted ice cream spewing down the sides.

Bins overflowing

Solid waste general manager Richard Butts says the vast majority of bins downtown get emptied seven times a week and those in high-tourist areas like Yorkville twice on Saturdays and Sundays. There seem to be no shortage of resources dedicated to the daily cleanup efforts or for the 600 special events like today's Pride parade either.

There's $13.8 million budgeted for sweeping, pretty street furniture, flowers and trees in a special three-year Clean and Beautiful Plan. There's a $317,000 Clean and Beautiful City secretariat chock full of bureaucrats devoted to the cause. The mayor even has his own Roundtable on a Beautiful City.

That's on top of the $14.5 million approved in this year's city budget to pick up litter and empty litter bins, $650,000 to clean around parked cars and $14.8 million for street sweeping and flushing.

"I think it's a busy, busy city ... but generally I see an improvement," Butts said, noting that keeping the city clean is also the responsibility of businesses, residents and tourists.

But in fairness, it's hard for any resident to take pride in a city that looks so decrepit. It's not just because of the litter. The sidewalks are cracked, crumbling and, like too many of Toronto's roads, are sorely in need of an overhaul. The city's planter boxes sport thin anorexic trees, if any at all.

This year there's something new to add to this eyesore. Weeds have taken root in the city's parks, in between the cracks of sidewalks and in city planters -- practically anywhere they can proliferate like fungus.

We can thank council's socialists for that. Two years ago they passed an anti-pesticides bylaw, which banned the use of all but a short list of pest control products practically everywhere including on city sidewalks and in city parks.

Transportation general manager Gary Welsh concedes the most effective way of removing the weeds was by using pesticides, as they did before the bylaw. Now they're wrestling to find a "suitable process" to replace pesticides, he said.

As for the sidewalk repairs, Welsh said that is part of the city's overall $300-million backlog in road repairs.

Parks, forestry and recreation general manager Brenda Librecz says they simply don't have the manpower to tackle the weed problem -- that one gallon of pesticides replaces 500 men pulling weeds manually.

Public angry

An alternative $19-million plan to get rid of the weeds in her 1,500 parks and parkettes was turned down by the city's budget committee, she said.

"It's a challenge but the public is angry," she added.

In my local park, the grass -- while cut once a week -- looks dry and patchy. The benches are archaic and the many beautiful trees appear not to have been pruned in ages, judging from the dead branches I fear might land on an unsuspecting resident's head.

Librecz said she should be spending $40 million a year just to maintain her parks. She got $23 million this year. As for the trees, an extra $1 million this year didn't even begin to address the backlog of city trees needing maintenance.

This year her group got $10.8 million to take care of 800 city-operated gardens and planting areas in the city. But that too barely scratches the surface. A proposal to allow neighbourhoods to adopt their parks -- engaging in weeding, flower planting and so on -- was resoundingly nixed three years by the two CUPE unions who rule the roost at City Hall.

As if all of these things don't make Toronto look seedy enough, the aggressive panhandlers have infested the city streets -- including those in my own Yorkville neighbourhood -- plying unsuspecting tourists for loose change.

Negative web reviews

It's gotten so bad the problem has earned the city several mentions this month on the well-used fodors.com website.

Like with most issues at City Hall, His Blondness the mayor and minions continue to bury their heads in their sand about the panhandling problem.

Councillor Jane Pitfield, a mayoral candidate, has tried since April to have council approve a motion asking for a report on a possible quality-of-life bylaw that would end the scourge of panhandling. The mayor keeps stalling her efforts, claiming there are weightier matters to discuss.

Pitfield will try again to have her panhandling bylaw considered a priority at this week's council meeting.

But I won't hold my breath.

If his half-baked efforts to tackle the city's litter problem is any indication, I don't have much faith in the mayor doing anything to clean up the panhandlers.

ivan
06-27-2006, 08:52 AM
takes money to upkeep anything. if people aren't willing to volunteer or pay taxes to get it done, well then..............

Licksore
06-27-2006, 12:08 PM
takes money to upkeep anything. if people aren't willing to volunteer or pay taxes to get it done, well then..............

That's the thing though, we are taxed at 46% already, those tax increases were put in place to initiate programs like this. It's just another example of how the Liberals and Miller wasted tax payers money on themselves.

People pay taxes alright, it's the lazy city workers who are asking for raises because the cost of living is to high, it's an endless cycle of rate increases, tax hikes and strikes (oh my!).

Granted, the citizens shouldn't be acting like little pigglettes themselves, but realisticly, it's easier to toss the trash on teh ground than finding an actual garbage can. It's sad.

paulc
06-27-2006, 12:20 PM
Before you guys go down this road just remember,most Americans think Toronto is in the Third World like the rest of us.

Licksore
06-27-2006, 12:33 PM
most Americans think Toronto is in the Third World like the rest of us.

