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Freethinker
05-09-2006, 04:28 PM
The Press and Priorities - What's Really Important
-------by Rosemarie Jackowski
(Saturday May 06 2006)
Well, there they go again. The press is honing in on the big media event of the day - the Kennedy traffic accident. I don't care about his accident. I am happy that he was not injured but his personal problems are none of my business. Voyeurism is not my thing. I don't care about Laura Bush's traffic accident either. I don't care about Cheney's daughter's sex life. I don't care about Michael Jackson, or Madonna, or the private life of any celebrity. I don't care about much that is on TV. I have never watched that TV show about those neurotic, self-absorbed housewives. (I assume that they are neurotic and self-absorbed.)
I do care about a lot of other things though. I care about the 18,000 US citizens who will die this year because they have no access to health care. That is like having a 9/11 every 60 days, only worse because these are deaths that we are imposing on our fellow citizens.
I care about the countless numbers of immigrants who are struggling to cross the border only to find that they are then in a racist and hostile environment. I care about all of the migrant farm workers who have been contributing their labor for years. Anyone remember that old documentary, Harvest of Shame?
I care about all of the kids in US schools who will never learn the true facts of USA history. They will never learn that their country is responsible for invasions, occupations, covert actions, and deaths all around the world. They will never learn about The School of the Assassins at Fort Benning, Georgia or what really happened at No Gun Ri. When they become adults they will probably wind up as talk show hosts on FOX or CNN and then pass on their misinformation to a whole new generation.
I care about global warming. I care about the PCB's in the Hudson River. I care about the safety of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant.
I care about the fact that it is very difficult to find organic vegetables in many locations in the US. I care about the fact that corporations have more rights than farmers do. I care about the farmers who are victims of Monsanto and other corporations who profiteer with the food supply.
I care about the thimerasol in the vaccines that we inject into newborns. I care about the fact that pharmaceutical companies have more lobbying power than we do.
I care about my friend who left the USA and relocated to Costa Rica because she needed medical/dental care.
I care about the sex-saturated culture which is increasingly hostile to children. I care about the mothers who want to care for their children but are forced to place them in day care centers instead.
I care about the homeless who are being turned away from the homeless shelter because there is no room for them.
I care about those who are unjustly imprisoned because of a judicial system that is not capable of providing justice.
I care about the former inhabitants of Diego Garcia. They were forced onto boats and "relocated" so that the USA could build a military base there. We used to call that genocide.
I care about the unknown number of, perhaps 5000, innocent civilians who were killed by the USA bombing in Panama. I care about the 500,000 children who died painful deaths because of the sanctions on Iraq.
I care about all of the victims of US military aggression and CIA covert actions. I care about all of those who are yet to die because of USA land mines and DU contamination. I care about the people in Iraq who are now living under the Occupation of a foreign power.
I care about the fact that there is no opposition party in the US because the Democrats and Republicans have such a tight hold on the legal system that they have been able to keep third parties out of the Presidential Debates.
I care about the unfair distribution of wealth because we don't have an effective livable wage campaign. I care about the fact that we don't have a maximum wage which would be helpful in controlling excessive consumption.
I care about a lot of things. I especially care about David, my 2 year-old grandson, and all of the others in his generation.
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http://usa.mediamonitors.net/layout/set/print/content/view/full/30047
Scumbelina
01-21-2008, 03:55 PM
I care about all of the kids in US schools who will never learn the true facts of USA history. They will never learn that their country is responsible for invasions, occupations, covert actions, and deaths all around the world. They will never learn about The School of the Assassins at Fort Benning, Georgia or what really happened at No Gun Ri. When they become adults they will probably wind up as talk show hosts on FOX or CNN and then pass on their misinformation to a whole new generation.
A heavy hitter, to say the least.
I care about global warming. I care about the PCB's in the Hudson River. I care about the safety of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant.
Another heavy hitter.
I care about the fact that it is very difficult to find organic vegetables in many locations in the US. I care about the fact that corporations have more rights than farmers do. I care about the farmers who are victims of Monsanto and other corporations who profiteer with the food supply.
