A pretty good race to start off the season, even if all the mist and fog made it hard to see the cars!
Good to see Junior back on track, and as for "elder statesman", "mellowed out" Tony Stewart, he's back to his bad -boy ways, wrecking people and sending them spinning into the grass for bothering him.
He MUST be a relative!
Go Tony go.

Interestingly, Tony Stewart and Matt Kenseth are both scheduled to race at Madison International Speedway in June. It will be interesting to see what develops between those two away from the watchful eyes of NASCAR.

I find those races to be boring as hell. Sure there is a flip every now and then but every time I switch the channel to the race I missed it...it's no fun

What in God's name is the point of Nascar? so boring I could fall asleep watching that, its a pointless sport if its even cosidered one...lol did anyone see that dude in a racecar get blasted Dana something very nasty :hitout: it was K.O!!!


I can only see hicks watching Nascar:drinktoth

I can only see hicks watching Nascar:drinktoth

You are shorely right.
We like to throw beer cans, chittlins, and grenades at the tee -vee when our drivers done don't do good...and it's loads a fun settin fires when drivers we hate cause acci-dents.

You are shorely missin out on a lot a fun.

I'm not a hick, and I love nascar. As a matter a fact, im far from hick status, but oh well, everyone has their own opinions. Any other Nascar fans see what Jr's going to do this weekend with a tribute to his dad, it's going to be pretty awesome!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/team12/banner_tristanisolde.gif (http://tristanandisolde.fromthefan.com/?L2696)
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Talladega is one of my favorite tracks. I love the racing there..Jr's gonna be driving a black number 8 in honor of his Dad, and DEI driver Truex will be in black too. Hoping they both do well..Jr's on my fantasy team...he's up, he's down...Elliot Sadler has the pole but I don't imgaine he'll do so good at this plate race, but anything can happen and will... A TON o' accidents, prob red flags galore.....can't wait!!

Kyle Busch must die......

Dear Kyle,
Thanks a lot, you silly twit, for causing a massive accident at Talladega today and taking out 2 of my drivers before 10 laps were even completed.
You sorry nincompoop, I hope Tony catches up with you in the garage and pounds your skinny be-hind into the pavement. But not before he dunks your ugly mug into a vat of antifreeze. It would only improve your looks, you rat-faced ninny.

Your friend,
Rendova

Formula One is auto racing. NASCAR is just a bunch of people driving around in a circle. Turn the steering wheel to the left and put your foot on the gas.

Boooooooring.

Well, not today it wasn't. Just ask Kyle--oops, you can't.
He is unfortunately deceased...
I like F1 but can't watch many races--never seems to be on tv.

Who is your money for next week Rendova ???

Ive picked Mark Martin....

Juan Pablo Montoya.



Oooops! Wrong race.

Who is your money for next week Rendova ???

Ive picked Mark Martin....

Mark Martin is Mr Money in the Bank!
So consistent--this is his last year of racing...usually finishes in the top 10 at about every track---I will really miss him----he's such a gentleman, on and off the track---night race at Richmond on Sat--yeehah! He should do well there.

Reading this series of posts between Red and rendova is like listening to my son-in-law. He is a NASCAR fanatic. He has an entire room just for his NASCAR memorabilia. He even has a tire from one of Mark Martin's cars. For his last birthday he got one of those fantasy NASCAR gifts from my daughter. He got to race with a real driver and then got to race around the track at 200 MPH. He is still talking about it almost a year later.

Wow....where did he get the tire, Frogger?

I just have a Tony lunch-box, and an autograph from when he appeared at a local dirt-track. My husband has Jeff Gordon shirts and hats and license plates...
My Dad was a big collector of Indy stuff and had a Mario autographed flag, and once got to ride in the pace car at the 500...didn't Juan Montoya win the 500 a few years ago?

I have no idea but he has it mounted on a stand like some sort of holy icon.

LOL, a real fan!
PS Juan Montoya won the 500 in 2000, driving for Chip Ganassi.
We would welcome him back any old time.

