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500lbguerilla
05-10-2006, 09:51 PM
I lied, 9/11 plotter says; but guilty plea stands
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060509/NEWS07/605090409/1009
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This looks to me like the judge just made an ethics violation by sentencing an obviously mentally unstable man...
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Verdict reached in Moussaoui trial
Judge doesn’t believe Moussaoui’s 9/11 claims
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Defense attorneys have argued that Moussaoui lied on the stand either to inflate his role in history or antagonize the jury into making him a martyr through execution.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11669251/from/RSS/
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And if you've been following the case at all:
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Moussaoui changes story on stand

ALEXANDRIA, VA (AP) -- After first denying any direct role, Zacarias Moussaoui now says he had a big mission on Nine-Eleven. Moussaoui has stunned a Virginia courtroom by saying he and would-be shoe-bomber Richard Reid were to hijack a fifth airplane and fly it into the White House.
http://www.whoitv.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=4828
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Now if you've been paying attention to this you would also know that Moussaoui has been inconsistant in his testamony and has repetedly gopne into ranting outbursts in the courtroom. Not only that but the only time he gave testimoney consistant with the 9/11 plot was when he was wearing a stun belt...
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NBC news reporter Pete Williams lets slip that Moussaoui is wearing a "Stun belt" underneath his clothing controlled by US Marshals.
(video) - http://total911.info/zacmstun.wmv
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I really can't see how this would be legal. This guy belongs in a nut house, he's got a martyr complex. Anyone else?

Vilepagan
05-10-2006, 09:54 PM
http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?p=194858

500lbguerilla
05-10-2006, 10:04 PM
I assume your refering to this?...

Cant believe these people are insane.Anyone who can organise an attack like 9/11,Madrid,Bali or London isnt nuts.Theyve also managed to elude the biggest intel organisation on the planet,the CIA.Unfortunatly these sinister people,who are funded by respectable Arab and non Arab businessmen,take advantage of,and brainwash young volitile Arabs with religious extremism,these are the people the US wanna hunt down.

Vilepagan
05-10-2006, 10:10 PM
I assume your refering to this?...

No...my post above that one...the post that the link takes you to...

I'm agreeing with you 500. :)

LionelHutz
05-11-2006, 11:27 AM
This looks to me like the judge just made an ethics violation by sentencing an obviously mentally unstable man...


Is he obviously mentally unstable or is he obviously good at manipulating the system and people's impressions of him?

rendova
05-11-2006, 11:37 AM
If he understood the nature of his acts and that they wrong--that is, the willful taking of life, then no, the man is not insane under the law.

Frogger
05-11-2006, 12:17 PM
If he is sane send him to a maximum security prison.

If he is insane send him to a maximum security mental hospital.

Just keep him locked up for the rest of his life.

es347fan
05-11-2006, 02:58 PM
He might be crazy, but not insane. He may even have been psychotic at times, but if he's diagnosed with a personality disorder then he does not qualify for an insanity plea.

He appears to be right where he belongs.

WindWip
05-11-2006, 03:23 PM
I think the insane appeal shouldn't even exist. Hell, if a person doesn't know what is right and wrong or can't follow the law, they shouldn't be in society. Apart from the death penalty, i think they should get just as much time as others, if only to keep them out of society.

WindWip
05-11-2006, 03:24 PM
If he is sane send him to a maximum security prison.

If he is insane send him to a maximum security mental hospital.

Just keep him locked up for the rest of his life.
here here!

kathaksung
05-11-2006, 06:25 PM
Moussaoui hoax

911 is a hoax. Many people have realized it was a government inside work. The trial of Moussaoui is only a show. To convince the others 911 attack was done by Al Qaida.

Moussaoui plays the same role as Padilla. Padilla is an informant and was arrested for "dirty bomb" case. He was used to prove that Saddam had planned to attack US.

Intelligence used to eliminate anyone who could reveal the truth. In 911 attack, all 19 hijackers died in crash. In London bombing, all four "suicide bombers" were blew to pieces. In Madrid bombing, the "bombers" all died in a police raid. Thus nobody knew the truth ever. But they also want people believe the attack was done by Al Qaida not others. So there are prepared witness: Padilla and Moussaoui. The men worked for intelligence.

Moussaoui was arrested one month earlier before 911 attack. It was said there was plan in his computer but FBI didn't search his computer. FBI said they were afraid to touch the wall of domestic criminal law. It's ridiculous. Moussaoui is a foreigner. He fits for FISA, even a nonprofessional knows. FBI is notorious for abusing their power, do you believe they won't search a detaineer's computer?

But Moussaoui was designated for being a witness of 911. That's why he was arrested, with obvious evidence to be a witness. But at the same time FBI said they didn't search the evidence. Because otherwise the 911 attack couldn't go true. And D.O.J. couldn't get the Patriout Act, and the Inside group couldn't have the war in Mid-east.

There was another big flaw there. One principle for the secret work, either for a spy, an intelligence job, or for a terrorist, is that if one of them was arrested, the plan would be cancelled immediately and the team would withdraw. Because it was assumed the plan has been revealed. How could the other hijakers behaved like nothing happened. They going on a normal life until 911, with one of them arrested for weeks. Or do they know FBI won't search their fellow's computer?

Another big joke was when the hijacker going for a top secret job, would they bring a plan with them? It could be used only for evidence. So much for Moussaoui's case.

Vilepagan
05-11-2006, 07:40 PM
He might be crazy, but not insane. He may even have been psychotic at times, but if he's diagnosed with a personality disorder then he does not qualify for an insanity plea.

He appears to be right where he belongs.

I have no problem with where he is. I was merely pointing out that Moussaoui, and others like him, may very well be psychotic.

LionelHutz
05-11-2006, 09:10 PM
Moussaoui hoax



For those of us keeping track, which number is assigned to this particular conspiracy theory?

es347fan
05-12-2006, 03:50 PM
Pyschosis:A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.