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Tapeworm
09-28-2005, 01:50 PM
DeLay indicted in campaign finance probe
House majority leader to step down, 2 associates also face charges

BREAKING NEWS

Updated: 2:05 p.m. ET Sept. 28, 2005
WASHINGTON - A Texas grand jury on Wednesday charged Rep. Tom DeLay and two political associates with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme, forcing the House majority leader to temporarily relinquish his post.
DeLay, 58, was accused of a criminal conspiracy along with two associates, John Colyandro, former executive director of a Texas political action committee formed by DeLay, and Jim Ellis, who heads DeLay’s national political committee.
“I have notified the speaker that I will temporarily step aside from my position as majority leader pursuant to rules of the House Republican Conference and the actions of the Travis County district attorney today,” DeLay said in a statement.

GOP congressional officials said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., will recommend that Rep. David Dreier of California step into those duties. Some of the duties may go to the GOP whip, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri. The Republican rank and file may meet as early as Wednesday night to act on Hastert’s recommendation.
Up to two years, $10,000 fine
Criminal conspiracy is a state felony punishable by six months to two years in a state jail and a fine of up to $10,000. The potential two-year sentence forces DeLay to step down under House Republican rules.
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the president still considers DeLay a friend and effective leader in Congress.
“Congressman DeLay is a good ally, a leader who we have worked closely with to get things done for the American people,” McClellan said. “I think the president’s view is that we need to let the legal process work.”

The indictment accused DeLay of a conspiracy to “knowingly make a political contribution” in violation of Texas law outlawing corporate contributions. It alleged that DeLay’s Texans for a Republican Majority political action committee accepted $155,000 from companies, including Sears Roebuck, and placed the money in an account.
The PAC then wrote a $190,000 check to an arm of the Republican National Committee and provided the committee a document with the names of Texas State House candidates and the amounts they were supposed to received in donations.
The indictment included a copy of the check.
“The defendants entered into an agreement with each other or with TRMPAC (Texans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee) to make a political contribution in violation of the Texas election code,” says the four-page indictment. “The contribution was made directly to the Republican National Committee within 60 days of a general election.”

'Political retribution'

The indictment against the second-ranking, and most assertive Republican leader came on the final day of the grand jury’s term. It followed earlier indictments of a state political action committee founded by DeLay and three of his political associates.
Kevin Madden, DeLay’s spokesman, dismissed the charge as politically motivated.
“This indictment is nothing more than prosecutorial retribution by a partisan Democrat,” Madden said, citing prosecutor Ronnie Earle, a Democrat.
Madden later added: “They could not get Tom DeLay at the polls. They could not get Mr. DeLay on the House floor. Now they’re trying to get him into the courtroom. This is not going to detract from the Republican agenda.”

The grand jury action is expected to have immediate consequences in the House, where DeLay is largely responsible for winning passage of the Republican legislative program. House Republican Party rules require leaders who are indicted to temporarily step aside from their leadership posts.
However, DeLay retains his seat representing Texas’ 22nd congressional district, suburbs southwest of Houston. He denies that he committed any crime.

Democrats stay on the case
DeLay is the third member of Congress to be indicted since 1996. Former Rep. William Janklow, R-S.D., was convicted of vehicular homicide and sentenced to 100 days in prison after his car struck and killed a motorcyclist in 2003. Former Rep. James Traficant, D-Ohio, was sentenced to eight years in prison after being convicted on charges from a 2001 indictment accusing him of racketeering and accepting bribes.

Democrats have kept up a crescendo of criticism of DeLay’s ethics, citing three times last year that the House ethics committee admonished DeLay for his conduct.
“The criminal indictment of Majority Leader Tom Delay is the latest example that Republicans in Congress are plagued by a culture of corruption at the expense of the American people,” said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

As a sign of loyalty to DeLay after the grand jury returned indictments against three of his associates, House Republicans last November repealed a rule requiring any of their leaders to step aside if indicted. The rule was reinstituted in January after lawmakers returned to Washington from the holidays fearing the repeal might create a backlash from voters.


Ethical baggage

DeLay is the center of an ethics swirl in Washington. The 11-term congressman was admonished last year by the House ethics committee on three separate issues and is the center of a political storm this year over lobbyists paying his and other lawmakers’ tabs for expensive travel abroad.
Wednesday’s indictment stems from a plan DeLay helped set in motion in 2001 to help Republicans win control of the Texas House in the 2002 elections for the first time since Reconstruction.

