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Vilepagan
11-02-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by HaVoK
I'll relate nothing to him. It's right here in writing and the meaning is clear. That is, unless you see fit to censor something else i have said.
That would be up to you.
Tell me HaVok, would you think it was appropriate to call someone a faggot?
It's a word, grandma. We give our kids condoms at school and tell them to have a good time. But a word is going to cause them irreparable damage?
Please don't put words in my mouth. Do you think your language was appropriate?
Of course this crude, vulgar joke wouldnt have the same impact on someone like you.
Quite true. Not being a christian, I'm sure I find the comment less offensive than you do.
You're an atheist, like all your mod brethren.
Shhh...it's a secret conspiracy.
I guess i used the word to get the reaction I wanted. I wanted someone to respond to it. Just didnt know the PC police would get involved and censor a simple word.
I would say that you were mistaken on several points.
I guess here at allforums, with their PC police, you only censor words that offend you personally.
I understand that you would prefer that I only censor things that you find offensive, but that's not within the realm of reality.
Then I'll try once again since you either cant or wont understand. You deserve no pat on the back for changing Ivans dumb ass title around to where it is worded that "god is vile". I guess you think others didnt get the double entendre?
I wasn't looking for a pat on the back HaVok, I posted it to show you that your implication that I censor only christians is false. And yes, I suspected everyone got the joke.
You think christians didnt understand that you were only going through the motions with Ivan, but in the process you still managed to give a back hand slap to people of faith.
I don't think you speak for anyone but yourself, and I have no idea what your going on about here.
HaVoK
11-02-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
That would be up to you.
Tell me HaVok, would you think it was appropriate to call someone a faggot?
I find being called a faggot or calling someone a faggot much less vulgar than the joke used by the gay crusader. Hope that answers your question.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Please don't put words in my mouth. Do you think your language was appropriate? Where did i put words in your mouth. You showed that fucknutz was an acceptable word by not deleting it.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Shhh...it's a secret conspiracy.News flash. Not so secret.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I would say that you were mistaken on several points.
Of course you would. I expect no less.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I understand that you would prefer that I only censor things that you find offensive, but that's not within the realm of reality.
You have me wrong vile. I would prefer you just be consistent. Thats all. Not selective, like you are.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I wasn't looking for a pat on the back HaVok, I posted it to show you that your implication that I censor only christians is false. And yes, I suspected everyone got the joke.Its still a piss poor example. How do you get a post where you are making fun of God is evenhanded? You only toned down the poor taste post.
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I don't think you speak for anyone but yourself, and I have no idea what your going on about here. Well then, i guess there's no use beating this dead horse then. If you cant even conceive what someone would find offensive. I understand though, I'll just go somewhere and "lighten up".
Vilepagan
11-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Frogger
You edit out inappropriate language because some people might be offended by it. That was already admitted. If you feel it important to edit out words that might offend someone why do you not feel it important to be consistent and edit out words and phrases that might offend others?
If I edited out every post that might offend someone, there would be precious little to read here, and every post by Blib would be blank. :D
Frogger, I understand what you are saying, and there's no good answer to the question. I'm a person. I have my own likes, dislikes, eccentricities, preferences etc. It only stands to reason that my moderating choices will be affected by these things, as they would with any moderator. I make no claim to perfection in this area, as a matter of fact, I don't even claim to have sound judgement on the matter. :)
OD
I find it ironic and funny that most of Blib's posts are rude, mean, vulgar, offensive and show a lack of social skills but yet no one edits his posts. And he tends to side of the liberal side more-often then not. Anyone want to answer this?
This is somewhat along the same lines as what Frogger was asking, and the answer is pretty much the same. With any moderator comes a certain amount of baggage. My baggage is probably no worse than anyone else's...there's only a few words which make me wince, HaVok's choice being one of them, and if I'm in the right mood I might just edit them out.
To HaVok
At this point I would like to apologize for not PMing you about your post, and asking you to change it before I edited it. I usually do that, and I have no explanation, or excuse, for why I didn't in this case. I'm truly sorry, I was wrong.
Vilepagan
11-02-2005, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by HaVoK
I find being called a faggot or calling someone a faggot much less vulgar than the joke used by the gay crusader. Hope that answers your question.
My point exactly. You find some things more offensive than I would, and vice-versa.
Where did i put words in your mouth. You showed that fucknutz was an acceptable word by not deleting it.
And you showed your wonderful sense of christian decency by posting it repeatedly.
News flash. Not so secret.
News flash. Not a conspiracy either.
You have me wrong vile. I would prefer you just be consistent. Thats all. Not selective, like you are.
Ok. I'll try. :)
Its still a piss poor example. How do you get a post where you are making fun of God is evenhanded?
Where do you get that I was "making fun of god" in that post?
You only toned down the poor taste post.
Should I have deleted the post?
[b]
If you cant even conceive what someone would find offensive.
I've repeatedly said that I understand that people were offended by Borg's comment.
