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Freethinker
06-13-2006, 08:32 PM
A Final End to History? Bush's Armageddon Wish


John Bolton, a notorious neocon warmonger who could not be confirmed as America's ambassador to the UN by even the compliant and corrupt US Senate, got the job as a recess appointment. He is using the platform to push America into war with Iran.

Bolton told the Financial Times (June 9) that the Bush Regime has no intention of reaching an agreement with Iran.

Time is running out for diplomacy, Bolton told the Financial Times. Iran has a short time remaining in which it can give up its right under the non-proliferation treaty to enrich uranium for nuclear energy or be attacked. Bolton said that US security guarantees for Iran "were not on the table."

There is no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. Every physicist knows that the enrichment requirement for weapons is many times greater than for nuclear energy and that Iran can barely achieve the latter.

Despite the facts, Bolton told the Financial Times: "They've [Iran] got both feet on the accelerator, which is why we have a sense of urgency. Each day that goes by gives Iran more time to continue to perfect its efforts for mass production."

Bolton is lying through his teeth. Bush Regime lies about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and propagandistic references to mushroom clouds convinced the befuddled American public to accept an illegal invasion of Iraq. The same collection of neocon war criminals is again deceiving the American public about Iran.

In his remarks to the Financial Times, Bolton shows himself to be extremely disturbed by the prospect that the diplomatic efforts of Europe, Russia, and China could undermine the Bush Regime's plan to attack Iran. Bolton is doing everything possible to make certain that there is no diplomatic solution.

To help undermine any prospect for peace in the Middle East, Israeli gunboats shelled a public beach and killed or wounded 50 Palestinians.

This was done in order to provoke Hamas into abandoning the long-established cease-fire that Hamas had imposed in the interest of negotiating a Palestinian settlement.

The Israeli government succeeded, and now there will a resurgence of "Hamas terrorism" that Bolton and his neocon compatriots can use to build a frightening spectacle of Muslim terrorism.

The Bush/Olmert axis-of-evil have made it clear that "we don't want no stinking peace."

Writing in Antiwar.com (June 10), University of California Professor Jorge Hirsch explains the tripwire that the Bush Regime has laid for Iran in order to have an excuse to launch an attack on that country.

Just as the Bush Regime planned to attack Iraq and then orchestrated a case based on lies, the Bush Regime has already planned to attack Iran. Only this time nuclear weapons will be used.

Nuking Iran is an essential part of the attack plan. The US lacks the necessary conventional military force to invade and occupy Iran, but the use of nuclear weapons against Iran has a wider purpose.

The neocons are determined not to have any more embarrassments, such as the Iraqi insurgency. By nuking Iran they intend to send a wider message that the US will use every means at its disposal to ensure its hegemony.

The neocons believe that the use of nukes will convince Arabs and the wider world that there is no recourse to accepting America's will.

The neoconservatives could not care less about public opinion. Neocons are contemptuous of the American people. Leo Strauss taught neocons that it was their duty to deceive the clueless American people in order to implement their agenda of global domination.

The neocons believe that they have a perfect right, even the obligation, to manipulate the public through propaganda and black ops in order to create acceptance and support for their wars of aggression.


The neocons are the epitome of evil, and they have succumbed to hubris. Like Hitler when he attacked the Soviet Union, neocons believe that their manipulative skills and use of military power will carry the day for their agenda. Hitler's hubris doomed Germany to destruction. What price will America pay for neocon hubris?

When the neocon nazis nuke Iran it will revive memories in Japan and break the US-Japanese alliance. Japan owns enough US Treasury bonds to be able to destroy both the US dollar and the market for Washington's endless red ink.

Russia, China, India, and even our European lackeys will have it forcefully brought home to them that the US is an out-of-control rogue nation.

They will unify against us. Most likely our bought and paid for puppets in the MIddle East will fall, and Islamic leaders will gain Pakistan's nuclear weapons. Al Qaeda will gain tens of millions of recruits.

Francis Fukuyama's phrase, "the end of history" takes on new meaning.

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS @ COUNTERPUNCH

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06122006.html

DrewM
06-13-2006, 08:37 PM
What an incredibly cynical article. Whatever reality there is in that article is totally spoiled by the cynical and way over the top analysis.

Essentially it's an article easily dissmissed.

Darth Be'lal
06-13-2006, 08:56 PM
Freethinker,

First off, I hate to burst your bubble, but Iran IS working on a nuclear bomb. Not nuclear power, not nuclear research, but a nuclear bomb. The Iranians are sitting on top of one of the largest reserviors of oil on the planet, ask yourself why would Iran want with nuclear power when it's dangerous, difficult, expensive and the Iranians have to depend on foreign countries for the raw materials.

Also, Mr Freethinker, the man who is just so God-damned fond of digging up articles to post on these boards. Do a google on Iranian President's Ahmandinejads latest speeches. Be sure to read the parts about how Israel is going to be destroyed, how their is a clash of civilazations brewing and how Iran is going to win and make the entire world kneel to Islam and the West is going to go to hell. Be sure to read about how Iran intends to ally with Russia, China and North Korea, none of which are terribly famous about trivial things we hold so dear here in the States like human rights.

