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I would have punched this guys ticket for him ..........as an accomplice to 3000 murders. I guess there were too many bleeding heart liberal types on the jury. BTW .....did anybody hear the apologist .......Carrie LeMack ....on the news after the verdict ........apologizing for the guy ......?? What the hell was she thinking....??

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/03/D8HCH9B82.html

Moussaoui Gets Life in Prison

MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer

A federal jury decided Wednesday al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui deserves life in prison for his role in the deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history, on Sept. 11, 2001.

On the seventh day of deliberation, the jury of nine men and three women informed Judge Leonie Brinkema that it had reached a decision. The verdict was announced at 4:30 p.m. EDT.

Moussaoui, a 37-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent, is the only person charged in this country in connection with the suicide jetliner hijackings that killed nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.

The verdict came after four years of legal maneuvering and a six-week trial that put jurors on an emotional roller coaster.

The panel of northern Virginia residents was shown gruesome never- before-released images of the carnage that day, heard the first public playing of the cockpit recorder from United Flight 93 whose passengers tried to retake the jet over Pennsylvania, and watched and listened as dozens of victims and relatives described the horrors and losses they had endured.

The nine men and three women deliberated about 40 hours. They had found Moussaoui eligible for execution after more than 16 hours of deliberations in late March and early April.

Although he was in jail on immigration violations on Sept. 11, the jury ruled that lies he told federal agents the month before the attacks kept the government from identifying and stopping some of the hijackers.


Slim

I would have punched this guys ticket for him ..........as an accomplice to 3000 murders.

Who.....Bush??

He hasn't even been tried yet.

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Oddly, I, like you, was hoping Moussaoui would get the death penalty, .....but as for me it was because it would for him be a more humane punishment.

He got what he deserved, and it would have been a bad move all around to have executed him. First of all, he wanted to be executed, and I see no reason to give him what he wants. Secondly, we'd be doing ourselves a great disservice by making a martyr out of him.

it would have been a bad move all around to have executed him.......he wanted to be executed......we'd be doing ourselves a great disservice.....

Well, yeah. Those were my other reasons.

Life in prison is just fine. He'll soon lose all of his public identity, and contact with the world. Another forgotten number in the penal system. Until somebody kills him there. Deny him the rather specialized treatment afforded those spending decades on death row. Let him spend the remainder of his existence locked in a cage. No martydom, no fanfare at the eventual mockery of justice the death penalty would bring.

Wonder if he knows the words to that old jailhouse ditty: "My Cellmate Thinks I'm Sexy" ??

I think you are mistaken .............I'll wager that some liberal leftist socialista group .........takes up his plight .....before this summer has passed.


Slim

He has been sentenced to serve his life term at a supermax prison in Colorado.
This is what awaits him there:

Supermax prisons (control units, maxi-maxis) differ intrinsically from lesser security institutions in three principal respects. First, unlike maximum-security institutions, where prisoners are out of their cells an average of 13 hours per day, supermax prisons are permanent lockdown facilities. In other words, prisoners are caged in their single cells approximately 23 hours per day.
Second, supermax prisons employ isolation, control, and behavior modification techniques. Prisoners are not allowed to communicate with other prisoners. Since the trend in these institutions is to utilize solid steel doors, rather than bars, complete isolation is virtually assured. Prisoners must eat, sleep, and live their entire lives alone in a cell. There is no congregate exercise or religious service. Censorship of reading materials is strict, and educational programs via correspondence courses are severely restricted, if allowed at all.
Prison officials seek to curtail any expression of creativity or individuality by the prisoners. Prisoners are not allowed to put anything on the walls, and until public outcry mounted, prisoners at MCC-Westville were not even allowed to know the time of day or night. Basic human needs such as human contact, communication, and individuality are viewed by prison officials as a threat to the smooth running and security of the institution and are, therefore, proscribed.
Visits by family members, often critical to a prisoner's psychological well-being, are restricted and take place under such oppressive conditions that many family members refuse to return. At MCC-Indiana, for instance, after a two-hour delay while prison officials attempted to deny a pre-approved visit by a prisoner's father, the father suffered a heart attack when his son was finally brought out and he saw his son's deteriorated physical condition and abuse by MCC guards.
On the rare occasion when a prisoner has an opportunity to leave his cell, he is fully shackled (hands, feet, and waist) and flanked by several guards. Minor rule infractions result in severe punishment ranging from a prisoner being fully strapped down to his bed to a visit from a cell extraction team (guards in riot gear with mace and steel-tipped rib-spreaders).

