Well - it seems Alito's first vote was against the conservative dissent & with the majority.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2021512,00.html

So much for those who "knew" exactly how his votes would fall.

I thought he was going to kill kids with asthma?

Originally posted by DrewM

So much for those who "knew" exactly how his votes would fall.

?!?!?!?

Alito has cast ONE vote, and you instantly begin crowing victory over those who said he'd likely side most often with the corporations and/or the conservatives on the issues..........?!?!?!?!?!

Unbelievable.

You're even more hypocritical and more ignorant than i'd originally thought.

Originally posted by Freethinker
You're even more hypocritical and more ignorant than i'd originally thought.

you say that in every post - I'm sure by tommorrow your opinion will ratchet even lower. The lower your opinion - the more I know I am on the right track.

Originally posted by Freethinker
?!?!?!?

Alito has cast ONE vote, and you instantly begin crowing victory over those who said he'd likely side most often with the corporations and/or the conservatives on the issues..........?!?!?!?!?!

Unbelievable.

You're even more hypocritical and more ignorant than i'd originally thought.
His statement, albeit somewhat premature, does serve to illustrate a good point, but I suppose a clairvoyant like you is too smart to think it's just a mere coincidence. I mean, after all, you already know how he's going to vote, right?

Originally posted by The Praetorian
......I suppose a clairvoyant like you is too smart to think it's just a mere coincidence. I mean, after all, you already know how he's going to vote, right?

I know one thing......

I wil bet you any amount of money you'd care to wager, that of his first, say, thirty votes that have ANYTHING to do with pitting the interests of the Corporations in America against the interests of the American People, the majority of the time he will come down on the side of the corporations...........his past history leaves virtually no doubt as to that eventuality.

NOW, how much do you want to wager, smart guy?!?!?!?

I will bet you a swift kick in the ass

Originally posted by DrewM
you say that in every post -

LOL.

A demonstrable lie.

I have made 3542 posts here.

I don't recall ever having said it once prior to this point, much less 3542 times.

But please, feel free to try and find a post where I said it.

Originally posted by DrewM
I'm sure by tommorrow your opinion will ratchet even lower.

No, let me assuage your fretfulness on that score by assuring you it will not.

My opinion of you seems to have reached its nadir with your last puerile communique.

Aw come on - surely it can go lower. Don't short change me.

Honestly, I'm glad to see that he did not vote in a conservative way. But like FT said, this is one vote. It does not mean much what-so-ever. Not to mention there are those conservatives who sometimes are actually Pro-Life on the abortion issue and the death penalty...

I know it's just one vote and doesn't mean much - but I couldn't resist posting that. It's like waving a red flag to a bull - wave the flag & then sit back & laugh.

more like showing a cross to a vampire drew

Originally posted by Freethinker
?!?!?!?

Alito has cast ONE vote, and you instantly begin crowing victory over those who said he'd likely side most often with the corporations and/or the conservatives on the issues..........?!?!?!?!?!

Unbelievable.

You're even more hypocritical and more ignorant than i'd originally thought.

Had he cast his first vote the other way you would be gleefully chortling about how you knew he would be a conservative demon.

Let's all make that wager with Freethinker and then hope we lose it. In that way he will finally have enough money to leave the country he despises so much. :p

Originally posted by Travh20
I will bet you a swift kick in the ass

It's a bet.

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The essential problem is that Americans have been lying to themselves for so many years now that they are completely incapable of telling the difference between the rather frightening truth and their mythological view of America.

Originally posted by Freethinker
I wil bet you any amount of money you'd care to wager, that of his first, say, thirty votes that have ANYTHING to do with pitting the interests of the Corporations in America against the interests of the American People...
I think that's a matter of perspective, don't you? I'm sure in your head it's very clear cut, but please do me a favor and put your preconceived notions aside while developing a reasonable understanding of the situation. Here's where that comes in handy: the two halves of the equation above aren't always mutually exclusive. They never have been, and they never will be. Look, FT, I know you're a rabid anti-corporate type, but for god's sake, look around you, man....technology rocks. MOST corporations aren't out to poison your babies, or destroy humanity. While, as a nation, it would definitely behoove us to monitor their actions, indicting them based on your resentful, skeptical, biased, and cynical pre-prescribed "they're all evil" notion is just as stupid as letting them operate unchecked. I think it's safe to say that Alito will take that into consideration.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
I ...for god's sake, look around you, man....technology rocks.

Yeah.

Right.

