I think in this very moment I have decided to boycott my job on Monday. Although, I am an American citizen and both of my parents are/were legal immigrants to this great nation, there is no way that I could not stand with others (legal and illegal) in this country whose only crime is wanting to survive and secure the survival of their family.

90% of the time, I will be the first one to support and abide by the laws of this country. A country that I love. I will not be raising a Mexican flag. I am Hispanic by race, Mexican by dual nationality, but I AM AMERICAN first.

I think it is necessary at times to give a foundation as to who you are so that those you debate, or debunk might have a better understanding.

I sure hope you aren't going to take a sick day or ask for a paid day off.

Great Job....I agree sometimes you just have to stand up for what you believe in...

I think you are doing the wrong thing.

I think you should stand up for what you believe is right. :)

Fine, Vile, people should stand up for what they believe in but for that standing up to be truely effective they should be willing to accept the consequences of their actions. If students think it is important to illegaly leave school they should accept suspensions or not being allowed to attend their prom as consequences of their actions. If workers think it is the right thing to shut down cities for their convictions they should accept not being paid or even being fired from their jobs for their actions.

So whatever you feel necessary but no whining after and no demands of amnesty.

Fine, Vile, people should stand up for what they believe in but for that standing up to be truely effective they should be willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

If the consequences are reasonable, I agree.


If students think it is important to illegaly leave school they should accept suspensions or not being allowed to attend their prom as consequences of their actions.

Perhaps. I don't think it's right to punish someone just because you don't agree with their protest.


If workers think it is the right thing to shut down cities for their convictions they should accept not being paid or even being fired from their jobs for their actions.

I wouldn't think a protester would expect to get paid for doing it.


So whatever you feel necessary but no whining after and no demands of amnesty.

What is it about protesting that you wish to discourage?

What is reasonable is not something to be decided by the protestors. It is to be decided by the authorities. I can still remember the student protestors who had trashed Columbia University demanding and being given amnesty. I can still remember the black protestors at Cornell University who threatened people's lives demanding and being given amnesty. No amnesty. If you feel your cause is worthy enough be prepared to take the punishment meted out.

It is not punishing people for what they believe but for their actions. If a student is not in school the school district loses an unbelievable amount of money. The students who wish to remain in school and learn are negatively affected. If students want to break educational law and illegally leave school they should be prepared to accept the consequences of their actions.

The same goes for those workers who are vowing to shut down cities. If they want to inconvenience and even endanger people by shutting down a city they should be prepared to accept the consequences of their actions. If a sick patient can't get to the hospital ion time because they have shut down the city they are the ones responsible. If property is damaged in any way, they are the ones responsible. If people are forced to miss work because of their protests they are the ones responsible. Protest all you want but be prepared to accept the consequences of your actions.

You ask what it is about protesting I wish to discourage. It isn't protesting in itself I wish to discourage it is protesting by people who are here illegally aimed at forcing the U.S. government to accede to their demands that I wish to discourage. When have law breakers, people who have no right to be here ever been allowed to mass to demand that a souvreign nation bend to their will? Since when do people who are here illegally have the right to demand anything?

I think you should stand up for what you believe is right.yup

And why is it she can't ask for a vacation day? Seems to me you can vacation wherever and however you want.

What is reasonable is not something to be decided by the protestors. It is to be decided by the authorities.Authorities decide the consequences for protesters, and protesters must be willing to face those consequences. But that does not make the consequences reasonable. The state of Alabama, for example, recently passed legislation that acknowledged the consequences it had imposed on civil rights protesters were unreasonable. If a student is not in school the school district loses an unbelievable amount of money. The students who wish to remain in school and learn are negatively affected.If a prisoner escapes from a concentration camp knowing that 10 prisoners will be killed as a punishment for his escape, do you blame the escapee for their deaths or the commandant who orders the executions? Students who are disruptive in class negatively affect others. But it is the system established by the authorities that negatively affects them when one of their number chooses to protest rather than go to school.

Actually, I am taking a vacation day, and WHY THE HECK NOT???
I can take a vacation day to sit around in my underoos and watch Jerry Springer, but not to protest or stand up for what I believe in?

I do not think this day off crap will do anything except make many people angry.

I do not think this day off crap will do anything except make many people angry.

Make people angry why? Because they are inconvenienced?

Make people angry why? Because they are inconvenienced?

