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Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas
Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News
If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.
Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.
"These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black and tarry," said Ginger Savely, a nurse practioner in Austin who treats a majority of these patients.
Patients get lesions that never heal.
"Sometimes little black specks that
come out of the lesions and sometimes little fibers," said Stephanie Bailey, Morgellons patient.
Patients say that's the worst symptom — strange fibers that pop out of your skin in different colors.
"He'd have attacks and fibers would come out of his hands and fingers, white, black and sometimes red. Very, very painful," said Lisa Wilson, whose son Travis had Morgellon's disease.
While all of this is going on, it feels like bugs are crawling under your skin. So far more than 100 cases of Morgellons disease have been reported in South Texas.
"It really has the makings of a horror movie in every way," Savely said.
While Savely sees this as a legitimate disease, there are many doctors who simply refuse to acknowledge it exists, because of the bizarre symptoms patients are diagnosed as delusional.
"Believe me, if I just randomly saw one of these patients in my office, I would think they were crazy too," Savely said. "But after you've heard the story of over 100 (patients) and they're all — down to the most minute detail — saying the exact same thing, that becomes quite impressive."
excerpt from here (http://www.mysanantonio.com/global-includes/printstory.jsp?path=/news/metro/stories/MYSA051106.morgellans.KENS.32030524.html)
pictures of nasty stuff that comes out of lesions here (http://www.morgellons.org/images.html)
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I actually took time and read these links and the others. All I can say is, ewwww!
*Imp...off to take a bath in bug repellant*
BorgHunter
05-12-2006, 10:35 PM
"The term Morgellons is not in accepted use by the medical community and the syndrome is widely held by the medical community to be a presentation of delusional parasitosis. There is no agreed-upon physical cause or etiology."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons
500lbguerilla
05-14-2006, 06:54 PM
My uncle was just telling me about this. He knew a guy in Vietnam who had this thing. Last time he saw him was when his throat was filled with black crap and he had trouble breathing. They took him to the hospital. Sounds like some crazy fungal infection or something.
The Dude
05-14-2006, 11:32 PM
Very scary!!
BorgHunter
05-15-2006, 12:28 AM
Very scary!!
Yes, a made-up disease by a bunch of paranoid hypochondriacs is very scary. Hopefully our tinfoil hats will be able to protect us from the sheer terror of this nonexistant disease.
The Dude
05-15-2006, 02:29 AM
Its pretty stupid when they make stuff up,then ya dont really know whats fake or real (Thats what is most scary about it)
500lbguerilla
05-15-2006, 07:08 PM
Silly Borg. Wikipedia nor doctors are the end all, be all of knowledge. This disease is quite real and quite nasty. I have no clue where you got the notion that it is "made up"...
Blibblob
05-15-2006, 08:50 PM
http://www.dpref.com/index.html
No known cause, but a bunch of symptoms. Don't just read one paragraph on wikipedia and declare it as fictional. Especially when wikipedia itself doesn't delcare it to be fictional.
http://www.morgellons.org/
Looks pretty real to me.
Most individuals with this disease report disturbing crawling, stinging, and biting sensations, as well as non-healing skin lesions, which are associated with highly unusual structures. These structures can be described as fiber-like or filamentous, and are the most striking feature of this disease. In addition, patients report the presence of seed-like granules and black speck-like material associated with their skin.
Neurological function severely affected
The peripheral nervous system is often affected by this disease, but the most significant element of the infection, appears to be the effect on the central nervous sytem. Nearly all people with this illness report extreme difficulty with mental concentration and short term memory. Mood disorders, such as depression and Bipolar Disorder, are extremely common in this group of patients, affecting well over half of all individuals reporting symptoms of Morgellons Disease.
Deepest Red
05-16-2006, 10:56 PM
Yes, a made-up disease by a bunch of paranoid hypochondriacs is very scary. Hopefully our tinfoil hats will be able to protect us from the sheer terror of this nonexistant disease.
I agree.
Let's just hide in fear fom another made up crisis.
http://www.dpref.com/index.html
No known cause, but a bunch of symptoms. Don't just read one paragraph on wikipedia and declare it as fictional. Especially when wikipedia itself doesn't delcare it to be fictional.
check out the video at http://www.dpref.com/alive.html
I does look rather real...
saycricket
05-19-2006, 08:37 AM
Wow - this looks pretty real to me. Sorry Borg...
Imagineer
05-19-2006, 11:50 AM
The cause being unknown does not make a disease any less real. I am old enough to remember when AIDS was a disease that only a few people had contracted, and the cause was unknown. This sounds like it could be a nasty type of parasitic disease, possibly fungal. It would be interesting to analyze the extrusions, and hopefully someone is doing that.
It is also true that the mind can cause the body to come up with remarkable symptoms, sort of the placebo effect in reverse.
I don't know what the truth is here, but someone should look into it.
BorgHunter
05-19-2006, 12:16 PM
"In February 2005, a similar report on a local Fox affiliate in Duval County, FL, prompted the Duval County Health Department (DCHD) to investigate. Their report concludes:
[...] it was determined after extensive reviewing of these articles that Morgellons Disease is synonymous with delusional parasitosis (CDC, 1999).
DCHD Epidemiology consulted a pediatric dermatologist within the health department for his professional opinion. It was concluded that this is a psychological condition that has been mentioned in literature for hundreds of years."
"One doctor, declining to be named for a news article, indicated that he treats patients simply by placing a cast over the affected area of skin, protecting it from the patient's scratching, which results in healing in a matter of weeks[1]."
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 01:49 PM
Sorry to say this Borg, but you are DEAD WRONG. This is a REAL disease whether you wanna believe it or not. Pull your head out, eh?
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fmp.asp?i=526966
Cathy McDonald
3502 Mabton Highway
Sunnyside, WA 98944
January 6, 2003
To Whom It May Concern:
There is something horrible going on in America and I, and thousands of other people, want to know what is causing this.
If you have not heard of the following organizations, please look them up on the Internet:
Morgellons Skin Pathogen Organization
The National Unidentified Skin Parasites Association
Elliot’s Disease at The Comfort Zone
Please also read Dr. Omar Amin’s article entitled, ”Neuro-Cutaneous Syndrome - A New Disorder,” where he describes skin lesions with fibers and even insect parts inside them. Dr. Amin is a noted parasitologist.
Please also look up skin infestations with Rotifera in Romania. You will find studies by an award-winning doctor.
You could also check with The National Institute of Mental Health and see how many new cases of “delusional parasitosis”: they are getting; many people with this disease are wrongly being told that they are delusional.
Fox TV ran a show entitled, “Mystery Disease,” when a New Hampshire doctor got in touch with them about a patient of his who had received detestable medical treatment from other doctors.
You might also check on Oakville, Washington where it supposedly rained jellyfish blown up by the navy for weeks, a substance which contained human DNA.
Are we really expected to believe that thousands of people, in all walks of life, in all parts of the country, are suffering from the same delusion and mutilating their skin into the exact same lesions somehow? Are we to believe that all of these people are finding a way to cause themselves chronic diarrhea, visual deterioration, neurological problems, hair loss and more? Are we to believe that these people, some of whom are medical professionals, legal professionals and scientists themselves, are also doing this to their kids and their pets? Are we to believe that they are also finding a way to infest their own food and water with living organisms that only they know about, as no “expert” or doctor seems to be able to identify them?