Id be more into rally cars myself,more skilled needed I think,sorry guys.

Id be more into rally cars myself,more skilled needed I think,sorry guys.

Now you're talking.

Hey Rendova........

Who do u think i should put my money on for this week ??

Dale JR has gone already and i have 6 people to pick before me,,,,,so a few names would be great :D Pleaseeeeeeeee

hmmmm-Darlington--the Lady in Black-----

Kevin Harvick is on a roll....maybe a Roush driver, or Hendrick--not Jeffy---he's just turning laps now--then there's Kasey Kahne.

You just can't go wrong with Tony tho. :)

Hey Rendova........

Who do u think i should put my money on for this week ??


Why would you watch NASCAR when you can watch the British Touring Car Championship?

Why would you watch NASCAR when you can watch the British Touring Car Championship?


LOL........I dont watch it :p its just a bunch of cars turnin left all the time,,,,:lolhit:

I belong to another forum where im the only English in a gang of Southerners who eat sleep and breath Nascar,,,we have a bit of a competition going on,,,so i need all the help i can get ,,,,im currently 2nd to last....:rolleyes:

Ive only ever seen one Nascar ride,,,,if we do get it on our TV,,,i cant find it.....

I just like to join things,lol

American sport,is just that,American sport,only yanks understand what the hells going on..

American sport,is just that,American sport,only yanks understand what the hells going on..

lol

What sport do you like? Football, soccer, hurling?

Yea all them

Yeah!! A Nascar thread!

I started watching Nascar at the beginning of last season and am totally hooked!

Hey L, who's your favorite driver?
I love Tony. Isn't he a cutie? (see avatar) :)
Also he's a hometown boy and not boring.

Tony's not normally one of my favorites, but I think he looks absolutely hot in your avatar pic! And I have to admit he is one heck of a driver and he does always make for some good entertainment!

My favorite is Jimmie Johnson.

lol

What sport do you like? Football, soccer, hurling?

I haven't hurled since I gave up drinking.:rolleyes:

lol

What sport do you like? Football, soccer, hurling?
All three,but im really shit at hurling,tho I do watchit

Speaking of Juan Montoya, he'll be driving the #42 Texaco car for Chip Ganassi next year.
He'll be an exciting new addition to the Nextel Cup Family...good luck to Juan.

Ren,he should of stuck to F1,real racing.

Ren,he should of stuck to F1,real racing.

There's no racing in F1. There's not even any passing.

No racing in Formul One. You're kidding, right, Lionel. Left turns, right turns, chicanes, straightaways, changing leads. F1 is real racing. NASCAR is a bunch of moonshiners turning left on an oval track.

Rendova,

Montoya is returning to NASCAR because he couldn't cut it in Formula One. He has sucked for two years now and he is the one who caused the pileup at the Brickyard when he ran into his own teamate and knocked both cars out of the race. It was either race in NASCAR or not race at all next year.

Frogger, be nice to Juan or I'll throw a beer can at you.

So he did cause a wreck. He's not the only driver who's ever done that. Maybe he got tired of always losing to Michael Schumacher. The same guy wins in F-1 all the time. Booo-ring and not good for the sport.

We'll see how good Juan really is when he does his first plate race at Talladega. Now there's racing for REAL men!!!!!!!

Schumacher no longer dominates F1. He didn't come in first last year and he is 19 points behind this year. He is still the best race car driver who ever got behind the wheel.

NASCAR is for rowdy rednecks with missing teeth and first cousins for spouses.

PS Speaking of Michael Schumacher, he made a very ungracious comment about being the 5th winner at the F-1 race at the Speed Palace.
He said it meant nothing.

Well, Michael, it meant nothing to us Hoosier race fans either.

Hold on there Frogger, let me put my dentures in before I reply......

Heh, at least we don't bring our NANNIES and stock brokers to the F-1 race that we snooze through after being up all night hob nobbing with the hoi-polloi.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

He is still the best race car driver who ever got behind the wheel.



