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elp
03-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Man! It must be hot chasing criminals while wearing these kinds of clothes ;)


http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIdGVRYF0j8

LionelHutz
03-15-2006, 12:04 PM
Who says women are second-class citizens in Iran?

mad dog
03-15-2006, 01:09 PM
I have to say that would be a stupid outfit to wear as a police officer. Step on the bottom and trip them up very easy for a thug to do some damage.

DrewM
03-15-2006, 07:30 PM
Wow - that video is hilarious!

Evakian
03-15-2006, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by DrewM
Wow - that video is hilarious!

I'll drink to that.

googs
03-15-2006, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by DrewM
Wow - that video is hilarious!

Why is it hilarious?

DrewM
03-15-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by googs
Why is it hilarious?

Come on - it's pure comedy.

Evakian
03-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by googs
Why is it hilarious?

The awkwardness of the dress during such a situation. IOW, Rappelling off a building in a burqa is hysterical.

DrewM
03-15-2006, 07:58 PM
The women in buqua's doing the starsky & hutch routine really cracked me up.

googs
03-15-2006, 08:07 PM
Yet you guys claim you guys are not racist. Sigh.

DrewM
03-15-2006, 08:09 PM
How does that make somebody racist?

Does having a sense of humor make you racist?

Man you are really a screwed up person. Lighten up & stop thinking the world is against you.

googs
03-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by DrewM
How does that make somebody racist?

Does having a sense of humor make you racist?

Man you are really a screwed up person. Lighten up & stop thinking the world is against you.


Just telling the truth.

Vilepagan
03-15-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by googs
Yet you guys claim you guys are not racist. Sigh.

Lighten up googs. The video definitely had it's comedic aspects, and it had nothing to do with race...anyone would look ridiculous rappeling in a burqua. Also mad dog's comment about the safety aspects of the outfit are right on. Ever wonder why the Marines keep their hair so short? It isn't a fashion statement, it's so you can't grab onto it.

googs
03-15-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Lighten up googs. The video definitely had it's comedic aspects, and it had nothing to do with race...anyone would look ridiculous rappeling in a burqua. Also mad dog's comment about the safety aspects of the outfit are right on. Ever wonder why the Marines keep their hair so short? It isn't a fashion statement, it's so you can't grab onto it.

Making an insult to traditional clothing is in insult to me. You're justifications are lame. People are so hypocritcal these days. You guys claim Islam gives women no rights but when you guys see something like this you make jokes. And I for one do not think its funny.

DrewM
03-15-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by googs
Just telling the truth.

Yes - your truth.

I think you might benefit from some Prozac.

Your bottom line is if somebody isn't worshipping at your feet & agreeing with everything you think then they are racist.

Watch the video posted in another thread - you could learn something from that arab woman.

Vilepagan
03-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by googs
Making an insult to traditional clothing is in insult to me. You're justifications are lame. People are so hypocritcal these days. You guys claim Islam gives women no rights but when you guys see something like this you make jokes. And I for one do not think its funny.

Who the heck is "you guys"?

You'll find that everyone has different opinions here, and perhaps you don't think it's funny, but other people do, and I think that's perfectly understandable.

Did anyone make a joke that was insulting to women, Iranians, arabs, or any other inappropriate comment?...No.

Evakian
03-15-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by googs
Making an insult to traditional clothing is in insult to me.

Calling us racist for knee-jerk laughing is insulting to us and comedy itself! :D

You're justifications are lame.

Finding it funny is sort of "not a choice", therefore the fact that we laugh is perfect justification.

People are so hypocritcal these days.

Like Mohammed and the many wives he kept, despite being limited to four?

And I for one do not think its funny.

Congratulations.

googs
03-15-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Who the heck is "you guys"?

You'll find that everyone has different opinions here, and perhaps you don't think it's funny, but other people do, and I think that's perfectly understandable.

Did anyone make a joke that was insulting to women, Iranians, arabs, or any other inappropriate comment?...No.

No but they implied it.

Vilepagan
03-15-2006, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by googs
No but they implied it.

I think you saw an insult where none was given. :)

googs
03-15-2006, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I think you saw an insult where none was given. :)
In your eyes, there may have not been an insult but in mine there was.