A state political action committee he created, Texans for a Republican Majority, was indicted earlier this month on charges of accepting corporate contributions for use in state legislative races. Texas law prohibits corporate money from being used to advocate the election or defeat of candidates; it is allowed only for administrative expenses.
With GOP control of the Texas legislature, DeLay then engineered a redistricting plan that enabled the GOP take six Texas seats in the U.S. House away from Democrats — including one lawmaker switching parties — in 2004 and build its majority in Congress.

Lungdop Philing
09-28-2005, 02:23 PM
If this is a state matter does that mean Bush cannot pardon him?

Any lawyer types out there?

Travh20
09-28-2005, 02:23 PM
1 corrupt politician down, 500 some odd more to go. next on the list: Nancy Pelosi.

Lungdop Philing
09-28-2005, 02:29 PM
Looks like Frist is next then one of, or some combination of ...

Scooter, Rove, Rice, Ari, Gannon, Cheney, Bolton and if Fitzgerald somehow manages to get Edmunds testimony, then the entire Team-Bush and Team_Blair go up the river.

At his press conference, DeLay called Ronnie Earle (District Attorney) a rogue and a zealot -- ROTFLMAO -- this guy Delay just never learns.

Vilepagan
09-28-2005, 05:19 PM
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...

Travh20
09-28-2005, 05:23 PM
and democrats are all perfect angels right dop?

The Praetorian
09-28-2005, 06:04 PM
The case is thinner than Kate Moss with the only mounting evidence being one check and a very loose theory. Here we have a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge so weak, I'd be surprised if it lasts two weeks. Good luck prosecuting, dems – you’ll need it...

LionelHutz
09-28-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
If this is a state matter does that mean Bush cannot pardon him?

Any lawyer types out there?

I don't know definitively, but I'm pretty sure that Bush could not pardon him.

Originally posted by Travh20
and democrats are all perfect angels right dop?

Why is everything relative to you? "Well, you killed 50 people, but that guy over there killed 51, so I guess you're not so bad."

Originally posted by The Praetorian The case is thinner than Kate Moss with the only mounting evidence being one check and a very loose theory. Here we have a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge so weak, I'd be surprised if it lasts two weeks. Good luck prosecuting, dems – you’ll need it...
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The hard part is going to be proving that the evil-doings (which should be easy to prove) were done at the behest of Delay.

From what they were saying on NPR, a lot of Republicans think he's a power mad asshole who has little interest in any supposedly traditionally Repulican (in theory) issues - in particular small government. He recently said that there was no fat to cut in the federal government.

Mr. Shaman
09-29-2005, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
The case is thinner than Kate Moss with the only mounting evidence being one check and a very loose theory.

http://www.agitprops.org/sticky.jpg

:slap:

Vilepagan
09-29-2005, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
The case is thinner than Kate Moss with the only mounting evidence being one check and a very loose theory. Here we have a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge so weak, I'd be surprised if it lasts two weeks. Good luck prosecuting, dems – you’ll need it...

Prae, the indictment was brought by a grand jury, not a "boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge". When a grand jury hands down an indictment it's because they've heard evidence that suggests Mr. Delay was guilty of a crime.

As to the political motivation for this prosecution:

DeLay flashed defiance during the day as he embarked on a round of post-indictment media interviews. Summoning reporters to his office in the Capitol — the one he would soon vacate — he denounced Texas prosecutor Ronald Earle as "an unabashed partisan zealot.

"I am innocent. Mr. Earle and his staff know it. And I will prove it," he added.

"Our job is to prosecute abuses of power and to bring those abuses to the public," Earle responded in Texas. Rebutting charges of partisanship, he said he has investigated four times as many Democrats as Republicans.

Sounds like a political hatchet job to me. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050929/ap_on_go_co/delay

Lungdop Philing
09-29-2005, 07:28 AM
No Trav -- dems aren't angels ... well at least not all of us :D

Travh20
09-29-2005, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by LionelHutz


Why is everything relative to you? "Well, you killed 50 people, but that guy over there killed 51, so I guess you're not so bad."





it is not relative to me, read farther up the post. if he is guilty send him to prison, end of story. now good luck gettin gsomething out of the left wing sttooges about democrats. dop gave a whole list of republicns wrongdoers, which left the impression he either doesnt care if democrats do something wrong, or he doesnt think they ever do. why dont you ask him that question?

The Praetorian
09-29-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
Prae, the indictment was brought by a grand jury, not a "boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge". When a grand jury hands down an indictment it's because they've heard evidence that suggests Mr. Delay was guilty of a crime.
My bad, my wording was poor, but who's prosecuting the case, Vile? That's what I thought..."a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney" looking to convict on a trumped up charge.

500lbguerilla
09-29-2005, 12:18 PM
Delay is guilty as sin and Prea is providing nothing more than half-assed conjecture for god knows what reason. He has almost been found guilty multiple times. Thank God it finally caught.

