Another example of Islamo Fascists terrorizing people who have different faith than theirs.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/03/07/national/national_20002142.php

Village Raid Leaves 3 Dead
30 men storm Pattani's Yaring district; 2 more killed nearby

More fear and chaos gripped Thailand's restive South yesterday as about 30 armed men raided a Buddhist village in Yaring district and torched two houses and shot dead three villagers, while in two other nearby districts two young men were shot dead at close range, police said.

Pol Colonel Sunthon Disyabutr, superintendent of Yaring district, said 50 police officers and two fire trucks were sent to Che Orh village, a small Buddhist community, where gunmen shot dead the three villagers.

The body of Sa-ngeam Kaeowprasert, 70, one of the three victims, was found riddled with bullets and burnt beyond recognition in his house, which was destroyed by fire early yesterday morning.

His wife, Thanom, appeared to have escaped the burning house but did not survive gunshot wounds.

The body of villager Somphit Putrarat, 35, was riddled with machine gun bullets. Authorities found his wife and four-year-old child weeping next to his body in the yard.

Sunthon blamed insurgents for the attacks, which he said was aimed at making the area ungovernable for the authorities and instigating sectarian violence in the region.

The late-night attack on the village community appeared to have marked a shift in strategy, from point-blank assassination to attacking soft targets in Buddhist communities, Sunthon said.

In the other incidents, gunmen shot dead a young man, Marading Mache, 25, in Khok Po district, while in Panare district, Kermor Yakoh, 49, was shot dead at dawn when out herding his cattle.

Meanwhile, in Nong Chik district's Tu Yong village, an elementary public school was torched but damage was minimum as residents quickly put out the fire.

In nearby Narathiwat, Deputy Governor Wichit Chartpaisit, provincial police commissioner Lt-General Yongyuth Charoenwanit and the deputy commander of the Army's Taskforce 3, Colonel Somphol Pankul, paraded 31 individuals who they claimed to have been "misguided" by insurgents bent on carving out a separate homeland for ethnic Malays in the three southernmost provinces.

The Nation

Pattani


Slim

:confused:

Barbarian pricks! They are murderous thugs, nothing more, to read something like this makes me so angry - they show no respect for human lifes. If they are fixed on the idea of armed rebellion, they should focus on government forces not innocent civilians!

Are you talking about Muslims? Cuz I didnt read anything about Muslims!

That one threw me too, but most Malays converted to Islam some time ago, and it stands to good reason that they would be Islamic, given the racial and cultural differences, and the crime committed.

So you're stereotyping? Generalizing?

ya, the greatest sin ever, pointing out the obvious. "we better search grandma O'malley for shoe bombs" Why do you and your buddies go so far out of your way to act stupid?

Originally posted by Travh20
Why do you and your buddies go so far out of your way to act stupid?

Trav, the title of this thread references "Islamo-fascists" and Slim's first post is an attempt to point the finger yet again at the hated enemy "Islamics". When you read the part of the article Slim quoted you come across this:

In nearby Narathiwat, Deputy Governor Wichit Chartpaisit, provincial police commissioner Lt-General Yongyuth Charoenwanit and the deputy commander of the Army's Taskforce 3, Colonel Somphol Pankul, paraded 31 individuals who they claimed to have been "misguided" by insurgents bent on carving out a separate homeland for ethnic Malays in the three southernmost provinces.(emphasis mine)

This post, and the motives of the "terrorists" apparently have little or nothing to do with Islam.
This is just another pathetic attempt by slim to spin the truth.

So you're stereotyping? Generalizing?

Neither. I am giving slim a little leeway instead of slamming him for yet another stupid factually-incorrect agenda-serving post.

This sort of shit happens all the time. It's only when Muslims do it now that people even bother to pull their heads out of their asses long enough to say idiotic, defamatory things.

Have you ever heard of the Southern Thai Insurgency in Pattanis Yaring district ......??

Pull your heads out of your asses.

Thai Militants Learn From Iraq Insurgency

By SHAUN WATERMAN
UPI Homeland and National Security Editor

WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 (UPI) -- Islamic separatists in violence-wracked southern Thailand have begun to employ weapons and tactics that appear to be imported from the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to analysts and experts.

One technique in particular, the use of a cement casing around a homemade bomb which both disguises it to look like a roadside marker and increases its lethality by creating razor sharp shards of concrete shrapnel, seems to have been imported directly from Iraq.