I would nominate Jim Clark for that award. He was everything a driver should be, and a polite gentleman too. He died much too soon.

The speeds are faster, the drivers better, the tracks more interesting, the circuit is worldwide. F1 has NASCAR beat seven ways to Sunday.

Best Driver:Colm McCrea,but hes a rally driver,now that is top driving.

I wonder why Schumacher doesn't race NASCAR?

Just one race--he could get out of his contract, I'm sure, for just ONE race, and I'm sure some dolt NASCAR team owner would give him a ride....he must be afraid that he's scratch his pretty car and maybe have to race or pass somebody...c'mon Mikey, show us you're a real man and not a sissyboy and race Tony or the Bif dude sometime.......:D

just heard the laughable news that IRL "star" Danica Patrick is searching for a ride in NASCAR next year.

Her contract with Rahal-Letterman will expire this year and it's doubtful it's renewed as this is a "race car driver" who always ends up exactly where she qualifies...she does not pass or race anyone.

I have disliked this woman from the moment she showed up at the Brickyard a few years ago and declared in a snit..."I wanted the pole"..

Well, you dolt, they don't give you the pole, you have to earn it, you idiot.

Now she'll say..."I want a ride with Hendrick or Roush! I want Junior's car!!""

In your dreams, "lady." And good luck finding anyone to draft with you---you have to treat your competitors a little nicer than you have.

Michael 'Schumi' Schumacher has earned more than $200,000,000 in his career. The only other athletes in that class are Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. Jordan is out of the game so Woods and Schumacher are the two premier athletes in the world.

Why on earth would he want to drive in a toy car around an oval track?

Haha, I KNEW it--he IS afraid!
Mikey's afraid of Tony, Mikey's afraid of Tony, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah!!!!!!

Us NASCAR fans are real mature too, as well as being barbarians.......

PS. Not all NASCAR tracks are ovals. Some are tri-ovals , some are road coarses, some are very small short- tracks only one-half mile in length. Martinsville is shaped like a paper clip. And of course, the premier track, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, aka the Speed Palace, is almost rectangular.

No racing in Formul One. You're kidding, right, Lionel. Left turns, right turns, chicanes, straightaways, changing leads.

I like all of that. But I completely disagree about changing leads. F1 could be cool, but instead it's just watching a bunch of insanely expensive cars, only about four of which actually have a chance to win, parade around.

Personally, I like the Speed GT and Touring Car races.

Best Driver:Colm McCrea,but hes a rally driver,now that is top driving.

Now you're talking.

PS. Not all NASCAR tracks are ovals. Some are tri-ovals , some are road coarses, some are very small short- tracks only one-half mile in length. Martinsville is shaped like a paper clip. And of course, the premier track, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, aka the Speed Palace, is almost rectangular.

That doesn't make it any more interesting.

rendova,

I just emailed Schumi with your comments and he said he is going to send some large women from the former East Germany to Indiana to, as he put it, "kick that NASCAR Frau's butt."

That doesn't make it any more interesting.


This is true to a non fan.
Just think, some people think the Tour de France is thrilling.
Yep, BIKE riding.

To each is own.

Now, gotta get my arsenal of beer cans/bottles/ grenades ready for Sunday's race at New Hampshire.

rendova,

I just emailed Schumi with your comments and he said he is going to send some large women from the former East Germany to Indiana to, as he put it, "kick that NASCAR Frau's butt."

She can have a nice talk with hubby Bubba, who's also my brother.

I think America wants to start building good sports cars first Ren,know what I mean.

Bubba is NOT your brother, ren. He is your first cousin. Stop lying.

He could be both.

This is true to a non fan.

I love auto racing. I just don't particularly enjoy watching them drive in circles. For the record, I feel the same way about IRL.

Just think, some people think the Tour de France is thrilling.
Yep, BIKE riding.


It's not thrilling, but I watch it every day. :)

I think America wants to start building good sports cars first Ren,know what I mean.

