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slim
06-08-2006, 10:52 PM
We shall see if anyone follows up on this and tries to find out if indeed anything was buried by Saddam's government.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642403/posts

2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)

From: Pentagon/FMSO Website Iraqi Pre-War Documents ^ | June 2 2006 | jveritas

Document Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 dated September 15 2002 is a memo from a General in Saddam Feedayeens to the Supervisor of those Feedayeens who is not other than Uday Saddam Hussein. The memo talks about a hidden large container that contain a Chemical Material and that it was buried under the ground near Fallujah back when Hussein Kamal Hussein was in charge of the Iraqi Military Industrialization Commission. Hussein Kamal was the brother in law of Saddam who fled to Jordan in 1995 exposed to the world that Saddam still have WMD and then Saddam tricked him to come back by granting him amnesty. When he returned to Iraq he was killed by the regime. If what in this document is true that this shows that one of the obvious way to hide the WMD was to bury it under the ground and in this case the difficulty of finding it in a country the size of California.

Beginning of the translation of Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 page 1 and 2.

In the Name of God The Most Compassionate The Most Merciful

The Republic of Iraq

The Presidency of the Republic

Saddam Feedayeens

Secretariat

The Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens

2002/9

The Respected Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens

Subject: Information

Salute and regards Sir

We received information that state the following:

1. A team from the Military Industrialization Commission when Hussein Kamel Hussein was conducting his responsibilities did bury a large container said that it contains a Chemical Material in the village (Al Subbayhat) part of the district of Karma in Fallujah in a quarry region that was used by SamSung Korean company and close to the homes of some citizens.

2. The container was buried using a fleet of concrete mixers.

3. Before the departure of the international inspectors in 1998 a United Nations helicopter flew over the region for two hours.

4. A large number of the region residents know about this container from the large number of machines used to hide it then.

5. It was noticed a non ordinary smell in the region.

6. No official visited the burial site through out the years which give the impression that it is not currently known by the Military Industrialization Commission.

7. Positions for the air defense were digged in the region that surrounds the quarry place without them knowing anything about the container. Also next to it are important headquarters like (Saddam factories-The warehouses of the Commerce ministry- Headquarters of Mujaheeden Khlaq).

Please your Excellency review and order what is appropriate Sir… With regards

Signature

General

Moohsen Abdel Karim Mahmood

General Relations

15/9/2002

End of the translation.


Slim

waldo
06-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Those papers are full of interesting little tidbits aren't they.

Freethinker
06-09-2006, 05:01 PM
2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground

Question.

Why does the title of your post claim --chemical weapons were buried...........but then when we get the link, it specifically states that chemical "material" was buried???

Do you have ANY clue how many times now you been exposed as having lied on these boards?

Have you ever been diagnosed as a pathological liar??.......or is it all just part and parcel of pushing your bullshit, unrelenting-apologist-for-war-crimes, uber-Conservative agenda?

Freethinker
06-09-2006, 05:04 PM
OOOOHHH!!!!!!!.......OOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!....... ......wait!!!!!

I've got it!!!!!!!!!!

You had no clue that there was a vast difference between chemical weaponry and chemical material.

Yeah..........that's probably what it was.

Vilepagan
06-09-2006, 05:46 PM
Question.

Why does the title of your post claim --chemical weapons were buried...........but then when we get the link, it specifically states that chemical "material" was buried???


I really didn't see much point in asking.

Jester
06-10-2006, 12:10 AM
Why does the title of your post claim --chemical weapons were buried...........but then when we get the link, it specifically states that chemical "material" was buried???There were, and still are, dangerous chemical materials in Iraq. For example, it has been reported that there are lethal amounts of dihydrogen monoxide in the Tigris River.

Freethinker
06-10-2006, 09:46 PM
There were, and still are, dangerous chemical materials in Iraq.

Absolutely.

The immense US war machine has been responsible for vast quantities of chemical "material" being deposited there.

What is NOT found in Iraq is chemical "weapons".

On this particular claim, slim is --as usual-- full of shit.

