Ray Comfort: Intelligent Design vs. Evolution
By Ray Comfort
Special to ASSIST News Service



CBN.com – Is Bill Maher a Chicken?

BELLFLOWER, CA (ANS) -- A TV co-host and author of a new book called, Intelligent Design Versus Evolution—Letters to an Atheist has challenged Bill Maher to a public debate.

Ray Comfort maintains, “Mr. Maher, like all believers in the theory of evolution simply has a blind faith in a theory-tale that can’t be substantiated. It’s just another opiate of the masses--a religion called ‘Darwinism’ that piously robes itself in what it thinks is ‘science.’ It is true science fiction.”

The author adds, “I am beginning to suspect that some men may have evolved from chickens, or at least that’s the impression I get when it comes to evolutionists standing up for their convictions. Mr. Maher can choose the place of the debate. I don’t mind if he has it in front of his audience. He can bill it as ‘Another simple-minded Christian being thrown to the lions.’”

He maintains that the political satirist was woefully misinformed last year when he lashed out at intelligent design and said, “Evolution is supported by the entire scientific community . . . the reason there is no real debate, is that intelligent design isn't real science...”

The author said, “I can scientifically prove intelligent design. Let’s have 20 minutes each. I present my case (I won’t even mention “faith”) and then he can present his case for evolution. I say that he doesn’t have one. He’s bluffing. I don’t mind if he spends his 20 minutes telling jokes, because that’s all he has.”

In 2001, Comfort was flown from Los Angeles to Orlando, Florida by American Atheists, Inc., to be a platform speaker at their 27th National Convention. “They not only paid my airfare, but they even put me up in a nice hotel, and kindly gave me a gift basket when I arrived.”

He has also spoken on the subject of intelligent design at Yale, UCLA and other prestigious learning institutions. His publication “The Atheist Test” has sold over 700,000 copies. He’s the author of more than 50 books, including, God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists and, The Evidence Bible (2002 Gold Medallion Award finalist). He also produced and co-hosted “The Science of Evolution,” which won 2005 NRB “People’s Choice” and “Best Program Award.”

As for Maher’s claim that “intelligent design isn’t real science,” Comfort points out that the concept of Intelligent Design originated with scientists and it’s the scientific evidence that lead them to that conclusion. “Hundreds of scientific scholars and researchers throughout the world support it—including scientists with the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Smithsonian Institute, with doctoral degrees in biological sciences, physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, computer science, and related disciplines, from universities such as Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, and UCLA. So Mr. Maher can’t dismiss the idea as ‘not scientific’ just because he doesn’t like that conclusion.”

Comforts adds that intelligent design is supported by scientist Fritz Schaefer, four times nominated for a Nobel Prize; Oxford Professor Antony Flew, the famous British philosopher and atheist who acknowledged that intelligent design proves there is a Creator; and Professor Michael Behe, the biochemist who has proven the “irreducible complexity” of the human cell structure. According to Behe, “Intelligent design is based on observed, empirical, physical evidence from nature.”

The best-selling author also points out that Intelligent Design Versus Evolution—Letters to an Atheist gives both sides of the issue. “The book contains scores of letters written by a very intelligently designed atheist who gives evolution’s best arguments. I think that’s healthy. Yet pro-evolution pseudo-intellectuals are calling for censorship, by not allowing school kids the freedom to listen to both sides of the argument. That reveals their insecurity.”

Comfort added, “It was the British journalist and philosopher Malcolm Muggeridge who so aptly said, ‘I myself am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it has been applied, will be one of the great jokes in the history books of the future.’ Perhaps Mr. Maher has thought about the issue and will admit that it was all a new standup routine—that evolution is just a ‘great joke,’ and we will laugh together. I’d love to hear from him, but I won’t be holding my breath.” For further details see www.IntelligentDesignVersusEvolution.com

Order your copy of Intelligent Design Versus Evolution—Letters to an Atheist

Contact Ray Comfort at ray10@livingwaters.com

Pretty hilarious, gmsisko1. Ray Comfort (I'm sure that's his real name). This guy is so famous he has to write his own articles about himself! Why should Maher bother to give him the time of day? I challenge 'Mr. Comfort' to a debate right here on allForums. Think he'll show up? Oh, and I 'challange' gmsisko1 to a spelling contest.

Okay cool guy. E mail him and see if he will show up. Put your money where your mouth is.


Pretty hilarious, gmsisko1. Ray Comfort (I'm sure that's his real name). This guy is so famous he has to write his own articles about himself! Why should Maher bother to give him the time of day? I challenge 'Mr. Comfort' to a debate right here on allForums. Think he'll show up? Oh, and I 'challange' gmsisko1 to a spelling contest.

I can only hope that Maher continues to ignore Ray Comfort.