"That comes straight from Iraq -- or at least from the same training manuals they're using in Iraq," said Zachary Abuza, author of "Crucible of Terror" -- widely considered the definitive study of Islamic extremism in Southeast Asia. "Certainly, those kinds of tactics were never used in Thailand before."

Over the past year, the separatists have undergone "a remarkable transformation. It's unique ... I've never seen anything like it before in an insurgency," said defense analyst Jeff Moore who has written about the issue for Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Centre.

Moore told United Press International that during 2004 there were a half dozen raids and ambushes against Thai security forces and other targets, but in 2005, there were nearly 90.

"Almost overnight they went from a gang of saboteurs and assassins to a small army. A guerilla army, but an army nonetheless," he said.

During the same time frame, Thai security forces also noted "an increasing sophistication in the construction and use" of improvised explosive devices by the insurgents, Panitan Wattanayagorn told UPI.

Panitan, a visiting scholar at the School of Advanced International Studies, John Hopkins University, is a Thai academic and former security adviser in the prime minister's office. According to his biography, he continues to advise a number of Thai security agencies, including the country's army.

Panitan said the greater sophistication was notable in "more elaborate components" of some devices, and in the way they were deployed, including the increasing use of tactics such as chains of bombs blown up sequentially.

Abuza -- who is completing a book on the separatist insurgency, the latest phase of which has raged for nearly five years -- said there had also been an increase in the size of bombs.

"In the early stages of the insurgency, you would typically see 4-5 lb pipe-bomb devices. Last year we saw three or four 100 lb car bombs."

The number of attacks has also been increasing. Figures compiled by Jane's show that the number of bomb attacks last year -- nearly 20 a month, on average -- was more than three times that in 2004.

Jane's also noted a "clear diversification and advance in triggering techniques." Traditionally, the insurgents relied almost exclusively on timers made from cheap alarm clocks or "Walkman"-style tape recorders.

Time-bombs "are still occasionally used," says Jane's, but last year, "the weight of the (bombing) campaign has shifted decisively towards the use of mobile phones," which now account for as many as 95 per cent of bombings or attempted bombings.

"The ease with which explosions can be detonated, often in the line of sight to ensure they strike a specific target at a specific moment, has been a key factor in the growing number of casualties suffered by the security forces," says the publication.

Another factor driving the increasingly high casualty rate, says Moore, is the increasing sophistication of the tactics the separatists employ. One raid he analyzed, on the town of Yala in July 2005, involved more than 60 attackers in a sophisticated series of five simultaneous or sequential operations, including blowing up power lines; pinning down military units deployed there and covering their retreat with road spikes and fake bombs.

"It was a well-planned and executed military operation led by professionals, so it is likely that they rehearsed for it beforehand," Moore said.

Insurgents typically increase their capacity as they gain experience, but the speed of the Thai transformation -- especially their rapid adoption of infantry tactics -- is remarkable, Moore said.

Moore and Panitan both pointed to the Internet and the proliferation of Jihadi Web sites on it, as a possible source for some of this knowledge, especially about the construction of home-made bombs. Last year, Thai security forces raided a separatist safe house and found CDs and other training materials downloaded from the Web.

Moore said some of the jihadi sites are "virtual libraries" where would-be Jihadis can download everything they need from propaganda materials to bomb-making manuals.

"It's a starter kit," he said, "Almost a 'jihad in a box' if you like," but he added that the skills required for sophisticated ambush tactics cannot be effectively transferred in this fashion. "You cannot learn this stuff from the Internet ... Experienced or trained fighters taught them how to do this."

Moore, employing a college sporting metaphor, says the separatists seem to have "a bunch of ringers," a number of individuals who have clearly received training -- probably at camps in Afghanistan.

Thai intelligence believes that about 120 Islamic militants from Thailand passed through terrorist training camps run by al-Qaida and other extremist groups in Afghanistan prior to the United States toppling the Taliban regime there in late 2001.

"Some intelligence reports also suggest that there are individuals who provide (current) connectivity to foreign groups or training facilities," Panitan said, but added that there was no consensus on the question among the various security agencies operating in the south, where the insurgency has claimed more than a thousand lives.

Abuza and Panitan said that it is almost certain that at least some of the militants now active in the separatist insurgency have received training more recently, probably at camps in Indonesia or the Philippines.

"There are some individuals the authorities believe" have attended training camps in the region, said Panitan, adding that the porous southern border with Malaysia, and the existence of well-established smuggling and illegal migration routes to Indonesia makes it nearly impossible to track the movements of militants with any certainty.