We know that :)

But there are some problems going on, all related to one another in one way shape or form because of do nothing politicians. We've set a bad example for being environmentaly friendly after our previous PM Paul Martin boasted our air is cleaner than the US's LOL Man, just that alone brings happy memories about the election (no, really, it was the best sitcom on TV!).

We've restricted guns to responsible people but don't penolize those that use them illegaly. They don't call it summer of the gun for nothing. Our border gaurds weren't even armed, and they wonder how the this became a problem..... LOL

Absolutely brutal stuff. These things will no longer be issues anymore, as the new government is making sure the damage control and safe gaurds are in place to prevent this kind of mismanagement and carelessness from ever happening again.

The accountability act was passed on the 17th. HUGE defeat for libbies, and when he made the apology that no other government wanted to delive in a hundred years even after Martin addressing it during an election previous to this one, it's just awsome to watch the libbies and ndpers squirm around in a panic trying to find anything to stop Harper from fixing the issues.

Who needs TV when all you have to do is watch these ELECTED bozo's be "diplomatic' ROFLMAO!!!!

Jadestone24
06-27-2006, 08:45 PM
http://www.math.toronto.edu/toronto/island.jpg

Toronto looks nice on post cards but it doesn't help that the garbage pick up doesn't do their job.

LionelHutz
06-27-2006, 09:26 PM
Before you guys go down this road just remember,most Americans think Toronto is in the Third World like the rest of us.

We do?

Darth Be'lal
06-27-2006, 09:37 PM
I was in Toronto in the 80s, I thought it was a very beautiful city. I guess things just went downhill. Let me see, for those who are familiar with Toronto, we went to a science mueseum, this five story mall full of nothing, a massive zoo that was awesome and an amusement park where I took my first and last ride on a rollercoaster.


Dammit.

paulc
06-28-2006, 01:18 AM
I see jade reversed over her moms poodle.

Cromagnon
06-28-2006, 02:12 AM
I used to visit Toronto in the 70's (from 1975 to 1978), 5 times I was there and loved it. Their subway was modern and very clean, that first time was in April 75, and it was such a change when I visited New York flying out of Toronto, New York after being in Toronto looked to me like city from a far away third world country, and New York's subway looked like having a 2 (in a scale of 1 to 10) while Toronto's subway deserved an 11. Haven't been there since July 1978.
Last thing I remember was that the Yonge/University subway was extending toward the north west. The downtown Eaton's was brand new. And always dropped by (with my friends) at the Yongue Station to have a couple of cold beers and listen to some live band rock, just imagine that almost every band in those days were playing Joe Walsh's "Rocky Mountain Way". I used to live (during my 30 to 60 days visits) in the St. Claire/Dufferin and University/Bloor areas. Ahh!, by the way people in the St Claire Dufferin area talked mostly Italian, and they thought that we were Italians too. That place felt like home because of the warmth of the Italian people, you know, that Latin spirit ...

Montreal was great too, and so was Vancouver.

Just having some flashbacks from the past ......

Jadestone24
06-28-2006, 05:22 PM
I see jade reversed over her moms poodle.

What the hell is that suppose to mean paulc? I have lived in Toronto all my life. I have seen the changes that Toronto has gone through. Yeah in the 70's and 80's it was a nice clean city. Now the brand new trains are all graffiti. The downtown core is overflowing with garbage and when you want to throw something out all the bins are overflowing.

paulc
06-28-2006, 05:25 PM
Hello Jade,I was talking about your avator,chill out babe.

Jadestone24
06-29-2006, 01:07 PM
Oh alright, sorry I just didn't know what it meant. Sorry paul. I was reading about your cabbie company. Good for you. If you don't mind me asking what part of ireland are you from?

paulc
06-29-2006, 01:10 PM
Ive been all over,born on 'the border' County Louth,the wee county,grew up in County Tyrone.

Travh20
06-29-2006, 01:25 PM
if you want to feel good about your city again go visit San Fracisco, shit hole of america, and liberal mecca

googs
06-29-2006, 01:41 PM
Or you can visit third world countries.

Travh20
06-29-2006, 03:10 PM
I know the strets of port au prince and the streets of SF smell the same

paulc
06-29-2006, 05:11 PM
Hmm,rather live in Cali than Haiti tho.

mikezila
05-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Hmm,rather live in Cali than Haiti tho.
i can see how you'd be confused, but that's southern Cali you're thinking of...SF=fog, LA=smog

you can thank me later:thumbs:

mikezila
05-11-2007, 10:02 PM
if you want to feel good about your city again go visit San Fracisco, shit hole of america, and liberal mecca
why go that far? Detroit's right next to Windsor...and in much worse shape than SF!

as an added bonus, they could flee to the safety of Canada by running across the Detroit River.

CarbonBasedLife
05-11-2007, 10:37 PM
I went to Toronto once, thought it was really nice. Sorry to hear about the trash.