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Dunkirk101
01-31-2006, 03:51 AM
This is a photo of a Female Chinese Protester that was sentenced to death for publicly speaking out against the policies of their Government. This execution was carried out just minutes after sentencing.

Man, and I though the U.S. judicial system was brutal :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/starguard/113330.jpg

Freethinker
01-31-2006, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Dunkirk101
This is a photo of a Female Chinese Protester that was sentenced to death for publicly speaking out against the policies of their Government.

Hey!!!.........today it's China enforcing uniformity of political opinion.........tommorrow, (if wonderfully patriotic folk like Drew and Praetorian have their way) maybe the U.S. of A. will begin treating its protestors similarly!!!!!

(after the evil dissenter is tortured for a suitable period of time by having a car battery hooked to his testicles, of course)

DrewM
01-31-2006, 04:16 AM
It's photos from one of your communist paradise zones.

rendova
01-31-2006, 06:27 AM
Jesus H Christ, did that woman have a trial? A chance to defend herself?
A system which, tho flawed, carries checks and balances to insure that citizens get a chance to answer for themselves in an open court?
Therse are horrific pictures but they need to be seen. Who was the photographer that took these? He was probably risking his own life.

astrapol2
01-31-2006, 06:34 AM
Dunkirk could you share your sources ?

Vilepagan
01-31-2006, 06:46 AM
Great...so much for breakfast. Is there a point to these pictures?

Next time please just post a link.

Dunkirk101
01-31-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by astrapol2
Dunkirk could you share your sources ?

They were e-mailed to me from a friend of mines. I will contact him today and ask him where he got them from.

rendova
01-31-2006, 07:48 AM
I just noticed that the woman is wearing different clothes in various pictures. In some shots, she appears to have on some kind of straitjacket/restraining device. In others, a sweater.

I suppose this means nothing; they are probably shots taken at varying points in time. She did look brave and unfearful.

Are there 2 women? In the latter shots, it appears there are 2 women lying there. aAso how did they get the straitjacket off without untying her hands?

The Praetorian
01-31-2006, 12:49 PM
Whoa! At least now I know what a 7.62 x 39 mm shell does when fired at the back of someone’s head at close range...

Hey, and I thought WE had the most brutal nation on Earth...:confused:

Looks like the Chinese are vying for position right behind us, right FT? Heh, I say good luck commies – we’ve got Terri Schiavo. Top that.

The Praetorian
01-31-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Hey!!!.........today it's China enforcing uniformity of political opinion.........tommorrow, (if wonderfully patriotic folk like Drew and Praetorian have their way) maybe the U.S. of A. will begin treating its protestors similarly!!!!!

(after the evil dissenter is tortured for a suitable period of time by having a car battery hooked to his testicles, of course)
Damn skippy.

Can we start with you?

Freethinker
01-31-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by DrewM
It's photos from one of your communist paradise zones.

Hey, nice point.

Well, except for the fact that I am not a communist.

And except for the fact that I am not in the habit of singing the praises of communist countries.

And except for the fact that I have never made any statement pro or con concerning China.

And except for the fact that I have never made any statement alluding to any communist country as being a *paradise*.

But hey!......other than that.......terrific point.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Freethinker
01-31-2006, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
Damn skippy.

Can we start with you?

Why, by all means.

Grab a battery and try your luck.

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You know, it never ceases to amaze me how angry and beligerent that fucktards like you are when one person out of a thousand doesn't go along with you and your idea of how the country should be structured........you and other rightwing people have your way and your say in things political and social in this country to a degree 1000 times as satisfactory to you as it is to me, in the sense of the way that the country should be run..........yet STILL it galls you mightily to have somone dare to dissent. "Down with the evil non-believer!! Torture him, until he recants, and begins to believe as we righteous rightwing folk believe!!!"

Goddamned sickening.

The Praetorian
01-31-2006, 02:48 PM
First off, it was a joke - relax. Secondly, I don't care when people like you go off at the mouth because it's not dissent; it's out-and-out hatred, period - and what seems to "gall you mightily" is when someone points it out. Deal with it.