Evakian
03-15-2006, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by googs
In your eyes, there may have not been an insult but in mine there was.

You're reading the same text...I suppose you need to define 'insult'.

googs
03-15-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
You're reading the same text...I suppose you need to define 'insult'.

Being inconsiderate of other peoples beliefs, people have made insults toward the way these women dress. And me being a muslim, it affected me because I have family that dress and wear the hijab. Although they do not wear the veil over their face and they do not dress in black, it still had an effect. I wouldn't really say insult anymore but more of being inconsiderate. And since i was upset over previous statments, it sort of led into this discussion.

Vilepagan
03-15-2006, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by googs
Being inconsiderate of other peoples beliefs, people have made insults toward the way these women dress. And me being a muslim, it affected me because I have family that dress and wear the hijab. Although they do not wear the veil over their face and they do not dress in black, it still had an effect. I wouldn't really say insult anymore but more of being inconsiderate. And since i was upset over previous statments, it sort of led into this discussion.

Ok, fair enough. Let me ask, ignoring for a moment the religious propriety of the hijab, do you think it's appropriate attire for a police officer?

googs
03-15-2006, 09:59 PM
Of couse its not, but since you live in a regime like Iran what do u expect them to wear?

DrewM
03-15-2006, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by googs
In your eyes, there may have not been an insult but in mine there was.

So that means the problem is yours not mine.

That video was funny period. I can't pretend it wasn't funny just so you don't start crying.

Just because I found it funny doesn't mean I am racist.

If anybody here is racist - you are. Anybody who dares to even question anything you say is in the wrong.

mad dog
03-16-2006, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by googs
Yet you guys claim you guys are not racist. Sigh.

How am I being racist because I pointed out the obvious. You're reeeeeeeeally lost aren't you?

mad dog
03-16-2006, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
. Ever wonder why the Marines keep their hair so short? It isn't a fashion statement, it's so you can't grab onto it.


BUGS, which is also a safety concern

Vilepagan
03-16-2006, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by googs
Of couse its not, but since you live in a regime like Iran what do u expect them to wear?

In essence, you seem to be saying we should ignore the absurdity of trying to perform police work in this inappropriate attire because the clothing has some religious significance. You may have a point, but I think people might find it equally amusing to see a Christian nun in full habit scuba diving. The absurdity that was found amusing had nothing to do with the women's race, or religion, it was just funny to see someone wearing such clothing engaged in that particular activity.

500lbguerilla
03-16-2006, 09:47 AM
Making an insult to traditional clothing is in insult to me. You're justifications are lame. People are so hypocritcal these days. You guys claim Islam gives women no rights but when you guys see something like this you make jokes. And I for one do not think its funny. all right googs, now your full of it. They are not being racist. It doesn't matter if it offends you and it doesn't matter if they make jokes. People are allowed to think whatever they want is funny (or sad based on your perspective).

I was calling Reb, Prea and ES racist on the other threads because they were labeling all muslims fanatics and claiming the violent religious extremists were only muslims. That is racism.

People laughing at the fact that religious nuts are so oppressive that they make women wear shit the explicitly hinders their ability to do their jobs is funny.

Women are oppressed in Islamic countries. So are the men. If you can't that forcing all people to beleive the same thing is oppressive then you got some learning to do.

I talk shit about America for its messed up values but that nothing compared to Iran and Arabia. At least here people can choose to do what they please (and possibly be disciminated against for it). Over there, if your different, they throw you in jail forever.

BTW did anyone catch the great family guy episode where they move to saudia arabia (rhymes with labia)......

Evakian
03-16-2006, 11:30 AM
Good posts you two. :)

The Praetorian
03-16-2006, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
I was calling Reb, Prea and ES racist on the other threads because they were labeling all muslims fanatics and claiming the violent religious extremists were only muslims. That is racism.
Psssssst: it's a religion - not a race.

