The leftist anti war, anti military crowd always likes to say how we are killing civilians, and how mean and cruel we are, but they always overlook one thing; our enemy knows how much we care about the civilians, for they base their strategy around it. Sadaam and the Baath party know we care about the well being of innocent Iraqis, so they place them at military sites, knowing that we dont target civilians, now tell me, if we really didnt care about the civilians, wouldnt this be a wasted strategy? Why do the Baath part die hards dress up like civilians if they think we will just kill civilians? Its because they know we dont target civilians. Does this not prove that the iraqi regime cares less about their own people than we do? DOesnt this show that the leftists are falling in lock step with the Baath party and gobbeling up their propaganda? The fact is, the Baath party uses its civilians in illegal and immoral ways, forcing them to fight with a pistol to their heads, or the heads of their children, mowing them down when they try to flee the cities. Our men are giving them food and water and medical attention. These facts can not be denied, and to do so shows your contempt for this country and its allies, and your walking shoulder to shoulder with the baath party in its accusations of american attrocities while ignoring the Iraqi regimes atrocities is beyond sedition. You leftists should be ashamed of yourself, and will be by the time this is all over.

Well said Trav. We are even giving medical aid to fallen Iraqi soldiers who TRIED TO KILL OUR TROOPS. We're bringing in aid for the civillians, giving candy to the kids, etc. Yeah, we are such mean bastards.

The United States doesn't help these people as much as you conservative pricks think we do. The United States gives less that 1% of its money to the Arab world and you mean bastards say were giving to much.

I advise you to live in Iraq for a year under cruel sancations and see how long you last. I know you would become upset and would find someone to be angry at. They pick the United States because were wealthy but we don't share it. They will pick wealthy countries and attack them. I know they probably didn't learn this money and I know you hate giving money away because it's not very cool but these people are suffering and it's only money.

I know September 11th could of been avoided but the United States ignored any signs. If we listened to the terrrorist then things would be different but Bush is such a moron he would rather watch Baseball than run the government (for **** sakes he couldn't even run a baseball team). Bin Laden asked the United States to take troops out of holy land. The United States is also helping the war criminals in Israel and this pisses off Bin Laden. If the United States left Isarel now all they would need to do is raise taxes 5% and Isarel could continue to manufacture the same weapons the receive now.

Listen to these people and war can be avoided.

You are something else. We don't owe the Arab world a single penny. In your world view everything is the US's fault.

Oh & by the way - if you don't quit using profanity in posts then I'm going to ban you from the forum.

I guess you haven't seen the people "on your side" (I'm talking about your conservative butt buddies) that also use profanity. I suggest you ban them. I'm sorry you so offended by a word. The world of politically correct morons can all go play a nice game of go lets play in traffic.

I never said EVERYTHING was the fault of the United States but many things can be linked to mistakes the United States has made in the past. And next time you want to put words into my mouth notify me a head of time.

We don't owe anyone anything but some we do help others because it's the right thing to do. Instead of arming countries like Isreal with nucelar weapons why doesn't the United States use that money to help the poor? Why doesn't the United States use that money for schools and jobs? The United States can stop giving weapons to countries and start using that money to help the real people who need it and not some dumb ass leader on a power trip.

haha... You're retarded...

I have my head out of the clouds you dim-witted cracker. I might be stupid but atleast I don't hide behind a peice of fabric and call my self an American! Everything I said in my first post was based on factual information you moron. When are you going to present factual information that supports your dim-witted opinions? The best advice you can give me is to get my head out of the clouds. I suppose your also talking to the 5 million people around the world who went to protest this moron from Texas on a power trip.

ya well when it all comes down you will realize the people you call your friends will be nowhere to be found. A small minded fool sees a piece of fabric, a smart man sees his life and the lives of his forefathers, and the lives of his children and his childrens children. A very weak man calls it a piece of cloth for it is easier. Responsibility is a mans work, and children like you should keep doing what your doing. Men and women much better than you are in Iraq right now doing something for someone besides themselves, for an ideal that some of us have not burned down or spit upon. YOu are a discgrace to every man who fights tonight, you are a piece of trash, and if I could I would stomp your guts out in the street where you lay you scumbag.