To 'debate' these people as if they were rational human beings, to give these charlatans a stage only serves to legitimize --in some people's minds-- the silly superstitions that they are pushing.

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To explain the origin of the DNA/protein machine by invoking a supernatural "Designer" is to explain precisely nothing, for it leaves unexplained the origin of the Designer. You have to say something like 'God was always there', and if you allow yourself that kind of lazy way out, you might as well just say 'DNA was always there', or "Life was always there', and be done with it. -----Richard Dawkins

Napsterbater of allForums.net hereby formally challenges Pope Benedict XVI to a formal debate concerning the Christian faith.

If he doesn't show, he must be a coward and a lout.

To 'debate' these people as if they were rational human beings, to give these charlatans a stage only serves to legitimize --in some people's minds-- the silly superstitions that they are pushing.
A great way to change their minds, to be sure. :rolleyes:

Put your money where your mouth is.

gm, if you have some opinions regarding evolution/intelligent design, why not post them?

A great way to change their minds, to be sure. :rolleyes:

Get fucking real.

I care ZERO about trying to change their minds, because it is impossible TO change their minds.

The people who are pushing ID are religionists.....and if being confronted with reality is not enough to shake them out of bizarre and irrational beliefs like (as the Bible proclaims) dead people rising out of their graves and walking, then nothing that ANY person of science says is going to drag them back to sanity.

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We live in a world full of insane people. Sanity is an island battered in an ocean of frothing delusion. The people who believe in science are the minority. The people who believe in bloody fairytales are the overwhelming majority.

I care ZERO about trying to change their minds, because it is impossible TO change their minds.
I've posted on the boards before that atheists are the fastest growing minority in the country, so that can't possibly be true.

The sky is pink...try to prove me wrong.

The sky is pink...try to prove me wrong.

Why? Anyone who's seen a sunrise or sunset knows this to be the truth.

nope the sky is always pink. Most peoples eyes see it as blue and it even tricks spectrascopes (because they are sooo unreliable) but its really pink. I believe it's pink. So do many of my friends. Therefore its pink.

I've posted on the boards before that atheists are the fastest growing minority in the country...

I didn't see the post, and i seriously doubt that that is true.

It would be nice if Ray Comfort actually knew who he was challenging to a debate. Bill Maher believes there is a God, he has stated this on his show. So why does this guy want to debate Bill Maher on Intelligent Design?

And whats with these people saying "I challenge you to a debate, and if not, you're a chicken". If you've got a case, then state it. If no one responds or counters it, then consider yourself the winner. And if he "can scientifically prove intelligent design", then state your case now...why wait for Bill Maher?

And whats with these people saying "I challenge you to a debate, and if not, you're a chicken". If you've got a case, then state it. If no one responds or counters it, then consider yourself the winner. And if he "can scientifically prove intelligent design", then state your case now...why wait for Bill Maher?

Thank you, Mertz. If this Mr. Comfort wishes to debunk the "theory" of evolution he can then write out his thesis paper making the case of intelligent design and present to the scientific community. And please don't tell me that scientists will just ignore it. It DOES take time to change scientist's minds, but it does happen. There was a guy who had to spend some twenty years convincing scientists that cancer cells produce a chemical that causes blood vessels to connect to the cancerous tumor, thereby feeding the cancer cells. When this guy first presented this theory in speeches before a scientific body, there would be scientists that would just walk out. But he DID prove his theory, he DID isolate the chemicals that cause blood vessels to grow and connect to tumors and it's now scientific fact. Fun, huh?


Mr Comfort has his work cut out for him if he wishes scientists to start believing in the Book of Genesis. He doesn't have time to debate Bill Maher, dammit.

I didn't see the post, and i seriously doubt that that is true. I'm sorry you're so narrow-minded, it must be hard to get up in the morning. Are you a severe alcoholic too?

Oh, and here was the original article:
A study done by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York found that the percentage of the population that describes itself as "nonreligious" more than doubled from 1990 to 2001, from 14.3 million to 29.4 million people.Source (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/living/religion/14121950.htm)

There is a big difference between faith and superstition.

Superstition is based on fear. Faith is based on hope.

gm, if you have some opinions regarding evolution/intelligent design, why not post them?

Bill O'Reilly hasn't told him what his opinions are yet.

Okay cool guy. E mail him and see if he will show up. Put your money where your mouth is.It's been two days now and he hasn't answered. Nor has he made an appearance here. Looks like 'Mr. Comfort' is only interested in debates that garner him free publicity to sell his books.

I'm sorry you're so narrow-minded, it must be hard to get up in the morning. Are you a severe alcoholic too?

Huh?!?!

How it is evidence of "narrow mindedness" to note that I did not see the post?