Admit it, FT. Make me happy. Tell me you think there's no "fixing" this country. I, along with pretty much everyone else here, already know your answer, so why continue with the charade? Do me a favor, and don't insult our intelligence any more - just be honest. Admit you're no dissenter. Admit you're a fucking hypocrite, and admit you have no intention of fixing or helping a country that you think is unfixable. You, my friend, are the one who's misguided, miserable and misplaced, not me. Feel free to leave anytime.

Travh20
01-31-2006, 03:27 PM
that is what we need to do with child rapists and molestors

Freethinker
01-31-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
I don't care when people like you go off at the mouth because it's not dissent; it's out-and-out hatred...

Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAHHHHMbulance.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Admit it, FT. Make me happy. Tell me you think there's no "fixing" this country.

Admit it?!?!?

Pretty much every word I have posted is in that vein, Dick Tracy.

No, i do not think this country can be or will be "fixed".

It is beyond the point of repair.

It has reached critical mass. One day very soon, some very violent and determined friends and compatriots of the people this government has slaughtered and starved to death in various and sundry foreign countries (the Middle East in particular) around the world over the past 50 years, ----people who over the course of that 50 years have built up an incredible amount of hatred and a deep sense of injustice for what this country has done to them---- will send their next calling card. I think it will be a nuclear calling card....one that will make 9/11 pale by comparison.

And while I see it as inevitable, I emphatically do NOT look forward to that day. I wish it could be avoided and prevented, although I do not believe our insane ConservFascist leaders have the intelligence --and perhaps not even the motivation-- to prevent it. I dread it. I feel sorry for the planet having to endure it. It will very likely send the entire world spinning into unimaginable chaos.

Every person on the planet will likely have their lives affected by that event. All of our lives will likely be changed for the worse, forever. (Well, everyone except for your extreme Rightwing politician pals, who will be sitting in a very deep bunker sipping cold drinks and eating steaks. )

And when that day comes, I will be filled with one overwhelming thought; the extreme rightwing politicians in this country, and the useful idiots like you and Travh and Drew and Darth and Brooks and HaVok and Decka and every other self-righteous, uber-conservative Gawd-Guns-n-Guts twit who supported them and voted for them and who abetted them in perpetating their crimes against humanity throughout the globe will have brought it on yourselves.

My most fervent desire is that as we all stand amid the rubble, with radioactive poison silently and relentlessly filtering thru our bodies, that you and your rightwing pals will be standing there sick with regret as it slowly dawns on you that your precious far-right government has wound up getting you and all your loved ones killed and your world ultimately destroyed, and you will finally have the realization come into your propagandized fucking brain --"My god!.....what have we done!?!?!?!"

My greatest regret will be that far from being the only ones suffering, you and the rest of the Rightwing sheep will have sentenced billions of innocent people around the world to also suffer horribly, due to your willful blindness, your abject ignorance. your arrogance and your support of an anti-human ConservFascist political agenda.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
.....admit you have no intention of fixing or helping a country that you think is unfixable.

I admit it. America has become a rabid maddog. Soon --unfortunately-- it will be shot. And the Rightwing faction has only itself to thank.

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Even after having said all that, I will have to say that I wish America COULD be saved. If I did not, deep down, care about this country's future, I would not spend countless hours arguing over how horribly wrong it has gone under the extreme rightwing leadership --- the political cabal that is destroying it.

The Praetorian
01-31-2006, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Admit it?!?!?

Pretty much every word I have posted is in that vein, Dick Tracy.

No, i do not think this country can be or will be "fixed".

It is beyond the point of repair.
Relax, it was a rhetorical question. On that note, exiting stage left will undoubtedly save you the pain of having to deal with the indelible day we’re all vaporized by the angered, toothless, floor-shitters of the Middle East. I suggest you make hay while the sun shines, and get out of here while you still can. You may only have days left.....

The Praetorian
01-31-2006, 04:23 PM
Wait a minute...

In those pictures, is that............KateYHuang????

Freethinker
02-01-2006, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
...exiting stage left will undoubtedly save you the pain of having to deal with the indelible day we're all vaporized by the angered, toothless, floor-shitters of the Middle East.

I take it that the term *indelible* that you used was meant as the word *inevitable*.....?? No?

