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500lbguerilla
10-31-2005, 11:26 AM
So Bush has picked and uber-conservative to be the new Supreme Court Nominee.

His nickname is Scalito because his views are so skewed as to align him with the worst person on the supreme court.

This is the first rundown of his rulings I've found so here it is:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america

Particularly disturbing is this:

ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES: In Doe v. Groody, Alito agued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004]

Strip searching 10 year old girls without a warrent. Now thats Freedumb.

Freethinker
10-31-2005, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla

Strip searching 10 year old girls without a warrant. Now thats Freedumb.

IOW, it's Conservative governance in action.

saycricket
11-01-2005, 11:40 AM
I'm really very concerned about this guy. Miers was not a good choice, IMO, simply because she had no judicial experience whatsoever. I have to wonder, really, if this was a set up. Anyway, "Scalito's" rulings may very well set the rights of women, minorities and the disabled back several decades. As a woman, Roe v. Wade and the Family & Medical Leave Act are of GIANT concern to me.

I've always thougt that we needed to progress as a Country, not digress. Why is it so hard to pick a "middle of the road" candidate who will please the majority of both sides? Someone FAIR for Chrissakes? I realize that not everyone will be happy and dirt will be thrown on any candidate. However, this is the GD Supreme Court were talking about.

I agree with some of those people who posted comments on 500's link -- let the Country split for crying out loud. We're well on our way.

500lbguerilla
11-01-2005, 11:44 AM
Its all meant to be a distraction from the indictments for treason.
+++++++++++++++++

Of course, the topic of the day is the Supreme Court nomination of Samuel Alito, and the question from Roberts, was, “Scott, you said that – or the President said, repeatedly, that Harriet Miers was the best person for the job. So does that mean Alito is sloppy seconds, or what?”

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2005/10/31/publiceye/entry997460.shtml

Bwahahahaa. sloppy seconds = gold

Frogger
11-02-2005, 10:50 AM
Samuel Alito is an excellent choice for the SCOTUS. He is a highly respect judge in the Third Circuit. His opinions are reasoned and well thought out and not as doctrinaire as the left is trying to make them seem.

My youngest almost clerked for him in Newark but clerked for Mary Trump'Barry (The Donald's sister) instead. He has been hoping Alito would be picked since his name first appeared on the short list.

ConservativeMan
11-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Seems like he is pretty good and well liked where he is from. No judge on either side has said anything against him. I hope he does end up getting confirmed.

Freethinker
11-06-2005, 10:01 AM
I have read quite a bit about Alito.......he's your standard reactionary, right-wing fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman, anti-minority fuckwad.

BUT......i hope he is confirmed for one reason; maybe he will help overturn Roe v Wade, and in so doing secure the demise of the Republican Party.

Frogger
11-06-2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
I have read quite a bit about Alito.......he's your standard reactionary, right-wing fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman, anti-minority fuckwad.

BUT......i hope he is confirmed for one reason; maybe he will help overturn Roe v Wade, and in so doing secure the demise of the Republican Party.

You might have read quite a bit about Alito, but either you simply read the leftist propaganda or you didn't understand what you read. Alito has sided with the pro-abortion side in three of the four cases he ruled on.

ConservativeMan
11-06-2005, 11:51 AM
So basically what you are saying is that because he takes a stand on traditional values, he should not be confirmed?

He is against affirmative action, he thinks that corporations should be protected against lawsuits. Equal Rights is a joke because it is already guaranteed by the Constitution. He believes that Christians should not have to water down their faith because "it might offend someone", as for anti-woman I dont know about that.

He has the judicial experience that even the democrats want, he has the values that the republicans want. Values matter.

I cant wait until the Democratic Party is outlawed (lol j/k)

500lbguerilla
11-06-2005, 12:12 PM
Equal Rights is a joke because it is already guaranteed by the Constitution ummm...the Supreme court is suppossed to interpret the constitution. Thereby they control how it is applied. Alito said sexually based discrmination isn't really descimination. You post is the joke.

Freethinker
11-06-2005, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Frogger
You might have read quite a bit about Alito, but either you simply read the leftist propoganda or you didn't understand what you read. Alito has sided with the pro-abortion side in three of the four cases he ruled on.

So??

What I said previously does not contradict that.

I did not say he was pro-abortion.........I said MAYBE he will aid in getting Roe overturned.