I have had this disease for years. So have my cold-blooded and warm-blooded pets; they did not cause this but many of them have died from it. Veterinarians cannot identify it. Reptile vets and experts cannot identify it.
In 1998 I had a rash on my thighs and severe diarrhea. I called my doctor’s office and asked if they thought it could be scabies, although scabies does not cause diarrhea, which I had been having. They did not want me to come to the office.
I was prescribed Permethrin, over the phone.
When I used it, the rash got worse.
When I called the doctor’s office again, I was told to use the Permethrin again.
This time, the rash turned into skin cysts that erupted into lesions.
I saw tiny white particles coming up through my skin through the Permethrin.
The lesions resembled those seen in several serious parasitic illnesses.
These same lesions are covering thousands of Americans right now.
The itching, burning and stinging from these is the worst thing I have ever experienced.
It is so terrible that one is tempted to cut them out, which I am sure that many people have actually done, and then were accused of mutilating themselves.
If you have not felt this, you could not possibly understand the absolute torture of it.
I finally got into the doctor’s office.
He did now know what was wrong with me
When I asked if it could be cutaneous larva migrans or schistosomiasis, he did not think so.
His nurse, who I heard tell him that she did not know how to do skin scrapings, took skin scrapings at my insistence.
When I told her that she needed to do more than lightly rub the slide over the skin, and needed to get what was in the lesions, she got irritated. An oriental young woman was with the doctor. I do not know whether she was a lab tech or what her position was. She examined the skin scrapings and came back and said that I had worms in my skin. The doctor said that they were skin cells.
When I asked him how hundreds of skin cells would all rise up through my skin when I spread the Permethrin on, he said skin cells are like that.
Shortly after this, when I was out of the office at work one day, I had several calls from a “foreign-sounding” woman who would not leave her name. I have always wondered if it was the woman who was with the doctor, wanting to tell me something, but she did not call back.
I insisted that the doctor run stool tests. He ordered a four-day series but did not test me for Giardia or Crypto (interestingly, a local dairy was fined for contaminating area water with these very things). The local hospital lab ran the tests for two days and refused to finish them , telling me that as they had not yet found anything, nothing was there. When I told them that I had read that some parasites do not show up in every run and they needed to finish them, they would not.
The doctor did not question this.
The stool tests that were done did not include any direct fecal smears; they only did the ones where stool is mixed with various chemicals, which can destroy many parasites.
The doctor prescribed Ultravate skin cream, which made it worse. He gave me Erythromycin, which did not help.
In his notes, which I recently acquired, he noted that I might have factitious disorder and underlying bipolar disorder.
When I got my medical records from him, he did not include the actual copies of lab reports regarding the stool tests or the tests for Schistosomiasis, which I had insisted he do and which I was told were negative.
I developed problems with my toes. At night, they would turn almost black or get dark red and split open, bleeding. They had what looked like tiny fibers all over them. The pain was terrible. One doctor thought it was athlete’s foot and prescribed Griseofulvin. This made it worse.
I went to a podiatrist, who said that the first doctor was nuts and that it was frostbite. I had had this since the middle of summer.
I sought still another opinion.
This doctor flat-out refused to examine me and would not look at my lesions, although I begged him in tears to examine me. I also asked him to look at my tongue, which had developed a deep slit in it, was fuzzy, had ragged edges with what looked like coils under the skin, and was bleeding. He refused to look at it. I left his office angry and very confused at his reaction.
He then called the Sunnyside Mental Health agency and told them that I was mutilating myself; they called me and I was furious but I tried to explain what was going on.
I went to an ear, nose and throat specialist, because my ears had gotten all scabby inside, were bleeding and itched badly; he did not know what was wrong but told me to put vinegar and oil in my ears and wait until winter.
This doctor also witnessed a gaping hole in the left side of my neck. I had had a small mole for years that suddenly grew to three times its normal size and fell off, leaving this hole. He wanted to know what was beneath the bandaid on my neck and I showed him. He asked if it oozed and I told him that it did not. This eventually closed up and I now have another small brown mole there.
I saw a naturopathic doctor who said that I had very thin skin.. She prescribed an herbal mix to drink and, for the skin, a paste of bentonite clay and goldenseal, which she said would draw the organisms out and dry then up. This did help some. I finally got so desperate, after many months of these lesions, that I dosed myself with pyrantel pamoate (antiparasitic medicine). The lesions immediately began to clear up and went away, leaving scars, but the other symptoms did not disappear.
I noticed that a local company that sells in-home water systems, Sunnyside Soft Water Systems, said, in their advertisement, in “The Home Reporter” in big, bold letters, “GETS RID OF HAIRS IN YOUR WATER”.
When I tried to pin them down on what this meant, they would not tell me.
I recently visited them again. They were much more interested in trying to sell me a water system than in the fact that thousands of people are ill and finally told me that they do not know what the hairs are but their system will keep them out.
When this happened, I had been working in programming for developmentally disabled adults for twelve years at a company where I had worked in some capacity since 1982.
I was not considered delusional or hysterical by anyone. My dad was a pharmacist and my mom an English teacher, and I am an educated person.
CON'T on next page....
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 01:50 PM
I came to Washington from Western New York in 1981 and have progressively gotten sicker with strange symptoms since then. There are, however, now people in New York and every state reporting this disease. There are even people in Ireland, the U.K., Greenland and the Netherlands with this disease.
There are at least eight people in Washington registered with Morgellons, one of the organizations studying this. There are many more who are not registered, in my area, which is an agricultural area with lots of dairies, feedlots and the accompanying flies and stench. It has been proven in court that the animal waste sprayed into waste fields can travel airborne up to five miles (Bosma Dairy lawsuit)
The waste from waste fields here has been found to contain Giardia, E. Coli, salmonella, Crypto and four types of intestinal parasites.
There are many people using animal medications, out of desperation, because they are so sick and are getting not only no help from doctors, but are treated with outright hostility.
It seems as though the only prescription drug that people with these symptoms can get from doctors and dermatologists are antipsychotic medicines such as Orap. These drugs are prescribed for delusional parasitosis, even though their manufacturers do not recommend them for this condition, and the physical symptoms are not addressed overtly (note that these medicines contain drugs in the benzimidazole family, many of which are anthelmintic and fungiostatic).
There are many symptoms in addition to the skin lesions, including visual deterioration, diarrhea, bowel and bladder leakage, lumps under the skin, hair loss, rapid tooth decay and loss of teeth, unexplained bleeding in the skin and mouth, loss of body hair and eye lashes and eye brows, strange hair growth, nasal growths and other problems, problems in the ears, similar or identical strange-looking items being discharged from the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, vagina, anus and skin. There are also neurological problems and problems with concentration, etc. which doctors can easily use to diagnose a mental illness where there is not one.
Many of the lesions have what appears to be hair or fiber in them, as well as tiny white, moist particles, all having the same texture and shape. The skin lesions, when certain substances are applied, eject the hairs, fibers, black specks, white specks, what look like tiny white worms, and what look like insects.
There is an article written by a parasitologist, Dr. Omar Amin, entitled, “Neurocutaneous Syndrome (NCS) - A New Disorder,” where he describes skin lesions containing fibers and insect parts.