So, go do your research and come back here and tell me what you find, dammit.

Gotta school these damn people. Gotta get them up to speed on the aspect of what is really going on. Gotta give out the homework so people can educate themselves and realize the wisdom that flows from me. I AM right, the sooner everyone realizes that, the sooner radical islam can be defeated, dammit.

sedan
06-13-2006, 10:37 PM
Essentially it's an article easily dissmissed.Paul Craig Roberts is a former Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration, and a prolific and popular journalist.

Affiliations

He is considered part of the paleoconservative wing of conservatism. In recent years, he has become increasingly known as an opponent of government regulated "free-trade agreements" like NAFTA, and the World Trade Organization, and a critic of the administration of George W. Bush. He is opposed to the Iraq War, and writes frequently on the subject.

He is a member of the controversial VDARE.com editorial collective, an internet group that favors immigration reduction. His writings frequently appear on Antiwar.com, on Lew Rockwell's web site, and Alexander Cockburn's left-wing site CounterPunch.

During the 2004 Presidential Election in the U.S., Roberts endorsed the Democratic candidate, John Kerry, for president. On May 18, 2005, in response to the publication of the "Downing Street memo," Roberts wrote an article calling for Bush's impeachment for allegedly lying to Congress about the case for war.

Of the 9/11 Commission Report, Roberts wrote in 2006, "One would think that if the report could stand analysis, there would not be a taboo against calling attention to the inadequacy of its explanations." (see Criticisms of the 9/11 Commission Report).

Roberts is also a critic of a potential Bush administration attack on Iran. In an August 15, 2005 article, he states "Bush...dismisses all facts and assurances and is willing to attack Iran based on nothing but Israel's paranoia." and concludes the article with a more heated call for impeachment: "The Bush administration is insane. If the American people do not decapitate it by demanding Bush's impeachment, the Bush administration will bring about Armageddon."

Although his criticisms of Bush often align him with the political left, Roberts does not see himself as having changed sides. He continues to praise Ronald Reagan and to endorse many of Reagan's policies, arguing that "true conservatives" were the "first victims" of the Bush administration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts

DrewM
06-13-2006, 11:41 PM
Paul Craig Roberts is a former Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration, and a prolific and popular journalist.

So what? The article is hardly an article that can be taken seriously.

I also agree with Darth 100% - of course Iran is after a nuclear bomb, they have zero need for nuclear power. Would they use a bomb? Probably not, do they have a right to try & get a bomb? Sure. Do we have a right to try and stop them. Damn right we do. It's a dog eat dog world & we can't place our future in the hands of wishful thinking. There is nothing wrong the US doing everything it can to preserve US power in the world & safeguard US citizens.

Darth Be'lal
06-14-2006, 06:54 PM
Roberts is also a critic of a potential Bush administration attack on Iran. In an August 15, 2005 article, he states "Bush...dismisses all facts and assurances and is willing to attack Iran based on nothing but Israel's paranoia." and concludes the article with a more heated call for impeachment: "The Bush administration is insane. If the American people do not decapitate it by demanding Bush's impeachment, the Bush administration will bring about Armageddon."

*sigh* Do you not think that Israel has a right to be paranoid? Considering that there were two attempt by Israel's neighboring countries to wipe it out. Considering that Ahmandinejad has out and out stated that Iran is going to do two things, FIRST acquire nuclear weapons, SECOND wipe out Israel. I'd say that Israel has every right in the world to be "paranoid?" The thing of it is, the rest of the world should be paranoid as well.

Then, there is that statement by Paul Roberts that Bush has to be impeached, not because he broke any laws, but because he's going to go and start a war with Iran. Now the impeachment process is now reduced to a political weapon, geez.

I don't want war. I never want war. Hell, I wish that we could return to the days of 1990 when the threat of the Soviet Union was over and it seemed that there was not going to be another enemy that will trouble the U.S. ever again. War is coming however. The Chinese WILL take Taiwan by force, Iran WILL strike at Israel. It's not a question of if, but of when. The U.S. isn't going to be able to stand aside and feed the Israelis and Taiwanese to its enemies and hope they'll be satisfied.

The least the U.S. is going to have to do is develope an anti-ballistic missile system. The question is whether or not to stop Iran's developement of nuclear weapons or live in a world where the likes of Ahmandinejad has nukes and is able to bully everyone in the Middle East and Europe, dammit.

Freethinker
06-14-2006, 07:26 PM
What an incredibly cynical article.

I agree. But the fact that it is cynical does not invalidate what Roberts says.


Essentially it's an article easily dissmissed.

Yeah.......you *dismiss* it in exactly the same way that many simpleminded people *dimiss* the claim that mankind once sent a spaceship to land on the moon; you simply say -- "That isn't so".

When it comes to debating the facts, you fail to *dismiss* what he says.

Would (Iran) use a bomb? Probably not, do they have a right to try & get a bomb? Sure. Do we have a right to try and stop them. Damn right we do.

Why do we have the "right" to stop them?

Does that then mean that Iran --as well as the rest of the nations of the civilized world-- has every right to stop the US from making nuclear bombs?

Why not?

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