Because it strikes people as demanding something that they're not entitled to. Kind of like your neighbor coming over and demanding that you let him use your lawnmower. You might have been fine with letting him borrow it until he started acting like it was his.

What exactly is being demanded that you would or should not offer?

What exactly is being demanded that you would or should not offer?
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Illegal activity.

What exactly is being demanded that you would or should not offer?

Let's start with jumping to the head of the citizenship line for one demand that should not be met.

What about all the people who have followed the rules and sought citizenship the legal way? Are we to tell these people that, Gee, we're sorry but we are going to let these illegal aliens who did not follow the rules cut in front of you.

How about rewarding illegal action. Is the message we are to send going to be, break the law, demonstrate and demand that you get your way and the U.S. government will shake in its boots and give in to your demands?

You have an emotional stake in seeing that the illegal aliens are granted their demands. You have already identified yourself as someone with dual loyalties to both Mexico and the United States. Looking at the number of Mexican flags in the crowds it seems that many of the illegals also hold either dual loyalties or are loyal to Mexico and not the United States.

This has very little to do with them wanting to become Americans and a whole lot to do with them wanting to make more money. Conditions in Mexico are bad, not because of the United States but because of the corrupt Mexican government. The politicians are corrupt, the police are corrupt, the armed forces are corrupt. Let Mexico put its own house in order and its citizens will not be scrambling to leave the country. It is not the job of the United States to act as a safety valve for the corrupt country of Mexico.

In a side note: Just think what it would be like if the United States treated those crossing its souther border as Mexico treats those crossing the souther border of Mexico. Rather than allowing them to march and disrupt the lives of people we would have the army and police hunting them down and shooting them. That is what Mexico does to its illegal aliens.

Both of my parents and my siblings are legal Mexican immigrants. There is no doubt that the Mexican government is corrupt. There is no doubt that the Mexican economy is being supported by America. What I am saying is that if you have no choice but to cross a border to feed your family, that is what you will do.


If America applied as much pressure to the Mexican government to reform their system of government as is applied to those national with petroleum interests, then I believe the immigration issues (at least from Mexico) would diminish.

Just as the pilgrims fled their country seeking religious freedoms, others are also searching for hope. 90% of the time I follow a very conservative model of life, but I cannot pretend to believe that deporting all of the illegals in this country is going to benefit our economy or that of Mexico.

I believe you get what you deserve and what you work for in this life. As for the neighbor scenario, If I was a multi-millionaire and my neighbor was poor and destitute struggling to live, I suppose a good business practice might be to lend a hand, so an arm is not stolen.

[QUOTE=Divalatina] There is no doubt that the Mexican government is corrupt.....
If America applied as much pressure to the Mexican government to reform their system of government as is applied to those national with petroleum interests, then I believe the immigration issues (at least from Mexico) would diminish. [/QUOTE.
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I also believe:

If the Mexican people and supporters applied as much pressure to the Mexican government to reform their system of government as is applied to the United States to reform its laws, then I believe the immigration issues (at least from Mexico) would diminish.

If America applied as much pressure to the Mexican government to reform their system of government as is applied to those national with petroleum interests, then I believe the immigration issues (at least from Mexico) would diminish.

You may not realize it, Divalatina but Mexico is a petroleum exporting country.

Actually, I am taking a vacation day, and WHY THE HECK NOT???
I can take a vacation day to sit around in my underoos and watch Jerry Springer, but not to protest or stand up for what I believe in?
Are you sure they aren't one and the same thing? Look, I'm a manager in my family's business, and because these people are taking the day off to "show" us (a small business, no less :rolleyes: ) how powerful their lobby is, I've decided to award them a nice bag of "get the fuck off my property - you're FIRED, assholes" when they come in tomorrow. This is our busiest time of year, and our shipper and two welders decided to ditch us when we needed them most. My work load just increased by a fold of five (and now I have to look forward to bullshit manual labor on top of it), but I'll be damned if I'm ever held hostage by people who, A) hardly make an effort to speak my language, B) aren't here legally, C) don't want to assimilate, D) use it as a cheap excuse to ditch work, and E) are egregiously and knowingly giving sanction to breaking the law. I can't BELIEVE we're even entertaining the idea of letting ILLEGAL ALIENS partake in CONSTITUTIONAL activities on our soil while we sit back and take it up the ass like Nathan Lane in some Californian bathhouse. The goddamned NERVE of these people!!!! If we're not abiding by the laws here anymore, then do me a favor and tell me; what laws DO we abide by??? I'm curious...

