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gmsisko1
06-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Saddam's terror training camps
What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal --
and why they should all be made public.
by Stephen F. Hayes

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials.

The secret training took place primarily at three camps--in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak--and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Interviews by U.S. government interrogators with Iraqi regime officials and military leaders corroborate the documentary evidence. Many of the fighters were drawn from terrorist groups in northern Africa with close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria's GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000. Intelligence officials believe that some of these terrorists returned to Iraq and are responsible for attacks against Americans and Iraqis. According to three officials with knowledge of the intelligence on Iraqi training camps, White House and National Security Council officials were briefed on these findings in May 2005; senior Defense Department officials subsequently received the same briefing.

The photographs and documents on Iraqi training camps come from a collection of some 2 million "exploitable items" captured in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan. They include handwritten notes, typed documents, audiotapes, videotapes, compact discs, floppy discs, and computer hard drives. Taken together, this collection could give U.S. intelligence officials and policymakers an inside look at the activities of the former Iraqi regime in the months and years before the Iraq war.

The discovery of the information on jihadist training camps in Iraq would seem to have two major consequences: It exposes the flawed assumptions of the experts and U.S. intelligence officials who told us for years that a secularist like Saddam Hussein would never work with Islamic radicals, any more than such jihadists would work with an infidel like the Iraqi dictator. It also reminds us that valuable information remains buried in the mountain of documents recovered in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past four years.

Nearly three years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, only 50,000 of these 2 million "exploitable items" have been thoroughly examined. That's 2.5 percent. Despite the hard work of the individuals assigned to the "DOCEX" project, the process is not moving quickly enough, says Michael Tanji, a former Defense Intelligence Agency official who helped lead the document exploitation effort for 18 months. "At this rate," he says, "if we continue to approach DOCEX in a linear fashion, our great-grandchildren will still be sorting through this stuff."

Most of the 50,000 translated documents relate directly to weapons of mass destruction programs and scientists, since David Kay and his Iraq Survey Group--who were among the first to analyze the finds--considered those items top priority. "At first, if it wasn't WMD, it wasn't translated. It wasn't exploited," says a former military intelligence officer who worked on the documents in Iraq.

"We had boxloads of Iraqi Intelligence records--their names, their jobs, all sorts of detailed information," says the former military intelligence officer. "In an insurgency, wouldn't that have been helpful?"

How many of those unexploited documents might help us better understand the role of Iraq in supporting transregional terrorists? How many of those documents might provide important intelligence on the very people--Baathists, former regime officials, Saddam Fedayeen, foreign fighters trained in Iraq--that U.S. soldiers are fighting in Iraq today? Is what we don't know literally killing us?

ON NOVEMBER 17, 2005, Michigan representative Pete Hoekstra wrote to John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence. Hoekstra is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. He provided Negroponte a list of 40 documents recovered in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan and asked to see them. The documents were translated or summarized, given titles by intelligence analysts in the field, and entered into a government database known as HARMONY. Most of them are unclassified.

For several weeks, Hoekstra was promised a response. He finally got one on December 28, 2005, in a meeting with General Michael Hayden, principal deputy director of national intelligence. Hayden handed Hoekstra a letter from Negroponte that promised a response after January 1, 2006. Hoekstra took the letter, read it, and scribbled his terse response. "John--Unacceptable." Hoekstra told Hayden that he would expect to hear something before the end of the year. He didn't.



http://www.worldthreats.com/middle_east/terror_training_camps.htm

paulc
06-04-2006, 02:14 AM
Its a bit late for it,but just another attempt by the Administration to try justifying the invasion,Saddam hated Islamic radicals as much as the US,

sedan
06-04-2006, 06:39 AM
From the Wikipedia:

Stephen F. Hayes is a columnist for The Weekly Standard, a prominent American right-wing magazine. He is best known for his series of articles describing alleged links between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist organization. (See Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda). He has written a book on this subject entitled: The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America [ISBN 0060746734]. The book and his series of articles are largely based on a memo from Douglas J. Feith to the U.S. Congress on 27 October 2003 that was based on leaked intelligence from the Pentagon, which it has since called "inaccurate," noting that the information leaked "was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions."[1] Nevertheless, Hayes made the memo the basis of his allegations of a conspiracy between Iraq and al-Qaeda, and his work has been mostly dismissed by counterterrorism researchers. What Hayes called "perhaps the government's strongest indication that Saddam and al Qaeda may have worked together on September 11"[2], for example, is believed by most experts to be a mere confusion over names that sounded alike.[3]

Hayes also gained some attention with a piece attacking former PBS host Bill Moyers whom he claims interviewed "Cornel West, O.J. attorney Alan Dershowitz, and 'Vagina Monologues' playwright Eve Ensler."[4] Bill Moyers replied in a letter to the editor, "He gets it right only once. I have never met or interviewed Alan Dershowitz or Eve Ensler." Moyers summarized the piece famously as "replete with willful misrepresentation, deceitful juxtaposition, and outright error, with a little hypocrisy thrown in for flavor."[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Hayes

gmsisko1
06-04-2006, 07:40 AM
Come on man, what did the current Admin have to do with this article?

Its a bit late for it,but just another attempt by the Administration to try justifying the invasion,Saddam hated Islamic radicals as much as the US,

gmsisko1
06-04-2006, 07:42 AM
Refute the info in the article. You bashing the writer doesn't ammount to anything. You are up against the true info in the article, not the writer.


From the Wikipedia:

Stephen F. Hayes is a columnist for The Weekly Standard, a prominent American right-wing magazine. He is best known for his series of articles describing alleged links between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist organization. (See Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda). He has written a book on this subject entitled: The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America [ISBN 0060746734]. The book and his series of articles are largely based on a memo from Douglas J. Feith to the U.S. Congress on 27 October 2003 that was based on leaked intelligence from the Pentagon, which it has since called "inaccurate," noting that the information leaked "was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions."[1] Nevertheless, Hayes made the memo the basis of his allegations of a conspiracy between Iraq and al-Qaeda, and his work has been mostly dismissed by counterterrorism researchers. What Hayes called "perhaps the government's strongest indication that Saddam and al Qaeda may have worked together on September 11"[2], for example, is believed by most experts to be a mere confusion over names that sounded alike.[3]

Hayes also gained some attention with a piece attacking former PBS host Bill Moyers whom he claims interviewed "Cornel West, O.J. attorney Alan Dershowitz, and 'Vagina Monologues' playwright Eve Ensler."[4] Bill Moyers replied in a letter to the editor, "He gets it right only once. I have never met or interviewed Alan Dershowitz or Eve Ensler." Moyers summarized the piece famously as "replete with willful misrepresentation, deceitful juxtaposition, and outright error, with a little hypocrisy thrown in for flavor."[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Hayes

Vilepagan
06-04-2006, 07:52 AM
Refute the info in the article.

The author cites no sources for his information, he just makes anecdotal statements.


You bashing the writer doesn't ammount to anything.

sedan didn't "bash" anyone, he just posted an article that calls the credibility of Mr. Hayes into question.


You are up against the true info in the article, not the writer.

"True info" eh?...Not according to the sources of his "info".

The book and his series of articles are largely based on a memo from Douglas J. Feith to the U.S. Congress on 27 October 2003 that was based on leaked intelligence from the Pentagon, which it has since called "inaccurate," noting that the information leaked "was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions."[1] Nevertheless, Hayes made the memo the basis of his allegations of a conspiracy between Iraq and al-Qaeda, and his work has been mostly dismissed by counterterrorism researchers. What Hayes called "perhaps the government's strongest indication that Saddam and al Qaeda may have worked together on September 11"[2], for example, is believed by most experts to be a mere confusion over names that sounded alike.[3]


You really need to find better sources sisko.