As to the correctness of your --"atheists are the fastest growing minority in the country"-- claim, well, let's just say you're a bit off base in asserting that every person that tells someone (i.e., a New York college student that asks them a question over the phone) that they're *non-religious* is an atheist.

You need to understand there is a vast difference between declaring oneself an *atheist* (whose population, based on your laughably flawed understanding of a study done by a NY college, you falsely claim is the fastest growing in the US) and answering a pollster that you are *non-religious".

And no, i'm not a "severe alcoholic too". But thanks for demonstrating your own degree of *open mindedness* by posing such a question.

How it is evidence of "narrow mindedness" to note that I did not see the post? It isn't, the fact that you had a knee jerk reaction to disbelieve the news reveals how poor you view Americans.

Here is the excerpt more fully:
And yet at the same time a compelling undercurrent is at work. A study done by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York found that the percentage of the population that describes itself as "nonreligious" more than doubled from 1990 to 2001, from 14.3 million to 29.4 million people. The only other group to show growth was Muslims.

"Right now, the fastest-growing religious identity in America is the nonreligious," says Dan Barker, co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), a Madison, Wis.-based group that champions church-state separation and works to educate the public on nontheism.

A study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 16 percent of Americans (about 35 million) consider themselves "unaffiliated" -- a category that includes "unaffiliated believers," "secularists" and atheists/agnostics.

The latter terms -- atheists and agnostics -- are lumped together, says Green, because they share so many similarities. If I completed the statement with the phrase ""unaffiliated believers," "secularists" and atheists/agnostics," would that placate your ravenous, obnoxious self?

And no, i'm not a "severe alcoholic too". But thanks for demonstrating your own degree of *open mindedness* by posing such a question.And thanks for anal retentive that you can't take any humor made at your expense.

the fact that you had a knee jerk reaction to disbelieve the news reveals how poor you view Americans.

The fact is that your laughable misunderstanding of the study, causing you to make a false claim about atheists being the **fastest growing minoirty* in the U.S., reveals how fucking little that YOU know about the American populace.


Here is the excerpt more fully:
If I completed the statement with the phrase ""unaffiliated believers," "secularists" and atheists/agnostics," would that placate your ravenous, obnoxious self?

Yes, that would be far closer to an accurate statement than your prior, ridiculous claim.

Not all people who are *non-religious* are atheists. *Unaffilaited believers* are the OPPOSITE of atheistic.......they believe in "God", they just don't attend a church.

(btw....you might want to look up the term *ravenous*. It does not mean what you seem to think it means.)

And thanks for anal retentive that you can't take any humor made at your expense.

a) It did not seem to me that you said it in jest. (Rush Limbaugh does the same thing constantly; he makes some nonsensical, unfounded asssertion, then when his face gets rubbed in the shit and he's exposed for the fool that he is, he begins the --"Aww, I wuz jus joking with you!...cain't you people take a joke?!?"-- excuses.)

b) My grandmother died of alcoholism when I was very young, so excuse me if I didn't find your (supposed) little "joke" all that fucking humorous.

The fact is that your laughable misunderstanding of the study
The only thing "laughable" I see here is how you take everything so seriously, and parade around with 'Dick' stamped on your forehead, not being afraid to hide it.

And for the apparent issue of a misunderstanding, the article was put on the internet under the idea that the portion of Americans that are not religious is growing. While "Unaffiliated believers" do not fall into the category of "atheists", agnostics and the non-religious are debatable when it comes to categorization, and I lean for them to be lumped in with atheism. Either way, I'm sorry for any misstatements or insults lodged.

a) It did not seem to me that you said it in jest. (Rush Limbaugh does the same thing constantly; he makes some nonsensical, unfounded asssertion, You've been at these forums longer than I have, and you don't realize that I am the "joking-type" yet? And aside from Rush being a overweight addict and mediocre entertainer, my *assertion* was neither nonsensical nor unfounded, although was essentially mistaken.

(btw....you might want to look up the term *ravenous*. It does not mean what you seem to think it means.) Don't patronize me, especially since you're the one who cannot decipher what I said. Ravenous is well established in my vernacular, and I used it accordingly. You prey on Frogger and others for the slightest misstep in grammar, fact-checking, and the like, and overplay it like a dramatic schoolgirl.

Well FT, I'm sorry about your grandmother (my family has had battles with alcoholism as well). My condolences...

......the article was put on the internet under the idea that the portion of Americans that are not religious is growing.

Noting that ***the portion of Americans that are not religious is growing***, is one loooooooooong fucking way from the claim that --"atheists are the fastest growing minoirty in the U.S."


You've been at these forums longer than I have, and you don't realize that I am the "joking-type" yet?

No, I didn't. You just seem to me to be a clueless twit with a poor grasp of the English language.

I'm sorry about your grandmother.....My condolences...

Blow it out your ass.