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old-reb
03-07-2006, 07:46 AM
On November 11, the WTO's ruling general council voted to grant Saudi Arabia entry into the prestigious group, which aims to promote international free trade, after it agreed to scrap restrictions on doing business with Israel.

"We've received assurances from Saudi Arabia," Portman said in separate testimony before the US House of Representatives' Ways and Means Committee. "They will abide by their WTO commitments."
Nonetheless, the Post has found, Saudi customs officials continue to enforce the boycott, asserting that no Israeli-made goods be allowed into the country.


"Absolutely not - if it is from Israel it is not allowed," Hamad Abdul Aziz of the Saudi Customs Department at Jidda's Islamic seaport said by phone. "I checked with my manager, and he said it is completely forbidden."

Similarly, a Saudi customs official at King Abdul Aziz Airport outside Jidda also said that Israeli goods were not allowed into the kingdom. "It is prohibited," he said. "It is not allowed to bring any goods made in Israel, whether the whole item or only part of it was made there. That is the rule."

In December, just weeks after being allowed into the WTO, Saudi officials were quoted in the Arab press as insisting that the boycott of Israel would continue. This has raised concerns in Washington that the Saudis are not planning to live up to their commitment.


Taqiya & Kitman
Sam Spade - USA
Now we see the koranic concepts of Taqiya & Kitman at play: They can lie to infidels all they want, they can make all kinds of promises to all kinds of infidels and then abrogate at will, and it's all because the koran allows, even compels, them to do so.

newdsagent3
03-08-2006, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by old-reb


I don't think we should trust 'em with our ports - even if Saudi Arabia is not part of the UAE.

old-reb
03-08-2006, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by newdsagent3
I don't think we should trust 'em with our ports - even if Saudi Arabia is not part of the UAE.

I agree with you there. I know that we are pals with UAE and Saudia Arabia but I think 5 of the 9/11 bombers was from Saudia Arabia and 2 were from UAE.

We have been assured that our ports will be safe under UAE company but how can I know that? How can I know that a small change in contract from UAW might put us at their mercy? I don't want to worry about another 9/11 or something bigger than 9/11.

Who knows what they will be planning next. Even Bush never saw 9/11 coming.

newdsagent3
03-08-2006, 08:03 AM
A funny thing just happened to my conputer when I went to Ecarta online and looked up Quran. My computer froze! I couldn't get the sites off my screen.
That's was scary! Nevertheless all true Muslims follow the Quran and I wanted to check out what it says - guess I'll have to go to the library.

mad dog
03-08-2006, 08:10 AM
uh oh you're in trouble now see you in a few months

old-reb
03-08-2006, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by newdsagent3
A funny thing just happened to my conputer when I went to Ecarta online and looked up Quran. My computer froze! I couldn't get the sites off my screen.
That's was scary! Nevertheless all true Muslims follow the Quran and I wanted to check out what it says - guess I'll have to go to the library.

Here is an excellent copy of the Koran with index and search function.


http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

newdsagent3
03-08-2006, 04:44 PM
Thanks Old Reb - I'll check it out.

old-reb
03-08-2006, 05:52 PM
Click here for Taqiya & Kitman (http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp)

newdsagent3
03-09-2006, 05:33 AM
covert deception?

old-reb
03-09-2006, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by newdsagent3
covert deception?

Yes,

In the main article of this thread, Saudia Arabia made a treaty to not ban any goods from any country in order that they may get into the WTO. Well that treaty and the breaking of it is an example of Kitman.


In state-to-state relations Al-taqiyya political version is known as Kitman. Politically it means to project whatever image is necessary and advantageous in order to gain concessions from an adversary. The accepted principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in the sphere of international politics. The usual method of civilized diplomacy and negotiations might normally culminate in state treaties or other articles of agreement, but must be based on honesty, trust, and honored by both parties. But this principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam implies that true lasting negotiated settlements may not be possible, as Muslims today seem to be taking ever greater liberty in expanding the parameters and scope of circumstances under which they are permitted to lie or use deceptive tactics.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/VernonRichards41015p3.htm

newdsagent3
03-09-2006, 10:13 AM
I put it in favorites - thanks!

googs
03-09-2006, 11:03 PM
Old-reb are you accusing Saudia Arabia of being a terrorist country?

old-reb
03-10-2006, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by googs
Old-reb are you accusing Saudia Arabia of being a terrorist country?



The Saudia government is fighting terrorism and terrorism is fighting the Saudia Government.

I am accusing the Saudia government of being racist against Israeli and of lying in a treaty that they had no intention of abiding.