To be completely honest here, this shit ROYALLY pisses me off. Probably more so than ANY topic being discussed currently...

Are you sure they aren't one and the same thing? Look, I'm a manager in my family's business, and because these people are taking the day off to "show" us (a small business :rolleyes: ) how powerful their lobby is, I've decided to award them a nice bag of "get the fuck off my property - you're FIRED, assholes" when they come in tomorrow. This is our busiest time of year, and our shipper and two welders decided to ditch us when we needed them most. My work load just increased by a fold of five (and now I have to look forward to bullshit manual labor on top of it), but I'll be damned if I'm ever held hostage by people who, A) hardly make an effort to speak my language, B) aren't here legally, C) don't want to assimilate, D) use it as a cheap excuse to ditch work, and E) are egregiously and knowingly giving sanction to breaking the law. I can't BELIEVE we're even entertaining the idea of letting ILLEGAL ALIENS partake in CONSTITUTIONAL activities on our soil while we sit back and take it up the ass like Nathan Lane in some Californian bathhouse. The goddamned NERVE of these people!!!! If we're not abiding by the laws here anymore, then do me a favor and tell me; what laws DO we abide by??? I'm curious...

To be completely honest here, this shit ROYALLY pisses me off. Probably more so than ANY topic being discussed currently...

Sorry this pisses you off so much Prae, but just out of curiosity...why do you employ illegal aliens? I sorta thought that was, you know...illegal.

What exactly is being demanded that you would or should not offer?

Allowing about 11 million illegal immigrants to become citizens via amnesty rather than making them follow the rules as apparently your parents (as well as my mother) did.

Sorry, but that is wrong.

If America applied as much pressure to the Mexican government to reform their system of government as is applied to those national with petroleum interests, then I believe the immigration issues (at least from Mexico) would diminish.

You may not realize it, Divalatina but Mexico is a petroleum exporting country.


Yes I realize it is a petroleum exporting country, but not on near the level as the other countries we choose to invade and change.

To be completely honest here, this shit ROYALLY pisses me off. Probably more so than ANY topic being discussed currently...


It also makes me angry. I am actually happy to know this issue has outted many closet bigots, though.

It also makes me angry. I am actually happy to know this issue has outted many closet bigots, though.
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How can you call people bigots, when the law clearly denotes what is legal and what is illegal concerning this matter, regardless of tolerant or intolerant opinions.

Sorry this pisses you off so much Prae, but just out of curiosity...why do you employ illegal aliens? I sorta thought that was, you know...illegal.
No, we don't hire illegal aliens, but then again, neither do McDonalds, Wendy's, Burger King, or most other legitimate businesses. And who, exactly, took the opportunity to screw us? The ones who decided to ditch their work so they can collectively flex their sandwich making/car washing/landscape-caring muscles. They intentionally HURT the very economy that took them in, gave them jobs, and made their lives better. Why? So they can prove just how much we need them. You know what, Vile, the issue here isn't the illegals - it's our government. Not only that, but it's the people here who’ve given the green light to breaking the law with impunity. I'll ask it again: if we're cherry picking laws, then which ones do we abide by?

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How can you call people bigots, when the law clearly denotes what is legal and what is illegal concerning this matter, regardless of tolerant or intolerant opinions.
Explain that to a Mexican, legal or not. I guess it's a hazy concept...

So, according to both Prae and Divalatina, unless we kowtow to these illegalimmigrants we risk being called bigots. I for one take offense at that implication. No one has spoken out against legal immigrants, Hispanic, Asian, African, Caribbean or coming from any other area.

Illegal immigrants come not only from Mexico but also from Ireland, China, other Latin American countries and parts of Europe.

It is a fact, little known, but still a fact that the number of Irish in New York has decreased drastically in recent times as vast numbers or illegal Irish immigrants return to Ireland rather than risk being barred from the country for years if caught here illegally.

Bigotry works both ways. You can be bigotted against something or bigotted in favor of something. It seems Divalatina is a closet bigot who is in favor of Latinos even if they have broken the law, simply because they are Latinos.