There is also research being done on a so far undiagnosed illness involving skin lesions under the terms, “Scleromyxoedema-like cutaneous diseases,” “Scleromyxedema-like fibromucinosis,” and “Nephrogenic fibrosing dermopathy”.
There is obviously more than one thing at work here.
We have Onchocerca Americanus here now.
Some people have been diagnosed, in America with Onchocerca, myiasis, Collembola and Rotifera in the skin, unidentified nematodes in the skin and unusual unidentified fungal infections.
Many people are now testing positive for chronic lyme disease, which can cause almost every symptom you can imagine and which can require long, expensive treatment which insurance companies do not want to pay for.
Many standard tests for lyme disease are inaccurate.
Many communities do not want it publicized that lyme disease is occurring because it hurts tourism.
Strains of lyme not included in the CDC’s list have been found in people; if these strains are not tested for, they will not be found.
As the many, many people with similar symptoms have such a variety of exposures to different things, the common denominator could be insects, water or even our food.
Chlorine does not kill these organisms. Many people have applied many substances to try and get rid of these, and the only partial success has been with anthelmintic and antifungal medications.
Interestingly, many people have developed increased symptoms when their doctors told them that they had scabies and prescribed medication for this - none of these people were actually examined using a wood’s light or other apparatus that would make scabies identification definite.
The skin lesions have a very striking and characteristic look. They feel and behave in the same way in all of us who have them. We all find the same things in them and coming out of them. We also find the same things in our nasal secretions, ears, and feces.
I removed two organisms from my feces that I kept alive in a moist container for two weeks. When I put them in, I put them on the bottom. They eventually climbed up the sides. They are shaped like a rounded triangle with a slit in the bottom. The underside looks like the underside of a snail or slug. They have a little “foot” they can extend at one side of their bottom. After two weeks, fine white filaments filled with black specks appeared on them. These filaments then grew into larger white and black filaments with black balls at their end (at 400x). They appear to be fungal so maybe there is a fungus with the parasite. These are the same “fibers” which are coming out of people’s skin.
Tonight I took an apple out of my fridge. It had a large black oval-shaped spot and a hole with puckering around it. It reminded me of the skin lesions. I put thiabendazole on it and watched the skin pucker more and then tiny fibers with balls at their tips emerged from the apple. I have found things in store-bought meat that are the same shape as some of the organisms people are finding in their stool. They have fibers in them. I have opened Minute Maid orange juice concentrate, with oranges from Florida and Brazil, and found many tiny fibers in the liquid. I have removed thin sections from the skin of oranges with this characteristic shape (like a lesion in the orange skin) and observed the same organisms that all these other people are describing as coming out of them. I have found these things clinging to the inside walls of my fridge. Under a magnifying glass or microscope, they are all the same.
There appears to be, as I said, several things going on or one thing with very different developmental stages. These organisms behave partly like a worm, partly like a fungus. They are very strange looking. Many of the ones from the holes in the skin lesions are white and moist, they have a scalloped edge on what appears to be the top, a head-like appendage that extends on a neck from the main body, and a pointed prong or tail at the other end. They remind me somewhat of an acanthocephalan worm (which, by the way, have been found in canned tuna and other fish).
These organisms, whatever they are, when put in a mix of a antiparasitic medicine and water or oil, can sometimes be observed to be slowly moving through the liquid, as if trying to get out of it.
I have found these things clinging on the inside of my toilet, after I have flushed and cleaned it and ascertained that nothing was there. One of the ones from my stool would have covered a quarter and was the characteristic rounded triangular shape with the bottom slit and foot. It was grotesque.
Many, many people have written their local health departments and other agencies that are supposed to be concerned with the health of citizens, and it is astounding to me how many people are not interested, say they think this is awful but it is not their department, or answer with some other bland patronizing attitude.
In response to my letter of concern regarding my skin lesions, diarrhea and other symptoms, the CDC responded that they did not deal with “skin,” and directed me to the NIH/NIMH.
There are also documented cases of humans being parasitized by Gordian worms, which are not generally considered pests and for which no elimination methods are used.
These worms can cause intestinal and tissue damage.
There are organisms being created through the use of trans genics; they have combined a nematode worm with a fungus, to be used for agricultural purposes.
A nematode has been combined with a fiber.
They are making spider silk in goat’s milk.
You would not believe what “they” are doing.
The reduction and elimination of the use of organophosphates has resulted in many organisms not being destroyed that once were.
Biologicals are a big industry.
How do we know that some of the organisms being used and created for use in agriculture, in insect control and the textile industry, to name a few, are not able to not only survive in us, but thrive?
The use of antibiotics in feed animals has resulted in many “superorganisms” that have incredible resistance to medications used to control parasites and other disease-causing organisms.
The military has “weaponized” many organisms.
The suffering that so many people are enduring makes a mockery of our medical system. Doctors should be screaming that they want their patients diagnosed and treated for this. Scientists should be clamoring to investigate it. Health departments should be on the doorstep of everyone who calls them. People have died from complications resulting from this.
A woman named Sue, with a husband and children, at forty plus years of age, with lesions all over her body, died when her heart stopped after developing E. coli and staph in a nursing home. She was there for hip surgery related to a bacterial infection, they say. Those of us with this disease and the knowledge of it know it killed her or greatly contributed to her death.
A man named Elliot with this finally killed himself; he could no longer take the pain of the disease and the disdain of the doctors.
An R.N. in Tennesee who worked in Public Health for thirty years came down with this and received the same treatment that most people get, and was told to take Orap for delusional parasitosis.
She had skin lesions, had lost all of her hair, was losing her vision and having neurological problems.
She ended up at a psychiatrist’s and he was furious with the treatment she had gotten.
He ordered MRI’s and other tests.
The MRI’s showed lesions in the white matter of her brain.
Eye tests showed unidentified particles in her eyes (she was almost blind by this time).
She had to go all the way to Texas to find a doctor who would help her and has now been diagnosed with chronic lyme disease, which has gone through her entire system.
It is detestable that all of us with this have had to buy microscopes, learn about parasites and other diseases that “do not occur in our country”, learn about the engineering of organisms and all of the other related activities for profit, while the professionals wheel and deal and take in their money. We have had to learn about “Neuro worm,” a synthetic, chemically engineered organism, made in Germany, capable of exhibiting behavior, reproducing sexually and asexually, and being programmed for medical tasks. They do not know whether it has consciousness.
Thousands of us can talk about this together and know exactly what each is talking about. The doctors look at us with bemused or irritated expressions when we come to them with something less ordinary than a cold or flu they can diagnose and write a prescription for in ten minutes or less.
The people who belong to the organizations I listed have a lot of very first-hand knowledge of this. We have many specimens but are at a loss as to where to send them to find someone who cares.
I have personally talked with microbiologists who have been threatened with the loss of their jobs if they talk about this.
I have talked with people in labs who have been ordered to lie about specimens or to destroy them.
Some of the people researching this have received death threats.
This is not an isolated problem that will go away. These organisms are permeating everything. They even get into fabric and cause clothing to shred and become deteriorated at an alarming rate. If this sounds impossible, read about the military’s use of nematode worms that could “eat” enemy pavement and concrete. They were supposed to destroy enemy territory. Unfortunately, one cannot tell a worm to only eat the enemy’s property. Project scrapped.