And just so we're clear - I was only pointing out the sheer number of Muslims that were given to rioting / firebombing / and, or general destruction in the name of their religion. Now, if that came across in a manner that made your limp-wristed ass a tad squeamish, then I'll have you know that I don't really give a fuck. Call me racist all you want, you anti-Semite; it’s water off a duck's back....

googs
03-16-2006, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
[B]all right googs, now your full of it. They are not being racist. It doesn't matter if it offends you and it doesn't matter if they make jokes. People are allowed to think whatever they want is funny (or sad based on your perspective).B]
I think I retracted the statement of them being racist/insult. However, I do think it was inconsiderate of them.

elp
03-17-2006, 10:16 AM
Inconsiderate to you? Uhh I'm SO fucking sorry. Well, frankly I don't give a shit about what you think anymore. You never offer constructive posts, always the same uhhh-you-are-insulting-islam-racist-prick bullshit! I'm so sick of reading it!
You posted about Prae showing his true colors? Well, your posts has certainly shown your true colors.

DrewM
03-17-2006, 09:20 PM
I will say that I believe Goog has good intent & some of his posts do show an ability to be rational. As soon as he gets over the "any discussion of Islam not aligned with his beliefs is insult & heresy" - then he'll be doing good.

Napsterbater
03-17-2006, 09:28 PM
Prae couldn't not show his true colors. Just the kinda guy he is.

DrewM
03-18-2006, 12:21 AM
Isn't the goal to show your true colors? People use that statement like it means something.

Napsterbater
03-18-2006, 12:58 AM
No, we usually hide them, the seedier sides of our personalities. You, in fact, have quite a surprising dark side when you get provoked. Googs thought he had provoked Prae, but that honor goes only to She-Devil, bless her heart.

DrewM
03-18-2006, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
You, in fact, have quite a surprising dark side when you get provoked.

it's nothing suprising to me, although I wouldn't call it a dark side. It's called getting annoyed.

She-Devil seems to have left - she's moved onto another board no doubt to preach to new people about how great & important in the world Canada is.

Napsterbater
03-18-2006, 01:21 AM
She's probably just busy. And really, she's just responding to blind American nationalism, which exists to a great degree on these boards.

Evakian
03-18-2006, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by googs
I think I retracted the statement of them being racist/insult. However, I do think it was inconsiderate of them.

You didn't retract it--you repeatedly made the assertion that you would not apologize or take back the comment. First you call members here racists, then repeat it over and over, then say you took it back when all turned convienient; where is this retraction?

elp
03-18-2006, 08:53 AM
At the risk of being called racist by googs, here's more fun from the middle east! :D

http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html

The Praetorian
03-20-2006, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
She's probably just busy. And really, she's just responding to blind American nationalism, which exists to a great degree on these boards.
"Blind American nationalism"??? Whatever you say, Nap. I suspect that short of calling America the shittiest country on Earth, you'd label anyone a "blind nationalist". I mean, after all, using your keen ability to rationalize the obvious, didn't you determine the show "Cops" was racist? Considering that fact alone, I think I'll take your assessment here with a grain of salt...

old-reb
03-20-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by elp
At the risk of being called racist by googs, here's more fun from the middle east! :D

http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html

I love Numa, Numa. I never did know what that french song was about and I didn't know Imams were into French music. What a party! Pass the wine.

The Praetorian
03-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Prae couldn't not show his true colors. Just the kinda guy he is.
Damn straight, and proud of it. Would you prefer conversing with someone who aired an on-line persona??? Oh, and on that note, I feel better having my character assassinated by some neo-Jungian, post modern Freudian, armchair quarterback of a quack. Keep up the good work, doc....

Evakian
03-20-2006, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by elp
At the risk of being called racist by googs, here's more fun from the middle east! :D

http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html

What a strange video- he's either suffering from some angina or the viagra is kicking in for the first time...

old-reb
03-20-2006, 08:17 PM
http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html

Originally posted by Evakian
What a strange video- he's either suffering from some angina or the viagra is kicking in for the first time...

The affliction has spread to the shores of America.

http://www.amishdonkey.com/numa-numa.php

500lbguerilla
03-20-2006, 08:43 PM
At the risk of being called racist by googs, here's more fun from the middle east!
Durka, Durka, WTF was that?!?!?!?!?!

He looked like an autistic kid in my class when he gets really frustrated...

Evakian
03-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
He looked like an autistic kid in my class when he gets really frustrated...