A HUGE heavy hitter to me.
I care about the thimerasol in the vaccines that we inject into newborns. I care about the fact that pharmaceutical companies have more lobbying power than we do.
Another huge one. Geezus.
I care about those who are unjustly imprisoned because of a judicial system that is not capable of providing justice.
YUP. Another biggie.
I care about the former inhabitants of Diego Garcia. They were forced onto boats and "relocated" so that the USA could build a military base there. We used to call that genocide.
Enough to make ya sick.
I care about all of those who are yet to die because of USA land mines and DU contamination. I care about the people in Iraq who are now living under the Occupation of a foreign power.
Right-o!
I care about the fact that there is no opposition party in the US because the Democrats and Republicans have such a tight hold on the legal system that they have been able to keep third parties out of the Presidential Debates.
BIG HEAVY HITTER. Their oughta be a law... ya right. :rolleyes:
Ya know, this country is purdy fukked up when it comes down to it, but so many people are clueless as to what goes on 'behind the scenes' because the truth is kept from us.
Just watch Fox News and they'll show you what's really important and truthful and what isn't, right?
FOX NEWS IS THE WORST but the rest of the media aint much better cuz they're not allowed to TELL THE TRUTH.
LinkTV is an independent channel and they blow more whistles on our gov't than a speeding train ever could.
BorgHunter
01-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Well, there they go again. The press is honing in on the big media event of the day - the Kennedy traffic accident. I don't care about his accident. I am happy that he was not injured but his personal problems are none of my business. Voyeurism is not my thing. I don't care about Laura Bush's traffic accident either. I don't care about Cheney's daughter's sex life. I don't care about Michael Jackson, or Madonna, or the private life of any celebrity. I don't care about much that is on TV. I have never watched that TV show about those neurotic, self-absorbed housewives. (I assume that they are neurotic and self-absorbed.)
With you so far.
I do care about a lot of other things though. I care about the 18,000 US citizens who will die this year because they have no access to health care. That is like having a 9/11 every 60 days, only worse because these are deaths that we are imposing on our fellow citizens.
Their fault.
I care about the countless numbers of immigrants who are struggling to cross the border only to find that they are then in a racist and hostile environment. I care about all of the migrant farm workers who have been contributing their labor for years. Anyone remember that old documentary, Harvest of Shame?
While I wish them no ill will, I don't particularly care that they don't like it here.
I care about all of the kids in US schools who will never learn the true facts of USA history. They will never learn that their country is responsible for invasions, occupations, covert actions, and deaths all around the world. They will never learn about The School of the Assassins at Fort Benning, Georgia or what really happened at No Gun Ri. When they become adults they will probably wind up as talk show hosts on FOX or CNN and then pass on their misinformation to a whole new generation.
Here's one I can agree with partially, at least.
I care about global warming.
I don't.
I care about the PCB's in the Hudson River.
I don't happen to live anywhere near the Hudson River.
I care about the safety of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant.
Well sure, no one wants a nuclear plant to go boom.
I care about the fact that it is very difficult to find organic vegetables in many locations in the US.
Whine. There are plenty of Whole Foods near me.
I care about the fact that corporations have more rights than farmers do.
Agreed, end corporate subsidies.
Skip a few...
I care about the sex-saturated culture which is increasingly hostile to children.
FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!1
I care about the mothers who want to care for their children but are forced to place them in day care centers instead.
Them's the brakes sometimes.
I care about the homeless who are being turned away from the homeless shelter because there is no room for them.
Perhaps they should consider getting jobs so they aren't homeless anymore.
Skip a few more...
I care about the unfair distribution of wealth because we don't have an effective livable wage campaign.
Someone's upset about how much money they make, aren't they?
I care about the fact that we don't have a maximum wage which would be helpful in controlling excessive consumption.
I care about that too. I'm very glad there is no such thing.