By my count, we have three, none of which are affordable by your average person. Our main problem is that we don't build any good sport compacts, sport sedans, sport coupes, etc.

It'd be nice if more NASCAR or IRL tracks had more twists and turns, but then again, this would make it harder for the fans to watch and also harder for the race to be televised.

An oval track is easier for fans and tv cameras to keep track of all that's going on, and, at Bristol, all the seats have a view of the entire track.
Which is why tickets are harder to get for this track than any place else!

NASCAR, like all sports governing bodies, is out for the all mighty dollar first and foremost--television revenue.

It would be nice if NASCAR joined the 21st century. Pushrod V-8s featuring carburetors, with or without the dastardly choking plates, is old time stuff. The same goes for the rest of the drivetrain & suspension. I'm not suggesting that they go as far as the twitchy exoitics of F-1, but other than cosmetics, you just can't go to the dealership & buy what you watch on Sunday like you could years ago.

Speaking of the good old days and regular guys working on their own cars and then driving them themselves, I fondly recall many a fun Sunday afternoon or Saturday night watching my Dad's brother race his own Ford at local tracks against other regular joes. This was real racing and a lot of fun for both the drivers and the fans....you could always spot Uncle's car because of the beer can welded to the roof. He's also do Demolition Derby--I've always wanted to try that myself!

Uncle won a few races and once a big one up in Michigan and $25, 000---but then along came kids, marriage, responsibilty, and no sponsor, so it was back to the steel mills for Uncle.

but other than cosmetics, you just can't go to the dealership & buy what you watch on Sunday like you could years ago.

When did that happen? I used to watch NASCAR a little when I was a kid and back then they were all driving cars that actually came off the assembly line at one point. Then I lost interest. When NASCAR reappared on my radar screen suddenly they were plastic cars with no semblance to anything you could actually purchase.

I'm not sure when it actually took place. I too lost sight of NASCAR for many years.

Microprocessors happened. Fuel injection became a reality. The mandated 55 mph speed limit and demands for increased fuel efficiency happened. The big V8's were replaced by V6's and even 4's. What was coming from the Big 3 & hitting the sales floor was no longer suitable for racing.

I'm shooting from the hip here, but that's MHO.

Watched a bit of NASCAR on TV today,from Chicagoland Speedway,I think,couldnt stick it more than 5 mins.As for 55mph,what a joke.

The 55 mph speed limit was imposed on a national level during the Carter administration in response to the (then) fuel crisis. It was a joke then, but made some communities a ton of money as their kops took full advantage of it. Thankfully, it's history.

The only interesting NASCAR racing is watching Bombers on a dirt track or a short oval. All the rest is boooooooring.

Do they do rallying in America,it is the best of them all.

You fellas missed a great finish at Chicagoland, when Jeff Gordon spun out Matt Kenseth for the lead--a bit of a payback for Bristol earlier this year.

To me, that's what makes these races interesting--the feuds and paybacks, and the best racing comes within the last 50 laps or so, when the guys go all out.

Yes, there's rallying here, paul--- very popular, but not on tv much that I know of.

Do they do rallying in America,it is the best of them all.

Yes, but it's at the amateur club level, not the big buck FIA-type stuff. I bet 99.99999% of Americans have no idea that people are doing rallies. The Speed channel used to show WRC races - I'm not sure if they still do or not.

Dan Wheldon's New Hip Look...

This is apparently the latest style in hip sunglasses for fahionably cool, dashing race car drivers..... personally I think this is not a good look, but what do I know??

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/3527/wheldon1ru.jpg

Personally.I think your right.
My wee girl wears shades like these,shes 9.

Just a few pics of real racing.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6329/213bz.jpg Daytona 2005

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4579/160pg.jpg pit stop

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/8320/273oj.jpg Mark Martin, Tony, Matt

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8428/204zu.jpg Junior

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/138/150cw.jpg Tony

I knew youd post pics Ren haha,in pic 3 car 6 will win.Did you notice the ads on 6 and 17 are related.