How cruel, why do I find that so funny? :D

Napsterbater
03-20-2006, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
Damn straight, and proud of it.

Nowhere did I say it was a bad thing.

Would you prefer conversing with someone who aired an on-line persona???

I enjoy conversing with all types, especially you, Prae. You bring a fresh energy to every discussion.

Oh, and on that note, I feel better having my character assassinated by some neo-Jungian, post modern Freudian, armchair quarterback of a quack. Keep up the good work, doc....

Here's your character back. You should keep better control of it, next time.

The Praetorian
03-20-2006, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
He looked like an autistic kid in my class when he gets really frustrated...
And why am I not surprised that you have an autistic kid in one of your classes...

Napsterbater
03-20-2006, 09:52 PM
neo-Jungian, post modern Freudian,

Would you be a dear and rehash, in your own words, the basics of Freud's and Jung's psychology, where they differ, and what their relationship was?

The Praetorian
03-20-2006, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Nowhere did I say it was a bad thing.
Well, if you didn't mean for it to be insulting, then please accept my apology. Now I feel badly. :(

The Praetorian
03-20-2006, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Would you be a dear and rehash, in your own words, the basics of Freud's and Jung's psychology, where they differ, and what their relationship was?
No, dude, I just made that shit up...

I know dick about psychology. :D

Napsterbater
03-20-2006, 09:59 PM
Very good! :)

Believe it or not, Prae, you are one of my favorite people on allForums.

old-reb
03-21-2006, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Very good! :)

Believe it or not, Prae, you are one of my favorite people on allForums.

What about old reb, am I one of your favorite people?

mad dog
03-21-2006, 08:22 AM
TRAVH IS # 1 and that can't be changed :)

Napsterbater
03-21-2006, 11:43 AM
What about old reb, am I one of your favorite people?

No. It is very hard to distinguish you from all the other hardline right wingers here. Post with more personality, and more attitude, and you too can be amongst the elite allForums cabal!

old-reb
03-21-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
No. It is very hard to distinguish you from all the other hardline right wingers here. Post with more personality, and more attitude, and you too can be amongst the elite allForums cabal!

Thanks now I have a goal to reach.

Napsterbater
03-21-2006, 12:00 PM
*claps hands*

The Praetorian
03-21-2006, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Very good! :)

Believe it or not, Prae, you are one of my favorite people on allForums.
And you, likewise.

It's fun to converse with people who occasionally make you laugh, and believe it or not, it's fun to be proven wrong (at least, for me it is...). I enjoy several people here. Brooks has an amazing dry wit. I'm an awe of FT's ability to articulate his thoughts, and Sedan is an excellent debater with a keen knowledge of politics and a level head (and that's despite him being a lefty, of course). I particularly find your ability to analyze things for what they're worth intriguing; and yes....you're good at reading character (even if it's through a computer monitor...).

Cheers, Naps! :)

Evakian
03-21-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
Brooks has an amazing dry wit. I'm an awe of FT's ability to articulate his thoughts, and Sedan is an excellent debater with a keen knowledge of politics and a level head

Very much so. :)

500lbguerilla
03-21-2006, 07:44 PM
And why am I not surprised that you have an autistic kid in one of your classes... ?

Am I to assume that was suppossed to be a jab?
If it was I will just assume you have a poor sense of humor...

Evakian
03-21-2006, 07:48 PM
I believe he thought you were a student in a class with special needs children, not that you are a teacher with a autistic student (if I am correct?). If not, then agreed, it was a pretty odd joke.

The Praetorian
03-22-2006, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
?

Am I to assume that was suppossed to be a jab?
If it was I will just assume you have a poor sense of humor...
Well being that I know so much about you (other than the fact that you smoke pot, have "lots of friends" who find the time to heckle cops and minutemen in Arizona, and are 25), silly me for thinking that you attend a class with a retard. If you are, in fact, a special needs "teacher", then I sincerely apologize. I simply wasn't aware of the fact that you told us your occupation. :rolleyes:

The Praetorian
03-22-2006, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Evakian
I believe he thought you were a student in a class with special needs children, not that you are a teacher with a autistic student (if I am correct?).
And if that is, indeed, the case, then my misunderstanding makes it even funnier yet.