These organisms can encyst and survive in a dry state for a very long time; they are not killed by boiling, microwaving, crushing, freezing or being given such things as Sevin, Drano, Lime Away, bleach and much more.
People who worry about the future need to realize that it has been here for a long time.
While many doctors and others who work supposedly for the public good sit someplace as I write this, complacent and self-satisfied, financially more than comfortable and with egos intact, thousands sit crying, wondering whether they can go on another day or night because they are so sick. Thousands of people as you read this feel as if there are hundreds of wasps stinging them all over their bodies; thousands of people are having up to their tenth course of diarrhea for the day; thousands of people cannot read or even watch tv because their sight is going; thousands of people have no hair on their heads.
If you are reading this late at night, say, around midnight, know that there are many, many people shopping at all-night stores because their faces are so disfigured by lesions that they do not want any more people to see them than necessary.
While you sit with your families, know that many people sit alone because their own families are afraid to be near them and catch whatever this is or because they make their families stay away so as not to give it to them.
If you are a veterinarian in your local feed store buying supplies, the person next to you buying Ivermectin for horses might be buying it for themself because, in spite of the fact that their doctor cannot or will not diagnose or treat them, and in spite of the fact that they have begged their doctor for parasitic medicine, they have been told that “we do not have parasites in this country” or that they are delusional.
As you read this in your warm and safe home, know that people are receiving foreclosure notices because they are too sick to work and, without a diagnosis cannot get disability or financial aid.
As you go forth in the world with confidence and self-esteem intact, know that many, many people venture out in shame because they are disfigured and sick, and have been told that they are delusional while continuing to suffer from all too real physical symptoms caused by a disease that does not exist in America.
Then think about the news stories concerning biological warfare and Cloning and the environment. Think about the fact that many environmental pollutants are tiny and spore-like and that the ash from Mt. St. Helen’s traveled around the world three times. Think about the garbage, filled with living organisms, floating in waters that eventually merge. Think about the big pharmaceutical companies and large health agencies here in American who have experimented and purposefully caused diseases, for which the drug companies then develop cures and are applauded for their humanitarianism (see mycoplasma experiments, Merck, CDC and NIH by the Scott brothers, Canada). Think about the fact that when large numbers of feed animals are crowded together in huge feedlots, infection and parasites increase, as do flies who carry disease and waste that travels as dust through the air you breathe.
Would you be surprised to read that many diseases, such as M.S. and Aids, can be caused on purpose? Would you be upset that a simple tribe of people living in Hawaii (the Fior) were experimented on and almost wiped out , and then when their disease was “discovered” someone involved in causing the disease won a Nobel Peace prize for their work on this? These people were given the equivalent of mad cow disease and the brains of 65% of them turned to mush. There is now mad deer disease, mad elk disease and more.
There is research being done. There are still a few people in America who give a damn. The hordes of people who are suffering with this will not quit or give in and die off. We will keep writing to our officials and to anyone else we can think of. We will organize and put pressure on where it is needed.
There is an old song, “Someone is Crying to be Heard” (Traffic).
Somebody had better start listening.
Cathy McDonald
BorgHunter
03-13-2008, 01:58 PM
Sorry to say this Borg, but you are DEAD WRONG. This is a REAL disease whether you wanna believe it or not.
Pardon me for asking, but do you have a scientific study to prove this?
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 03:10 PM
Pardon me for asking, but do you have a scientific study to prove this?
No "scientific proof" is needed but maybe you oughta ask Cliff that very question, assuming he's still alive.
A MORGELLONS FAIRY TALE FOR DISINFORMED EATERS!
by Cliff Mickelson
CMicke1065@aol.com
December 20, 2006
***
Greetings, Morgellons Afflicted, one and all:
I recently received an emergency email from one of my close associates in London. He wrote to alert me that the uproar at home over the medical issues we raise concerning our condition has grown to Gulliverian proportions.
He informs me that many members of parliament have stood to attack us in session, and many a pacific vicar in a quiet rural parsonage has risen, wroth with wrath, to attack the medical heresy of our reported Morgellons observations.
It has, judging from the tenor of his communication, come to be a question of our loyalty to the state of modern Medicine, as opposed to the veracity of our observations.
He earnestly begs my advice as how to proceed in navigating this tempest.
I reply that it matters to us not a whit what is said by a parliamentary twit.
And we shall continue to report what we have seen with our own two eyes ...
And...
That some people have been observed to break their egg on the small end!
Now, on to matters of similar medical importance
***
My Dear friends:
One must always preserver in matters of truth. We are a certain group of afflicted citizens who KNOW what we see.
We compare what we see with what we are officially TOLD we should see.
And, guess what?....Surprise!....What we see and what we are told to see are two different things.
We report that. Nothing more, nothing less. This then becomes a source of great consternation and excitement among the slaves of convention who would be our masters.
So, are we liars? Are we participants of some grand conspiracy to commit Medical larceny? Such seems the implication.
Heed me well.
If I say I see something and I am reporting that, then others are free to accept or not accept that. I do not demand either from them.
If others say they do not see that then they offer me their opinion.
However...
If others tell me I did not see that, then they call me a liar.
It is THEY who first cross the line. It is THEY who place a demand.
Yet, they may gnash their teeth and rend their clothes to their hearts content.
Let them pull upon their beards to the point of distraction.
For I believe in my own perceptions first.
Then, secondly, AND in the absence of my own observations to the contrary, I will believe in the politically correct conventional wisdom that General Washington will not cross the Delaware in the middle of winter. ESPECIALLY on Christmas Eve!
It's NOT our problem if some people don't want to believe the earth is round.
Those of us who happen to observe with our own two eyes, how the ship's sail grew slowly higher on the horizon, are now free to sail the seas with no fear. We know and trust our own observations. It is WE who will come upon a new world as a result.
If those indebted to fear say to us: "prove it,"
I say to them:
"PROVE IT YOURSELF!"
We have already proved it. To ourselves. Your need for proof is not our concern.
We owe proof to no one.
We owe proof to no one because we are making no obligatory demands of others based upon our observations. We simply report what we see.
So, What is this word "proof" that I hear howled forth so fearfully from the mouths of gargoyles?
It is a curious kind of "Proof" required by this stone cold beast.
It is the "Proof" of a straight jacket that already locks down the mind of those who demand it the loudest.
"Come back to jail" squawk the parrots!
It's lonely here in the straight jacket without you"!
I say: "PROVE IT YOURSELF"
"Proof" is the last refuge of the lazy.
"Prove it" they say. "We are too weak of spirit, too feeble of mind, to rouse the soul to the task."
I say: " PROVE IT YOURSELF"
Proof is not currency to be repaid.
Proof is, however, a debt owed to those upon whom one would make absolute demands.
We make no such demands.
But, Wait! ... Demands are made implicitly upon us!
Ah! Therefore it is WE who are owed the proof!
I say to them...PROVE IT!
You want proof, go earn it yourself.
We have reported what we have seen. No one is requiring an unquestioning, cowed, obedience to our observations.
We have no interest in leading a chain of mental slaves to market.
That is in curious marked contrast to the implicit obedience to convention being demanded by those who will not set their sails.
So it is with the these slaves of fear. They tremble before their master. If these observations terrorize them so, then let them DISPROVE them. You see...it is THEY who owe US!
Many of us recall asking for others to make independent observations at the same time that we made ours! The moment came, and the moment passed, and lo...the silence of the lamb was deafening.