I understand though, I'll just go somewhere and "lighten up".
Okey dokey.
Blibblob
11-02-2005, 09:40 PM
LOL...look everyone. The gay crusaders life partner has come to his aid. Sorry blob..hope i didnt make you too mad, tough guy. Your tough words on the internet are sooooooooo intimidating. Glory in your anonymity. Like i said before, you're too smart to do it in the real world.
This is either the inadequacy of language, or me writing to a higher standard than my audiance can understand...
Yeah, sure. After such a warm reception it received, I can see how you would keep it posted because it's "just a joke". /sarcasm
See, in literature written and read by educated individuals, little "/sarcasm" notes are not required because word choice and context clues the reader into what is sarcasm and what isn't. If it's so easy for most others to catch sarcasm and jokes, why is it so difficult for you? I think before you try and chew somebody else out, pay more attention to the stupidities of yourself.
I find it ironic and funny that most of Blib's posts are rude, mean, vulgar, offensive and show a lack of social skills but yet no one edits his posts. And he tends to side of the liberal side more-often then not. Anyone want to answer this?
I find it funny that a conservative and a democrat are agreeing on censorship in certain cases. I don't think any posts should be edited for any reason except to remove spam. Then again, I don't moderate this board. I'm an ass and I'm not very subtle in most of my insults at those I think deserve it, however not a one of my posts has ever been written out of actual hatred. Misunderstandings of the nuances of language are not my fault, I write for an audiance slightly higher than Majority America, and if that means I get misunderstood at times, I just don't give a shit. Instead of yelling at me for using sarcasm in writing, why don't you try and improve your reading comprehension?
I find being called a faggot or calling someone a faggot much less vulgar than the joke used by the gay crusader. Hope that answers your question.
LOL. Funny, as "faggot" is a purely hatefilled term, whereas his was a joke. You don't say "Hey faggot" and claim that it was a joke. You say "Hey faggot", snear and mean disdain and hatred. Borg, he just doesn't give a damn about your religion.
News flash. Not so secret.
OH! LOL!
Well then, i guess there's no use beating this dead horse then. If you cant even conceive what someone would find offensive. I understand though, I'll just go somewhere and "lighten up".
You only know what you find offensive. You're not everybody.
rendova
11-02-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
I took your posts commending those with faith as an insult. You implied that those without faith lack courage. Glass houses...
Nah, those with no faith should fear nothing.
Seeing as how they believe they are dieties themselves.
After all, aren't they their own god?
Which might explain their arrogance, word-twisting, and defense-lawyer tactics.
Overdose
11-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Blibblob
I find it funny that a conservative and a democrat are agreeing on censorship in certain cases. I don't think any posts should be edited for any reason except to remove spam. Then again, I don't moderate this board. I'm an ass and I'm not very subtle in most of my insults at those I think deserve it, however not a one of my posts has ever been written out of actual hatred. Misunderstandings of the nuances of language are not my fault, I write for an audiance slightly higher than Majority America, and if that means I get misunderstood at times, I just don't give a shit. Instead of yelling at me for using sarcasm in writing, why don't you try and improve your reading comprehension?
You do know that this isn't a public forum, Blib? And that agreeing with censorship in cases such as a private forum is far different then those outside of a private forum. Hence why a Republican and a Democrat are agreeing.
All I am saying is that Drew has given people an option to report posts that are insulting. You are insluting. You've called people many vulgar names and since this is a private forum and since you are not allowed to say what you want and insult others you have the right to be censored. Period. You may not do it out of hatred, you may call is sarcasm, but others will find it insutling and rude. And regardless of what your intent was, many I'm sure feel insulted.
The way I've felt after some posts you've directed towards me are not the best feelings I've felt in life because you get very personal and mean spirited. And it is hard to sense "sarcasm" online (not that I believe you when you say you are really using sarcasm) I just don't believe it. And I don't think most will. I just think you are saying it as a cop out and a way to get out of being called on your rude and insulting behavior.
I think it is just a lack of creativity, maturity and social skills. If you cannot express a point without resorting to name-calling, or attacking ones intelligence it is a sad day for you indeed.
And some of the things you've said are not "sarcasm" they are down-right mean. You have a messed up view of the "sarcasm" if you think what YOU post isn't mean or hurtful.
BorgHunter
11-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by rendova
Nah, those with no faith should fear nothing.
Seeing as how they believe they are dieties themselves.
After all, aren't they their own god?
Which might explain their arrogance, word-twisting, and defense-lawyer tactics.
Wow, such ignorant generalizations I have not seen in a good, long while. Good job!
A) I no more believe myself a deity than I believe the monster under the bed is going to eat me.
B) I am not a defense lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. In fact, I have no idea what you're talking about here. Care to explain?
C) Re: Arrogance: People on every side of the fence are guilty of this one. Impossible to pin down as an "atheist" or "Christian" trait, as there are both absurdly arrogant atheists and absurdly arrogant Christians.