Your copy & pasted article sucks, FT. Some minor agreements here and there, but mostly BS. 1.5/10
Scumbelina
01-21-2008, 04:15 PM
Your copy & pasted article sucks, FT. Some minor agreements here and there, but mostly BS. 1.5/10
blaaah blaaaah blaaaah blaaaahhh....
SEZ YOU!
OK, a few things on that list wasn'ta major concern of mine (so what) but much of it is a concern to many. Well, not on this forum, obviously, but I wouldn't call it "BS".
So again....... BLAAAAAH!
Thank you for listening. :p
OldPhart
01-21-2008, 04:39 PM
blaaah blaaaah blaaaah blaaaahhh....
SEZ YOU!
OK, a few things on that list wasn'ta major concern of mine (so what) but much of it is a concern to many. Well, not on this forum, obviously, but I wouldn't call it "BS".
So again....... BLAAAAAH!
Thank you for listening. :p
Wow... color me impressed! Such articulation... such a wordsmith...
It brings back playground memories of "my dad can whip your dad!" and "I know you are, but what am I"
Look out Pee Wee Herman... there's a new "force" on the block.
LiquidFork
01-21-2008, 04:42 PM
the content of this article is laughable. However one cannot wonder why once they realize who wrote in the first place. Rosemarie Jackowski is an anarchist,senile 70+ old lady who is more out of touch with the real world than FT is. This narcissistic humanist actually believes that the US owes Iran reparations. Her view on the Diego Garcia incident is even more pathetic. Trust me folks... she is definetly not dealing with a full deck..
mikezila
01-21-2008, 04:53 PM
the content of this article is laughable. However one cannot wonder why once they realize who wrote in the first place. Rosemarie Jackowski is an anarchist,senile 70+ old lady who is more out of touch with the real world than FT is. This narcissistic humanist actually believes that the US owes Iran reparations. Her view on the Diego Garcia incident is even more pathetic. Trust me folks... she is definetly not dealing with a full deck..
this one (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1205-01.htm)? typical left wing loony, she wants rights but not responsibilities:rolleyes:
waldo
01-21-2008, 05:07 PM
And in other news one ft's big idols is willing to sell the israelis their dead soldiers body's back to them. Classy guy that nasrallah.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080119/ts_nm/lebanon_hezbollah_ashura_dc
Freethinker
01-21-2008, 05:16 PM
the content of this article is laughable.
Is that the strongest refutation you can mount?
However one cannot wonder why once they realize who wrote in the first place. Rosemarie Jackowski is an anarchist......
What evidence do you have that she is promoting anarchy?
....senile
In looking at what she's involved in and her dedicated activism, she seems to me to be the diametric opposite of 'senile'.
....70+ old lady
Ok. She's 70. I fail to see why that is a negative.
who is more out of touch with the real world ...
Again........she seems to me one of the few people in this country who is very much in touch with what's going on.
This narcissistic humanist actually believes that the US owes Iran reparations.
I do too. Along with many other leftists. Although I cannot see why such a view qualifies one as a 'narcissist'.
Trust me folks... she is definetly not dealing with a full deck..
Trust me Liquid Fork..........your attempt at a refutation is the thing that is truly laughable.
mikezila
01-21-2008, 05:21 PM
And in other news one ft's big idols is willing to sell the israelis their dead soldiers body's back to them. Classy guy that nasrallah.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080119/ts_nm/lebanon_hezbollah_ashura_dc
nothing but class from those Arabs:rolleyes:
Freethinker
01-21-2008, 05:31 PM
And in other news one ft's big idols is willing to sell the israelis their dead soldiers body's back to them.
Hmmmm. That's odd. The article I read stated that the two sides had made arrangements to make a trade. Nothing at all about either side "selling" anything.
How about this, waldo;
Either post an article or some commentary or a news story--anything you can come up in a search of the entire world wide web-- that states, per your allegation, that the person in question is ""selling the Israel's their dead soldiers body's back to them"", or admit that you are guilty of spreading an outright falsehood.
(not holding my breath)
Scumbelina
01-21-2008, 05:33 PM
Wow... color me impressed! Such articulation... such a wordsmith...