Alito is certainly on the side of the superstitionists (iow, religionists) in this society.


In the final analysis though, even IF the Righties on the SC ever started getting serious about overturning Roe, the RepubliFascists running the show are smart enough to realize that to actually do so would be the death of the Republican Party, and moves would be made to circumvent Roe being overturned.

The RepubliFascists will of course continue POSING as if they are on the side of the people wanting abortion ended.....but in reality they would never allow it (the overturn of Roe v Wade) to happen.

Freethinker
11-06-2005, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by ConservativeMan
So basically what you are saying is that because he takes a stand on traditional values, he should not be confirmed?


No, I'm saying because he is reactionary, fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman and anti-minority he should not be confirmed.

He WILL be confirmed, of course........since it is decidely NOT in the best interests of the People to have such a person on the Supreme Court, and that's what the sheep in this country have been trained to want; the reverse of what is in their best interests.

Frogger
11-07-2005, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
So??

What I said previously does not contradict that.

I did not say he was pro-abortion.........I said MAYBE he will aid in getting Roe overturned.

MAYBE if a liberal justice is elected he will do away with private property rights. MAYBE if a liberal gets on the Supreme Court he will forbid the practice of religion in public. MAYBE a liberal member of the SCOTUS will extend the idea of abortion and say it is okay to kill a child up to the age of six months if the mother really doesn't want it.

To post MAYBE's without any evidence to support them and in fact with evidence to show the opposite is simply fatuous.

Evakian
11-07-2005, 04:56 PM
No, I'm saying because he is reactionary, fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman and anti-minority he should not be confirmed.

Have you proof of this...did he claim that he was a fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman and anti-minority?

He WILL be confirmed, of course........since it is decidely NOT in the best interests of the People to have such a person on the Supreme Court, and that's what the sheep in this country have been trained to want; the reverse of what is in their best interests.

Yes, because you can't for one second comprehend that people might actually agree with neocon viewpoints, you can't sit for one minute and say someone like Alito and others were installed in office fairly because there is no probability that the nation could ever agree with such ideas that you do not agree with because you are pontifical in all your views and America obeys you?

I did not say he was pro-abortion.........I said MAYBE he will aid in getting Roe overturned.

And he MIGHT will enforce a state religion. And if a leftist is installed they MIGHT forbid practicing of religion. Ridiculous, you act as though we have made decisions that shouldn't ever be repealed because no humans can have faults in their thinking, ever. And that the supreme court functions as a way to rule the country with absolute power.

I will look into this Alito character, and chances are he will be put in as FT said, whether for better or for worse. But there seems to be alot of tension over Miers and Alito at the time of their nominations, Bush is president and reserves the right to choose who he wants on the court. I do not recall a massive fight over Ginsberg.

Freethinker
11-07-2005, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
.....you act as though we have made decisions that shouldn't ever be repealed....And that the supreme court functions as a way to rule the country with absolute power.

Oh NO!!......persih the thought that the SC would ever function as a way to **rule the country with complete power**.

Why!!...if that were the case, they might do something like installing the loser of a presidential election as the pResident, merely because a majority of them prefered the rightwing loser over the somewhat-less-rightwing winner.

00Elf
11-07-2005, 07:09 PM
Values matter.

Define Value.

Travh20
11-08-2005, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
I have read quite a bit about Alito.......he's your standard reactionary, right-wing fundamentalist, pro-corporate, pro-religionist, anti-woman, anti-minority fuckwad.

alright!

Originally posted by Freethinker
BUT......i hope he is confirmed for one reason; maybe he will help overturn Roe v Wade, and in so doing secure the demise of the Republican Party.

since when did this entire country revolve around abortion? should we just scrap the rest of the constitution and pledge allegiance to roe vs wade?

Freethinker
11-08-2005, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
since when did this entire country revolve around abortion?

It doesn't.

But the power of the extreme rightwing pukes in Washington DOES depend on the support of the superstitionist [read; religionist] faction....and a great many of them seem to think the world revolves around the issue of abortion.

Originally posted by Travh20
should we just scrap the rest of the constitution and pledge allegiance to roe vs wade?

Not at all!!!

As I said before, my fondest wish is that the uber-conservatives WILL overturn Roe v Wade............and secure their OWN demise.

Women's rights wil be trampled, true, but the planet might last a few years longer if the RepubliFascists were no longer running things.