Exactly, Frogger. This has nothing to do with xenophobia or bigotry, period. To put it simply, our government should be lynched for allowing this to happen. Anyone who doesn't think this is the most offensive form of cheap opportunism fostered by seedy politicians pandering for votes in the most nefarious of fashions is a retard, plain and simple. To be completely honest, I have a difficult time blaming the illegals, for they're only acting in their best interest, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Allowing these people to wholesale INVADE our country is a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Wages will not remain low forever, and when they hike, we'll have 20 million more mouths to feed. In short, our government is ruining this country with the help of people who have NO FUCKING RIGHT to be here and no desire to call themselves Americans. I don't hate the Mexicans, I hate our government, and I'm thoroughly disappointed with Bush. BIGOT THAT, Divalatina.

Oh, and incase you're wondering, the firings went quite well. No call, no show...bye-bye.

So, according to both Prae and Divalatina, unless we kowtow to these illegalimmigrants we risk being called bigots. I for one take offense at that implication.

I do not recall specifically calling anyone on here a bigot...at least not in reference to the immigration issues. Let's be 100% clear, although all illegal immigrants are not from Mexico, when we talk about illegal immigration on a nationwide level, we are talking about Mexicans for the most part. I don't want anyone to kowtow to anyone. I believe we all should obey the law and enter into this country through the legal means which are provided. I am just not naive or insensitive enough to believe that if a man's family is starving and the only thing in the way of food is a border, then he will not cross it because someone deemed it illegal.

Oh, and incase you're wondering, the firings went quite well. No call, no show...bye-bye.


Anyone who decided to take part in the protests/boycott also should have expected to deal with any consequences.

Anyone who decided to take part in the protests/boycott also should have expected to deal with any consequences.
I have no problem with any American citizen taking part in a protest, but I do have a problem with employees not calling in and not showing up. The ones who requested a vacation day or called in sick get a reprieve.

I have no problem with any American citizen taking part in a protest, but I do have a problem with employees not calling in and not showing up. The ones who requested a vacation day or called in sick get a reprieve.

I could not agree with you more.

This seems a little bizarre. It might be just me.

This immigrant thing is a political point scoring exercise by the White House nothing else,the only way to stop illegals,its not even illegals,its Mexicans,from entering the US 'illegally',is to build a wall on the scale of,Korea say...

Not Korea. China.

Just had an idea,tell me,are there many Mexican bricklayers...

Just had an idea,tell me,are there many Mexican bricklayers...

Yes there are. There are even Mexican Minutemen.

Just had an idea,tell me,are there many Mexican bricklayers...
I'd say probably 40% of the construction workers in this country are Mexican, so my guess is yes - there are probably LOTS Mexican bricklayers. That being said, it would be kind of funny to employ them along with roughly 50,000 illegals to help build a massive wall with gun turrets and electrified fences replete with signs that read, IN ENGLISH: NO TRESSPASING. Enter under penalty of death.

Maybe then they'd get the message...

Good idea Prae, it will scare them off. What do they expect from a country that can't even spell correctly?

Good idea Prae, it will scare them off. What do they expect from a country that can't even spell correctly?


Kave- This is why I still love you!

Yes there are. There are even Mexican Minutemen.
I read a story a while ago about a Mexican woman whose parents entered illegally back in the '50's, had something like 7 or 8 children, and used to run one of the biggest Mexican safe houses for people crossing the Rio Grand. She grew up in a home that was always giving refuge to, literally, hundreds of people at any given time. Anyway, she was determined to make a life for herself here in the states. She completed college, got her masters, married a Mexican man for whom she had three children, one of which (her oldest, I believe) was shot and killed by an illegal alien. Needless to say, her perspective on giving refuge to people who aren't checked out by our government took a 180. Since then, she's become one of the most outspoken Mexicans about guarding our borders and deporting (and/or imprisoning) illegal aliens. Naturally, she's bore the brunt of her countrymen's slings, and Mexican people everywhere seemingly hate her guts. Her husband divorced her because of her position on illegal immigration, and her kids don't talk to her. Despite all that, she continues to fight the good fight. I say good for her...

Sometimes standing up for what believe in is difficult. Sometimes what we choose to stand up for changes.

Good idea Prae, it will scare them off. What do they expect from a country that can't even spell correctly?
What is that supposed to mean?

What is that supposed to mean?
It is a reference to lack of spelling skills - I think.

Sometimes what we choose to stand up for changes.
Could you give me an example?

What is that supposed to mean?

It is spelled 'trespassing', not 'tresspasing.'

It is a reference to lack of spelling skills - I think.
Only loosely.