It brings back playground memories of "my dad can whip your dad!" and "I know you are, but what am I"
Look out Pee Wee Herman... there's a new "force" on the block.
Thank you for the heartwarming compliments.
waldo
01-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Hmmmm. That's odd. The article I read stated that the two sides had made arrangements to make a trade. Nothing at all about either side "selling" anything.
How about this, waldo;
Either post an article or some commentary or a news story--anything you can come up in a search of the entire world wide web-- that states, per your allegation, that the person in question is ""selling the Israel's their dead soldiers body's back to them"", or admit that you are guilty of spreading an outright falsehood.
(not holding my breath)
'Trading' is he? So he's trafficking in dead body parts to get live bodies back. What other civilized nation on earth is willing to traffic in dead bodies as part of war. Usually you let the other side come claim their dead. Nasrallah is willing to let come only if they offer something in return. Again, classy of him. And elegant of you to defend his 'morality'.
LiquidFork
01-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Is that the strongest refutation you can mount?.
it seems some posters had a hard time understanding the validity of the article you C/Ped and i attempted to shed some light on the original author of the article. I did not attempt the dispute a single line in the article like borg did. I simply made my opinion known on the author. I dont have enough time to pic apart your silly little article,then your going to want links to my own opinions,,,while you produce nothing but a crack point article from a nut job....then you will try to try to engage in ghost arguments with me.....then you will make fancy on wordings,trying to put words in my own mouth in an attempt to anger my enough so I get off point. HEY,,, look to the little stats to the left... I have been here since august... Your tactics have been exposed long ago. So for the rest of this REMEMBER... this all started between me and you when i posted my OPINION on the horrible choice of an author you made when you decided to post this thread.
What evidence do you have that she is promoting anarchy??.
Well lets see... i simply took the definition of anarchy and associated it to the ramblings she manages to get published,,,,, and POOF,,,,, there it is... here i will show you....
anarchy
One entry found.
Pronunciation:
\ˈa-nər-kē, -ˌnär-\ Function: noun Etymology: Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek, from anarchos having no ruler, from an- + archos ruler — more at arch- (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/arch-)Date: 1539 1a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
her nickname is mother anarchy.... or at least thats what her SUPPORTERS seem to call he....come to think of it..... maybe we should call you farther anarchy.. seems to sum up your motive and agenda.
looking at what she's involved in and her dedicated activism, she seems to me to be the diametric opposite of 'senile'.?.
well I guess stupid is as stupid does....
Ok. She's 70. I fail to see why that is a negative.?. when a 70 year old throw back from the 60s seems to pretend to be the voice of the "new movement" i would assume it is better to blame her lack of reason on her age than her actual point of view. I dont know what can I say... call me a softy
Again........she seems to me one of the few people in this country who is very much in touch with what's going on.?.
I will never ever be able to grasp how you continue to believe that you and a handful of people are the only ones with a clue in this country... lemme guess... the rest of us are in the matrix.. which one are you? neo or Morpheus?
I do too. Along with many other leftists. Although I cannot see why such a view qualifies one as a 'narcissist'.?.
If you cannot figure out why someone would put you or her into the category as a narcissist humanist (if your going to quote,quote the whole term) then all I can say is refer the the response i posted above.... Stupid is as stupid does...
Trust me Liquid Fork..........your attempt at a refutation is the thing that is truly laughable.
Poor Poor Freethinker... sitting alone at the top of the tower of true knowledge all alone... I am sorry but alot of the things you are post are war off in left field.. but i cannot really debate it because there are some valid points. in a round about way you make ALOT of sense... BUT if your going to start posting crap from a nut job like Rosemarie Jackowski then your going to get your posts tore apart again and again,,,,time after time.....
Foolsworth
01-21-2008, 06:52 PM
If one could buy some Cause Celebre at the grocery store,
you'd have a shopping cart chock full.
And that wood include both sides of every aisle.
