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slim
03-08-2006, 08:57 AM
Seems like the Islamo Fascists won't stop till they eliminate all non-believers. There seems to still be room for those good Muslims to yet speak out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060308/ap_on_re_as/india_explosions_15

Death Toll in India Bombings Reach 20

By: RAJESH KUMAR SINGH, Associated Press Writer

VARANASI, India - Security forces deployed to holy sites across India on Wednesday after terror bombings killed 20 people in Hinduism's holiest city, sparking anger among its residents and concern of possible widespread sectarian violence.

A mob of angry Hindus briefly blocked the motorcade of Mulayam Singh Yadav, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh state, when he visited the scene of Tuesday's bombings at a crowded railway station and temple in the northern city of Varanasi on the holy Ganges River.

Yadav, whose party champions the cause of Muslims and lower-caste Hindus, inspected the site under heavy protection while protesters shouted slogans against him.

Varanasi, meanwhile, was largely shut down by a strike called by Hindu nationalist groups to protest the bombings. Markets and schools were closed and vehicles kept off the roads, but there were no signs of violence in reaction to the attacks.

"There is peace now but what happened yesterday is horrible," said Jugal Kishore Chaurasiya, a local grocer. "There is fear but I am proud that even after this act of terrorism there has been amity between the two sides. We are trying to maintain peace."

At least two blasts went off Tuesday evening at Varanasi's train station, and another blast shook a temple on the banks of the Ganges, where millions of pilgrims gather annually for ritual bathing and prayers. Police said they found other unexploded bombs elsewhere in the city.

At least 10 people died in the explosions at the train station, and five were killed in the blast at the temple, said Alok Sinha, the top home ministry official of Uttar Pradesh state. Five people died overnight in hospitals, local superintendent of police Paresh Pandey said.

He said 58 people were hospitalized, 35 of them in serious condition.

"It is a terrorist attack. It has all the characteristics of a terrorist attack," Sinha told The Associated Press. "We are not sure about the group involved."

Yashpal Singh, the Uttar Pradesh police chief, said the attackers targeted the temple on a day when special prayers are held to cause maximum damage.

"The bomb was placed near a tree where women usually sit and take rest," Singh said. "Moreover, a wedding was just over when the blast took place. Had the blast taken place a few minutes earlier, the toll could have been more."

Cities across India were on high alert Wednesday, and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh appealed for calm.

Soldiers and police were sent to guard prominent religious pilgrimage spots across this country of 1 billion people, which is about 84 percent Hindu but which also has a sizable Muslim minority and millions of followers of many other religions.

Although officials have not yet said who they believed was behind Tuesday's attacks, many in India clearly suspected Muslim extremists.

Hours after the bombings, the Uttar Pradesh state anti-terrorist squad said it had killed a suspected Islamic militant, but Pandey said it was not known whether he was linked to the bombings.

In the capital New Delhi, police also shot two suspected militants as they were entering the city in a car early Wednesday, said Karnal Singh, joint commissioner of police. It was also unclear if they were tied to the Varanasi attacks.

L. K. Advani, leader of the opposition in India's Parliament, said he told
President Bush during his visit to India last week that terrorism continued to be a problem in India.

"People of India will not feel assured until the terrorist infrastructure across the border (in Pakistan) is fully dismantled," Advani said.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry denied Advani's charge.

"There is no infrastructure of terrorism in Pakistan. This is a baseless allegation," ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

The attacks came only days after Hindus and Muslims fought street battles in two neighborhoods in the capital of Uttar Pradesh, Lucknow, leaving four people dead. The next day, angry Hindus looted Muslim shops and burned vehicles in the coastal resort of Goa in a dispute over a mosque demolition.

Home Secretary V.K. Duggal said Tuesday's blasts were similar to Oct. 29 bombings in New Delhi that killed 60 people. Like those blasts, blamed on Islamic militants fighting to wrest predominantly Muslim
Kashmir from India, the Varanasi explosions occurred within 10 minutes of each other, Duggal said, according to the Press Trust of India news agency.

Varanasi, 450 miles east of Delhi, is Hinduism's holiest city and ordinarily is filled with pilgrims visiting temples and bathing in the holy waters of the Ganges, which runs through the city. It also is a popular spot with foreign tourists.


Slim

Freethinker
03-08-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by slim
Seems like the Islamo Fascists won't stop .....

BWAAAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaHAHAHAAAaaaaa!!!

The term **Islamo-Fascists** gets my vote as the most idiotic, meaningless oxymoron of all time.

Islam is a religion. A religion that --by and large-- promotes the universal virtues of brotherhood, justice, peace and tolerance. Islam is a religion that is stands in stark opposition to things like rampant consumerism and greed.

Fascism, on the other hand, is a socio/political construct that is dedicated to values that are the virtual opposite of those of Islam.

Fascism is --in essense-- a type of political arrangement wherein the State and the Corporate sector are active partners in arranging and controlling the society.

Fascism is exemplfied by, among other things, ... 1) a powerful and continuing nationalism.

Fascism is exemplfied by ...2) a fanatical concern with the supremacy of the military.

Fascism is exemplfied by ...3) Corporate power being consistently protected and enhanced.

Fascism is exemplfied by ...4) rampant cronyism and corruption.

The religion of Islam and its adherants, no matter if it is the fanatical elements or the most peace-loving elements we are talking about, would be decicated to the ideal that neither nationalism NOR the supremacy of the military NOR the protection of Corporate power NOR cronyism and corruption have any significance or place in a world where devotion to one's god is to be of utmost importance.

You've been listening to Michael Savage WAAAY too much if you imagine the preposterous term *Islamo-fascist* has any rational meaning.

elp
03-09-2006, 04:17 AM
But islamic fundamentalism is a totalitarian ideology, as is fascism. Perhaps that was the point slim was trying to make?

Freethinker
03-09-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by elp
But islamic fundamentalism is a totalitarian ideology, as is fascism. Perhaps that was the point slim was trying to make?

That's true. You have a valid point there.

But we have to be careful to make distinctions.........Slim would no doubt just as quickly apply the *Islamo-Fascist* appellation to Iraq as he would Iran.

The government of Iran --it is true-- is run by religious fantatics with a decidely totalitarian ideology. But not every state in the Middle East [Iraq being a perfect example] is or was controlled by that type of fundamentalist, religious totalitarianist.

I guess I just object to using *fascim* because of the strong connotations and connection to Corportism that, for me, the term "fascism" invokes.

In speaking of those states run by rigidly dogmatic Islamist fundamentalists , the term *totalitarianist* fits............*fascist* does not.

The type of religious fundamentalists we are talking about (example: Ayatollah Ali Khamenei of Iran) , even though he IS a totalitarianist, could be said to represent a viewpoint antithetical to the kind of rampant Corporatism and consumerism that is inherant in the brand of fascism that holds sway in America at present (IOW, the currect brand of 'conservatism' that runs the country)

slim
03-09-2006, 11:43 AM
You really have to be freethinking ...........to equate a corporation to fascism .....*L*.

What wavelength are you receiving anyway .....??


Slim