D) Re: Word twisting, ditto C.
Originally posted by rendova
Nah, those with no faith should fear nothing.
Seeing as how they believe they are dieties themselves.
After all, aren't they their own god? For the record I have neither religious faith nor delusion that I am a supernatural being.
HaVoK
11-03-2005, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Blibblob
I find being called a faggot or calling someone a faggot much less vulgar than the joke used by the gay crusader. Hope that answers your question.
LOL. Funny, as "faggot" is a purely hatefilled term, whereas his was a joke. You don't say "Hey faggot" and claim that it was a joke. You say "Hey faggot", snear and mean disdain and hatred. Borg, he just doesn't give a damn about your religion. First of all, i've never called anyone a faggot in anger. Second of all, luckily for you, you have never been around me in real life to know what i mean when i use most any word. Lastly, there are a few sore issues that i just dont give a fuck about in borg's life that i have been kind enough to not give comment to.
By the way brainiac, there is another definition for the word. Not that anyone was using the word in this context, but if you're going to preach to me, at least be thorough about it. It's not a "purely hate filled term" as you stated. Like many words, it depends on its usage.
Main Entry: 2fagot
Variant(s): or faggot
Function: transitive verb
: to make a fagot of : bind together into a bundle <fagoted sticks>
Originally posted by Blibblob
You only know what you find offensive. You're not everybody. I never tried to speak for everyone, only myself and maybe a few other people of faith who would find the gay crusaders post vulgar. Guess your superior intellect isnt really all that afterall. Maybe before you get up on your educated high horse you should know what the fuck you're talking about.
HaVoK
11-03-2005, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Overdose
All I am saying is that Drew has given people an option to report posts that are insulting. You are insluting. You've called people many vulgar names and since this is a private forum and since you are not allowed to say what you want and insult others you have the right to be censored. Period. You may not do it out of hatred, you may call is sarcasm, but others will find it insutling and rude. And regardless of what your intent was, many I'm sure feel insulted.
The way I've felt after some posts you've directed towards me are not the best feelings I've felt in life because you get very personal and mean spirited. And it is hard to sense "sarcasm" online (not that I believe you when you say you are really using sarcasm) I just don't believe it. And I don't think most will. I just think you are saying it as a cop out and a way to get out of being called on your rude and insulting behavior.
I think it is just a lack of creativity, maturity and social skills. If you cannot express a point without resorting to name-calling, or attacking ones intelligence it is a sad day for you indeed.
And some of the things you've said are not "sarcasm" they are down-right mean. You have a messed up view of the "sarcasm" if you think what YOU post isn't mean or hurtful. He and the moderator are bosom buddies and blib knows there will be no repercussions for his words. Hell, we all know it.
Vilepagan
11-03-2005, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by HaVoK
He and the moderator are bosom buddies and blib knows there will be no repercussions for his words. Hell, we all know it.
Considering that Blib made his post to see if I would delete it, and he removed it at my request, what repercussions do you think would be appropriate?
HaVoK
11-03-2005, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Considering that Blib made his post to see if I would delete it, and he removed it at my request, what repercussions do you think would be appropriate? I havent asked you to remove a single post from the very beginning. I simply confronted the people who made the posts that I found offensive. I also told you my opinion on your personal brand of censorship, which is no longer an issue as far as im concerned.
I hope you dont believe he was testing you with that post. He meant everything he wrote, just like his bosom buddy did with his post. It's just another convenient excuse. I guess you just want to believe.
rendova
11-03-2005, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by BorgHunter
Wow, such ignorant generalizations I have not seen in a good, long while. Good job!
A) I no more believe myself a deity than I believe the monster under the bed is going to eat me.
B) I am not a defense lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. In fact, I have no idea what you're talking about here. Care to explain?
C) Re: Arrogance: People on every side of the fence are guilty of this one. Impossible to pin down as an "atheist" or "Christian" trait, as there are both absurdly arrogant atheists and absurdly arrogant Christians.
D) Re: Word twisting, ditto C.
Why, thank you! It's always a pleasure to be called "ignorant" by those whose viewpoints are different than mine!
And, who alone, understand and presume to know the mind of god, the creation of the Universe, and the meaning of existence itself......Newton himself is a mental pygmy compared to the great thinkers on this board. The poor benighted sot had the NERVE to actually make the hilarious statement--"I was like a child at the seashore...diverting myself with a pretty shell...while the great ocean of truth lay all around me"...or, even more ignorant--"I wsih to know how God's universe works."
Have you ever READ such drivel? Dummy!
Believing yourself gods--
the ability and werewithal to insult and punish others for not believing "properly." Arrogance of the first degree, is that not so?A god-like atribute.
How DARE anyone think such heresy! BURN THEM.......
Word-twisting/defense lawyer tactics:
Surely this is self-explanatory. Anyone who can read and comprehend a sentence need only go back to the numerous posts on this thread. The trial transcript, if you will.