Technology is giving us massive pollution, wholesale destruction of the ecosphere, mass extinctions, nuclear weapons proliferation and killer viruses that may wipe out a billion people.

*Technology* happens to be the thing that is going to end up wiping out the human species.

The fundamental problem is this: Man is a parasite, and it is the nature of all parasites to feed off their hosts, overpopulate, kill off their hosts, and then die themselves.

Which is exactly what homo sapiens is currently in the process of doing.

As Kurt Vonnegut wrote a short time ago: "The planet's immune system is trying to get rid of us, and high time!"

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HEADLINE: Human Impact Triggers Massive Extinctions

ST. LOUIS, Missouri, August 2, 1999 (ENS) - Humanity's impact on the earth has increased extinction rates to levels rivaling the five mass extinctions of past geologic history, transformed nearly half of Earth’s land and created 50 dead zones in the world’s oceans, according to research being presented this week at the 16th International Botanical Congress.

Delegates at the world's largest gathering of plant scientists, which opened Friday, heard a seven point plan to slow the extinction rates of plants around the world. The Congress has brought together some 5,000 scientists from more than 100 countries to discuss the importance of plants for human survival and improved quality of life, and to announce breakthrough research in the field of plant science.

Two studies being discussed find that humans have gravely altered the chemistry, biology and physical structure of the Earth's land and water. What scientists are calling the "human footprint on Earth" is increasingly impairing the planet’s ability to maintain the quality of human life, and may lead to a mass extinction.

Mass extinctions are events where the rate of species extinctions becomes much higher than the background rate, and large percentages of species are lost.

There have been five major extinction events in Earth history, including the one in which dinosaurs disappeared. At that time, two thirds of all land organisms disappeared and the character of life changed permanently.

The current extinction rate is now approaching 1,000 times the background rate and may climb to 10,000 times the background rate during the next century, if present trends continue. At this rate, one-third to two-thirds of all species of plants, animals, and other organisms would be lost during the second half of the next century, a loss that would easily equal those of past extinctions.

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Yep........technology shoooore is wunnerful........

Originally posted by Freethinker
There have been five major extinction events in Earth history, including the one in which dinosaurs disappeared.
Gee, I wonder what they built to deserve that??? Oh, I know....it was probably all the dinosaur corporations...

Freethinker,
You do realize that by making that post you are a major contributer to this TechnoEvil. The keyboard, the desk, the chair, the mousepad, the light in your room, the computer, the electricity to power these things, the oil which powers that, the machines which retrieve that, the companies that make the machines, etc etc etc.

We're all culprits and thats just the way things are.

I love mother earth. I love central heating more.

Just my 3 cents.

Originally posted by Evil Homer
Freethinker,
You do realize that by making that post you are a major contributer to this TechnoEvil. The keyboard, the desk, the chair, the mousepad, the light in your room, the computer, the electricity to power these things, the oil which powers that, the machines which retrieve that, the companies that make the machines, etc etc etc.

Yes, it's true, and I am perfectly aware of that.

But unlike the anti-environmentalist crowd, the people who see nothing at all wrong with (or who just stick their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening) our continuing destruction of the planetary environment, I support the U.S. government immediately begining to institute policies -- stringent policies-- that would DO SOMETHING to mitigate and lessen the effects that all this techno-evil is HAVING on the planet.............even if it means we all have to give up some of our taken-for-granted comforts.

One person or a thousand people or ten thousand caring, committed people getting more ecologically aware, more *green*, in their lives is NOTHING compared to the effect that the government could have if it were to commit, nationwide, to a policy of saving the environment.

Don't you agree??

I guess we should all take cyanide pills then because that can be the only solution to what you post.

So your saying that you acknowlege the problem and yet you continue your transgressions....

Originally posted by DrewM
I guess we should all take cyanide pills then because that can be the only solution to what you post.

We'll have to disguise it as Flintstone's vitamins in new, bitter almond flavor.

Originally posted by Evil Homer
So your saying that you acknowlege the problem and yet you continue your transgressions....

huh? - I don't think living is a transgression.

Originally posted by DrewM
huh? - I don't think living is a transgression.
I think he was talking to Freethinker.

Aye. Sorry for the confusion. ;-P

Originally posted by Freethinker
But unlike the anti-environmentalist crowd,.....I support the U.S. government immediately begining to institute policies -- stringent policies.......
So your actions and my actions are pretty much the same, but your INTENTIONS are better.

This is a point Rush Limbaugh constantly makes about the left. He may not be so smart, but you sure make him seem so.