LOL, I'm a picture posting fool--it's slow at work today and I'm goofing off, lol, here's some more pics of Mark, number 6. He drives the AAA car now. He's probably my favorite driver when all is said and done--so consistent, gentlemanly, doesn't do dumb things, an older guy who can still race with the young sprats. This is his last year of racing--would love to see him win the Nextel Cup---he is in the hunt. Go Mark go.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7034/mark9vk.jpg

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/516/mark27bq.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9926/mark36eg.jpg racing Kasey Kahne number 9, rising young star

Turning left and right:

http://www.trackbytes.com/news/images/small/1086/IMG_4883.jpg

http://backstretchmotorsports.com/WCGTMidOhio.jpg

Words of Wisdom from Ricky Bobby, star of the new NASCAR movie, Talladega Nights

Ricky Bobby on NASCAR being a sport: "When you're going 210 miles per hour into a turn at Talladega, and you're fighting off two cars, and you've got your wife in your headset telling you she wants a Lexus to keep her shoes in, then you tell me who is an athlete and who isn't. NASCAR is a sport and then some. No one gave Neil Armstrong crap about whether landing on the moon was a sport or not. They just basked in his awesomeness. So bask in my awesomeness. Do it. Bask. Right now."

On his earliest childhood memory: "My earliest memory is of a guy in a gorilla mask and no shirt being arrested on our front lawn. It was my dad. He had sold the sheriff's son a $200 block of oregano at a Leif Garrett concert. My dad tried to hide from the cops by putting on the gorilla mask and claiming he was a singing-telegram guy. He was kind of a rascal. Or, as the police called him, a repeat offender."

Carley Bobby on her clothing style: "I make a lot of my own clothes. I have my own label, Just Carley. I'm heavily influenced by the work of Jaclyn Smith and Christina Aguilera. Those are two ladies with undeniable style. But every Tuesday is Stevie Nicks Day. I feather my hair and wear flowing robes, and I spin a lot. It's really invigorating."

Well Ren,they say an older guy always has experience,by the way,your always slow at work.

It was a gorgeous spectacle today at the Brickyard 400---the crowds, the great weather, the camarderie of the fans, the food, the souvineers, getting to meet and greet some of our favorite drivers.

Unfortunately, I'm not too happy with how the race itself turned out---my fantasy team was doing just fine and I was well on my way to setting a new personal record for points total, when, with one half lap to go, an accident occured between Kasey Kahne and Denny Hamlin--2 of my drivers. Kasey hit the wall hard and was almost airborne--thankfully he's ok. Jimmie Johnson, not exactly a crowd favorite, won, and 4 time winner Jeff Gordon overcame an early 2 lap deficit to finish 16th.

All in all a fun day but I expect to drop in the standings. Oh well---at least I'm still beating Bubba.:eek:

Free Tickets for NASCAR Fans!!!


That is, if you're from Pluto.....

Fron nascar.com:



A day after the planet Pluto was disowned by the world's astronomers, Texas Motor Speedway President Eddie Gossage is embracing the former baby in the solar system's nine-planet pantheon.

In honor of the planet formerly known as Pluto, Texas Motor Speedway will give residents of Pluto a free ticket to the Dickies 500. The ticket would be for the 2015 or 2016 Dickies 500 since it is a three billion-mile trip that takes roughly 9½ years in the New Horizons spacecraft. Pluto race fans must show a photo ID with a proof of residence at the TMS ticket office to be eligible for a Dickies 500 ticket.

"This is such a Mickey Mouse move by the astronomers, especially since my second-grade teacher told me it was a planet back then and still should be," Gossage said. "They may disregard Pluto, but Texas Motor Speedway won't. We already have all 50 states and several foreign countries with season tickets, but we'd love to be the first speedway to get a season ticket-holder from Pluto. We are always looking to expand our market."

Knowing the mental ability of the average NASCAR fan (you aren't average rendova) it would not surprise me if some of them actually expect fans from Pluto to show up at the 2015 Dickies.