"When they come back (from the camps), they change their names" he said of the militants, which adds to the difficulties that security forces have in assessing the levels of connectivity with overseas networks.

Some believe that militants may also have received training in Pakistan, through the network of madrassas or Islamic religious schools associated with the Kashmir-based jihadi networks, or with the Taliban.

"There are clear links with other regional extremist networks," Al Santoli, president of the Asia America Initiative, and a long-time observer of the region, told UPI.

But others are less certain. "It's too early to say for sure" what external links the various groups active in the insurgency might currently have, said Panitan.

That caution is echoed by a U.S. official at the embassy in Bangkok. The United States sees the insurgency as an "internal" issue, said the official, who asked for anonymity. "There is no clear evidence of direct foreign terrorist involvement."

The separatist insurgency in southern Thailand has deep and complex roots among the population there, which has strong ethnic and linguistic ties across the border into Malaysia, and which -- unlike the rest of the Thai population -- is majority Muslim.

Although the three-decade long struggle for independence was traditionally led by secular nationalists, analysts say that, since 2001, Islamic militants -- led in some cases by veterans of the Afghan jihad against the Soviets -- have played an increasingly important role in the conflict.



Slim

Like I said .....pull your heads out.

Four shot dead in Thailand’s restive south

By: (AFP), 6 March 2006

PATTANI, Thailand - A group of some 30 suspected Islamic militants on Monday stormed a Buddhist village in Thailand’s restive south, killing three people, while a Muslim man was shot dead in a separate attack, police said.

The heavily armed attackers, all dressed in black, broke into a Buddhist community in Pattani, one of three insurgency-plagued southern provinces, early Monday and gunned down an elderly Buddhist couple and their neighbor.

“It is clear that the attack was carried out by Muslim militants who want to inflict severe violence on Buddhists in the south,” Police Colonel Suthon Disyabutr of Pattani’s Yaring district police told AFP.

The militants burned the body of one of the victims and set ablaze an empty Buddhist house.

Separately, a gang of suspected Islamic militants on motorcycles shot a Muslim villager early Monday in Pattani, police said.

Some Muslims are targeted by Islamic insurgents because they are seen as collaborators with the Thai government.

Thailand’s south, where most of its minority Muslim population lives, has been hit by two years of unrest that has left more than 1,100 people dead in near-daily shootings, bombings and arson attacks.

Slim

Originally posted by slim
Have you ever heard of the Southern Thai Insurgency in Pattanis Yaring district ......??

Pull your heads out of your asses.


From the article you posted to prove your point.


That caution is echoed by a U.S. official at the embassy in Bangkok. The United States sees the insurgency as an "internal" issue, said the official, who asked for anonymity. "There is no clear evidence of direct foreign terrorist involvement."

The separatist insurgency in southern Thailand has deep and complex roots among the population there, which has strong ethnic and linguistic ties across the border into Malaysia, and which -- unlike the rest of the Thai population -- is majority Muslim.

Although the three-decade long struggle for independence was traditionally led by secular nationalists, analysts say that, since 2001, Islamic militants -- led in some cases by veterans of the Afghan jihad against the Soviets -- have played an increasingly important role in the conflict.


These people aren't fighting for Islam. They may be learning some tricks from the "Islamo-facists" as you like to call them, but that seems to be the gist of your article.

Originally posted by elp
Barbarian pricks! They are murderous thugs, nothing more, to read something like this makes me so angry - they show no respect for human lifes.

It's amazing to me that someone like Slim is so goddamned fretful and concerned over three people in Thailand getting killed because one religious group (if that's even what took place) disagreed with another group, when right here in his OWN country, the media outlets are rife with news stories of innocent men, women and children being persecuted, threatened and even killed EVERY DAY because some devout Christian decided their baby had been "possessed by Satan", or that their children needed to be starved to death, or because the doctors or nurses at some women's reproductive services clinic needed killing, or because some other denomination was worshipping their invisible friend in the "wrong" way.

