first off screw David Duke. However that doesn't mean he might not have a point from time to time...


Imagine if Britain had reason to believe that one of the fugitive suspects in the subway bombings in the United Kingdom planned to secretly meet some relatives who would be at a crowded, public community Christian festival in Silver Spring Maryland.

Britain then used one of their attack Nuclear Subs in the Atlantic to target the Christian Festival at the time they thought the suspect would be there.

Imagine Britain then launched a missile with a powerful explosive warhead against a yearly Christian festival at the Silver Spring Maryland Community Center. Suppose that at least 18 Americans, including many women and children, died in the explosions and perhaps between 50 and 100 innocent Americans endured terrible injuries.

How would Americans react?

http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/366968.php
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Deadly U.S. Attack in Pakistan Targets Al Qaeda No. 2; Pakistan Says He Wasn't There
From The Associated Press
Pakistan today condemned a purported CIA airstrike that officials said unsuccessfully targeted Al Qaeda's No. 2 man while killing at least 17 people in a village near the Afghan border.

In a strain on the U.S.-Pakistan alliance in the war on terrorism, Pakistani frustrations appeared to be growing over a series of attacks along the frontier that have not been explained but are widely suspected of targeting Islamic militants.

Pakistan, which has tens of thousands of its own forces hunting Al Qaeda militants, says it won't let any U.S. forces in Afghanistan cross the border in pursuit of terror suspects or open fire into Pakistan.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-011406pakistan_wr,0,1362845.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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Funny that even the LA Times (one that I will tell you tends to be liberal, unlike most of the media) must mention the target in the headlines to try and defer claims of terrorism against the US. I don't remember any papers with "Deadly Al Q attack targets US government, destroys buildings"...

So then everyone would think it OK for a suicide bomber to take out a church picnic in Podunk, AR. so ong as he thought someone important might be there?

Oh yes, I thought it was great.

OK, believe it or not, I agree with you. There's no way in hell we'd think of doing this if he had been hanging out in a restaurant in India, but the rural part of Pakistan is okey dokey, I guess.

the rural part of pakistan is where these guys hang out.

There is no doubt that Pakistan new abut & gave the ok for that attack. Of course now they have to say the didn't know & protest - for the image at home.

Only innocent civilians?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigat...ory?id=1517986

Jan. 18, 2006 — ABC News has learned that Pakistani officials now believe that al Qaeda's master bomb maker and chemical weapons expert was one of the men killed in last week's U.S. missile attack in eastern Pakistan...

Pakistani officials also said that Khalid Habib, the al Qaeda operations chief for Pakistan and Afghanistan, and Abdul Rehman al Magrabi, a senior operations commander for al Qaeda, were killed in the Damadola attack. Authorities tell ABC News that the terror summit was called to funnel new money into attacks against U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

"Pakistani intelligence says this was a very important planning session involving the very top levels of al Qaeda as they get ready for a new spring offensive," explained Alexis Debat, a former official in the French Defense Ministry and now an ABC News consultant.

So you care nothing about the murder of 18 innocent people, many of which were children?

Shit happens

Forget it 500. The U.S. doesn't really give a shit about people in other countries. If it were fifty civilians, you'd get the same apathetic shrugs. I think they'd have to kill two hundred for people to even glance away from dinner to admire the blonde news reporter. Three hundred might elicit a "That's a shame."

A towelhead's a towelhead, after all.

500 and his kind should all band together and create a utopian society on an island someplace. That's the only way they'd be happy.

Sure 18 civilians dying is not a positive, but neither is 3000 in the twin towers. OBL and his crew should have considered that before they hatched their plan, those 18 people would still be alive. If the US rules out collateral damage then they win. It's that simple, because they don't give 2 shits about collateral damage beyond wanting to create as much of it as possible. Life is tough.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
So you care nothing about the murder of 18 innocent people, many of which were children?

And what leads you to beleive they are innocent? The bad guys are meeting at one of their supporters houses to plot new murder and mayhem. Do you honestly believe that it was only joe down the road who dropped by for a steak and a beer who got caught up in this? What kind of Alice in Wonderland scenario is that?

All within become legitimate targets. The only innocents you can make a case for would be the kids but whose fault is that?

Sure 18 civilians dying is not a positive, but neither is 3000 in the twin towers. OBL and his crew should have considered that before they hatched their plan, those 18 people would still be alive. If the US rules out collateral damage then they win. It's that simple, because they don't give 2 shits about collateral damage beyond wanting to create as much of it as possible. Life is tough. And you should go join up with Osama since you 2 are so morally aligned. He sees no problem in murdering innocent people (as collateral damage) either. Nice you you to try and blame Osama for this one too.

So if 3 guys violently rob a bank then hole up and take 10 hostages the police have every right to just demolish the building? Would you say they are directly responsible for all thsoe deaths even though they didn't directly kill a single person? "but think of all the people they may have killed" I can hear you saying now. Your position is weak and your nothing more then a terrorist sympathizer.

And what leads you to beleive they are innocent? The bad guys are meeting at one of their supporters houses to plot new murder and mayhem. Do you honestly believe that it was only joe down the road who dropped by for a steak and a beer who got caught up in this? What kind of Alice in Wonderland scenario is that? Have you never been to a party before? You seem to think that everyone must know everyone else and approve of any illegal actions that may take place. time for another analogy:

Is it OK for the cops to arrest every person at a party because 2 people were found doing coke in the bathroom?

You assholes and your collective punishment sicken me. You are using the same rhetoric and actions as the terrorists you suppossedly want to fight.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Is it OK for the cops to arrest every person at a party because 2 people were found doing coke in the bathroom?

You assholes and your collective punishment sicken me. You are using the same rhetoric and actions as the terrorists you suppossedly want to fight.

But it is OK for a mob to burn down the house of a police officer that wasn't present at the death of a prisoner?

Are you suggesting we shouldnt bomb Christian Festivals.I wouldnt say I agree or disagree with the bombing,but I will say this,whenever America hits anybody,it dosnt fuck around,you know youve been hit.