DarkFantasy96
01-21-2008, 07:07 PM
Freethinker, an anarchist?? ROFL. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today...
mikezila
01-21-2008, 07:12 PM
Freethinker, an anarchist?? ROFL. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today...
more ridiculous than him thinking the Clintons are Conservatives?
DarkFantasy96
01-21-2008, 07:22 PM
more ridiculous than him thinking the Clintons are Conservatives?
Well maybe they are, compared to him... :p Conservative and liberal are ultimately absolutely relative terms. For example, even Dennis Kucinich is conservative compared to, say, a communist.
BorgHunter
01-21-2008, 08:57 PM
For example, even Dennis Kucinich is conservative compared to, say, a communist.
Kucinich would be considered a moderate in most of Europe.
DarkFantasy96
01-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Kucinich would be considered a moderate in most of Europe.
I'm aware of that. I was aware of it even before the first time you told me, and this is not the first time.
BorgHunter
01-21-2008, 09:23 PM
I'm aware of that. I was aware of it even before the first time you told me, and this is not the first time.
I figured you knew. I was saying it for the benefit of others.
Freethinker
01-21-2008, 09:26 PM
'Trading' is he? So he's trafficking in dead body parts to get live bodies back.
Yes. But what he is not doing is "selling" them.
Glad you've admitted the lie. Thanks.
What other civilized nation on earth is willing to traffic in dead bodies as part of war?
According to your link, that *other* nation would be Israel.
Usually you let the other side come claim their dead.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Israel was not doing anything wrong in instigating the violent confrontation that led to all those people being killed, but suddenly the other side is 'evil' because they are not letting Irsael "come claim their dead" without getting something in exchange.
Amazing.
Nasrallah is willing to let come only if they offer something in return.
True.
Again, classy of him.
Yes....it's a real shame he couldn't be as "classy" as those on the other side who invaded Lebanon and killed almost 1000 innocent Lebanese citizens.
And elegant of you to defend his 'morality'.
?!?!? WTF?!?!
I have not "defended" him. I simply asked you to provide some evidence for your allegations. (and you were laughably unable to do so)
And also, I made no mention whatsoever of his "morality".
I truly don't know any more whether to attribute your nonsensical utterances to a case of simple dishonesty or one of rank stupidity.
DarkFantasy96
01-21-2008, 09:26 PM
I think most of our posters would not enjoy living in Europe...
Although I thought that in some countries in Europe they also have far right wing parties... I read somewhere that all our politicians are "moderate" by European standards. Maybe that's an outdated assessment though.
Decka
01-21-2008, 09:38 PM
just another FT post... nothing really new here...
Freethinker
01-21-2008, 09:38 PM
If you cannot figure out why someone would put you or her into the category as a narcissist humanist then all I can say is refer the the response i posted above....
The response above does nothing to explain the allegation.
Just tell me what there is about her holding the view that the US owes Iran reparations that equates to her being a "narcissistic humanist".
As to the allegation of being a humanist, I understand that. And I'd agree. (but then, for me, calling someone a humanist is high praise indeed, and Ms. Jackowski could be said to be one)
The claim of narcissism is where I do not understand your reasoning.
(Frankly, it's beginning to seem possible that you do not know the meaning of the word narcissism.)
waldo
01-22-2008, 05:48 AM
Yes. But what he is not doing is "selling" them.
An english lesson.
sell 2 a (1): to give up (property) to another for something of value (as money) (2): to offer for sale b: to give up in return for something else especially foolishly or dishonorably <sold his birthright for a mess of pottage> c: to exact a price for <sold their lives dearly>
4: to dispose of or manage for profit instead of in accordance with conscience, justice, or duty <sold their votes>
http://merriam.com/dictionary/sell
According to your link, that *other* nation would be Israel. Israel isn't giving up any dead soldiers or body parts. Try again.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Israel was not doing anything wrong in instigating the violent confrontation that led to all those people being killed, but suddenly the other side is 'evil' because they are not letting Irsael "come claim their dead" without getting something in exchange.
Amazing.