It would be interesting if the tableswere turned and a few people here were themselves put on trial--not for their beliefs, or lack thereof, which is not a crime, but for their various remarks and insults. In all honesty, I can't see them doing anything else than stating the time-honored cop-out "Fifth Amendment" rather than having the guts to explain their atrocious manners, much less apologize for them.
BorgHunter
11-03-2005, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by rendova
Why, thank you! It's always a pleasure to be called "ignorant" by those whose viewpoints are different than mine!
Our differing viewpoints are irrelevant. You made ignorant generalizations that do not fly for the general population of atheists.
And, who alone, understand and presume to know the mind of god, the creation of the Universe, and the meaning of existence itself......Newton himself is a mental pygmy compared to the great thinkers on this board. The poor benighted sot had the NERVE to actually make the hilarious statement--"I was like a child at the seashore...diverting myself with a pretty shell...while the great ocean of truth lay all around me"...or, even more ignorant--"I wsih to know how God's universe works."
Have you ever READ such drivel? Dummy!
Your syntax has me baffled...what?
Believing yourself gods--
the ability and werewithal to insult and punish others for not believing "properly." Arrogance of the first degree, is that not so?A god-like atribute.
How DARE anyone think such heresy! BURN THEM.......
Pardon? Who here is insulting and punishing others for "not believing properly"? I really don't care what you believe, so long as you don't try to make me believe it.
Word-twisting/defense lawyer tactics:
Surely this is self-explanatory. Anyone who can read and comprehend a sentence need only go back to the numerous posts on this thread. The trial transcript, if you will.
It would be interesting if the tableswere turned and a few people here were themselves put on trial--not for their beliefs, or lack thereof, which is not a crime, but for their various remarks and insults. In all honesty, I can't see them doing anything else than stating the time-honored cop-out "Fifth Amendment" rather than having the guts to explain their atrocious manners, much less apologize for them.
No one is on trial, except, it seems, Vile and me, as our moderating capabilities appear to have been called into question. Other than that, again, believe what you want; it's not my place to change it.
Frogger
11-03-2005, 05:37 PM
BorgHunter,
I post on quite a few boards, one of them being an atheist board and while not all atheists, or even the majority of them are mean spirited and hurtful when it comes to discussing religion, enough of them are to be highly visible.
It can even be seen on this board where people feel it is 'sarcastic' to say God can suck their dick, or to make sexual jokes about Jesus, part of the Trinity to Christians.
Being religious, God in his various manifestations is very important to us. We consider him a member of our family. When you insult God it is we feel as you would if we insulted a family member.
What would your reaction be if I said your father could suck my dick or made vile suggestions about your mother?
Since atheists do not believe in God they feel it is okay to ridicule him no matter what hurt they cause to theists. This is an infantile attitude, unworthy of people who wish to be taken seriously.
As for you and Vile being on trial, not so. I even pmd Vile thanking him for requesting the removal of the most egrigious post.
Blibblob
11-03-2005, 06:26 PM
OD's:
All I am saying is that Drew has given people an option to report posts that are insulting. You are insluting. You've called people many vulgar names and since this is a private forum and since you are not allowed to say what you want and insult others you have the right to be censored.
Report post: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.
Awww, fucking hell. I can't report you for being annoying and whiny...
Vulgar and obscene comments are subjective. It is not your decision as to what is and isn't(and I most certainly hope there's never a pansy ass democrat as a moderator editing and complaining to everybody who says "fuck"), and in order to keep the censorship down and less work for the moderators, only purely hateful comments seem to be deleted.
The way I've felt after some posts you've directed towards me are not the best feelings I've felt in life because you get very personal and mean spirited. And it is hard to sense "sarcasm" online (not that I believe you when you say you are really using sarcasm) I just don't believe it. And I don't think most will. I just think you are saying it as a cop out and a way to get out of being called on your rude and insulting behavior.
Yes, I'm a sad little boy who hates everyone and everything. I do not cater myself to those blubbering buffoons who get worked up over words said to them by complete strangers. Oh, and on the sarcasm bit, maybe you should read more. Sarcasm is not lost in the written word if you're a competent reader.
And some of the things you've said are not "sarcasm" they are down-right mean. You have a messed up view of the "sarcasm" if you think what YOU post isn't mean or hurtful.
I have never said that my comments are not mean or hurtful, I've merely said that I A)don't care and B)don't mean it.
Havok's:
First of all, i've never called anyone a faggot in anger. Second of all, luckily for you, you have never been around me in real life to know what i mean when i use most any word. Lastly, there are a few sore issues that i just dont give a fuck about in borg's life that i have been kind enough to not give comment to.
I never said anger, I said it was a hate term. We know full well how little you like homosexuals. Not just that, but I'm not gay, however I've been called a faggot so many damn times that I'd be the biggest liar if I claimed I didn't know what it meant.
By the way brainiac, there is another definition for the word.
Have fun avoiding the issue?
"Shakespeare never had six lines together without a fault. Perhaps you may find seven, but this does not refute my general assertion."