What he was saying was that a dumb country deserves a dumb plan for border patrol.

Only loosely.

What he was saying was that a dumb country deserves a dumb plan for border patrol.Yeah, keep thinking that...:rolleyes:

It is spelled 'trespassing', not 'tresspasing.'
Well thanks for transparent message, jerk-off. Oh, and kudos on your spelling acuity....

...I’m highly impressed. :rolleyes:

Well thanks for transparent message, jerk-off. Oh, and kudos on your spelling acuity....

What do they expect from a country that can't even spell correctly?
What is transparent? And why are you such a dick? :D

And why are you such a dick?
Because there are only three kinds of people out there: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pick your poison.

Because there are only three kinds of people out there: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pick your poison.

The third tastes pretty funky, I guess I'll mix the other two in a vain attempt to get a good taste.

The third tastes pretty funky, I guess I'll mix the other two in a vain attempt to get a good taste.
........:eek:........

That's not what I meant when I said "pick your poison"...

That's not what I meant when I said "pick your poison"...Perhaps you took it the wrong way?

Prae,I thought it very sporting of you to suggest that the warning signs on the wall were in English,I liked that...

Prae,I thought it very sporting of you to suggest that the warning signs on the wall were in English,I liked that...

The only problem is that there is a higher percentage of Hispanics that can read English than those who feel comfortable enough to speak it, although I do not think it any easier to speak to a country bumpkin (born and raised here) with a limited grasp of the English language, than a person with a South of the Border accent.

I think the, Day Without Immigrants, (I notice they didn't say a day without illegal immigrants), backfired. Before the mass demonstrations, the waving Mexican flags, the signs reading reconquista, and, we didn't cross the border the border crossed us, most people were rather complacent regarding illegal immigration. That complacancy has been replaced by anger, anger that people who are here illegaly would dare make demands of us, that people who are here illegaly would dare make veiled threats of reconquista.

The influx of illegal immigrants into this country has caused wages in lower tier jobs to plummet. Jobs that once paid $15 or $16 dollars an hour now pay $6 or $7 an hour. This is the reason legal American citizens don't want to take them. Prices haven't gone down, but profits for those employing illegal aliens have gone up.

I mow my own lawn and clean my own house but if I didn't I would be willing to pay more to have only people here legally do the work.

I think the, Day Without Immigrants, (I notice they didn't say a day without illegal immigrants), backfired.
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Seems they have really screwed up. Watching the news, it seems that the Black Leaders of the Civil Rights Movement are pissed at the illegals.
They have had it now.

Have to agree,if I was an illegal in the US,I would keep my head down and stay out of trouble...This seems to be a very touchey subject for you Frogger....

Perhaps you took it the wrong way?
I'm not sure how many other ways I could've taken it, but whatever, I digress.

Just one more thing, though...

How do you know what ass tastes like????

Just curious.

Smell and taste are intertwined, and that original statement wasn't focused on sexuality...okay, this is officially in the top ten worst threads of allForums. Please continue with the regularly scheduled thread.

Not particularly touchy, paulc. I just don't like being dictated to by people who are here illegaly. The mass marches were an attempt to intimidate and I not only don't intimidate easily, it gets my hackles up and I become even more determined to not allow you to get your way.

okay, this is officially in the top ten worst threads of allForums. Please continue with the regularly scheduled thread.
Well, it only went tangential because of your cryptic ass posting goofy messages.

Although, I have to admit, the spelling barb was pretty funny. You got me there...

Well, it only went tangential because of your cryptic ass posting goofy messages. It is not "cryptic" merely because you cannot understand the message (that clearly spelled out it was about spelling).

Divalatina said: I am Hispanic by race, Mexican by dual nationality, but I AM AMERICAN first.

Well, the Mexicans, are Américans too, and so are the Colombians, the Panamenians, the Cubans, and don't forget that the Canadians too.

This seems a little bizarre.Yes, it is. It might be just me.Nope.

It is not "cryptic" merely because you cannot understand the message (that clearly spelled out it was about spelling).
And just think......I was gonna let it go. ::sigh::

No, Evakian, I think it's safe to assume that a lot of people scratch their heads when they read some of the shit you write. Just to clarify, I'm not a stupid man, but make no mistake about it - some of your entries are utterly puzzling. I'm not even referencing the spelling corrections you dish out on a regular basis (annoyingly, nonetheless)....