Shot memory too. Hezbollah crossed into Israel and kidnapped two israeli soldiers to start the confrontation. The war could've been avoided if hezbollah had returned them. Apparently hez thinks the soldiers are more valuable than Lebanese civilians. They still hold the soldiers btw.
Yes....it's a real shame he couldn't be as "classy" as those on the other side who invaded Lebanon and killed almost 1000 innocent Lebanese citizens.
?!?!? WTF?!?!
I have not "defended" him. I simply asked you to provide some evidence for your allegations. (and you were laughably unable to do so)
And also, I made no mention whatsoever of his "morality".
I truly don't know any more whether to attribute your nonsensical utterances to a case of simple dishonesty or one of rank stupidity.
You don't think you're defending nasrullah and his selling dead body parts? What woudl you call it then?
Mr. Shaman
01-22-2008, 08:34 AM
The Press and Priorities - What's Really Important
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!
I thought this thread might be about the face of Bushenomics.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/22/t1home.mrkt.dwn.04.afp.gi.jpg
Foolsworth
01-22-2008, 09:05 AM
Well maybe they are, compared to him... :p Conservative and liberal are ultimately absolutely relative terms. For example, even Dennis Kucinich is conservative compared to, say, a communist.
You're a tad bit unrealized,thar Swiss Miss.
In a Democracy there is flux and willingness to disagree and
state differing viewpoints.
So to be a Conservative vs. a Liberal is Normal and to be expected.
There is NO such condition in Communism.
Communism is a Rigid condition of Do or Die.
" Communism destroys democracy.Democracy can only
destroy Communism. "
-- Andre Malraux
" Every Communist must grasp the truth;Political power grows
out of the barrel of a gun.Our principle is that the Party commands
the gun and the gun will never be allowed to command the Party. "
" Communism is not love,communism is a hammer which we
use to crush the enemy. "
-- Mao Tse-tung
I really can't see Kucinich being so crassly violent.
Even if he does chop up the finest Polish sausage in Parma.
Clevelander's understand.
LiquidFork
01-22-2008, 09:24 AM
(Frankly, it's beginning to seem possible that you do not know the meaning of the word narcissism.)
To me it seems someone that will come on here day in and day out and preach,piss and moan that basically the whole population of his own country are clueless,sheep without an idea of their surroundings. Someone that will day in and day out insist that he and a small small handful of people are the only ones who can ever really understand the world and how it works DEFINITELY should fall into the category of nar·cis·sism http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2 Fnarcissistic) (när'sĭ-sĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key (http://cache.lexico.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html)
n.
<LI minmax_bound="true">Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See Synonyms at conceit (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conceit). <LI minmax_bound="true">A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem. <LI minmax_bound="true">Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
The attribute of the human psyche charactized by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.
Freethinker
01-22-2008, 10:28 AM
(Frankly, it's beginning to seem possible that you do not know the meaning of the word narcissism.)
To me it seems someone that will come on here day in and day out and preach,piss and moan that basically the whole population of his own country are clueless,sheep without an idea of their surroundings. Someone that will day in and day out insist that he and a small small handful of people are the only ones who can ever really understand the world and how it works DEFINITELY should fall into the category of nar·cis·sism
:rolleyes:
Thanks for proving me correct.
Freethinker
01-22-2008, 10:38 AM
You don't think you're defending nasrullah ...
I was simply pointing out your false allegations. It was not done in "defense" of anyone. It was simply to point out a falsehood.
And also, I made no mention whatsoever of his "morality".
...and his selling dead body parts?
He is not selling anything.
He --along with the nation of Israel-- is trafficking in dead body parts.
What woudl you call it then?
Calling attention to your fabrications.
Travh20
01-22-2008, 10:52 AM
This thread is a big stinky pile of feces
Freethinker
01-22-2008, 11:14 AM
Thanks, Trav.
Yet another meaningful contribution from the deep font of Conservative wisdom you draw upon.
We need to have someone archive these wonderful bon mots of yours.
Travh20
01-22-2008, 04:07 PM
I guess to be meaningful I need to go copy and paste a bunch of propaganda and just call it good.