-Dr. Samuel Johnson
I never tried to speak for everyone, only myself and maybe a few other people of faith who would find the gay crusaders post vulgar. Guess your superior intellect isnt really all that afterall. Maybe before you get up on your educated high horse you should know what the fuck you're talking about.
You were attempting to censor a comment on the premise that just a couple of people are "insulted"(WAAAA WAAAAA) by it? Oh boy, doesn't your argument look even more pathetic now. In essence you were calling for the censorship of it due to its offensive nature. Guess what. It's not offensive. Hmm, that looks retarded also. Maybe it would be best served to be left there and those who get offended by it stop whining like babies and those who don't just continue not giving a flying fuck.
I hope you dont believe he was testing you with that post. He meant everything he wrote, just like his bosom buddy did with his post. It's just another convenient excuse. I guess you just want to believe.
You're a bad judge of motivation. But then again, I'm a librul and you know how we all think.
Frogger's
What would your reaction be if I said your father could suck my dick or made vile suggestions about your mother?
He'd laugh. Seriously, he would. I cannot--and oh how I've tried--come up with a joke that is actually offensive to him that invloves his dead mother, and if there are no jokes around that that offend him, I really don't think any others along those lines will.
Since atheists do not believe in God they feel it is okay to ridicule him no matter what hurt they cause to theists. This is an infantile attitude, unworthy of people who wish to be taken seriously.
I think it's more along the lines that because we don't think being offended is such a terrible transgression we try and limit ourselves to prevent that. I don't think taking offense to a comment is good enough justification to prevent that comment from being made.
Frogger
11-03-2005, 06:32 PM
posted by Blibblob
Oh, and on the sarcasm bit, maybe you should read more. Sarcasm is not lost in the written word if you're a competent reader.
Or, more importantly, if you're a competent writer.:lolhit:
Blibblob
11-03-2005, 06:43 PM
Or, more importantly, if you're a competent writer.
Took somebody long enough to say that!
Touché. Though all of my english teachers, my AP test score and SAT score on the essay would say that I'm better then competent.
:D
HaVoK
11-03-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Blibblob
Have fun avoiding the issue?
"Shakespeare never had six lines together without a fault. Perhaps you may find seven, but this does not refute my general assertion."
-Dr. Samuel Johnson Not avoiding the issue at all. Just putting you in your place where you belong. I guess you forgot that you said faggot was a "purely hate filled term". I simply proved you wrong. I also answered your questions to the best of my ability.
Originally posted by Blibblob
You were attempting to censor a comment on the premise that just a couple of people are "insulted"(WAAAA WAAAAA) by it? Oh boy, doesn't your argument look even more pathetic now. In essence you were calling for the censorship of it due to its offensive nature. Guess what. It's not offensive. Hmm, that looks retarded also. Maybe it would be best served to be left there and those who get offended by it stop whining like babies and those who don't just continue not giving a flying fuck. Wrong fucknutz. I never called for anyone to be censored. If you had remedial comprehension skills you would know this. I questioned why I was censored and no one else. I cant believe you are this fucking dumb blib. You seem to think you're not.
Originally posted by Blibblob
You're a bad judge of motivation. But then again, I'm a librul and you know how we all think.It's not that hard to guess if anyone reads your posts. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You probably are a liar. So I should not presume to know what you mean at all.
Vilepagan
11-03-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by HaVoK
Wrong fucknutz. I never called for anyone to be censored.
Of course if you had, the irony would prove fatal to us all. :D
Blibblob
11-03-2005, 07:36 PM
Not avoiding the issue at all. Just putting you in your place where you belong. I guess you forgot that you said faggot was a "purely hate filled term". I simply proved you wrong. I also answered your questions to the best of my ability.
Again with the idiocy, will it never end?
Avoid my argument, resort to attacking the wording!
"Shakespeare never had six lines together without a fault. Perhaps you may find seven, but this does not refute my general assertion."
-Dr. Samuel Johnson
Wrong fucknutz. I never called for anyone to be censored. If you had remedial comprehension skills you would know this. I questioned why I was censored and no one else. I cant believe you are this fucking dumb blib. You seem to think you're not.
Ah, word wise you never did, however the entire time you were calling for either borg to remove it or for Vile to no longer be "selective" in his censorship.
Let us examine some choice quotes:
If you want to tell a joke, take it to the humor forum. Thats not what that was about though. We both know it. So play it off. You can, its not like this is the real world. Just anonymous posters on the internet.
Let us examine that one with another one made a bit later on:
You knew what you were doing when you intially posted your filth, fucknutz. Dont look for me to beg you not to post your trash.
Awww, damn. I guess we'll let the whining and the contradictions slide.
Yeah, sure. After such a warm reception it received, I can see how you would keep it posted because it's "just a joke". /sarcasm
Did you just say that it should have been removed? Aren't you claiming that you never actually advocated that?
You have me wrong vile. I would prefer you just be consistent. Thats all. Not selective, like you are.
