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Red
12-31-2005, 12:42 AM
Was my thread closed ???

By all means Moderate the dirty language and filthy replys,,,,,,but this thread did not deserve to be closed !!

Is the Pope the Moderator on the chat board here ???

:mad:

Napsterbater
12-31-2005, 12:46 AM
Hey! I want to know too!

Red
12-31-2005, 12:48 AM
I was just gettin ready to tell my story too......

;)

Napsterbater
12-31-2005, 12:51 AM
No one's stopping you...

Red
12-31-2005, 12:59 AM
Hey........

If these storys shut the thread down,my story would get me Banned......

I shall wait for my reply from the powers that be 1st..........

:cool:

Napsterbater
12-31-2005, 01:19 AM
PM it to me, then.

Frogger
12-31-2005, 06:40 AM
I guess those seventeen year olds got too hot and bothered reading about old people sex.

Red, since I posted my most embarrassing moment I guess you will have to pm me yours.

Vilepagan
12-31-2005, 07:37 AM
Yes, I closed the thread.

It was done because we do have members that are minors, and because I feel Chat Central isn't really the appropriate place for a discussion of this type. I had a short discussion with Drew several months ago where I suggested the creation of an adult forum, where such things could be discussed. He balked at the idea and expressed his feeling that he didn't want Allforums to be an adult site. With that in mind I thought it best to close the thread.

I'm not really concerned with our members who are 15, 16, and 17, but we have had members as young as 12 sign up here and I think perhaps this kind of discussion might be a bit much for a 12 year-old. It is also important to remember that guests of any age can read what's posted here on the forums.

At present, if you guys want to swap sex stories you'll have to use the PM system.

Sorry to be a wet blanket. :)

Frogger
12-31-2005, 07:58 AM
Vilepagan

Thank you for your explaination of why you closed the thread. You are completely right. I for one forgot that we often have young people post here. I should have remembered it but I did't.

I guess that is why you are a moderator.

Evakian
12-31-2005, 08:50 AM
It was only a matter of time...

slim
12-31-2005, 08:54 AM
After I told my story .....I thought twice about it ...........and was totally embarassed that I posted it .................soooooooooooooooo .......I asked defiledpagan to close the thread ..........*W*.


Slim

Vilepagan
12-31-2005, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by slim
After I told my story .....I thought twice about it ...........and was totally embarassed that I posted it .................soooooooooooooooo .......I asked defiledpagan to close the thread ..........*W*.


Slim

The SN is Vilepagan, and I received no such request from you.

BorgHunter
12-31-2005, 11:53 AM
::glances at Vilepagan:: Bloody censor.

Frogger
12-31-2005, 02:48 PM
I am against censorship in almost every one of its manifestations but I have to admit that what Vilepagan did was correct. Were this a site populated only by adults I would be calling for his bloody censorious head but since young posters have free access to the site we should all practice self control so as to not post things we wouldn't want our own young children to read. Sionce we failed to do so he stepped up to the plate and did it for us.

Evakian
12-31-2005, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
::glances at Vilepagan:: Bloody censor.

Why the contention? Vile explained why he did what he did, and it was in his jurisdiction to do so, let it be.

Napsterbater
12-31-2005, 04:14 PM
Oh, I get it. This was done for the children.

*Wanders off to look for the rogue AFA member hiding in the AllForums bushes*

Trust me, Vile, the worst that can happen when a twelve year old is exposed to sex at that age is that he starts trying to grab his schoolteacher's dick.

http://www.outpostnine.com/editorials/teacher1.html

Sex is harmless. Trying to keep kids from sex isn't.

There are a thousand places kids can go on the net to find sexual content. And most of them know how to use google. I really hate to see allForums become another Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, all because of a guy who should know better.

Stupid policies like this impact the adults far more than the kids, and do absolutely nothing to solve any social problems. You of all people should know this.

Red
01-01-2006, 12:56 AM
Thankyou for explaining that to me.....

I didnt realise children that young read these boards.......

Vilepagan
01-01-2006, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Oh, I get it. This was done for the children.

Apparently you don't get it. This was done because as far as I know, this is the way the owner of the site wants it to be...and I happen to agree with him.


Trust me, Vile, the worst that can happen when a twelve year old is exposed to sex at that age is that he starts trying to grab his schoolteacher's dick.

Do you have a lot of experience exposing 12 year-olds to sex?


Sex is harmless. Trying to keep kids from sex isn't.

I'm not trying to keep kids from sex...I'm trying to keep kids from coming here for sex.


There are a thousand places kids can go on the net to find sexual content.

And Allforums won't be one of those places.


I really hate to see allForums become another Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, all because of a guy who should know better.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.


Stupid policies like this impact the adults far more than the kids, and do absolutely nothing to solve any social problems.

Perhaps, but I wasn't attempting to solve any social problems.


You of all people should know this.

Why me "of all people"?

Vilepagan
01-01-2006, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Red
Thankyou for explaining that to me.....

Sure. :)


I didnt realise children that young read these boards.......

I suspected as much. No problem. :)

Frogger
01-01-2006, 10:28 AM
Trust me, Vile, the worst that can happen when a twelve year old is exposed to sex at that age is that he starts trying to grab his schoolteacher's dick.

That statement shows a lack of thought on your part, Nappy. Exposing children to sexual content before they are emotionally prepared to handle it is not only wrong but it can be dangerous.

Your view is dangerously close to that of N.A.M.B.L.A.

Napsterbater
01-01-2006, 02:18 PM
Apparently you don't get it. This was done because as far as I know, this is the way the owner of the site wants it to be...and I happen to agree with him.

You quibble.

Do you have a lot of experience exposing 12 year-olds to sex?

Just call me Michael Jackson.