Just think of what the guys life could have been like ...........if he had only taken the straight and narrow road to Allan.
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Slim

Basic human needs such as human contact...are proscribed. ---- ........deteriorated physical condition and abuse by MCC guards........


Am I the only person in America who is appalled and ashamed that we, as a society, would treat ANY human being that horribly?!?!? I have no problem with executing prisoners.......but to keep them alive and torture them in the ways that the SuperMax prisons do makes us no better than the people that we have branded -- "evil-doers".

I would not even want the conservative politicians who lied and fomented the war in Iraq to be treated that inhumanely if they were sentenced to prison.

Just think of what the guys life could have been like ...........if he had only taken the straight and narrow road to Allan.
Slim

Who's Allan? :@@:

Am I the only person in America who is appalled and ashamed that we, as a society, would treat ANY human being that horribly?!?!? I have no problem with executing prisoners.......but to keep them alive and torture them in the ways that the SuperMax prisons do makes us no better than the people that we have branded -- "evil-doers".

I would not even want the conservative politicians who lied and fomented the war in Iraq to be treated that inhumanely if they were sentenced to prison.


I read about a drug lord ( forget his name) who was sentenced to a supermax--after 2 years, he stated that he could feel himself literally going insane, and begged for execution.....these prisons were created for incorrigibles, the exceedingly violent,those beyond rehab, or for those who've attempted multiple escapes....... they are cruel, cruel places.

.....these prisons....are cruel, cruel places.

They stand in direct contravention to and violation of the US Constitution. It is truly SICK that we as a society allow and approve of such inhuman punishment.

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U.S. Constitution - Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

For all the complaining going on about how horrible conditions for society's worst are in the penal systyem, I've yet to see anyone present an alternative.

Am I the only person in America who is appalled and ashamed that we, as a society, would treat ANY human being that horribly?!?!? Umm...yeah.

A person should ask themseves exactly what a defendant or prisoner did to deserve being sent to a supermax to begin with.
They are cruel places, no doubt--created for cruel and violent men.

It's unfortunate this thread has already lost its' allure.

A person should ask themseves exactly what a defendant or prisoner did to deserve being sent to a supermax to begin with.
They are cruel places, no doubt--created for cruel and violent men.

People will break the laws, and society must deal with them.

But no rational, humane group of human beings would treat prisoners the way they are mistreated in the Supermax prisons.

It is beneath any human being to condone and approve of such barbaric treatment of prisoners.......but then, we are talking about Amerikkka.

I read somewhere that a European visitor to the US described our system of punishment as ferocious.

That's a good word, and apt--ferocious.

Yet I've also read that some of these supermax prisoners are allowed, if they behave themselves, certain priveledges---for example--a tv, or radio, or reading material.
Also some of these prisoners are kept locked up 23 out of 24 hours of the day for their own protection.
A person could imagine how long Moussaoui would last in the general population. Maybe 2 minutes.

Lastly, yes, our correctional system is ferocious. Yet, it's nice compared to a few other nations' systems--China, Turkey, some South American prisons. Conditions there are equally as bad, but shorter-lived--as the prisoners aren't around long enough to complain.

The UN has looked into conditions at certain supermax prisons here and a few changes have been made--others probably likely to come.

