View Full Version : Of course, Democracy don't ACTUALLY work...
In Odder Words
12-30-2005, 11:37 PM
That's why we Americans wuz never allowed ta have one...
Just sumthin' ya'd LARN if ya'd ever graduated from Electoral College...
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Frogger
12-31-2005, 06:26 AM
Democracy, or more correctly, Direct Democracy can only work in small societies. Once a society grows to a certain size it is impossible for all citizens to meet together and vote. Even the advent of the internet would not allow the entire citizenry to vote on each and every issue. That is why we have a limited form of democracy known as Republicanism in which the citizens elect representatives to vote their interest.
500lbguerilla
12-31-2005, 01:19 PM
More relevant now more than ever...
"The difference between a Democracy and a Dictatorship is that in Democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a Dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting."
— Charles Bukowski, "Politics Is Like Trying to Screw a Cat in the Ass."
Freethinker
12-31-2005, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by In Odder Words
That's why we Americans wuz never allowed ta have one...
America is Not a Democracy
"America is not a democracy. That much was made "perfectly clear" by the Supreme Court when it first vacated the Florida Supreme Court's ruling that allowed hand recounts to go forward. There is no right to vote in the US Constitution, and the Supreme Court vacated the Florida decision on the grounds that it might depend on the right to vote in the Florida Constitution. Thus, the conservative Court majority officially ruled that democracy is unconstitutional."
"The Supreme Court made a similar point in the Dred Scott decision, when it officially ruled that African-Americans were not citizens: there are no rights in America except those recognized by the Supreme Court. This is a nation of MEN, not laws. Forget high school civics, forget the Declaration of Independence, forget the Constitution, this is raw POWER we're talking about, and whatever five schoolyard bullies say, goes."
The Dissent
Justice Stevens, joined by Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer in their dissent wrote:
"Counting every legally cast vote cannot constitute irreparable harm. On the other hand, there is a danger that a stay may cause irreparable harm to the respondents and, more importantly, the public at large because of the risk that 'the entry of the stay would be tantamount to a decision on the merits in favor of the applicants'.... Preventing the recount from being completed will inevitably cast a cloud on the legitimacy of the election."
"Forget December 7. From now on, December 9 (2000) will be remembered as the day that shall live in infamy for all time. We're no longer secretly pretending to be a democracy. From here on, it's official. The Roman emperors would be so proud! Bring on the lions! Who's first on the menu?"
And so it was to happen and George W. Bush became the president in 2000, selected by the court with its own vested interest in keeping power in the hands of the ruling elite and taking the choice away from the people. That decision was essentially a bloodless coup which was destined to change America forever, and so it has. And not only 2000, but again in 2004 it is a pretty good bet that the elections were manipulated by Republican operatives and the election stolen and even if it was not stolen (because we lack a paper trail which would be our proof) the appearance of the improprieties are so great as to leave a shadow of doubt that will forever stain democracy with an electoral system flawed and tainted by what was undeniably massive vote fraud and corruption and who can deny that, with our without a paper trail?
What happened to "Democracy of, by and for the people?
http://pnews.org/ArT/FaC/CoN.shtml
In Odder Words
12-31-2005, 02:57 PM
Many, MANY thankz fer all who chose ta give their input...
www.i-kinda-gotta-feelin',though(and-it-hurtz-ta-say-this)-that-the-very-idea-of-America-havin'-a-Democracy-MAY-have-been-a-sham-from-day-one.edu
www.in-odder-words,that-"special relationship"-we've-had-with-england-fer-so-long-may-not-have-ACTUALLY-been-a-"Bye! George!,by-george.edu
Jest ponderin', is all...
;)