Oh... right. "I'm not saying that it should be removed, just that you should remove it like you remove everything else."
Tying in with one a bit earlier:
However you try to spin it Vile, its selective censorship. To this very post, no one has censored the poor attempt at a joke the gay crusader used.
Whoops, I guess you weren't supposed to say that.
It's not that hard to guess if anyone reads your posts. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You probably are a liar. So I should not presume to know what you mean at all.
Oh, so I'm a liar. Well, sometimes that's better than being a complete fucking retard. Your absolutely idiotic statements about the selection of the moderators is on par with freethinker and 500lbguerilla's ramblings. Whoops, that's right, all you conservatives are infinitely smarter than those nutcase idiotic libruls and are free to make downright moronic assertions. Fucktard.
Frogger
11-03-2005, 07:45 PM
I doubt that you are a liar, Bllibblob, but you are incredibly immature. You mistake crudity and nastiness for sarcasm and post with the aim of hurting other posters.
Judging from your posting style, you are probably quite young and filled with angst so there is always hope that you will grow up.
I guess that in the meantime people will just have to put up with you as they would with an unruly child who happens to be in attendance at an adult function.
Lokideviluk
11-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Frogger
I doubt that you are a liar, Bllibblob, but you are incredibly immature. You mistake crudity and nastiness for sarcasm and post with the aim of hurting other posters.
Judging from your posting style, you are probably quite young and filled with angst so there is always hope that you will grow up.
I guess that in the meantime people will just have to put up with you as they would with an unruly child who happens to be in attendance at an adult function.
In reply though Frogger, knowing full well how Blib has responded to previous posts, your comments above are written knowing full well he will bite which leaves me to wonder at your intentions?
Unless you were aiming for reverse pyscology it seems apparent you were simply attempting to annoy him further?
Frogger
11-03-2005, 08:01 PM
No, no rerverse psychology. I was just calling it as I see it.
The angry young man spitting at the world as some show of force is just something most people outgrow eventually. Hopefully Blibblob will too.
As for his biting me................what can he do, call me names? This is the internet, not Thunderdome. If he feels it necessary to respond to my post with vileness that will just further prove my point.
Blibblob
11-03-2005, 09:14 PM
I doubt that you are a liar, Bllibblob, but you are incredibly immature. You mistake crudity and nastiness for sarcasm and post with the aim of hurting other posters.
Oh yes, I aim to hurt people I do not know or care about. I'll call you as you are instead of pussy-stepping around using idiotic euphemisms. Old man debate of the style you're asking for is dull. The only reason fun during debate becomes a distraction is when oversensitive and whiny individuals such as yourself brood on that issue instead of what is actually being debated.
Judging from your posting style, you are probably quite young and filled with angst so there is always hope that you will grow up.
Booga wooga! I'm angsty! Now I must write in my livejournal about how mean you people are! You evil asshats! *Slices wrists*
:rolleyes:I'm such an angry little boy.
I guess that in the meantime people will just have to put up with you as they would with an unruly child who happens to be in attendance at an adult function.
An adult function? You over-the-hill geezers are complaining about a joke. Give me a fucking break.
In reply though Frogger, knowing full well how Blib has responded to previous posts, your comments above are written knowing full well he will bite which leaves me to wonder at your intentions?
They were not written in an inciting manner at all except for that last bit. Nor am I annoyed. Although you may find me irritable if anyone ever mentions how much better old people are then the younger because of this fabricated concept of "maturity"--which is quite hypocritical if you actually examine what it is they complain about most of the time.
The angry young man spitting at the world as some show of force is just something most people outgrow eventually. Hopefully Blibblob will too.
Grrrrrr. I spit at you and bite my thumb too!
Napsterbater
11-03-2005, 09:54 PM
The angry young man spitting at the world as some show of force is just something most people outgrow eventually. Hopefully Blibblob will too.
Quit acting like you know everything about those younger than you.
BorgHunter
11-04-2005, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Frogger
What would your reaction be if I said your father could suck my dick or made vile suggestions about your mother?
Blib's right. I really wouldn't care. Hell, make jokes and innuendo about my girlfriend or my best friend (who is also on Allforums; no, not Blib), and I would laugh. They're just words, man. They can only affect you if you allow them to.
Judging from your posting style, you are probably quite young and filled with angst so there is always hope that you will grow up.
Judging from the little thing next to every one of his posts that says "Age: 17"...
I guess that in the meantime people will just have to put up with you as they would with an unruly child who happens to be in attendance at an adult function.
Alas, this so-called "adult function" is admined by a 17-year-old! (That is to say, me.)
Overdose
11-04-2005, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Blibblob
Awww, fucking hell. I can't report you for being annoying and whiny...
There you go. Making fun of people, insulting them and proving my point. This would in most people's opinions be considered rude. But since you are blinded by your own ego, you will only see it as "sarcasm" or funny...
