What do you think of this :confused:
Please note that these articles do not an any way reflect any of my views of the war, these are just some things I posted here for the sole purpose of dscussion

U.S. troops beat him to death

The mystery of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's sudden death after surviving a pair of 500-pound bombs dropped on his house became a little clearer today when Iraqi troops said they watched unspecified U.S. troops savagely beat the wounded terror bogeyman.

"The witness said he saw the man lying on the ground, badly wounded but still alive," AP Television News reported today.

"He said U.S. troops arriving on the scene wrapped the man's head in an Arab robe and began beating him. His account cannot be independently verified."

The Pentagon argued that the soldiers were there to "provide medical attention," which apparently resulted in the conscious, alert Zarqawi being dead within moments of their arrival at the scene.


Heres the link: http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/us_troops_beat.php

With yesterday's mysteries forgotten -- how he survived two 500-pound bombs that exploded on his head, how long he lived after the bombing, who finished him off, how he grew back his missing leg, etc. -- the new enigma in the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is the story of his last whispered words.

"He mumbled something, but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said today at a press conference in Baghdad.

Indistinguishable to an American who doesn't speak Arabic, maybe. But Zarqawi was reportedly first attended by Iraqi forces. If they heard his last words, they're keeping quiet about it.

According to the Pentagon, U.S. and Polish forces showed up next.

"We did in fact see him alive," Caldwell said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher, and he did die a short time later."

According to U.S. reports, Zarqawi was conscious, alert and actually tried to hop off the stretcher and run -- luckily for America, he "died" immediately after that escape attempt.

Details of the airstrike and aftermath are changing by the hour. On Thursday, the U.S. military said seven terrorist henchmen were killed in the house along with Zarqawi -- who now seems to have survived the actual bombing.

But by late Friday, the current list of victims included two or three women, a baby and Zarqawi's "spiritual adviser."

More importantly for Washington, Zarqawi's usefulness as bogeyman was dead.

After the Washington Post revealed details in April of what many already suspected -- that Zarqawi was at worst a minor figure who had been turned into a one-man Iraqi insurgency by Pentagon psyops experts -- he was no longer of any use to the Bush Administration.

And his reported death by U.S. hands served the double duty of rare "good news" from Iraq while changing the subject from the outrageous mass murder of innocents by U.S. Marines in Haditha.

Perhaps Zarqawi's last words were, "Mission Accomplished."

heres the link http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/rosebud.php

Heres some more about the war in Afganistan


Afganistan: The other lost war


With all the horror in Iraq, most Americans have forgotten about that other U.S. failure in the wake of 9/11: the war in Afghanistan.

Not only are the Taliban undefeated, U.S. forces in Afghanistan are now flying far more combat missions there than in Iraq.

According to Fox News and Associated Press, the United States made 750 air strikes in the month of May alone -- that's 24 bombing missions per day.

The commander of U.S. air operations in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. Gary L. North, told reporters this week that "insurgents" are stronger than ever.

"We have seen more direct support in Afghanistan that is of a kinetic effect than in Iraq of late," North said, using military code for "we're screwed."

Rebel forces in the provinces of Helmand and Kandahar have been especially effective against the U.S. and NATO troops who have been trying to stabilize the war-torn country for five bloody years without success.

Many Afghans hated the Taliban and longed for the less-fanatical Northern Alliance to win the long civil war that began when U.S.-backed rebels led by Osama bin Laden fought off the Soviet occupiers.

But with the list of civilian casualties and U.S. war atrocities growing weekly -- on May 21 alone, at least 34 innocent Afghans were killed by American bombs -- Afghans are increasingly rooting for the Taliban to rule again.

At least 248 U.S. troops have been killed during the Afghanistan War so far.


Hers the link http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/the_other_lost.php

I think the witness either misinterpreted what he saw, or is an al Qaida sympathizer who is trying to stir up more anti-Americanism.

Here is part of an article from today's (June 12th) NY Times.

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 11 — The top American commander in Iraq on Sunday rejected as "baloney" an account by an Iraqi witness who said a dying man resembling Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader, had been beaten by American troops after warplanes demolished Mr. Zarqawi's safe house with a pair of bombs on Wednesday evening.


The air assault north of Baghdad in the village of Hibhib, near Baquba, was quick and fierce, but did not immediately kill Mr. Zarqawi. The American military now says he died as troops were trying to save him, after initially saying they found him dead when they arrived.

"Our soldiers who came on the scene found him being put in an ambulance by the Iraqi police, they took him off, rendered first aid, and he expired," the American commander, Gen. George W. Casey Jr., said on "Fox News Sunday." He said Mr. Zarqawi "died while American soldiers were attempting to save his life."

In Hibhib, a neighbor who gave his name as Muhammad said that after the second bomb was dropped, he rushed to the home and helped to drag a heavyset man, who he now believes was Mr. Zarqawi, away from the rubble. "He was still alive," said Muhammad, who had given similar accounts to other news organizations.

A few minutes later, he said, the Iraqi police loaded the man into an ambulance, and American troops arrived soon after that, taking the man out of the ambulance and putting him on a stretcher and clearing all Iraqis away. The Americans demanded to know the man's name, and then one struck him with his rifle butt, Muhammad said. The Americans loaded the body of Mr. Zarqawi and several others into helicopters and flew away, he said.

Asked about the allegation of a beating, General Casey said, "The way I respond to the comments of the alleged Iraqi who saw what went on there is, that's baloney, and we've already gone back, looked at it." He also said "the idea that there were people there beating him is just ludicrous."

Another person who identified himself as a witness to Mr. Zarqawi's final moments, interviewed Sunday on Al Jazeera satellite network, made no mention of soldiers striking the man and suggested that American soldiers tore open his clothing in what appeared an effort to revive him.

"The Americans came afterward, they took him out of the ambulance, put him on the ground, and ripped his dishdasha," the witness, Ali Abbas, said in the interview on Al Jazeera. "They were pressing on his chest, wanting him to speak or to respond, and they brought a bottle of water but he didn't take it."

U.S. troops beat him to death!
http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/the_other_lost.php

If it was true, I wouldn't be surprised!, it isn't just US soldiers who would do such things, soldiers from other countries would do so too!
Soldiers are killing machines, hardly any morals at all ...

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The first story is bullshit.

The second is myopic. Anyone following Afghanistan knows that up until recently coalition forces have had minimal presence in the southern provinces. The Taliban have maintained their presence. NATO is moving more forces into the southern provinces so naturally there is going to be more fighting. In all these fights the taliban/AQ have come off much the worse.

Abu Musab die fro m the bombe. this are no t possible the soldiers kill him. the bombe fall an top o f the house.