Ha Ha you are a funny guy.


Who.....Bush??

He hasn't even been tried yet.

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Oddly, I, like you, was hoping Moussaoui would get the death penalty, .....but as for me it was because it would for him be a more humane punishment.

Isnt there some sort of Muslim community in US Prison system,mainly among the black inmate community,if so,would these people see him as an icon of sorts.

I'm not sure but I assume that the Black Muslims in prison gangs resemble something like the Nation of Islam. Zarcarias associates himself with mainstream Islam. So I am really not sure if the black muslims would really look at Zacaria as an icon. To much of the muslim world, Zacarias is far from being an icon.

If detained in a super-max, he'll not be assocating with anyone anytime soon.

Moussaoui hoax

911 is a hoax. Many people have realized it was a government inside work. The trial of Moussaoui is only a show. To convince the others 911 attack was done by Al Qaida.

Moussaoui plays the same role as Padilla. Padilla is an informant and was arrested for "dirty bomb" case. He was used to prove that Saddam had planned to attack US.

Intelligence used to eliminate anyone who could reveal the truth. In 911 attack, all 19 hijackers died in crash. In London bombing, all four "suicide bombers" were blew to pieces. In Madrid bombing, the "bombers" all died in a police raid. Thus nobody knew the truth ever. But they also want people believe the attack was done by Al Qaida not others. So there are prepared witness: Padilla and Moussaoui. The men worked for intelligence.

Moussaoui was arrested one month earlier before 911 attack. It was said there was plan in his computer but FBI didn't search his computer. FBI said they were afraid to touch the wall of domestic criminal law. It's ridiculous. Moussaoui is a foreigner. He fits for FISA, even a nonprofessional knows. FBI is notorious for abusing their power, do you believe they won't search a detaineer's computer?

But Moussaoui was designated for being a witness of 911. That's why he was arrested, with obvious evidence to be a witness. But at the same time FBI said they didn't search the evidence. Because otherwise the 911 attack couldn't go true. And D.O.J. couldn't get the Patriout Act, and the Inside group couldn't have the war in Mid-east.

There was another big flaw there. One principle for the secret work, either for a spy, an intelligence job, or for a terrorist, is that if one of them was arrested, the plan would be cancelled immediately and the team would withdraw. Because it was assumed the plan has been revealed. How could the other hijakers behaved like nothing happened. They going on a normal life until 911, with one of them arrested for weeks. Or do they know FBI won't search their fellow's computer?

Another big joke was when the hijacker going for a top secret job, would they bring a plan with them? It could be used only for evidence. So much for Moussaoui's case.

How do you know all this?

Bu common sense.

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Moussaoui hoax (2)

Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.

He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.

Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?

Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.

The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.

Is it a chaotic show?

I'll say this, not that you care. If you turn off the autopilot and walk out of the cockpit, the airplane will continue on in a nice straight line until it runs out of fuel. Flying a plane isn't hard. Landing, taking off, navigating, dealing with emergencies - that's hard. But flying in a straight line and doing some turns, not so much.

What you talked about is remote control. And one thing you should understand is you can never hit a target when you only know to fly straight. To hit a target with a high speed airplane needs experienced skill. And high level of Pentagon was told so.

Quote, "The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=AP FN;pagemark=40

What you talked about is remote control. And one thing you should understand is you can never hit a target when you only know to fly straight.

No, I'm not talking about remote control, I'm talking about the inherent stability of civil aircraft - they want to fly straight. And I said that flying straight and turning is not hard. I have a degree in this stuff - trust me.

No, I'm not talking about remote control, I'm talking about the inherent stability of civil aircraft - they want to fly straight. And I said that flying straight and turning is not hard. I have a degree in this stuff - trust me.