In which case I wholeheartedly agree with your advice.

BTW, Archie Bunker.......not all Middle Eastern people are toothless vagabonds.

(I'm not sure what the *floor-shitters* reference means.)

Originally posted by The Praetorian
.I suggest you make hay while the sun shines, and get out of here while you still can.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Indeed, I am saving every nickel I can in anticipation of that very thing.

Decka
02-01-2006, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAHHHHMbulance.

sounds like you avoided the call-out there...

Originally posted by Freethinker

It has reached critical mass. One day very soon, some very violent and determined friends and compatriots of the people this government has slaughtered and starved to death in various and sundry foreign countries (the Middle East in particular) around the world over the past 50 years, ----people who over the course of that 50 years have built up an incredible amount of hatred and a deep sense of injustice for what this country has done to them---- will send their next calling card. I think it will be a nuclear calling card....one that will make 9/11 pale by comparison.

And while I see it as inevitable, I emphatically do NOT look forward to that day. I wish it could be avoided and prevented, although I do not believe our insane ConservFascist leaders have the intelligence --and perhaps not even the motivation-- to prevent it. I dread it. I feel sorry for the planet having to endure it. It will very likely send the entire world spinning into unimaginable chaos.

Every person on the planet will likely have their lives affected by that event. All of our lives will likely be changed for the worse, forever. (Well, everyone except for your extreme Rightwing politician pals, who will be sitting in a very deep bunker sipping cold drinks and eating steaks. )

So let me get this straight.. you ADMIT that coming up there is going to be a BIG attack on the united states, but yet you are against wiretapping and intimidating people who are suspected to be INVOLVED with this big attack. Should we call a psychic to find out when and how its coming??? what is your solution????

Originally posted by Freethinker

And when that day comes, I will be filled with one overwhelming thought; the extreme rightwing politicians in this country, and the useful idiots like you and Travh and Drew and Darth and Brooks and HaVok and Decka and every other self-righteous, uber-conservative Gawd-Guns-n-Guts twit who supported them and voted for them and who abetted them in perpetating their crimes against humanity throughout the globe will have brought it on yourselves.

So you think i live in the bible belt and was born in a trailer huh?? Sadly you are misinformed.

And hey all this "YOUR DOOM IS COMING" stuff is funny, but i dont hear any opposing viewpoints or new ideas.

Originally posted by Freethinker

My most fervent desire is that as we all stand amid the rubble, with radioactive poison silently and relentlessly filtering thru our bodies, that you and your rightwing pals will be standing there sick with regret as it slowly dawns on you that your precious far-right government has wound up getting you and all your loved ones killed and your world ultimately destroyed, and you will finally have the realization come into your propagandized fucking brain --"My god!.....what have we done!?!?!?!"

So some extreme muslim attack would be SOMEONE's fault? They hate AMERICA... they hate YOU, they hate ME... you sound like a playground child... "its there fault!!!"

And honestly, can you shorten up your speech and quit the adjectives, i could pretty much sum up this whole post in 50 words LOL.

Originally posted by Freethinker

My greatest regret will be that far from being the only ones suffering, you and the rest of the Rightwing sheep will have sentenced billions of innocent people around the world to also suffer horribly, due to your willful blindness, your abject ignorance. your arrogance and your support of an anti-human ConservFascist political agenda.

Blah blah blah.. still no new ideas....


Originally posted by Freethinker

I admit it. America has become a rabid maddog. Soon --unfortunately-- it will be shot. And the Rightwing faction has only itself to thank.

LOL, well keep saving and GTFO and dont let the door hit ya on the ass.

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Originally posted by Freethinker

Even after having said all that, I will have to say that I wish America COULD be saved. If I did not, deep down, care about this country's future, I would not spend countless hours arguing over how horribly wrong it has gone under the extreme rightwing leadership --- the political cabal that is destroying it.

Here is an interesting concept, you "LOVE" america, but yet you disagree with pretty much EVERYTHING about it. I never got an answer on if you agree with the way we split from Britain, killed thousands and thousands of british just over taxation, or what about WW2? Both defining moments of what america is, and yet your ideals differ with them greatly. What about america do you love?