What the hell do you know about the average NASCAR fan? With the same amount of credibliity, you could very well say the exact same thing about the average NBA fan.

Tony Stewart Doesn't Make Chase

What a shock. It just won't be the same without Smoke, the defending champion and one of the better, more exciting drivers in Nextel Cup.

Smoke, tho he has a bad boy reputation, does lots of volunteer work for poor kids and has never forgotten where he's come from. He can be gracious when he wants to be---after the race Saturday at Richmond that eliminated him, he emerged smiling from his number 20 Home Depot car and congratulated the ten drivers who HAD made it in, and wished them could luck.

The pit road announcer asked if his chances were doomed from the start of the race, because he'd wrecked his primary car at practice and had to drive a backup car for the race, that just would not handle.
Tony said no, that he'd had 25 previous chances (races) to get in the Chase .

The Chase is on. Ten races to go!!!!!

Here are the ten drivers vying for the championship:

Matt Kenseth Leader
2. -- Jimmie Johnson -5
3. -- Kevin Harvick -10
4. +1 Kyle Busch -15
5. +2 Denny Hamlin -20
6. -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. -25
7. +2 Mark Martin -30
8. +2 Jeff Burton -35
9. -5 Jeff Gordon -40
10. +1 Kasey Kahne

My money is on either Jr or Kasey Kahne, who's on a real roll and has won 5 races this year and drove his heart out Saturday to get in this thing.--Denny has an outside chance. It's exciting to have a talented rookie in this thing.....Mark M is the sentimental favorite.

Do they start the 10 drivers at zero points for the chase or do they retain the points they've earned up to that point?

Here's how they do it--

Kenseth will start at zero, with J Johnson five points behind, and so on ( see chart). Kahne appears the real underdog at -45.

It might seem that the top 2 or so have a real lock but Jimmie had the lead the last two times going in and did not win.

Kyle Busch, the ninny, had a horrendous race today at Loudon, heheh, and has all but eliminated his sorry self from the Chase. At least SOMETHING went right in my sports universe today....Jimmie Johnson, who can't seem to get it going when it really counts, also did badly. There was some three wide and trading paint kind of racing today--just what the fans want to see!

Denny the rookie is now second in points total, Mark M and Kasey K also had decent showings; Harvick leads.

The Chase is truly up for grabs now--coming up Sunday, the Monster Mile at Dover.

Wild race at Dover's Monster Mile today--just what we expect from these playoffs too--blown engines, accidents, running out of gas, and Jeff Burton's first victory in I don't know how long.

Here's the standings after today:

+4 Jeff Burton Leader
2. +2 Jeff Gordon -6
3. -- Matt Kenseth -18
4. -2 Denny Hamlin -18
5. -4 Kevin Harvick -54
6. -- Mark Martin -75
7. -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. -102
8. +1 Jimmie Johnson -136
9. -1 Kasey Kahne -182
10. -- Kyle Busch -224


Kyle's chances took another big hit today , as did Kasey's because of an accident with Tony during the 11th lap.

Scuttlebutt has it that Juan Montoya will drive his first NASCAR race next week at Kansas. I'm not so sure this is a good idea--the guys are going all out and they will give him no quarter.

Nice to see that Tony Stewart is not on that list.

but....but....
Tony's the MAN.

Photo of Tony for all his billions of fans:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3461/tnw0631ge5146ddg1.gif


Photo of Kyle Busch for all 2 fans:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/331/headshotgn0.jpg

Now, who DESERVES it more??????????????????????????????

I really don't have any favorites in NASCAR. I don't particularly care for the home despot sponsored Stewart.

I really don't have any favorites in NASCAR. I don't particularly care for the home despot sponsored Stewart.

There's many hereabouts who dislike the native son too. I guess he's the kind of guy you either love or hate.
Many here prefer the bland, politically correct, dull Jeff Gordon, "Wonder Boy".

It's no fun unless you have a favorite driver/s, and those you heartily dislike too.

Denny Hamlin would get my fav. vote, primarily because his major sponsor pays our bills as well. I used to follow NASCAR more closely, not so much any more.

