Dutch consider burqa ban to Muslim dismay
By Alexandra Hudson
Tue Mar 7, 8:15 AM ET

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - If the Netherlands becomes the first European country to ban the burqa and other Muslim face veils this month, Hope says she'll resort to wearing a surgical mask to dress in accordance with her religious beliefs.

"I'll wear one of those things they wore during the SARS epidemic if I have to," said the Dutch-born Muslim, one of about 50 women in the Netherlands who wear the head-to-toe burqa or the niqab, a face veil that conceals everything but the eyes.

"I'm very practical," the 22-year-old added.

Last December, parliament voted to forbid women from wearing the burqa or any Muslim face coverings in public, justifying the move in part as a security measure.

The cabinet is awaiting the results of a study into the legality of such a ban under European human rights laws, before making its final decision. The results are expected in the second half of this month.

"This is an enormous victory for traditional Dutch decency," said Geert Wilders, the populist member of parliament who first proposed the burqa ban, after hearing parliament had backed it.

"The burqa is hostile to women, and medieval. For a woman to walk around on the streets completely covered is an insult to everyone who believes in equal rights."

The Dutch may have been among the first to legalize cannabis, prostitution and euthanasia -- earning them a reputation for tolerance -- but they are now in the process of imposing some of Europe's toughest entry and integration laws.

Rest of article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060307/lf_nm/religion_dutch_burqa_dc_1)

The Dutch have been busy banning all kinds of things this week.

It's not a good thing to ban a style of clothing.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
The Dutch have been busy banning all kinds of things this week. Yeah, when I saw the story about the Nazi helmets I just couldn't resist posting it.

I don't think this ban is a good idea either. In this country First Amendment advocates would be all over it, with good reason. However, wearing a burqa should restrict your freedom of movement. You certainly can't wear one inside a bank, for example.

Clothing styles should not be banned unless it's those stupid wooden shoes some Dutch wear.

The Burqa represents religious dominance of Muslim men over their women. If it is legal then their men can beat them for not wearing it. If it is illegal then Islamic law cannot subjugate women outside their home in a free country.

Also by allowing so many masked people who is to know who is man and who is woman and what lurks underneath all those clothes.

Originally posted by old-reb
Also by allowing so many masked people who is to know who is man and who is woman and what lurks underneath all those clothes.

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"?
:D

Originally posted by DrewM
It's not a good thing to ban a style of clothing.

Especially not one that is religiously motivated, in a country with freedom of religion.

Originally posted by Vilepagan
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"?
:D

The Shadow knows

Originally posted by old-reb
The Shadow knows

Michael Jackson?

Originally posted by Evakian
Michael Jackson?

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Originally posted by old-reb
The Burqa represents religious dominance of Muslim men over their women. If it is legal then their men can beat them for not wearing it. If it is illegal then Islamic law cannot subjugate women outside their home in a free country.

Also by allowing so many masked people who is to know who is man and who is woman and what lurks underneath all those clothes.

You think you know but you have no idea.

"Dutch to ban high-waters and crew cuts..."

Old Reb do you think you can you make yourself look like more of jack ass?

You have a point when it comes to theological countries. Other then that I've heard better reasoned arguments from 2nd graders on why they should get to eat dirt...

Originally posted by googs
You think you know but you have no idea.


Originally posted by old-reb
The Burqa represents religious dominance of Muslim men over their women. If it is legal then their men can beat them for not wearing it. If it is illegal then Islamic law cannot subjugate women outside their home in a free country.

Also by allowing so many masked people who is to know who is man and who is woman and what lurks underneath all those clothes.

You think you know but you have no idea.

Last edited by googs on 03-11-2006 at 06:01 PM


Follow Islamic dress code or die!


HALABJA, NORTHERN IRAQ – A radical Islamist group is growing and threatening the stability of the Kurdish region in northern Iraq.

The group – Ansar al-Islam – emerged just days before the Sept. 11 attacks on the US. It delivered a fatwa, or manifesto, to the citizens in mountain villages against "the blasphemous secularist, political, social, and cultural" society there, according to Kurdish party leaders.


Since, Ansar al-Islam has nearly doubled in size to 700, including Iraqis, Jordanians, Moroccans, Palestinians, and Afghans – a composition similar to the multinational Al Qaeda network. Villagers here claim it has ransacked and razed beauty salons, burned schools for girls, and murdered women in the streets for refusing to wear the burqa. It has seized a Taliban-style enclave of 4,000 civilians and several villages near the Iran border.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0315/p01s04-wome.html

Does that mean all Muslims force the great women of Islam to wear the buqra? It most defitnetly does not.

Thats in Iraq jackass. To claim the same thing could happen in the netherlands is just plain dumb.

"We're worried about men trying to control how you dress, so were going to control how you dress"

Jesus these people are stupid.

Here is one good use for the burqa.

10/28/05 Thailand Narathiwat, Islamic militants disguised as fully-veiled women shoot a local religious leader to death from the back of a motorcycle.

Originally posted by old-reb
Here is one good use for the burqa.

So a crime was committed with help from the burqa, does that mean we should outlaw them in Denmark (a country with freedom of religion) to avoid crime? Should we keep Middle-Eastern men off planes in America because of the 9/11 incident?
No and no.