Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas has been reluctant to act on Iraq.
He doesn’t see any reason why the United States should declare a date for withdrawal.
He intimated that announcing a withdrawal date would send the wrong message.
Apparently the wrong message would be sent to his home State of Kansas.
Kansas is at the heart of ethanol production. They also pump a lot of oil – oil they normally could not sell unless the price of oil were high – as it is today.
Don’t you see that the big wheels in Kansas are making a lot of money because of the continued instability and war in Iraq? Of course they don’t want the United States to pull out. Of course Senator Roberts would be making these bizarre statements.
I am still amazed that a man from a state that makes up less than 1 percent of the total population of the United States is sitting at the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Do you think that is intelligent?
The reason is obviously not political. It must be economic.
If politicians are pushing democracy internationally for economic reasons isn’t it time for Americans to start thinking of domestic politics economically?
How long will young Americans sit in Iraq defending the interests of Kansas corn farmers and oil men?
How many of our good girls and boys from Missiouri, Kentucky, New Hampshire or Nebraskao or any state must be maimed and killed before the people of Kansas have enough money?

Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas has been reluctant to act on Iraq.
He doesn’t see any reason why the United States should declare a date for withdrawal.
He intimated that announcing a withdrawal date would send the wrong message.
Apparently the wrong message would be sent to his home State of Kansas.
Kansas is at the heart of ethanol production. They also pump a lot of oil – oil they normally could not sell unless the price of oil were high – as it is today.
Don’t you see that the big wheels in Kansas are making a lot of money because of the continued instability and war in Iraq? Of course they don’t want the United States to pull out.

Of course Senator Roberts would be making these bizarre statements.

I am still amazed that a man from a state that makes up less than 1 percent of the total population of the United States is sitting at the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Do you think that is intelligent?The reason is obviously not political. It must be economic.

If politicians are pushing democracy internationally for economic reasons isn’t it time for Americans to start thinking of domestic politics economically?


How long will young Americans sit in Iraq defending the interests of Kansas corn farmers and oil men?
How many of our good girls and boys from Missiouri, Kentucky, New Hampshire or Nebraskao or any state must be maimed and killed before the people of Kansas have enough money?

Cranston, your posts makes several assumptions, all of which are probably false.

First you call the statements of Senator Roberts bizarre. Rather than being bizarre they make perfect sense. Why on earth would we want to announce a time table for withdrawal of troops? By what convoluted reasoning would we want to tell the enemy just how long they had to hold out before the troops would be removed from Iraq?

Are you suggesting some sort of population test before people can be appointed to head certain committies? Are you suggesting that because there are fewer people living in Kansas than in California or New York they are somehow less intelligent and capable? Just what is the purpose of your bringing up the population of Kansas?

Politicians already think of domestic politics economically. Haven't you ever heard of Pork Barrel Politics. Senator Robert Byrd has always thought of domestic politics economically. That is why he is called the King of Pork. Every politician with a desire to be re-elected thinks of domestic politics economically.

'...all of which are probably false.' ?

Nice, frogger. You couldn't have made my points more succinctly for me. You admit you don't know what you are talking about.

Neither, I belive, does Senator Pat Roberts.

Senator Pat Roberts (R-KS), on the Senate’s Treatment of Nominees to the U.S. Supreme Court:

"I'm hopeful through the debate on this nominee, and the next Supreme Court nomination, we can avoid the destructive partisanship that approached the brink of absolutism in ideology.”

'...all of which are probably false.' ?

Nice, frogger. You couldn't have made my points more succinctly for me. You admit you don't know what you are talking about.

And you do? You make suppostitions, none of which you know are true and you think you know what you are talking about. I say those suppositions are most likely not true and you accuse me on not knowing what I am talking about.

Typical liberal doublespeak. Your suppositions are to be taken as true while those of people who disagree with you are to be discounted as false.

I have shown why I feel your statements concerning Mr. Roberts and the State of Kansas are most likely false. You have given no supporting evidence showing why your statements are true.

One of us quite obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. I suggest you look in the mirror to see who it is.

'frogger' - I don't even read your stuff anymore.

Where is the work?
Did you get a raise recently?
How is business in your town?
Just because you haven't gotten a Hollywood Attack lately like the World Trade Center being destroyed doesn't mean there is trouble.

Of course these economic attacks are being appeased. Folks like you don't seem to care that our army is in Iraq but the bombers and murderers come from Saudi Arabia and the perverted Saudi 'kings' continue to rake in trillions of dollars.

If you were really intent on putting America first Saudi Arabia would be your most important issue - but you believe the men and women of the Republican party who are closest to the Saudis and let them continue to mock and humiliate this nation.

Is a something more dead if you starve it or shoot it? Your arguments support the interests of foreign powers and you don't even realize you are doing it.

Cranston, please send me some of whatever it is you are smoking. It is obvious from your posts that you are either drugged or intoxicated because no one in his/her right mind could post the drivel you post.

I am still amazed that a man from a state that makes up less than 1 percent of the total population of the United States is sitting at the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Do you think that is intelligent?

You seem to be of the opinion that people who come from states with large populations are somehow smarter or better than those who come from states with smaller populations. Using your thinking, Abe Lincoln shouldn't have been elected president because his state wasn't one of the more populous ones at the time. They should have elected a New Yorker instead.

If politicians are pushing democracy internationally for economic reasons isn’t it time for Americans to start thinking of domestic politics economically?

Have you spent your life hiding under a rock? Ever since Andrew Jackson introduced the Spoils System domestic policy has had an economic factor. Senators and representatives try their damndest to bring pork back to their home states and districts.

"I'm hopeful through the debate on this nominee, and the next Supreme Court nomination, we can avoid the destructive partisanship that approached the brink of absolutism in ideology.”

You site this as being somehow bad. The man says he hopes partisanship doesn't color the debate on a nominee and you think it is a horrid thing to say, so horrid that you quote it as an example of his extremism. Would you consider him less extreme if he said we should all be partisan and allow ideology to color everything?

Where is the work?
Did you get a raise recently?
How is business in your town?
Just because you haven't gotten a Hollywood Attack lately like the World Trade Center being destroyed doesn't mean there is trouble.

Why did you drag this in out of left field? What does it have to do with at Pat Roberts, Kansas, or any other part of the discussion?

'frogger' - I don't even read your stuff anymore.

I don't consider the fact that you don't even read my stuff anymore to be any great loss. Judging from the calibre and content of your posts I doubt that you are able to read anything much beyond a third grade level anyway.

I want to thank you for quoting me so extensively.:hula:

If I hadn't quoted you so extensively so that I could keep your words in front of me I would never have believed anyone could write something so completely wrong.