I like Denny. It's hard to believe he's a rookie, he's so talented. And he seems like a decent, down-home kind of young guy too...it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't win this whole thing, he's that good, and there's no pressure on him--he says he's having fun and enjoying the Chase.

I really don't have any favorites in NASCAR. I don't particularly care for the home despot sponsored Stewart.

: puts 2 and 2 together:

You must be the hardware guy at Lowe's. I've always preferred Lowe's, personally. Either that or you work at an independent store.

I love the Chase--each and every race is more wild, bizarre, accident-filled, and outrageous than the last...today, at Kansas, Tony won by coasting across the finish line with no gas...driver after driver was spluttering out there, trying desperately to get all four wheels across the finish line with their gas tanks empty--this after multiple spinouts, 5 wide racing, and drivers hitting the wall in turn 4, including Denny, who pulled off a miracle finish and is now a very close second in points total:

. -- Jeff Burton Leader
2. +2 Denny Hamlin -69
3. +3 Mark Martin -70
4. -1 Matt Kenseth -84
5. -- Kevin Harvick -96
6. -4 Jeff Gordon -120
7. -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. -123
8. -- Jimmie Johnson -165
9. +1 Kyle Busch -233
10. -1 Kasey Kahne -273

Next week--Talladega!!!!!
Let the REAl accidents begin............ one wrong move by anyone and it takes out 20 cars.

: puts 2 and 2 together:

You must be the hardware guy at Lowe's. I've always preferred Lowe's, personally. Either that or you work at an independent store.

Nope. Better check your math. I worked at Home Depot for over 2 years as the plumbing guru.

Suckful Way to End a Race

Jr was leading with one half lap to go at Talladega today, with Hendrick temmates Brian Vickers and Jimmie J right behind.
Jr probably would have been passed as the 2 drafted each other to go on by, but Vickers, who has never won a Nextel cup event, decided to end his 107 race winless streak by hitting Jimmie, who then hit Jr, who both then spun into the grass.
The boos were deafening.
It's highly doubtful that Vickers gets a ride from anyone next season and was told earlier this year by Hendrick that there wasn't a ride for him there anymore.

Standings after today with 6 races to go, and next race a night one at Lowe's at Charlotte:

. -- Jeff Burton Leader
2. +2 Matt Kenseth -6
3. -- Mark Martin -10
4. +1 Kevin Harvick -33
5. -3 Denny Hamlin -51
6. +1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. -106
7. -1 Jeff Gordon -147
8. -- Jimmie Johnson -156
9. +1 Kasey Kahne -185
10. -1 Kyle Busch -185

+1 Matt Kenseth Leader
2. +1 Kevin Harvick -36
3. +4 Jimmie Johnson -41
4. +2 Denny Hamlin -47
5. -4 Jeff Burton -48
6. -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. -94
7. -3 Mark Martin -96
8. -- Kasey Kahne -99
9. +1 Jeff Gordon -141
10. -1 Kyle Busch -171

Standings after today's wild race at Matinsville.

4 races to go---look for things to get REALLY ugly starting next week at NASCAR'S fastest, scariest track, Atlanta.

Jeffy eliminated from Championship contention today---he is too far out after today's race to win, tho he had a great showing in the race at Phoenix.

Jimmie Johnson, Mr Politically -correct Perfection, will have to finish no worse than 12th to wrap it up next week at Homestead for the Ford 400.

There might be a few drivers who have something to say about that---like Tony, who wrecked Jamie Macmurray today for not going fast enough, and who flips off Jimmie every chance he gets and would be more than delighted to knock him out of contention.

Bless his sweet Hoosier heart, that's just the kind of sweetie-pie Tony is and why we love him so.

Perhaps Tony will be taken out of the race early on.

Mr Politically -correct Perfection,

That's like a cardinal sin in the world of NASCAR, isn't it?

That's like a cardinal sin in the world of NASCAR, isn't it?

One would certainly hope so. :rant:

Lol!