Jester
06-11-2006, 12:47 AM
Yes, but dihydrogen monoxide is used in the manufacture of weapons, including nuclear weapons. What could Saddam Hussein have been doing with it? It's been found all over Iraq and I seriously doubt that the US was responsible for depositing it there.

elp
06-11-2006, 05:54 AM
Yup dihydro monoxide is a major bother all over the world - I even hear there is high concentration i humans globally! Outrageous!

gmsisko1
06-11-2006, 08:17 AM
Under UN resolutions, Saddam was not permitted to have either.

OOOOHHH!!!!!!!.......OOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!....... ......wait!!!!!

I've got it!!!!!!!!!!

You had no clue that there was a vast difference between chemical weaponry and chemical material.

Yeah..........that's probably what it was.

Vilepagan
06-11-2006, 08:23 AM
Under UN resolutions, Saddam was not permitted to have either.

Are you saying that Iraq wasn't permitted to have chemicals of any kind?

gmsisko1
06-11-2006, 09:24 AM
Saddam was not allowed to have Serrin gas. And other deadly chemicals.
They found Serrin gas in Iraq.

Are you saying that Iraq wasn't permitted to have chemicals of any kind?

LionelHutz
06-11-2006, 01:24 PM
Yup dihydro monoxide is a major bother all over the world - I even hear there is high concentration i humans globally! Outrageous!

Indeed. My only question is how many people in this thread are aware of that. Or am I, as usual, not aware that everyone gets the joke?

Freethinker
06-11-2006, 05:31 PM
Under UN resolutions, Saddam was not permitted to have either (chemical weapons OR chemical material)

Big deal.

(a) As far as UN Resolutions go, the Israelis are in violation innumerable times......but I have yet to hear one ReichWing apologist mentioning THAT ongoing, decades long breach of UN resolutions.

(b) The chemical "material" that Saddam had that PLACED him in violation of UN resolutions was SOLD TO HIM by US Corporations, with the explicit approval of the Reagan/Bush Administration.

(c) If slim had dredged up one fucking iota of honesty and named this thread --*Memo Describes Chemical "Material" Found Buried Near Fallujah*, we would not be having this conversation in the first place.

(d) I am familiar with **Sarin** gas, but there is no such substance as "Serrin" gas.

Marijuanifornia
06-12-2006, 10:04 PM
The world's largest stockpile of chemical weapons is leaking at the Bluegrass Army Depot in Richmond, Kentucky.

For decades, these chemical weapons have been sitting in dank underground bunkers, rotting from mildew and age, cracking open, leaking their contents into the ground.

Even after 9-11-01, the base was virtually unguarded.

Just something for you all to think about.

gmsisko1
06-13-2006, 08:44 AM
Israle did not invade a country. Has the UN actually imposed resolutions against Israel?

It is in the Palistinian Charter to drive Israel into the sea.

Iran has threatened to blow Israel off the map.

Are you saying that Israel does not have a right to defend itself?

I bet if Israel was attacked and the US rose to defend Israel, you would

probable scream bloody murder.........okay maybe not.....I hope not.

Big deal.

(a) As far as UN Resolutions go, the Israelis are in violation innumerable times......but I have yet to hear one ReichWing apologist mentioning THAT ongoing, decades long breach of UN resolutions.

(b) The chemical "material" that Saddam had that PLACED him in violation of UN resolutions was SOLD TO HIM by US Corporations, with the explicit approval of the Reagan/Bush Administration.

(c) If slim had dredged up one fucking iota of honesty and named this thread --*Memo Describes Chemical "Material" Found Buried Near Fallujah*, we would not be having this conversation in the first place.

(d) I am familiar with **Sarin** gas, but there is no such substance as "Serrin" gas.

Freethinker
06-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Israle did not invade a country.

?!?!?!?.....They TOOK OVER the country.

Has the UN actually imposed resolutions against Israel?

The fact that you'd even ASK such a question belies your cluelessness on this issue.

It is in the Palistinian Charter to drive Israel into the sea.

Do you blame them?

Iran has threatened to blow Israel off the map.

?!?!?!

Where? When?!? I am anxious to hear your evidence of that claim.

Are you saying that Israel does not have a right to defend itself?

It is going FAR further than ""defending itself""....it needs to stop the genocide against Palestinians.

I bet if Israel was attacked and the US rose to defend Israel, you would probable scream bloody murder.........

You'd win that bet. I'm tired of sending billions in taxdollars to an occupying force (Isreal) that is trying to perpetrate genocide against the country they've appropriated.