Yes, if you don't touch the control panel, that's easy, anyone can do it without train, the air plane will fly straight to somewhetre but not the target you want to hit. To hit a target, it needs skill to control the plane upwards and downwards, rightwards or leftwards. At a speed of about 500 feet/second, with a machine you have never operated, I would rather believe "military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students " then so said your degree.

Or better you go convince the media such like NewYork Times to report your conclusion rather than the flight experts.

Re: "Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 described by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a single engine Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?

Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...

At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.

However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html

Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."

By JIM YARDLEY (NYT) 592 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 10 , Column 2

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A11FD35550C778CDDAC0894DA4044 82

Maybe all these flight instructors have no degree at all?

Moussaoui hoax (3)

The background why Moussaoui is put on court at this time. It's when Charlie Sheen had his opinion that 911 is likely an inside job and other experts in succession suggest that 911 was manipulated by this administration as another Pearl Harbor. Bush government is in a trough of untrustworthy. They need help. So they push out Moussaoui.

Moussaoui's "I am Al Qaida." became the big title of media. He admitted his mission was to fly the fifth plane to hit the White House. That's what government wants. How convenient they got the evidence to prove it's an Al Qaida's work not their's.

But question comes again. How could Moussaoui hijack a plane by himself? How could he control the passengers while flying a plane? Where is other team member? So now government must find some other puppets and create some stories to support this 5th plane's story.

What a circus. Still we saw government releasing the conversation between the WTC victim and 911 emergence dispatcher, or let out a new film of "flight 93". At this time, it was used as a tool of psychological influence. You can see how government control public's mind if you stand at a higher level and watch over these news.

Moussaoui hoax (4)

FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation

Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002

The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.

What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.

There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html

When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.

But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?

That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.

Government released a cockpit tape. It could be a fake from the "disinformation strategy office" of intelligence. As cheap as Bin Laden's tape and Nick Berg's beheading tape. To produce one like that is as easy as to produce a film "Flight 93".

Appeals to Fabricated Evidence

The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings, allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door. Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally broken open using a drink cart."

Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!"). Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these! They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God, Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.

Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies "Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial appears to be following a script.

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Prof. James Fetzer
218-726-7269

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100677;title=AP FN

The actual events were created hoax. Cheney knew it before news reported it. All this was pre-planned.

Quote, "Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
Sat Apr 15, 2006 00:06
64.140.158.37
Flight 93: The New Media Campaign

by Russell Pickering
russellpickering@bresnan.net

Why has Flight 93 suddenly taken center stage? Plain and simple it is the last resort of the perpetrators to hide. As 9/11 Truth groups successfully move forward with the goal of awakening Americans to the facts of the four events that occurred that day, only one is in a remote, obscure field. Only one was unavailable for real inspection (even in photos) until the trial. Only one is embedded in a legend of heroism.

Is there any evidence that the story of heroism was a pre-planned cover story? Yes there is. In an interview with CNN's John King in the vice president's office on September 11, 2002 Cheney was reported to have made a very interesting statement.

"Word came that Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Aides frantically called the White House to find out whether a military jet had shot it down.

"'The vice president was a little bit ahead of us,' said Eric Edelman, Cheney's national security advisor. 'He said sort of softly and to nobody in particular, 'I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane.'" (1)

In the context of having just given shoot down orders they received word that Flight 93 had crashed. They had no idea why as evidenced by the fact they were trying to determine if a military jet had shot it down. But Cheney in an underground bunker with confusion raging everywhere and no knowledge beyond what his aides were telling him says, "I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane."? Wait a second…..what could he have possibly based that statement on?

Even his aide noticed Cheney was, "a little bit ahead of us". I would go so far as to say he was a lot ahead of everybody. There was absolutely no possible way that Cheney was aware of the alleged cell phone calls and most certainly he had not heard the cockpit voice recorder. Where did he get his idea from?

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100501;title=AP FN

Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 described by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a single engine Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?

Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...

At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.

However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html

Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."