I have many friends that wouldn’t stop talking to me unless I did something awful to them or someone close to them. I don’t care if these people I call friends stop talking to me because life goes on you dim-witted cracker. I don’t worry about the superficial bullshit that went on in high school. I’m sorry your still stuck in your teenage years.

I don’t think smart men see the stupid things your talking about. I mean look at all the smart people that criticized the United States Helen Keller, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, Martian Luther King, and Malcolm X. I think I’d rather follow the footsteps of great American heroes than listen to retards like George Bush, Dave Tooner and yourself.

I wouldn’t call the people in Iraq better than me. The only reason most people join the armed forces is to get into college. I wouldn’t call our soldiers great but I would call pacifist like Gandhi great. I’d much rather follow the footsteps of Gandhi than some moron from Texas who cant run a baseball team.

I might be a disgrace to many things but at least my parents didn’t abandon me in a dumpster behind some strip club in Las Vegas.

OK you win, you are super smart and know everything, now go to bed little boy, leave the responsibility and fighting to the real men,




go back to sleep


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You seem to continually compare yourself to people like Martin Luther King. There is no comparision. The fact that you even try to use these people as examples is a total joke.

Those people had a real issue to address - you have none.

Your only issue is your instability. You have a huge chip on your shoulder - your issue is internal - your fight is for your own sense of self worth and nothing more.

Being an "angry young rich kid" doesn't make you a civil rights leader - it just makes you a young punk.

A Flag is not just a peice of cloth - it is a symbol of a nation. The US was built by the blood sweat & tears of generations, as were many other countries. The fact that you degrade the flag as meaningless just shows how lacking you are in any sensibilities and understanding.

Your points about war, terrorism, iraq etc are to be blunt, pathetically uninformed, ideolistic and reek of the notions of a simpleton.

Keep on being angry, but resign yourself to be ineffective, useless and impotent.

It's scarey when people idolize racist pinheads like Malcom X and hate someone like GW. Actually, this guy probably hates George Washington, Jefferson, etc etc too.

I have a few pictures of my own you dim-witted crack.

http://electroniciraq.net/uploads/infomin350.jpg

http://electroniciraq.net/uploads/house-bombed_storm_250.jpg

The sky took on colors I’ve never seen before in my 43 years. Every Iraqi I’ve talked to says they’ve never seen anything like it.

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Nine year old, Rana Adnan needs oxygen for a chest laceration and lung contusion with a concussion, head laceration, and shrapnel in her left arm.

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Nada Adman, 13, has an open gash on her right cranium with underlying fracture and a large, deep shrapnel gauged cut into her upper left thigh.

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I'm absolutely lost as to the point you try to make with these photo's - what is your point - please explain ??

They are photo's of war - war is ugly, but some photo's of war do not mean that a specific war is wrong.

War rid the world of Nazism, Facism, slavery....there were equally brutal scenes in all these cases - does that mean those fights were wrong too?

Not one single thing you've ever said has credibility. As I said - you reek of the notions of a simpleton - please prove me wrong with something remotely intelligent.

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I challenge you to spend some time living away from the US. Pick some disadvantaged country, any one at all. Got anything to offer them? Can you teach? Got any training in the medical field? Can you hammer nails all day long and build some shelter? Know anything about farming? You talk about folks joining the military just for the college benefits. Some do, lots don't. They join because they want to do something for their country while improving their own lives. That takes maturity, determination, stamina, courage, and a willingness risk something of themselves, none of which you've demonstrated in any posting you've done here. You're operating a computer and you've shown that you can copy/paste,... are you good for anything? Oh yea, you can raise hell, thumb your nose at society, and complain incessantly. You're not even qualified to empty bedpans. Go tell mommy dearest she wants you.