The old girl is back in the news again:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051206/ap_on_sc/titanic_find

It appears from this latest find that she may have sank faster than previously thought.
Aslo, check out Dr Ballard"s gracious remarks at the end of this story. (He's the guy who first discovered the wreckage, and has guarded it jealously ever since--like the ship was HIS).

What's he so grumpy about?
This new theory makes sense to me.

And in the end, the boat still sank. No new findings there. Next story please.

Well, I'm a Titanic buff. Everything about this story fascinates me and has for a long time.
I would say that this is still one of the biggest news stories of all time. And it was so unnecessary..... so stupid. Lawsuit city nowadays for sure.
In many ways, I kinda wish i could have sailed on the old girl. If you're gonna go, you may as well go out in style, and be famous.

Yeh, it would be a crap load of fun to freeze to death in ice cold water.

where's your sense of fun, mad dog??:)

I've been following stories of the ill-fated Titanic for decades. This latest is a real surprise. If true, the legend changes today.

Yes, if she sank a lot faster, say an hour faster, this would explain why so many lifeboats left only partially filled. It would have been absolute panic on board that night.
Yet all the survivor's stories indicate that she struck the berg about 12 am and sank at around 2. What gives?

Makes you wonder if anybody stopped, amid the peril and confusion, to check their watches and check the time.

Here's a link to the timetable of Titanic's SOS calls. We can get accurate times for what happened that night from this:

http://titanic.gov.ns.ca/wireless.html

If the new find indicates that she sank faster than previously thought, something wrong here......

Unless they made up the initial story of having struck an iceberg and then just happened to hit one two hours later, something so unlikely as to not even be considered, the new time frame is wrong.

Originally posted by rendova
]where's your sense of fun, mad dog??:)]

I fell into a half covered ice river once trying to make a chunk of ice float. When I jumped up and down on the ice to get it to break off from shore it split down the middle sending me into to some not so friendly water. Good thing my friend was there and was able to build a fire, we were way back in the woods. The pain that came from falling into that water was horrible, cramps etc... no fun at all. Sence then I have jumped into an ice covered pond for kicks but it was done on purpose and at a quick shot.

Isn't it funny how stories change over time, maybe the original is true and our "facts" from today are just new theorys. I would rather learn from those that were actually there then listen to someone that wasn't even born when it happened. I feel this is what causes alot of problems when someone speculates and trys to change what really happened. I wonder how much the story will change by the time my great great grandkids hear it???

I'm sorry to hear that, mad dog. That must have been a terrifying experience. Good thing your friend was around.

It would not have been a good thing to go down with that hell ship. Anyway you went was bad--drowning, freezing, dying from compression. A sad sad tragedy and STUPID.

I would have liked to have seen her in all her glory. She was beautiful even if she was a killer.

I recall what Chief Officer Wilde said about her in a letter to his wife just before they hit the Atlantic:
"I do not like this ship...she does not like people."

His body was never found.

He thought of her as alive. Maybe in a way she was. She continues to fascinate...like Ballard said, "Once she gets ahold of you, she does not let go..there is no divorcing Titanic--ever."

I agree it is an interesting time in history, I also would have loved to seen her. It's funny how humans can think we are invincible, even today we still believe we can be stronger and better then good ole mother nature.

Rendova, have you ever been to any of the TITANIC artifacts exhibits??


Soon the TITANIC will disintegrate from spores eating it over the last 90 + years.

The TITANIC has always fascinated me too. I always watch the shows of where they interviewd some of the survivors, which I do not believe any are alive anymore.

The progression of science, here, the Wireless telegraph saved the survivors.

On a lighter note, there are really only 2 modes of communication: Telephone and tel a woman!! :)

Originally posted by Rick
Rendova, have you ever been to any of the TITANIC artifacts exhibits??


Soon the TITANIC will disintegrate from spores eating it over the last 90 + years.

The TITANIC has always fascinated me too. I always watch the shows of where they interviewd some of the survivors, which I do not believe any are alive anymore.

The progression of science, here, the Wireless telegraph saved the survivors.

On a lighter note, there are really only 2 modes of communication: Telephone and tel a woman!! :)

LOL, yes, maybe they should have let Molly Brown send out those distress signals!

No, haven't been to any artifacts exhibits but would love to someday. That is history before your very eyes.

I do own a piece of coal that was brought up from the wreckage. The price was astronomical but I paid it. I wanted SOMETHING that was on board that night...I don't consider this grave-robbing. The coal didn't belong to any of the passengers--to buy a personal effect would be disrespectful. I'd dearly love to own a dish or cup from White Star Line but unfortunately I'm not Bill Gates.

I don't understand why Ballard wants nothing brought up. People want this stuff and it's a way of preserving history. Like you say, soon the ship herself will be practically gone.

Hey.. wasn't it said (and believed by many), that the Titanic was built so sturdy that God himsef couldn't sink it?

..and that, my friends, is why it sank taking all those that believed that crap with it! :(

That is indeed what the crewmember said to one of the passengers, and I'm sure that's why many thought she DID sink, as they brought down the wrath of god upon themselves with that statement.

My belief is she sank because they were going faster than they ever had throughout the enire journey, through an ice field, and after receiving numerous warningss of more ice ahead.

She was also attempting to break her sister ship Olympic's speed record for fastest crossing.

She was sank because of negligence on the captain's part, as well as Ismay's. The captain had little choice BUT to go down with the ship because of his error; Ismay escaped on a lifeboat but was finished for all time afterwards. Fitting.