May 4, 2002, Saturday

A Trainee Noted for Incompetence

By JIM YARDLEY (NYT) 592 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 10 , Column 2

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A11FD35550C778CDDAC0894DA4044 82

Stephen M. St. John
Precursors to Remote-Controlled Flights of 9/11?
Tue May 2, 2006 18:17

The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=AP FN;pagemark=40

Zionist Commando Daniel Lewin Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks
His Troops Stole Arab Identites While Mossad Agents In Hollywood, Florida Assassinated Mohammed Atta And Framed Him For The Crime

3/7/2004 12:55:07 AM
Anonymous

Now about Mohamed Atta … the so-called "ring leader". There are a number of inconsistencies with that story as well. Like some of the 7 hijackers known to be still alive, Atta also had his passport stolen in 1999, (perhaps the same passport that miraculously survived the WTC explosion and collapse?), making him an easy mark for identity theft. Atta was known to all as a shy, timid and sheltered young man who was uncomfortable with women. The 5 foot 7 inch, 150 pound architecture student was such a "goody two shoes" that some of his university acquaintances in Germany refrained from drinking or cursing in front of him. How this gentle, non-political momma's boy from a good Egyptian family suddenly transformed himself into the vodka drinking, go-go girl groping terrorist animal described by the media, has to rank as the greatest personality change since another classic work of fiction, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
Atta, or someone using Atta's identity, had enrolled in a Florida flight school in 2001 and then broke off training, making it a point to tell his instructor he was leaving for Boston, In an October 2001 interview with an ABC affiliate in Florida, flight school president Rudi Dekkers said that his course does not qualify pilots to fly jumbo jets. He also described Atta as "an asshole" Part of the reason for Dekker's dislike for Atta stems from a highly unusual incident that occurred at the beginning of the course. Here's the exchange between ABC producer Quentin McDermott and Dekkers:
MCDERMOTT: "Why do you say Atta was an asshole?"

DEKKERS: "Well, when Atta was here and I saw his face on several occasions in the building, then I know that they're regular students and then I try to talk to them, it's a kind of PR – where are you from? I tried to communicate with him. I found out from my people that he lived in Hamburg and he spoke German so one of the days that I saw him, I speak German myself, I'm a Dutch citizen, and I started in the morning telling him in German, "Good morning. How are you? How do you like the coffee? Are you happy here?", and he looked at me with cold eyes, didn't react at all and walked away. That was one of my first meetings I had."
That is easily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the so- called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language) at the beginning of that course. The Minnesota Star Tribune reported on December 21, 2001:
"Moussaoui first raised eyebrows when, during a simple introductory exchange, he said he was from France, but then didn't seem to understand when the instructor spoke French to him. Moussaoui then became belligerent and evasive about his background, Congressman Oberstar and other sources said. In addition, he seemed inept at basic flying procedures, while seeking expensive training on an advanced commercial jet simulator."
It truly is an amazing twist of fate that both Atta and Moussaoui had American flight instructors who spoke German and French respectively. Even the great Mossad could not have foreseen such a coincidence! The real Atta would have been able to respond to his instructor's German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been able to respond to his instructor's French small talk. Atta just walked away and Moussaoui threw a fit! Neither responded because neither could. They were impostors, whose faces were probably disguised by a make up artist. Their mission was to frame the two innocent Arabs who were probably targeted by the Mossad at random.

The imposter was able to create a new Atta by using Atta's stolen passport from 1999 – the same passport that floated safely to the ground with a few burnt edges on 9-11. These strange inconsistencies tend to give support to Mohammed Atta's father's claim that he spoke over the phone with his son on September 12th, the day after the attacks. Could a group of professionals have abducted and killed the real Atta in the days following the 9-11 attacks? Mossad agents, posing as "art students" were arrested after conducting some kind of operation in Hollywood, Florida, the same town that Atta stayed in! So what happened to the real Mohammed Atta? To quote his grief stricken father: "Ask Mossad!"