So...Let them grow up to be sheep.
I can't speak for the others who have marked the Medical phenomena in question, but personally, I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.
I owe them nothing.
I demand nothing of them.
It seems, however, that the reverse is not the case.
How soon they forget. In the end, it all comes down to the individual, the universe, the soul, and God.
To thine own self, be true.
And remember this:
Few if any, are the social and science conventions of the past, still extant today.
Those proud gospels, once mighty, now lay prostrate in the garbage of history.
And heaped among them lie the discredited realities of slaves.
Servile realities that once moved nations and burned heretics.
How proud and certain they once were. Yet the orthodoxy they once so savagely embraced is now just another heresy, a failed weathering in the winnowing of time.
And... Where are they now? Those proud medicinal practitioners of leechery? Those who trumped the divine right of past medical practice? Where are their bosom soul mates?....Those lords of the same false spirit who would not bend to look through the odd invention of Galileo? They, and the levers of power they clung to so determinedly, are dust.
Where now, are the mindless minions that did their cruel bidding?
They too, are dust.
Only the simple observations live on, the perceptions of those who reported what they saw with their own two eyes. And ... as a result thereof, conceived in theory, a pregnancy to question convention.
What did it matter, to those who had no intention of ever setting foot on ship, if there were sailors who said the earth was round?
Others may chose to report what they have been programed to think. Let them hug the shores of convention. Perhaps it makes them happy. That is their right. If you or I or others say that we have seen that the earth is not flat, and that it is not the center of the heavens, then let those who choose not to believe, go on about their lives. But should they choose to place themselves in obligation to us. That too, is their free choice. They must, however repay this debt.
To those who would desparage Morgellons....
I say:
Let them Prove it!
-by Cliff Mickelson
BorgHunter
03-13-2008, 03:37 PM
No "scientific proof" is needed
Er, actually, yes, it is.
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 03:52 PM
Er, actually, yes, it is.
Oh, ok. For YOU (and other non-believers) I gues it is :rolleyes: but for the people who are suffering with this affliction, it certainly is not.
The proof is in the pudding but in this case, the fibers, etc etc etc etc.
Napsterbater
03-13-2008, 03:55 PM
My dog has Morgellons, but the vet says that all that silky smooth fur is perfectly normal. I think it's the government doing illegal chemical tests. What can I do to stick it to the man, Scumbelina?
Napsterbater
03-13-2008, 03:57 PM
Sometimes, after I take a really good shit, I see little spots of light dancing around my field of vision. I think this is perhaps a preliminary sign of Morgellons. I think I'm getting it from my dog! I checked my bed tonight, and I found all kinds of stuff that looks really nasty when you put it in a microscope! My doctor won't listen to me. What can I do?
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 03:58 PM
My dog has Morgellons, but the vet says that all that silky smooth fur is perfectly normal. I think it's the government doing illegal chemical tests. What can I do to stick it to the man, Scumbelina?
Aaah, yer poor doggy woggy :rolleyes:
So you wanna stick it to the man, do ya? I'll lend you my trusty crowbar. It does wonders, I tell ya ;)
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 03:59 PM
Sometimes, after I take a really good shit, I see little spots of light dancing around my field of vision. I think this is perhaps a preliminary sign of Morgellons. I think I'm getting it from my dog! I checked my bed tonight, and I found all kinds of stuff that looks really nasty when you put it in a microscope! My doctor won't listen to me. What can I do?
What can you do? You can start by not making fun of sick people.
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 04:00 PM
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=1152225321
'Fiber Disease' Bizarre
Truth Begins To Emerge
Part 1
By Cliff Mickelson
cmicke1065@aol.com
(Written 2004)
We begin today with the continuation of my prior communications and informative discussion with an acquaintance employed as an Asst. Prof. of Pharmacology at a foreign University.
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(Q) .....Have you any relatives that have contracted it?
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No. However, I believe the evidence is overwhelming that this affliction is contagious. It vectors itself in a variety of ways, including via some very common cotton products.
From charting my own profile and that of other victims around the world, (I have a file of cases from nearly every Continent except Antarctica) It is apparent that this organism often engages in a period of latency following initial infection.
The period of latent time involved appears to be subjective to a variety of external and internal factors that I have not focused on nor have I attempted to identify. Preliminary investigation tells me that there may be a connection to a weakening of the immune system that occurs for what ever reason; perhaps one that may even be at the behest of the parasite.
This hiatus I mention above, can be as long as 2 to 4 years. In my case, the time period was nearly 3 or so years from initial contact, (and likely repeated exposure) with the source, until the overt manifestations, (such as production of the macro-hair-like fibers in follicles, scrapes, cuts, wounds) began to occur.
Some extended time before the first noticeable onset of this disease there are often reports by victims of the inexplicable occurrence of a painful rash. This is NOT the short-lived "bulls-eye" Lyme rash.
I have experienced this rash myself. It comes out of nowhere and is pure agony. It itches intensely, but to scratch it is to bleed at once. Nothing that is normally applied to such a condition will have the slightest effect. It tends to appear on extremities such as the ankles, wrists or back of the neck. For some reason, if one ankle or wrist is afflicted the other will usually also show some kind of sympathetic reaction.
This rash defies all convention and can last for as long as 5 or 6 weeks. Then, it disappears as suddenly as it appeared.
A victim simply wakes up one morning and the rash is gone! However, it can frequently reappear, normally a year or so later, but in less severity and with less duration. Then it disappears again just as mysteriously.
This is a signal flag that the victim has been infected by contact with the nematomorphic worm that is vectored in cotton. It can be found in many cotton products. It is especially prevalent in Q-tips, cotton balls for Makeup usage, and in cotton socks and undergarments imported from the far East. The worm can exist indefinitely as an independent form, but it originates as an appendage of the adult "skin fluke" form.
How it gets in cotton, I have no idea. I have even found it contained in sealed medical swabs that were manufactured approx. 6-7 years ago and that have been in storage ever since!
Following the disappearance of the rash, the aforementioned dormancy period of several years can occur before onset becomes evident.
To return to the discussion of the macro "hair-like" fiber, it is important to stress that this form is part and parcel of the parasite.
It is one of the several number of forms that appear to be transitional as well as simultaneously integral to the life form.
This particular form will often be seen growing out of open wounds in a manner that one would expect of a hair. Since hair does not grow out of open wounds, that characteristic is a dead giveaway. Further, unlike a hair, when such a fiber, ("parasite form," is more accurate description) is pulled out with tweezers, there is rarely any pain at all. (unlike with a true hair)
The parasitic macro fiber is usually brown or clearish tan in color.
It exhibits a very close approximation to the size of a normal human hair. As I have noted in past articles, it can often be seen growing side by side with a normal hair from out of the same follicle. The parasite quickly kills the original hair, however, and replaces it as the sole occupant.
It is most disturbing to see numbers of follicles with duel occupants! Open lesions, in conjunction with the fluke form and it's attendant "cotton" worm; the "pepper" seed specks; and the colored micro fibers, will all appear shortly thereafter, provided that the illegal squatters are not served with a prompt eviction notice.