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3 Children's Heads Bashed In = 2 Dead, 1 Crippled
Tyler, Texas
Orange County Register, March 30, 2004, page: News 10 & other sources

God told Deanna Laney, the 39 year old mother of three boys, to kill her sons by bashing their brains in with a large rock. Her defense attorney pointed out that "The dilemma she faced is a terrible one for a mother," Files told the jury. "Does she follow what she believes to be God's will, or does she turn her back on God?" Joshua, 8, and Luke, 6, died, while younger brother Aaron, 14 months old, suffered serious brain injury. Laney believed God had told her the world was going to end and "she had to get her house in order," which included killing her children, who would then shortly be resurrected. The "deeply religious East Texas woman", was a choir member, vocalist, and volunteer worker at the 250 member First Assembly of God in Tyler, who home-schooled her children in New Chapel Hill. She killed her children on Mother's Day weekend in 2003. Deanna Laney said her 6 year old son Luke was lying on his back, his head against a rock, as she stood over him and hammered a sandstone the size of a dinner plate into his skull several times. "He kept gurgling," she said. "He kept breathing and I knew he had to die. So I got this rock and I put it over his chest and I held it over his chest."

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God Tells Man to Kill Parents
Chattanooga, Teennessee, USA
L.A. Times, 10/11/05 p. A-12

Philip Badowski (23) got a call from God. God told him to shoot his parents and then use a chain saw to slice and dice them up.........which he did.

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Christian Mother Cuts Off Daughter's Arms
Dallas, Texas (where else?), USA
L.A. Times, OC Edition, 11/24/04

Dena Schlosser, 35, chopped the arms off her eleven month old daughter Margaret. She calmly cut her baby's arms off while listening to Christian hymns playing on her stereo. When police arrived, the devout Christian was sitting in her living room, holding a knife and drenched in blood with the church music still playing. Her baby was in the bedroom, armless and bleeding to death. She later died at the hospital. Her husband John told police that the night before she had said she wanted to "give her children to God" because that's what the Bible said to do. They attended the "Water of Life Church" in Plano, Texas, where the preacher Mr. Davidson teaches that doctors aren't necessary because people can be healed if their faith is "in the right place."

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Four Kids Starved to Death

October 2003, New Jersey

A "deeply religious" family starved four of their adopted children to death. The four used to be taken to church regularly by their loving Christian parents. The eldest child- 19 years old- weighed around 50 pounds. The parents had locked the adopted kids out of the kitchen, though fed their biological kids just fine. When the parents were released on bail, their fellow church members at the "Come Alive New Testament Church" cheered them like they were heroes. Not one of their fellow Christians appeared to see anything wrong in starving four kids to death.
Orange County Register, Oct 29, 2003 p. News 17

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Beating a Boy Senseless for Jesus
July 2002, Austin, Texas

An eleven year old boy was caught cheating on a Bible test in church. As punishment, Pastor Joshua Thompson, of Capitol City Baptist Church, and the Pastor's brother, beat the boy with a stick for over an hour. They beat him so much the boy's kidneys failed, and he ended up in the hospital in fair condition. Evidently they were giving the boy a taste of that "old time religion".

(L.A. Times, Orange County Edition, July 10, 2002 p. A-10)

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Alisa Izquierdo, age 6
Cause of Death: Christianity, and its belief in demons and a Satan.
November, 1995 New York City, NY

Alisa Izquierdo, age 6, was TORTURED TO DEATH by her mother who thought the little girl was POSSESSED BY THE DEVIL.

"Alisa's body displayed a road map of pain so frightful that the paramedics who tried to revive her needed counseling. Dozens of small bruises and apparent cigarette burns dotted her skin. A BONE was protruding from her right pinky, one of SEVERAL broken fingers...Police believe the other used the child's head to clean the floor on Halloween...But when Awilda Lopez looked at her third-oldest daughter, SHE SAW SATAN, police said. 'SHE'S SHOWING NO EMOTION BECAUSE SHE BELIEVES SHE DID THE RIGHT THING,' Lt. Luis Ganzales said. 'She believes her daughter was possessed by the devil.' Lopez admitted that SHE SMASHED THE FIRST-GRADER'S HEAD AGAINST A CEMENT WALL MONDAY, police said."

(The Orange County Register, Nov. 25, 1995, p. A-29)

NOTE: The mother showed no emotion because, as a Bible-believing Christian, she feels she did the right thing. She smashed the little kid's brains out against a cement wall, and was happy and "blessed" in doing it, as her CHRISTIAN Bible says in the Psalms:

How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock. (Psalms 137:9, NASB)

http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/cults/victims_of_religion.htm

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Garsh.......all the religious violence and murderous lunacy being commited over where those crazy Muslims live SURE is frightening!.....thank goodness things like that do not happen in America...........

