Here is something about African Americans that I NEVER knew until receintly, and thought I'd share it here with the rest of you guys:


Did you guys al know that Black America was never intended to be a permanent part of this country?

The REAL reason the Emancipation Proclamation was drawn up in the first place was to not to set them free and give them equal living rights, It was created to get rid of those guys by sending them all back to Africa, and Abraham Lincoln was ALL FOR IT!!! This was a master plan created by our own government that went horribly wrong!!

Here’s a short story that explains:

During the industrial revolution, the United States was going through a transition. A transition from forced labor to industrialization. Now that the technology existed to make machines in mass quantities, slavery was no longer a required necessity. Therefore the African Slave trade was no longer needed. Our Government sent a team of engineers to Africa to purchase a large piece of land from the Nigerians that they named “Liberia”. It is the ONLY country in the world with a capital that is named after an American president. (Monrovia, which is named after our 5th president James Monroe). This place was set up as a “drop off” point for all of the African slaves in America for whose services were no longer required. Our government was going to send Black America back to Africa and give this land to them to start own country, a country to rule themselves by their own right. In return for this, they would have to allow the US access to 25% of whatever natural resources that were discovered over there. This would have been in effect for a total of exactly 100 years (from 1863 to 1963). At this point our government was going to cut their umbilical cord by allowing these guys to create their own declaration of independence, then we would have waved them goodbye and would have both gone our own ways.


Things went sour when the “people” in the south grew afraid that the end of slavery meant the end of the southern economy. The US Government tried to get the south to embrace the new technology and machinery that it possessed, but the south was a little too comfortable with things being the way that they were. When they heard that the Government was about to take their slaves away and give them their own country in Africa, they (the south) decided to leave the union and start their own country too by forming up the “Confederate States of America”. This is what lead to the Civil war


Once the war was over, the Government was left with three main issues

1) They had to Militarily Occupy the south to stop any further rebellions
2) They had to finance the Reconstruction era by rebuilding everything that was destroyed in the war
3) They had to gather up more troops to re-enforce the Calvary in the west with the Indian wars.

These three things consumed so much of the governments time, money and manpower, that they decided to “segregate” black America by putting it on the backburner and leaving it there until these three domestic issues were cleaned up. By the time everything was organized and back under control again, this entire African transition was abandoned and Black America was “marooned” over here.


I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but this was some really shocking news to me. I gathered this information from a seemingly well written book called “Forced into Glory, Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream” written by a well renown historian named Leronne Bennett Jr. The next time you guys decide to drop by the local bookstore, ask about this book and take look at into it. Believe me its well worth the reading time. :cool:

Emancipation Proclamation : January 1, 1863


Whereas, on the twenty-second day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-two, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:

"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.

"That the Executive will, on the first day of January aforesaid, by proclamation, designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof, respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that any State, or the people thereof, shall on that day be, in good faith, represented in the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such State shall have participated, shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive evidence that such State, and the people thereof, are not then in rebellion against the United States."

Now, therefore I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and in accordance with my purpose so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States, the following, to wit:

Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.

And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons.

And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.

And I further declare and make known, that such persons of suitable condition, will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts, positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said service.

And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God.

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the City of Washington, this first day of
January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight
hundred and sixty three, and of the Independence of the
United States of America the eighty-seventh.

By the President: ABRAHAM LINCOLN
WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State.

Originally posted by Dunkirk101
I gathered this information from a seemingly well written book called “Forced into Glory, Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream” written by a well renown historian named Leronne Bennett Jr. The next time you guys decide to drop by the local bookstore, ask about this book and take look at into it. Believe me its well worth the reading time. :cool: I haven't read the book, so I looked at a review (http://www.claremont.org/writings/000901morel.html) written by Lucas E. Morel of the Claremont Institute. His main cricticsm (among many) of the book is that Bennett "selectively quotes" from documents such as Frederick Douglass' Oration in Memory of Abraham Lincoln (http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=39).

For example, Douglass states:

"He was preeminently the white man’s President, entirely devoted to the welfare of white men. He was ready and willing at any time during the first years of his administration to deny, postpone, and sacrifice the rights of humanity in the colored people to promote the welfare of the white people of this country. In all his education and feeling he was an American of the Americans. He came into the Presidential chair upon one principle alone, namely, opposition to the extension of slavery. His arguments in furtherance of this policy had their motive and mainspring in his patriotic devotion to the interests of his own race. To protect, defend, and perpetuate slavery in the states where it existed Abraham Lincoln was not less ready than any other President to draw the sword of the nation. He was ready to execute all the supposed guarantees of the United States Constitution in favor of the slave system anywhere inside the slave states. He was willing to pursue, recapture, and send back the fugitive slave to his master, and to suppress a slave rising for liberty, though his guilty master were already in arms against the Government."

These remarks, taken by themselves, support Bennett's hypothesis. However, Douglass also says:

"I have said that President Lincoln was a white man, and shared the prejudices common to his countrymen towards the colored race. Looking back to his times and to the condition of his country, we are compelled to admit that this unfriendly feeling on his part may be safely set down as one element of his wonderful success in organizing the loyal American people for the tremendous conflict before them, and bringing them safely through that conflict. His great mission was to accomplish two things: first, to save his country from dismemberment and ruin; and, second, to free his country from the great crime of slavery. To do one or the other, or both, he must have the earnest sympathy and the powerful cooperation of his loyal fellow-countrymen. Without this primary and essential condition to success his efforts must have been vain and utterly fruitless. Had he put the abolition of slavery before the salvation of the Union, he would have inevitably driven from him a powerful class of the American people and rendered resistance to rebellion impossible. Viewed from the genuine abolition ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull, and indifferent; but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined."

It's very easy to create a false hypothesis when you subjectively choose parts of an historical source while ignoring the whole.

Originally posted by Dunkirk101
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Things went sour when the “people” in the south grew afraid that the end of slavery meant the end of the southern economy.
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Thanks for the Civil War topic, dunkirk--always a subject of great interest to me.

First off, your quote "people"--?? We need to remember that the huge majority of southerners were not slaveowners, nor were the Rebel soldiers.. the South was invaded (First Manassas) and no matter how wrong the cause (and in truth, there were many Confeds who saw this is basically a conflict over States' Rights and not slavery--see "The Confederacy as a Revolutionary Experience" by Emory Thomas)---a man has the right to defend his land, his farm, his kin.

"Why did you come down here? We never would have gone up there." dying Reb soldier to Federal at Shiloh

"This is a rich man's war but a poor man's fight." Reb soldier (and the same could be said for MOST wars, I believe.)

Back to Lincoln. Here's another take on this:

http://www.nps.gov/liho/slavery/al01.htm

According to many historians, the Civil War was not a war over slavery or even a war over State's rights. It was a war between the agrarian south and the industrial north to see if the nation would fullyenter the industrial age or not.

If you want to read a good book on the subject, read, If The South Had Won The Civil War, by Jim Bishop.