Originally posted by Blibblob
Vulgar and obscene comments are subjective. It is not your decision as to what is and isn't(and I most certainly hope there's never a pansy ass democrat as a moderator editing and complaining to everybody who says "fuck"), and in order to keep the censorship down and less work for the moderators, only purely hateful comments seem to be deleted.
I'm sure any vulgar and obscene comments would fall under the lines of harassment and rude comments. And no, I don't care if you say "fuck" or things such as that. But when you talk about people and how they are "fucking retards" etc. etc. etc. than that should be deleted. Oh and thanks for the personal attack "pansy ass democrat"...proving my point yet again. You resort to personal attacks because you are very immature.
Originally posted by Blibblob
Yes, I'm a sad little boy who hates everyone and everything.
From the looks of it you are. And if you just act this way online, maybe you are having issuse in your real life and you can only express them online because you feel safe behind a screen.
Originally posted by Blibblob
I do not cater myself to those blubbering buffoons who get worked up over words said to them by complete strangers.
"blubbering buffoons", how nice of you.
Originally posted by Blibblob
I have never said that my comments are not mean or hurtful, I've merely said that I A)don't care and B)don't mean it.
I'm glad you admit to being a hurtful, mean, person, Blibblob. And I hope you get far in life, because I don't know where you live, but if you were to go downtown Portland and act like that towards some of the street punks I know you'd be bleeding on the ground so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. And if you don't mean what you say, why say it? You aren't being funny and you are hurting people in the process. And you are making people not listen to what you have to say because it is so in-tangled in hurtful comments. You make yourself look as if you are lacking social skills and are resorting to childish antics. Basically making yourself look like a mean spirited human. Not that I think you care what I have to say, but all of what I say is true. You are mean, rude, and hurtful.
Your replies are funny. You mock people for telling you, you are mean. And the reason you do this is because you have no defense for your actions and you are afraid if you admit that saying things that are hurtful is wrong, you will appear weak and incorrect. That is the one thing that I can see scares you. Being wrong (although you will argue with me and tell me I'm incorrect, but deep down, under all of your mean posts, you know I'm correct) And if you were to actually admit you should try and work towards not being so mean, it would destory your identity. It would destory you as a whole. Because that is what you live off of, feed off of and get a thrill off of. Being mean. And if you admit that this is wrong, or you shouldn't do it, what do you have left?
I guess it is your way to feel good about yourself, and that is one of the sickest things to enjoy. But if you do, keep going. You'll only destory yourself in the end.
Frogger
11-04-2005, 10:21 AM
BorgHunter,
First off, I don't see anything beside his posts saying he is seventeen. Maybe I am missing it but his posting style says he is emotionally more like a young fifteen.
It is not a function of age but maturity. Many of the posters here are young and they don't feel it necessary to be verbally pugnacious all the time.
The fact that Blibblob is young is neither here nor there. The fact that he is immature is.
Lokideviluk
11-04-2005, 10:59 AM
Frogger does the forum look Orange to you?
Napsterbater
11-04-2005, 11:05 AM
Frogger does the forum look Orange to you?
Holy shit! Loki, you just earned some respect from me. That was great! LMAO LMAO :D
It seems that the hardest thing for us to do is examine ourselves.
It is so easy to cast opinions about others.
One never knows what another is dealing with in this life that forms their temporary outlook and actions.
One of the worst arguments that I ever got into at Gulf Coast College was with a psychology professor that would not accept my view that people are in different stages through-out their life.
It was over the I am o.k, you are o.k.-I am not o.k, you are o.k,
You are not o.k, I am o.k-discussion. She wanted to permanently brand individuals into certain classifications.
She finally closed her books of handed down information and marched out, promising never to enter that classroom again.
I have had the enjoyment of being a member of this forum for a while and have seen the different sides of individuals at different times.
Collectively there is a lot of knowledge and ideas here. All types of personalities, such is life, in general.
Be careful not to alienate yourselves, one from another. Time brings changes in knowledge and attitudes.
Have a good day: ;)
Evakian
11-04-2005, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Frogger
First off, I don't see anything beside his posts saying he is seventeen.
Now Nap, i don't see how Loki's comment is funny...but if Allforums is appearing orange to you Frogger, that can be changed to a more aesthetically pleasing format that is much better than the orange one.
To change it, go to USER CP->Edit Options->(scroll down towards bottom and)find Style Set-> (select)RavioskinBLUE->'submit modifications'
Now the site should be nicer to visit :)
Where's sevenstarhand buggered off to?
I'm awaiting him to come back and announce "all this arguing in this thread was intended and engineered by me to prove that I am the reincarnation of Elvis Presley" or something.
Frogger
11-04-2005, 07:48 PM
I see the screen just fine, thank you. It is a pleasant combination of pale yellow and grey.
It is so nice to know that you are concerned about my viewing comfort Loki. Thanks.
Here's a hug.
http://cybergifs.com/faces/hug.gif
Napsterbater
11-04-2005, 10:16 PM
Maybe I am missing it but his posting style says he is emotionally more like a young fifteen.