How do you stop cathloic priests from molesting little children?

Originally posted by googs
How do you stop catholic priests from molesting little children?

You can't stop it....but it seems there are those who hope that they CAN direct attention AWAY FROM the barbaric and inhuman religion that is predominant in THIS country by incessantly posting obscure news stories from other countries with the intent of making people come to think--

--"Eww, look at those violent Muslim crazies over there....have you ever seen such destructive religious fanatacism?!?!"

The difference between the examples Freethinker(BadActor) gives .............and ...........the insurgencies of the Islamo Fascists are perpetrating on every religion in almost every region around the world .......is ...........those crimes that he suggests are only acts performed by insane or Christian extremists .....are not performed to terrorize the communities they live in .....nor are they to spread their beliefs around the globe by forcing their ideals upon others.

Those crimes are performed (if indeed they are true ....cuzzzzz ...I don't see any references) are only to hold themselves and their families hostage ....even though how gross the crimes may seem.

In each of his cases ......those perpetrating the act were also prosecuted for their crimes .......and ...........so must the Islamo Fascists be prosecuted (and they will be .....don't fail to know this)........in spite of the liberal leftist socialista's trying to justify the acts.


Slim

Originally posted by slim
The difference between the examples Freethinker(BadActor) gives and the insurgencies of the Islamo Fascists are perpetrating on every religion in almost every region around the world is those crimes that he suggests are only acts performed by insane or Christian extremists .....

If you get to decide that every Xtian in this country who decides his gawd has told him to murder his kids or his parents is "just an extreme element", the why don't you extend the SAME sort of thinking to the Muslims who perpetrated the acts that you're linking to????.......

....maybe those are simply the few "extremists" (to use your term) in that religion.



Originally posted by slim
Those crimes are performed (if indeed they are true ....cuzzzzz ...I don't see any references) ......

You are truly a dimwitted person if you did not see the reference to the journalistic source for EVERY monstrous, religiously motivated (IOW, carried out by devout Bible-believers) attrocity that was reported on.

Originally posted by slim
so must the Islamo Fascists be prosecuted (and they will be .....don't fail to know this)........in spite of the liberal leftist socialista's trying to justify the acts.

I am not aware of anyone ---'liberal leftist socialista" or NOT liberal or leftist-- who has **tried to justify** the acts you are refering to.

You are trying to justify Islamo Fascist acts ....and .......then say (in the same thread I might add) .....that you are not trying to justify the acts........*L*.

You are too funny.


Slim

No slim, FT just isn't playing into your "Islam is a pox on the land and needs to be eliminated" propaganda move.

Until you can realise that, nobody but Decka and Darth will ever take you seriously.

Originally posted by slim
You are trying to justify Islamo Fascist acts ....

I'll play, Slim.

Please show me where something I have said here was an attempt to ""justify"" the murders in Thailand that you are refering to.

Originally posted by googs
How do you stop cathloic priests from molesting little children?
Dress them like nuns.

Originally posted by slim
The difference between the examples Freethinker(BadActor) gives .............and ...........the insurgencies of the Islamo Fascists are perpetrating on every religion in almost every region around the world .......is ...........those crimes that he suggests are only acts performed by insane or Christian extremists .....are not performed to terrorize the communities they live in .....nor are they to spread their beliefs around the globe by forcing their ideals upon others.

Slim, the incident reported on in the articles you posted, refers to a group that is apparently fighting for independence. Despite your pathetic attempts to portray them as Islamic terrorists bent on world domination, that's all they are.


Those crimes are performed (if indeed they are true ....cuzzzzz ...I don't see any references) are only to hold themselves and their families hostage ....even though how gross the crimes may seem.

I've often wondered why you frequently insert a paragraph of complete gibberish into the middle of your posts. Is there a purpose or is it unintentional on your part?


In each of his cases ......those perpetrating the act were also prosecuted for their crimes .......and ...........so must the Islamo Fascists be prosecuted (and they will be .....don't fail to know this)........

Way to state the obvious.


in spite of the liberal leftist socialista's trying to justify the acts.

How can you not be aware just how idiotic you look when you post stuff like this?

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Dress them like nuns.

The kids, or the priests? :D

Slim;

I'm still waiting for you to show me where something I said was an attempt to ""justify"" the murders (in Thailand) that you were refering to.

Thanks.

...Islamic terrorists bent on world domination...

Replete with skinny, bristly white cats to stroke and ponder over!