The Praetorian
02-01-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
I take it that the term *indelible* that you used was meant as the word *inevitable*.....?? No?
No, indelible.

Unless I'm wrong, an indelible thought is one that will be remembered always. Is it possible for an event to be "indelible" worldwide? If so, then how did I use the word incorrectly? I don't mean to seem combative here, so tell me what your thoughts are. I respect your command of the English language, and I’d like to learn.
Originally posted by Freethinker
BTW, Archie Bunker.......not all Middle Eastern people are toothless vagabonds.
The ones who go around killing in the name of Allah, who have no respect for innocent people or a civilized society, are, indeed, the lowest form of human beings known to our species. I wasn't referring to *all* Middle Easterners - just the terrorists. I didn't mean to rouse your delicate sensitivities, cupcake. Take it easy.

Napsterbater
02-01-2006, 11:08 AM
Cupcake. Such sublime patronization. That deserves the Napsterbater seal of approval!(TM)

ConservativeMan
02-01-2006, 01:56 PM
This is the kind of human rights violations that we need to start pressuring the chinese government to stop. Who knows what that woman did, but it was not deservant of the death penalty.

This probably happens to people over there more than they will admit. People like teachers, opposition leaders and Christians are probably put to death every day over there.

astrapol2
02-01-2006, 02:10 PM
I am still waiting for a reliable source and precise context for these pictures. Not that I doubt China regularly does this kind of execution, but I think the matter and the images are serious enough to deserve at least a source check.
Internet is a great information source but it can alos be the place of any manipulation, we should all remember that.

The Praetorian
02-01-2006, 02:23 PM
To me, it looks as if the photos are real enough. I don't know about you, but I'd bet cash those commies smoked that chick. JMO.

BTW, did anyone else think she was kind of fat for being Chinese?

rendova
02-01-2006, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by astrapol2
I am still waiting for a reliable source and precise context for these pictures. Not that I doubt China regularly does this kind of execution, but I think the matter and the images are serious enough to deserve at least a source check.
Internet is a great information source but it can alos be the place of any manipulation, we should all remember that.

Yes, me too, I'd like to see a source.
I am still wondering myself about there being TWO women there. Was the second woman also shot for a crime against the government?
Or perhaps she was just jaywalking?

The Praetorian
02-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by rendova
Was the second woman...shot for.....jaywalking?
No, jaywalking carries with it a penalty no greater than losing a limb in China.

Freethinker
02-01-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Decka
So let me get this straight.. you ADMIT that coming up there is going to be a BIG attack on the united states, but yet you are against wiretapping and intimidating people who are suspected to be INVOLVED with this big attack.

Huh?!?!?!?

I have never said anything remotely resembling what you accuse me of.

I will make a deal with you.

I will cede this argument, and declare you the master of all space and time, if you can quote one word, one single goddamned word that i have EVER written on this board or any other that claims, states or even suggests that I am, as you allege --""against wiretapping people who are suspected to be involved with"" any facet of terrorism.

Originally posted by Decka
what is your solution????

I advocate but one thing on this subject. For Bush to stop lying thru his goddamned teeth to the American Public and to start obeying the laws already in place as regards the wiretapping of people in America.

Originally posted by Decka
So you think i live in the bible belt and was born in a trailer huh?? Sadly you are misinformed.

WTF?!?!?!?

You've gone insane.

If you would prove that you are NOT making insane claims, all you have to do is quote one word that I have EVER written on this board or any other that claims, states or even suggests that you, Decka, ""live in the Bible Belt"" and/or were ""born in a trailer"".

I have never --in ANY post on this thread--- made the slightest MENTION of anyone "living in the Bible Belt".

I have never --in ANY post on this thread--- made the slightest MENTION of people being "born in a trailer".

Originally posted by Decka
So some extreme muslim attack would be SOMEONE's fault?

Yes. It will be --at the very root of it-- the fault of the people [your heroes on the Right] who decided they would kill anyone in the middle East who got in the way of their supply of oil and the profits they glean from it.

It will be what the intelligence community refers to as *blowback*.