The removal of the above described macro fiber form always effects an immediate relief of the low level throb of pain that is additional and attendant to that of the wound. You will be interested to know that the parasite, in both the fluke form and in the macro fiber form, (or in tandem with each other, as well as in degrees of transubstantiation with each other) appear to have the ability to block the body from healing damage to the skin. This characteristic is reliably consistent time after time.
Any wound where these organisms are extant will remain open or poorly closed for weeks or even months on end. It is during this time that the clear or white colored "cotton" worm is engaged in feeding the home "colony" as an appendage and dependency of the mother form.
As a result of much research and as described above, I can comfortably state that this organism can often multi task. In other words, it can either invade from without, or appear from within, any existing cut or abrasion. Lacking such a convenience, it can create it's own wound in the skin. (The lesions)
It would seem that our little friend has a tendency to do this as a byproduct of the proclivity for eating flesh and blood during the active feeding stage.
The physical removal of all visible forms of the parasite from the wound is most efficacious. The body begins to instantly repair and heal in a normal fashion. Nonetheless, the creature is quick to reappear, often within an hour. Unless vigilance is the order of the day, things soon are back to their original state of affairs.
Another fascinating observation I have made is that the above two-forms of the creature are inordinate devotees of open air and the freedom of wide open spaces. If one binds the wound well and keeps it reasonably air tight, the organism will remain generally passive and the wound will heal at a rate that is much closer to normal.
As an aside, I will mention to you something that you may wish to ponder.
I humor myself that a remote outside possibility exists that this organism is neither plant nor animal, but in fact, an odd and un-natural entity that exhibits characteristics of both flora and fauna.
I do not have the means nor the time to investigate that hunch any further, but it does intrigue me a great deal!
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 04:02 PM
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=1152225321
Q)..... I have read & re-read your emails & poured over the Morgellons links & for
the life of me I can't tell if they are related, identical or completely
separate with absolutely nothing in common.
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I understand your mystification. Allow me to reassure you that they are one and the same. Several points that need to be made here are:
We are dealing with something that no one now living has apparently ever seen before. It certainly does not exist in the Physicians Desk Reference. To compound matters substantially, our subject matter is magnificently designed to mimic specific products and processes of the human body in both the early and, to a point, in the mature states of infection.
To further the consternation, the organism has the irritating facility to react and respond differently to any number of environments it finds itself in. This has let to many surprises for me at times and is a reminder of the risks of working from the assumptions of the evidence of past behaviors.
Therefore, it is natural that a great deal of confusion exists. Many doctors initially sent patients home with a diagnosis of delusional parasitosis, because the patients would point to a bunch of samples of what looked like cloth lint or flakes of dead skin, and say...."Here ya go, Doc"! "There it is"!
I was fascinated by the reports I read from labs that claimed exactly that! Many reports state that the samples submitted by the Doctors, to the labs, either did not register any organism, or came back with a read-out as lint or as skin. I suspect that this may be because the cloaking devices that equip the organism are designed so as to employ methods outside the parameters that standard tests are programed to look for.
I do not believe that it is because "skin" was all that was submitted.
It is an endless source of amazement to me how "First Person" testimony and the validity of the evidence recorded by the eye is supreme in a court of law and will send an accused person to the gas chamber. But, in all other venues, the testimony of the eye is so often readily blinded by the hearsay second hand affidavit and personally unsubstantiated glare of words reflected hypnotically from the pages of a book.
I have read much "sound and fury" about the possibility that the Fiber disease is an opportunistic infection catching a free ride on the likes of Lyme or other pathogens. Were I to subscribe to more sinister viewpoints, I would remark that mixing a bit of the truth with a bit of the untruth is a classic rule of thumb in the game of disinformation and social diversion.
As we may pause to recall, Lyme was quite recently considered to be a very rare affliction. Although I am certain that some people with Lyme may also have additionally contacted this parasite, my belief is that if a "free ride" is being hitched, then it is the other way around.
The hitchhiker may have likely already been sitting "in the car" and not simply "standing on the road" with a thumb sticking out in the classic essence of a homeless microbe in search of a vector; one that is patiently waiting for a ride to come along.
I aver that most opportunistic infection devotees, in the main, are medical professionals who's judgment has become toxic as a result of mixing their particular personality type with an overdose of their own training. The affliction thereby produced, can be understandable but dangerous and/or fatal to those around them.
Excluding the less forgivable "dog in the manger" motivation with some, this type of professional journeyman is actually a cripple. They are unconscious "self-limiters" who find themselves having trouble choking down the fact that they are looking at something that defies text book convention, belies established systems and beliefs, and confounds the resources of all known descriptions contained within the parameters of their professional world.
Subconsciously such an encounter is easily viewed as a threat to many careerists. It is a road that is not drawn on their map and they instinctively know that to travel upon it will detour them to an end-logic destination, the likes of which, they have no wish to go.
Therefore the natural tendency is to find refuge by diverting focus in a direction where they are dealing with established "known quantities" thus, comfort is found categorized minimalist avoidance of the unknown.
In other words:....It's past the border of our road map, so it must not be there..., and/or .....it is some kind of odd side-product that can be minimized, ignored and marginalized by making it a subordinate effect of a known quantity.
Unfortunately, this puts the cart before the horse instead of the horse before the cart.
That is not to say that Lyme is not occurring in cases......
Be that as it may, I notice that most of the patients I have communicated with who have received a diagnosis of Lyme, have not responded fully to the prescribed standard treatment. Although cases may exist, I currently do not have a single case file where a patient who exhibited this parasite, and was diagnosed with Lyme, has been cured by traditional Lyme curatives alone.
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(Q)....Do you know if you were ever bitten by a tick that carried the Lyme spirochete?
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To the best of my knowledge I have not been bitten by a tick at all since I was a child.
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(Q)....Do you also have the fatigue that seems to accompany Morgellons?
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Yes, I did have the fatigue and mental fog that has been noted as a product of the Fiber infection. Additionally I had, and still do to some point, shortness of breath and difficulty negotiating physical objects such as long stairs or climbing a hill.
I attribute the shortness of breath to the fact that my research indicates that the parasite is fond of the respiratory tract. In particular it can often be found to prefer the nasal passages and ear canals. The same effects it creates in those areas, it also creates further down the tract in the lungs. This activity gives an effect of partially occluding the free passage of oxygen into the body via the aegis of the lungs.
I remember the first time I noticed this effect in myself. Although I have always been very physically active all my life, and have never smoked cigarettes, I felt as if I had been suddenly smoking 3 packs a day!
The chronic fatigue and mental fog noticeably lessen when an active program of visible parasite removal is maintained. The first time I engaged in such a program I was amazed at the instant manner in which my energies and cognitive facilities returned. (Extrapolate the social implications and possible significance of that interesting cause and effect, eh?)
Parasite removal not withstanding, in less than 24 hours, the same symptoms of fatigue and fog would re-occur without fail. I came to understand, as a result, that I must devote several hours a day, without fail, to the task of parasite abatement if I were to wish to continue a semi-normal life.
This creature is exceptionally prolific and can reproduce and recover from losses inflicted upon it, at an astounding rate of speed.
I will mention, as per my first letter to you, that traditional poisons, medicines, chemicals, and petroleum products do not truly phase this creature. A direct application of Acetone, Lacquer thinner, or even MEK, (Methol Ethol Ketone) has no noticeable effect upon a colony. It may annoy them a bit, but proportionately, Vaseline vexes them a great deal more. At least the effects of Vaseline forces them to probe the surface in order to see what it is that is gumming up their room with a view.