No, it's the bizarro-world of Evakian humor that eludes me. I can describe it as nothing more than a fog that surrounds an otherwise decent thread 80% of the time.

And in answer to your question yesterday, I’m a dick because you, like most pantywaists, bring out the best in me. You remind me of that lone, obscure child, in which your parents (or if I were to hazard a guess - most parents for that matter) probably liked, but amazingly enough, everyone else arrived at the conclusion that you were a fucking weirdo (read; your contemporaries). You know, the kind of kid who probably played with Ken dolls, and was caught masturbating with produce in some cobbled together fort. Of course, I could be wrong, but somehow I seriously doubt it.

I’m sorry dude, but the long and short of it is you give me the heebie-jeebies. I hope that clearly spelled it out for you.

Divalatina said: I am Hispanic by race, Mexican by dual nationality, but I AM AMERICAN first.

Well, the Mexicans, are Américans too, and so are the Colombians, the Panamenians, the Cubans, and don't forget that the Canadians too.


How clever of you to play on words. However let's stick to the topic. I don't think waving the flag of another country in Estados Unidos is a very good way to show loyalty or desire for citizenship here.

I don't think waving the flag of another country in Estados Unidos is a very good way to show loyalty or desire for citizenship here.
Hear, hear.

And just think......I was gonna let it go. ::sigh:: God sakes man! Try, because I sure as hell can't...I can't even let spelling errors go. *struggles*
Just to clarify, I'm not a stupid man, but make no mistake about it - some of your entries are utterly puzzling. I'm not even referencing the spelling corrections you seem so willing to dish out on a regular basis (annoyingly, nonetheless)... What I find puzzling is someone's inability to discern what I mean, if they fail it makes it all the more enjoyable for me. You say you are not a stupid man, but you're one of the few people I've made contact with who doesn't "get it." (and attempting to make a quip about the size of my social circle is akin to giving up)
And in answer to your question yesterday... Well, you of course are wrong. I've never laid hands on a Ken doll or accosted some vegetables. And if you think I act exactly this way in person, that's a stark "no." Besides, these sort of passages are just entertainment for me, I poke at you because it is "funny", I debate things with you (whether I believe them or not) to see your jerking reactions and piss-poor insults (pantywaister? tsk tsk). So keep at it if you wish, my good man.

I have many relations who migrated to the US in the 60s,aunts,uncles,they went with a dream of a better life,and although some of them didnt make as much of it as they would have liked,they all agree the oppertunity to do so was there for them,one of their biggest ambitions on leaving Ireland was to become American Citizens,and although they remember their roots,they all to a man and woman are now Americans,not Irish...This seems to be missing from some new immigrants?...

I've never laid hands on a Ken doll
Riiiiiight.
(pantywaister? tsk tsk)
It wasn't an insult - it was a statement of fact. Take it however you want to. Oh, and the word is pantywaist, not pantywaister.

Every day I thank God that Ronald Reagan sent troops to fight the mighty Grenada on Grenadan soil so that we wouldn't have to fight Grenadans here.
Doesn't everyone?

I have many relations who migrated to the US in the 60s,aunts,uncles,they went with a dream of a better life,and although some of them didnt make as much of it as they would have liked,they all agree the oppertunity to do so was there for them,one of their biggest ambitions on leaving Ireland was to become American Citizens,and although they remember their roots,they all to a man and woman are now Americans,not Irish...This seems to be missing from some new immigrants?...I don't think that it's missing; just that it takes time. Given a few years, most immigrants will start to consider themselves American, but it's not going to happen from the minute they step into the country. And even if immigrants themselves don't fully assimilate, their children will most likely do so, having been born or brought up in the US.

In addition, responsibility for assimilation lies not just with the immigrant, but also with the society that he is trying to assimiliate into. It's difficult for a person to become an American when he's not seen as an American, which is something that happens all too often. This is more so when the immigrant is not white or black, or has a thick accent, and therefore does not have the convienience of simply blending into American society. If we want our immigrants to become American, then we will have to accept them as such.

Note: Waving the flag of another country while in the US does not help one's cause.

Every day I thank God that Ronald Reagan sent troops to fight the mighty Grenada on Grenadan soil so that we wouldn't have to fight Grenadans here.
Doesn't everyone?
:lolhit:
OMG TEH TERRORISTS!!!1!1!!

It amazed me that 'Ronnie Raygun',ever found it on the map,I couldnt...