A retaliatory strike for the hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of deaths of people in the Middle East that came about due to the policies this extreme Rightwing government (the one you ceaslessly make fucking excuses for) has carried out.


Originally posted by Decka
They hate AMERICA... they hate YOU, they hate ME...

I agree that they hate the government in this country.

And any rational person would understand why they do.

Originally posted by Decka
i could pretty much sum up this whole post in 50 words

I believe you.

Given your childlike form of communicating, those 50 words would no doubt represent a very large percentage of your vocabulary.

Originally posted by Decka
LOL, well keep saving and GTFO and dont let the door hit ya on the ass.

Ahhhh......""cumpassionate kkkonservatism"" in action.

Originally posted by Decka
Here is an interesting concept, you "LOVE" america, but yet you disagree with pretty much EVERYTHING about it.

In my prior remarks, I did not suggest that I **love America**.

I said that I cared about the future of America........i.e., it's continued existence as a landmass.

It is filled to the rim with simpleminded jackasses like you who are incapable of critical thought, but that doesn't mean I want all of them to die in a nuclear conflagration that some future terrorist attack will likely bring about.

They probably WILL, but it is not something i look forward to.

Originally posted by Decka
I never got an answer on if you agree with the way we split from Britain, killed thousands and thousands of british just over taxation, or what about WW2?

I don't recall reading that question from you. Please restate it and I will be glad to answer.

Originally posted by Decka
What about america do you love?

Uhhhh..........................

uhhhhh...............................

uhhhhh...............................

uhhhhh...............................

errmmm.......................uhh............

............got it!!!!

The fact that it produced both Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky.

The Praetorian
02-01-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
I believe you.

Given your childlike form of communicating, those 50 words would no doubt represent a very large percentage of your vocabulary.
Ouch! :bike:

I'm sorry, Decka, but that was kind of funny...
Originally posted by Freethinker
It (America) is filled to the rim with simpleminded jackasses like you who are incapable of critical thought, but that doesn't mean I want all of them to die in a nuclear conflagration that some future terrorist attack will likely bring about.
The needle on my bullshit detector pegged full intensity with that comment. If anybody conservative here met with an "accident", you'd probably smear yourself in Vaseline and dance on your rooftop.

Freethinker
02-01-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian

The needle on my bullshit detector pegged full intensity with that comment. If anybody conservative here met with an "accident", you'd probably smear yourself in Vaseline and dance on your rooftop.

You're wrong.

Even though I have, for die-hard, pro-war rightwingers, a VERY low regard for them as human beings, I do not want to see them hurt.

The Praetorian
02-01-2006, 05:17 PM
That's really sweet, but I'll bet it's not entirely true. Aren't they the ones responsible for the changing environment, war, wholesale death, subjugation of the poor, and aids? If you honestly feel this way, then why not grab a Remington 700, and start pickin' us off from the nearest clock tower?

Darth Be'lal
02-01-2006, 06:39 PM
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
form of tyranny over the mind of man."

This is one of those quotes that I really and truly live by. I just loathe the greedy sons of bitches who went and gave China Most Favored Nation trading status.

We shoudn't be trading with Chi-Com scum, but spending zillions on space based weaponry and anything else needed to smash the Commies into kindling. Dammit.

sedan
02-01-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
I just loathe the greedy sons of bitches who went and gave China Most Favored Nation trading status.The former Senators Jesse Helms and Paul Wellstone agreed on very few things. Fighting MFN for China was one of them.We shoudn't be trading with Chi-Com scum, but spending zillions on space based weaponry and anything else needed to smash the Commies into kindling. Dammit. Nice to have you back. Dammit.

astrapol2
02-02-2006, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
To me, it looks as if the photos are real enough. I don't know about you, but I'd bet cash those commies smoked that chick. JMO.


Sure China is up to it. Sure they don't look fake, but anyway that is not my point.

My point is that, when dealing with this kind of issues on the internet, we should never believe any information without having the proper and checkable source.

This picture could be 10 years old, or from North Korea, or from a movie. Or they could be real. As long as I don't have more info, I won't do any comment on them.

This said, I am ready to debate human rights in China, an issue that is unfortunately often forgotten by our political leaders when they visist this new capitalist paradise.