In the course of my experiments, I have discovered an exception to the rule above. As per my last letter, an application of undiluted Polysul will have an immediate topical effect. I do not recommend this. Polysul is an agricultural compound and can be poisonous. Nonetheless, the result of the application of this compound causes the fluke (feeding station) form of the parasite to break up into an odd tapioca-like substance that is apparent when portions of the transformed parasite is then removed with tweezers. Other than to identify the negative effect of a high sulfur content compound upon the career of our freeloading friend, I have not had the time yet to analyze this phenomena further.
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(Q)...A person who responded to your current STA thread seemed to imply that he
was 'cured'. Do you think it more likely that he is in remission?
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Yes, I noticed that at once. I have contacted this person and asked them for details and for specifics that they feel may be relevant to the situation. I personally believe that remission is more likely than cure. I will be looking forward to hearing from the respondent in question.
(end of part I)
-CliffMickelson
Napsterbater
03-13-2008, 04:03 PM
I found this in my hair last night! Scary!
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/621/image038qq5.jpg
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 04:04 PM
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=1152225098
'Fiber Disease' Bizarre Truth
Begins To Emerge (Part II)
Part 2
Cliff Mickelson
written on
5-25-2004
Re: The Fiber Disease, AKA Morgellons, Elliots Disease, etc.
Greetings one and all:
After several years of desperate work, I am currently achieving excellent results with a curative procedure that has radically reduced my own affliction. I remain hopeful that I will succeed in ridding myself of the disease. At this point I am very close to being free of what is, in my opinion, a rogue bio-agent, or something even stranger and more significant than that.
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(Authors Note ..7/06/06: The above paragraph proved with time to be overly optimistic as once again the organism showed itself capable of responding and succesfully adapting to yet another form of attack)
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We humans have a MAJOR problem on our hands. This is a world epidemic and to compound the damage, we have an official denial in place that further enables the spread of the affliction.
However, based upon my research, it is my opinion that there may be a good reason that "Denial" is the unique official reaction to the Fiber disease!
Does it strike anyone as strange that Ebola, Mad Cow, Aids, and Lord knows how many other dozens of new diseases have emerged in the last few years; all of which are almost immediately acknowledged and accepted as a subject for research by the CDC and other organizations that we charge to protect our health?
BUT NOT Fibers (AKA MORGELLONS)! Curious? Well, I'd say so, at least a wee bit, eh?....So.... Just "why" do we suppose that this is the state of affairs?
I believe I may know the answer to that question!
I don't want to come across as too radical on this affair, but the fact is... that I am extremely radical on this affair! After suffering through all the indignities and grief that this affliction causes, I intend to speak my mind in hopes that I may help others who have been kept in the dark by the ignorance (or worse) of the enlightened.
And.... I don't care what the derm doctor, or the or any of the other paid disinfo folks have to say in their attempts to cloud the truth or to try and cover their tails. Those interested should know that what I have found is very disturbing.
This parasite is using a common material to infect humans that is so wide spread, and is used by humans so universally, that I believe the entire world is at risk. (See Links at bottom) By the way, this is NOT the only way this disease spreads, but it is one of the most effective.
On the positive side.....After more than 2 years of trying nearly medicine, every poison and every herb known to man, I may have finally found something that promises to eliminate or at least stymie the organism.
I don't want to jump the gun prematurely until I am certain that I am on the road to a cure, but I am very excited about this new form of attack on the disease. Lord only knows, NOTHING else has worked at all. After 3 weeks of this new approach I am nearly parasite free. I remove more dead and dying forms (Again, there are at least 5 forms of the same creature) every day.
If I achieve full success with this new regimen, I will post the information at once. In closing, I would like to add that the truth as I suspect it, about this little monster, is proof that fact is stranger than fiction!
Best of Regards:
-CliffMickelson
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 04:05 PM
http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=1152225098
Email is a Q and A exchange between myself and a Doctor of Biology at a foreign University.)
*** (begin snip)
So...To get right to brass tacks and answer your questions:
1) Do you think that the organism that you isolated is the causative agent in Morgellon's?
1A) First, I will have to qualify my answer by saying that at this point there really is no definitive box to put the term "Morgellon's" in. Since the creatures described at Mary's site seem to have been on vacation for the last 300 years of medical history, we have little to really go on in order to answer an inquiry of that nature. I will say that there exist certain points of resemblance to what was described in the past, that taken at face value could connect yesterday with what we now confront in the present.
If, indeed, this is the same creature, then where has it been for the last several centuries, and how do we explain the additional traits the modern organism is exhibiting that are not mentioned in the texts of the Seventeenth Century?
So, I will have to say that, although a connection possibly could exist, I do not personally believe that the creature affecting the human population today is the exact same re-emergent plague of the past.
2) Are your samples that you have mentioned in earlier Posts alive, dead, inactive or do you know?
2A) It is my fervent hope that they have all been effectively dispatched! Should I be wrong, then we, and "Houston" have a lot more than just "A Problem"!
3) Have they been looked at under a microscope?
3A) On what I consider a non profession level, yes. For the record, I do not consider myself to be a professional researcher. I was dragged into this study by the caprice of infection.
So, to explain further, the samples and results that I have on file have not been professionally viewed by a person trained in the use of a tool such as an electron imager, or who would possess free access to high quality equipment found in University labs.
4) This one might sound a little crazy, but Ill try & Explain afterwards. Do you think these are Carbon-based terrestrial life-forms?
4A) Rest assured that NOTHING that I could be asked about these creatures would run the risk of being catalogued as crazy!
As a matter of fact, I have repeatedly entertained the very same notion my self. The odds of them being silicon based forms however is unlikely in my opinion due to the fact that they show a decided preference for eating flesh and body fluids. I may be wrong, but that sounds more like the diet of a carbon based parasite. As for the origin of these little monsters, I would not be surprised in the least were I to find that they are former prodigal inhabitants of an alien world a lot farther away than the one we call San Francisco!
It is more likely that they are an engineered bio-agent.
The more I learn about these forms, the less I know. I am reduced to imagining that what we have is nematomorphic nematode. One that is exquisitely engineered for the human body. There does exist the remote possibility that it is a creature produced of a rogue agricultural experiment that has gone wrong. However, the longer I am involved in studying this organism the more I am convinced that we may be looking at the fabrication of rare genius or at that of another world.
I have recently managed to isolate what I feel is the primary form of this organism in it's active stage in the host body. However, many loose ends remain to be pegged and several of the forms still serve functions that I make no pretense of understanding in the least. I am reduced to educated guesses in those areas.
The primary form of this affliction is NOT the fibers. It is also not the cotton vectored nematomorph. It is instead, a fluke like form so odd as to defy description. From it issue both the worm and the fibers. Now, I must say again that there are 3 other forms of this thing that I have not yet connected to the primary. But, I believe that it eventually will be accomplished. I believe this because the relationship between the different forms is such that (IMO) only two possibilities exist. 1) All stages are manifestations of the same creature in progress, ...or...2) If more than one organism is involved here then they are so closely tied in a symbiotic relationship as to be indistinguishable. In other words they would be more like delegated task performers of the same immediately related species of insect. (such as with bees or ants)
The primary form I mention has an appearance that varies slightly in size and shape. I suspect that this is due to the stage of growth that it is in more than anything else. It closely resembles a flake or a piece of dead skin, and only a trained eye will detect the difference at first. However, nearly all of these forms exhibit two small protuberances at one end such as you might see on a snail or slug with no shell. In fact, a slug with no shell is about the best comparison to other creatures that I can come up with.