Many of the posters here are young and they don't feel it necessary to be verbally pugnacious all the time.
The fact that he is immature is.
I think you need the hug, Frogger.
rendova
11-05-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Blob
Where's sevenstarhand buggered off to?
I'm awaiting him to come back and announce "all this arguing in this thread was intended and engineered by me to prove that I am the reincarnation of Elvis Presley" or something.
I kinda miss the little scudder myself. He's pretty good at stirring things up, and no one could call him boring!
Frogger
11-05-2005, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
I think you need the hug, Frogger.
So! Where's my hug?
Originally posted by rendova
I kinda miss the little scudder myself. He's pretty good at stirring things up, and no one could call him boring! I know what you mean. In general the hit-and-run cranks and prosletysers that come along do us a service of keeping the forum going. We regulars are over-familiar with one another and we all just start the same old squabbles when left to our own devices (this thread being a case in point).
Lokideviluk
11-05-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Blob
We regulars are over-familiar with one another and we all just start the same old squabbles when left to our own devices (this thread being a case in point).
Its like being married to all of you
Evakian
11-05-2005, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Lokideviluk
Its like being married to all of you
Kinky
Frogger
11-05-2005, 12:39 PM
I just happened upon this site while web surfing. You seem to have a couple thousand people who have managed to find you but only about a score who regularly post.
Evakian
11-05-2005, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Frogger
I just happened upon this site while web surfing. You seem to have a couple thousand people who have managed to find you but only about a score who regularly post.
People come and go quickly after they make a free account, advertise their site, and leave.
Then there are people that are busy and do not manage to come debate regularly, i most assuredly am not one of them :p, but we've a sizable portion of members.
Napsterbater
11-05-2005, 04:45 PM
I think you need the hug, Frogger.
*mock Russian accent*
No hug for you!
Frogger
11-05-2005, 06:19 PM
No hug for me.
Oh, no!!!!!!!!
http://cybergifs.com/faces/cryingsmiley.gif
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Evakian
[B]People come and go quickly after they make a free account, advertise their site, and leave.Quote.
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Seems like some people travel around to various sites looking for people that agree with everything they say.
They are apt to be a bit disappointed here.
BorgHunter
11-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
*mock Russian accent*
No hug for you!
In Soviet Russia, hug gives you!
Napsterbater
11-06-2005, 07:19 AM
I wanted to make a Soviet Russia joke, but a really funny one wasn't evident.
Frogger
11-07-2005, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
I wanted to make a Soviet Russia joke, but a really funny one wasn't evident.
Soviet Russia was itself a joke. A joke that no longer exists.
Lokideviluk
11-07-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Frogger
Soviet Russia was itself a joke. A joke that no longer exists.
Awww come on, they have the best accent in the world.
"Welcome to mother russia comrade"
Genius :D
Napsterbater
11-07-2005, 12:04 PM
Soviet Russia was itself a joke. A joke that no longer exists.
In Soviet Russia, joke is you.
Frogger
11-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
In Soviet Russia, joke is you.
I'm still here. Soviet Russia isn't.
But glorius atheistic North Korea still offers hope for a future utopia dominated by a monolithic godless regime. That's what I actively campaign for in my life.
Long live dear leader Kim Jung Il comrades!
Napsterbater
11-08-2005, 04:24 AM
Despots rule!
Evakian
11-08-2005, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Blob
But glorius atheistic North Korea still offers hope for a future utopia dominated by a monolithic godless regime. That's what I actively campaign for in my life.
You wish to deprive people of happiness and freedom in their personal life decisions?
Long live dear leader Kim Jung Il comrades!
;)
Originally posted by Evakian
You wish to deprive people of happiness and freedom in their personal life decisions? A small price to pay for having my personal views deemed absolute, pure truth and forcibly imposed on all of mankind.
Evakian
11-08-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Blob
A small price to pay for having my personal views deemed absolute, pure truth and forcibly imposed on all of mankind.
Hooray for dictatorship! :p
Its not bad when you are the dictator. Except for constantly looking over your shoulder and wondering who around you will betray you.
A necessarily paranoid position.
Then again, just kill until you get the right one.
Napsterbater
11-13-2005, 05:54 PM
A necessarily paranoid position.
Not unless you follow this advice! You just have to be smart.
My Legions of Terror will have helmets with clear Plexiglas visors, not face concealing ones.
Shooting is not too good for my enemies.
I will not gloat over my enemies predicament before killing them.
I will hire a fashion designer to create original uniforms for my Legion of Terror, as opposed to some cheap knock-offs that make them look like Nazi stormtroopers, Roman foot soldiers, or savage Mongol hordes. All were eventually defeated and I want my troops to have a more positive mind-set.
I will not fly into a rage and kill a messenger who brings me bad news just to illustrate how evil I really am. Good messengers are hard to come by.
http://www.proft.org/tips/evil.html