Of course not. But children are far more durable than we often think they are, and won't become emotionally scarred from reading a couple of stories with mild sexual content. Because if they did, the human race wouldn't get past Monday night television.

And Allforums won't be one of those places.

Why in the world would they do that? If they want explicit stories of nothing but sex, they can go to literotica.com. If they want pictures, they can go to google. If they want videos, adultsins.net. These sites are easier to find on the internet than ours is. If this was ten years ago and porn was harder to find on the net I'd agree with you. But there is no point in censoring adult conversation any more because of this. It's pointless.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Probably because you've never played the game. The game absolutely rocks. It solves all the gameplay problems of the last one, and even the moral ones too. This game, unlike Vice City, brings some humanity to all the killing, and is very worthy of being called a work of art. Now all because of a few pixellated boobies, and, HOLY SHIT, some chick riding on a man's crotch, (I wonder how long you have to watch prime time TV to see that these days) it's made out to be the worst thing since Ronald McDonald.

That little bit of content was absolutely nothing. And so is the stuff you are trying to censor. And you are destroying a great forum because of it.

Perhaps, but I wasn't attempting to solve any social problems.

Of course you aren't. You are trying to do your part in keeping twelve year olds from finding sex on the internet. That's pretty laughable, when you think about it.

Why me "of all people"?

Oh please tell me you remember the countless attempts by the AFA and other assorted hate organizations to keep adult content out of the hands of adults "for the children?" You of all people should realize that attempting to censor speech in this day and age is a pointless and futile endeavour, and it only affects the people who are interested in it.

That statement shows a lack of thought on your part, Nappy. Exposing children to sexual content before they are emotionally prepared to handle it is not only wrong but it can be dangerous.

Your view is dangerously close to that of N.A.M.B.L.A.

You should have clicked the link, Frogger. Then you would have realised that it was my attempt to bring a little levity into the conversation.

And I am not going to sit here and try to defend accusations of pedophilia, or even that I am defending it. I am just going to tell you you are stupid to think so.

Frogger
01-01-2006, 02:31 PM
You should have clicked the link, Frogger. Then you would have realised that it was my attempt to bring a little levity into the conversation.

And I am not going to sit here and try to defend accusations of pedophilia, or even that I am defending it. I am just going to tell you you are stupid to think so.

I wasn't suggesting that you are into pedophilia, or defending it, just that N.A.M.B.L.A. would agree with you when you say sex isn't dangerous for twelve year olds. Sometimes we view things from one perspective that others view from a different perspective. You see Vilepagan as censoring sexual content that probably wouldn't harm twelve year olds. Others can see twelve year olds as not being harmed by sex in other aspects. Vilepagan erred on the side of protecting children and he was right to do so.

Napsterbater
01-01-2006, 02:39 PM
By even bringing them up, you are attempting to lump me in with that bunch of losers.

Listen, for every standpoint, there is always a bunch of wackos out there who take it to the extreme. NAMBLA has absolutely no bearing on this conversation, and I would appreciate it if you left the scare tactics out of a rational conversation.

I am not taking the standpoint that sex is healthy for little kids. I am saying that if a little bit does hurt, then damn, we are fucked as a nation. And that there is no need to be concerned with this. Vile is not right to err on the side of security. Those who would give up liberty for a little security deserves neither, to quote Frankie. This is a public forum. It should adhere to the principles of democracy.

LionelHutz
01-01-2006, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
This is a public forum. It should adhere to the principles of democracy.

No it's not, it's a private forum. Kind of like a mall, in that everyone's invited, but as private property, the owner has the right to make the rules and boot out whoever he wants to.

Napsterbater
01-01-2006, 11:25 PM
It is a public forum in that the public is allowed to come in and post. A mall is a public place. If we go by property definitions, then there is no such thing as a public forum.

Vilepagan
01-02-2006, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
It is a public forum in that the public is allowed to come in and post.

As long as the public follows the rules.


A mall is a public place.

A mall is a private place where the public is invited to shop, as long as they follow the rules.


If we go by property definitions, then there is no such thing as a public forum.

A public forum only exists on public property...Allforums is not public property.

Vilepagan
01-02-2006, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
You quibble.

And you seem unable to understand the difference between doing something "to protect the children" and doing something "becuase that's the way the owner of the site wants it".


Why in the world would they do that? If they want explicit stories of nothing but sex, they can go to literotica.com. If they want pictures, they can go to google. If they want videos, adultsins.net.

So what you're saying is, that there's no reason for there to be any sexual content here....


These sites are easier to find on the internet than ours is. If this was ten years ago and porn was harder to find on the net I'd agree with you. But there is no point in censoring adult conversation any more because of this. It's pointless.

Unless one of your objectives is keep Allforums from turning into a sex chat room.


That little bit of content was absolutely nothing. And so is the stuff you are trying to censor.

It was enough to be inappropriate here.


And you are destroying a great forum because of it.

Perhaps not.


Of course you aren't. You are trying to do your part in keeping twelve year olds from finding sex on the internet. That's pretty laughable, when you think about it.

I find that notion pretty laughable too...of course that's not what I'm doing, but if I were it would be hilarious.


Oh please tell me you remember the countless attempts by the AFA and other assorted hate organizations to keep adult content out of the hands of adults "for the children?" You of all people should realize that attempting to censor speech in this day and age is a pointless and futile endeavour, and it only affects the people who are interested in it.


Please tell me you remember where I posted that my "censorship" was done because this is a private forum, and the owner doesn't want this to become a sex chat site.

rendova
01-02-2006, 09:15 AM
I know several kids who get on here--some younger than 10. They don't post but do read, quite a bit.
Let kids stay little as long as they can. They grow up too quickly anyway.