This "form" can be exceptionally flat or if it is filled with what look like live birth junior parasites, it can be somewhat swollen. Each of these creatures will posses a single needlelike appendage that is inserted into the body of the host. The creature lives below the top layer of skin and creates a hard calloused look on the top, or surface of the skin. It grows with time in a horizontal or lateral position. It is exceedingly strong and has the capacity to attach itself to the underskin of the host with a tenacity that defies belief. Upon occasion, when grasped with tweezers it can only be removed by ripping it out through the skin as one would the string on a bag of dog food. Despite the force required to do so, the form of the creature apparently has more tensile strength than does human skin because I have yet to see one break in half. They usually come out in one piece. As this form matures it begins to produce the worm. The worm grows out of one end of the creature and can eventually reach several inches in length. It is this worm that causes the lesions as it feeds upon the flesh of the host. Eventually the worm separates from the Fluke like form and goes it's own way.
Interestingly, the form seems to need or seems to prefer access to open air. The skin above where it is located is perforated with hundreds of tiny holes. Out of these holes the organism occasionally extrudes filii or podia that can be plucked with tweezers. The reaction time of this "extrusion" can be quite remarkable. It is stimulated to appear by the stroking of the skin but can retract instantly when a grab with the tweezers misses. >From these extrusions the form also extends mucus that holds within it the colored micro fibers. This mucus like substance appears to be exactly like that produced by the body, except is will usually be full of colored fibers and also contain hundreds of the tiny black "pepperlike" specks that many have speculated are a form of "seed."
The mucus form often appears to function freely on it's own, but only has been found in the respiratory / digestive system and nasal passages of the host. Never on the outside of the skin. However, it will always vector the colored fibers and black specks. It remains possible that it is simply a preliminary or free form incarnation of the primary fluke form.
This particular form has a remarkable way of moving itself around. It will somehow throw a slender thread of mucus across the gap it wishes to bridge and then transfer itself in consecutive "blobs" to the new location by moving through the inside of the thread of mucus the way that water moves in a pipe.
To return to the prior and primary fluke form .... It is my opinion that one of the functions of the extruded filii or podia is to infect itself upon any foreign object that passes within a certain distance. To this end, it can be seen to literally hurl a mucus like substance forth as an object passes by.
Once removed from the host, however, all forms of this creature appear to lose the ability to respond to any kind of stimulus whatsoever, except for the clear nematamorphic "cotton" worm. That particular form can be seen in a frenzy of agitation. It appears to be able to exist indefinitely in isolation. I have samples that are still active despite months of being quarantined. Also, It is interestingly much more active and responsive when it is removed as a free agent than when it is removed attached to the fluke form.
As an aside, one interesting phenomena that I am currently investigating is that when Polysul is applied to the fluke form, it appears to break apart into a number of inert pieces that resemble a sort of "tapioca." This is a consistant reaction and one that I am most curious to understand.
Additionally, it exhibits indifference to the application of many petrol based substances and derivitives that would kill you and I instantly in a proportionate dosage!
Well, That's all I have time for right now. Much more remains to describe. Much of it I have observed but do not understand the function. In some cases I have yet to even establish a purpose. I will bet the farm that this creature is much more complex than anyone currently suspects. I would not be at all surprised to find that it has the capacity to function on a variety of levels that humans do not normally credit to what they call "lower" life forms.
There remains to be said that the infection is both systemic and external. The nature of the manner in which the systemic infection is achieved remains unanswered. It is possible that two forms of the same "Borg" are at work here. One internally and the other externally. My research indicates strongly, that externally, the so called "Pepper" specks do propagate the macro fiber form that grows from open wounds and hair follicles, but not the micro colored fiber form nor the white Cotton thread like nematomorph inhabiting some cotton products. The latter is spun off of the primary fluke form and the former are produced by the mucus form of the fluke, before and during it's metamorphosis into a primary "mother" form.
One last thing. I have observed that the organism seems to be able to respond to changes in it's environment with amazing alacrity. It can evince subtle and not so subtle ajustments in its shape and its ongoing functions. This can translate into a new surprise to be seen every so often.
Unlike most organisms of it's size, It seems to be able to transfer information to others of it's kind. This can be readily seen in the proactive reaction it exhibits to attacks upon it or its environment. The response is very aggressive.
(end snip)
(More on the other forms of this disease, at another time)
Regards:
-CliffMickelson
Excellent read, Scummy. I've read about half of it. I will read the rest when I can.
I truly think it is something that plagues many. I had a friend come back from Saudi Arabia with health issues that were denied for the longest time until the gov't had to face them.
I hope soon enough someone will face this issue for what it's worth and help these folk who have become 'eaten alive' by it. :(
There are many reports about parasites infecting other animals, why are we arrogant enough to think we are untouchable? We are not.
Sometimes, after I take a really good shit, I see little spots of light dancing around my field of vision. I think this is perhaps a preliminary sign of Morgellons. I think I'm getting it from my dog! I checked my bed tonight, and I found all kinds of stuff that looks really nasty when you put it in a microscope! My doctor won't listen to me. What can I do?
Leave the Melons at the produce department. :p ;)
Scumbelina
03-13-2008, 09:27 PM
Excellent read, Scummy. I've read about half of it. I will read the rest when I can.
I truly think it is something that plagues many. I had a friend come back from Saudi Arabia with health issues that were denied for the longest time until the gov't had to face them.
I hope soon enough someone will face this issue for what it's worth and help these folk who have become 'eaten alive' by it. :(
There are many reports about parasites infecting other animals, why are we arrogant enough to think we are untouchable? We are not.
Cliff is an excellent writer and I sure hope you (and others) will read his findings. I feel so bad for the people who are suffering from this disease. I work with a gal who most likely has it. She's been to countless doctors and specialists but they have no clue what she has.
She always wears long sleeved shirts but she showed me her legs the other day and it's very bad. She itches constantly and has taken every med imaginable, including steroids to get rid of it but nothing has worked.
And to hear someone making fun of this disease is more than I can tolerate.
Brooks
03-14-2008, 10:13 AM
The fact that it is in south Texas makes it seem a little more legitimate to me. A lot of our newest and strangest are coming in through our pourous borders.
Drug resistant TB, rare brainworms and even leprosy.
Are we being selfish if we put up the fence, medically screen imcoming immigrants and protect ourselves?
Some will say yes.
Napsterbater
03-14-2008, 12:06 PM
How could drug resistant TB come in from the border?
BorgHunter
03-14-2008, 12:48 PM
How could drug resistant TB come in from the border?
The government spraying chemicals from airplanes, same as the topic of this thread. :rolleyes:
Scumbelina
03-18-2008, 04:36 PM
The government spraying chemicals from airplanes, same as the topic of this thread. :rolleyes:
Perhaps you better look at the topic of this thread again. It says no such thing.
Scumbelina
03-18-2008, 04:39 PM
Well ok then. IF YOU INSIST!!!!!
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/66157
Borg made me do it :mad: