my friends child has tay sachs disease should she have an abortion or give birth?

if you dont know tay sachs is a very rare and deadly disease that causes death when a child is born from 30 months old to a rare 4 years old.

so it is definate that the child will die.

she is a carrier for the disease and got pregnant and through testing she found out that the baby will 100% have Tay sachs

i told her to have an abortion but i want more opinions before i make that my final descision.

tell me what she should do....

That depends on one thing: will the child suffer while it is alive, or is Tay Sach's a (relatively) painless disease?

Oh, and don't listen to Dave or Trav unless you too believe that abortion is murder. Don't let their beliefs influence your decision.

If it has the possibilty to live past the age of 2, then it has a right to live.

However, Blib, what if it was in pain through 2 and beyond? Would it really want to live? I wouldn't if there were extreme pain involved. Seems rather pointless.

WTF? why dont you ask your doctor, why are you going to ask these brainless morons?

However, Blib, what if it was in pain through 2 and beyond? Would it really want to live? I wouldn't if there were extreme pain involved. Seems rather pointless.
Thats what pain killers are for...:D No, I agree, if it will be in extreme pain, then you should abort. If not, then let the child live.

Originally posted by Travh20
why are you going to ask these brainless morons?
Hypocrite.

Anyway...:D

I'm sure he already has asked his doctor, he just wants some sort of second opinion.

Abort it. You'll do a lot more for society, as well as yourself, by eventually having a healthy child with a future instead of a doomed child now that will die by time it begins to grasp what life is. After that, don't give the decision a second thought because I have, and you should have, no doubt that you made the right decision.

Whatever its worth, you have my sympathy for being forced to make such a decision. Good luck.

sounds like hitler when he decided to kill off all the mentally challenged saying it would be better for society.

How do you know they wont find a cure during those 2 years, or a way to extend his life and during that time they find a cure. Any life is better than no life. Liberals say they are the protectors of life, but want to kill off life if there is any hardship. Freaking sad.

Most children with Tay-Sachs disease die of bronchopneumonia at 31/2 to 4 years of age.

It results in mental retardation and lack of normal physical development, followed by convulsions, blindness, paralysis, and death. There is no cure for Tay-Sachs.

yes, sounds terrible.

Originally posted by Travh20
sounds like hitler when he decided to kill off all the mentally challenged saying it would be better for society.

How do you know they wont find a cure during those 2 years, or a way to extend his life and during that time they find a cure. Any life is better than no life. Liberals say they are the protectors of life, but want to kill off life if there is any hardship. Freaking sad.

First of all, where in my post does it say anything about "mentally challenged?"

There won't be a cure. That's a genetic disease (If I recall correctly). Medicine is no where near curing genetic diseases.

Terminating the pregnancy would probably be the optimum decision. At best, it's Hobson's Choice. The afflicted family can take some solace in the idea that medical technology has provided them with the information necessary to make an informed decision. While they will undoubtedly be affected by either decision, bringing a child into the world who is destined to expire within a few years, all the while knowing exactly the outcome could be psychologically devistating to them: knowing they had the option to terminate, chose not to, witnessing & experiencing the suffering, the waiting for the final breaths, then participating in the inevitable funeral, quite possibly resulting in an emotionally crippling load of guilt and anguish. The choice to terminate the pregnancy, IMO, is probably the more reasonable decision.

Abortion it is that simple, if there is a 100% chance of death while it is still a baby then why make it suffer. This is a tough decision, but why make a living thing suffer if there is no hope for a future.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
That depends on one thing: will the child suffer while it is alive, or is Tay Sach's a (relatively) painless disease?

Oh, and don't listen to Dave or Trav unless you too believe that abortion is murder. Don't let their beliefs influence your decision.

You really have some nerve, asshole. Telling someone to ignore us because you feel our opinions aren't valid because we are against abortion. Kiss my ass.

Oh, please. If he agrees with your opinion, let him believe you. I don't care. What I was getting at was, that you would likely feed him some "abortion is murder" gobbledygook, and unless that's what he believes, why influence him? Let him make his own decision on that, as he obviously doesn't believe it's too immoral.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
gobbledygook
you can also spell it this way "gobbledegook"

Right...but you can also spell it my way...it really doesn't matter.

ya, we all know borg is the end all be all of spelling and grammer on this board, dont contradict him whatever you do.

Oh, of COURSE, Trav. I also ban people who use bad grammar. OH! I noticed you misspelled "grammar"! I shall ban you now!

In case you missed it, Trav, that was sarcasm.

I was just adding my 2 cents worth ( being a smart a** :D)didn't mean to start an argument, sorry :(. Now everybody play nice, can't we all just get allooonnnggggg. How are we going to form the perfect communist party if we can't even get along on the allforums link :D :D :D.

im glad to see my thread has gotten off topic and i thank you all for your opinions

thanks you guys(and girls also) for your help

All threads on Allforums get off-topic. It's part of our charm. :D

what was the topic again?

artificial insemination of bees with bull semen

thats some serious bees

im glad yall have a sense of humor cause some people are just so uptight ya know

like they got some sorta stick up their butt and cant figure out how to geet it out ya know

this is probably the best forum i have ever been on :D ya know


always remember...
"lifes a garden pour pooh all over it and watch people run away"


really supposed to be ...garden, dig it from JOE DIRT ya know
:o :o
it hard to not get bored of going off topic ya know


so how bout dat semination of bees with bull sperm

dem be some sorta horny bee ya know

im over ya know now

ya know
he he he:D

Originally posted by es347fan
artificial insemination of bees with bull semen
Would that make a Bullumble Bee?
LMAO :D :D :D

I was imagining a bull fight...but the beeull (??) is flying.

wow, ok i am anti abortion and this topic is pretty old but there are exceptions.....If the childs quality of life is going to be effected dramatically then the choice is up to the parents to decide. Although i am against it i would NEVER judge someone in this type of situation, this would be hard enough as it is without someone telling them what is right or wrong. Whatever decision the mother and father decided was the best one for them and their unborn child.

yes i beleive that she should have an abortion because she is saving herself alot of pain and saving the child pain, if the child is going to be born with a disease and will most certainly die then
why put yourself and the child through the pain.