Heres a thought, Delay is sooo innocent that his fellow members in congress sought to pass a law spefically so that he could retain his position if he was ever indicted...yeah right....

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BREAKING: After Indictment, DeLay Grossly Distorts Role With TRMPAC

Tom DeLay wants you to believe he was completely in the dark about TRMPAC’s activities. Here’s what DeLay said tonight on Hardball:

That’s TRMPAC. That’s not me…I was simply, along with four other elected officials, on an advisory board. They used my name as headliners for fundraisers and I had no idea what they were doing.

The facts suggest otherwise:

DELAY SAID TRMPAC WAS HIS IDEA: “U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, said Wednesday that it was his idea to create Texans for a Republican Majority.” [Austin American Statesman, 3/10/05]

DELAY ADMITTED HE WAS A “CREATOR, ADVISOR AND FUNDRAISER” FOR TRMPAC: “House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said Wednesday he served as a creator, adviser and fund-raiser to a Texas-based political action committee now under state criminal investigation.” [Houston Chronicle, 3/10/04]

TRMPAC LITERATURE NAMES DELAY AS ORGANZATION “LEADER”: “Q: Who is Leading Texas for a Republican Majority? A: The leadership of the PAC includes Rep. Tom DeLay…” [TRMPAC, Q&A For Potential Media Inquires]

EVIDENCE SUGGESTS DELAY WAS INVOLVED IN COLLECTING CORPORATE CONTRIBUTIONS: “Documents, which were entered into evidence last week in a related civil trial in Austin, the state capital, suggest that Mr. DeLay personally forwarded at least one large corporate check to the committee, Texans for a Republican Majority, and that he was in direct contact with lobbyists for some of the nation’s largest companies on the committee’s behalf.” [New York Times, 3/9/05]

DELAY PARTICIPATED IN TRMPAC FINANCE COMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS [TRMPAC, 10/5/02]
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/28/delay-distorts-role/

LionelHutz
09-29-2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
My bad, my wording was poor, but who's prosecuting the case, Vile? That's what I thought..."a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney" looking to convict on a trumped up charge.

To paraphrase the Washington Post, it may be a witchhunt, but that doesn't mean he's not a witch.

500lbguerilla
09-29-2005, 01:28 PM
Woot.

Frist may be on the choppin blcok too

Company run by Frist's brother made $630m deal two days before he announced he would be leader
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Family_company_of_Senate_leader_made_0929.html

HCA says SEC upgrades Frist stock probe
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1169944

Mr. Shaman
09-29-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by The Praetorian
The case is thinner than Kate Moss with the only mounting evidence being one check and a very loose theory. Here we have a boneheaded, witch-hunting, liberal, states attorney looking to indict on a trumped up charge so weak, I'd be surprised if it lasts two weeks.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight......."Bugs" DeLay is God's Gift to U.S. tax-payers . (http://houseofscandal.org/howscandalsaffectyou.html) :rolleyes:

Freethinker
09-29-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Shaman
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight......."Bugs" DeLay is God's Gift to U.S. tax-payers . (http://houseofscandal.org/howscandalsaffectyou.html) :rolleyes:

HEY!!!........it's Shaman!!

Welcome back!!! You've been missed.

Mr. Shaman
09-29-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
HEY!!!........it's Shaman!!

Welcome back!!! You've been missed.
Just had to stop-in and see if anyone else is enjoying the last ride of "BUGS" DeLAY!!!!!!!!!!! (http://news.ft.com/cms/s/30beeae0-312e-11da-ac1b-00000e2511c8.html) :D

"For the past 2½ years, Mr Earle has been quietly building a case against Mr DeLay, the US House majority leader. On Wednesday, Mr Earle laid his cards on the table, filing an indictment that charged Mr DeLay with conspiring to violate state election laws.

“Ronnie would not have sought this indictment if he were not sure he had the evidence,” said David Anderson, a University of Texas law professor, who has known Mr Earle for 35 years. Mr Earle's website boasts that his Travis County district attorney's office is “A Model for the Nation”. It cites pioneering child abuse initiatives, the fact it was the state's first prosecutor's office to have a victim assistance division and that it led Texas in forming a public integrity unit to prosecute corruption in government.

It says Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government professors recently used his initiatives to model how to put the theory of community justice into practice, and that the US Department of Justice and the Center for Court Innovation in New York profiled the Travis County DA's office as one of the top four district attorney's offices in the country."

http://img171.exs.cx/img171/6872/tomdelay5co.gif

Freethinker
09-30-2005, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Shaman
Just had to stop-in and see if anyone else is enjoying the last ride of "BUGS" DeLAY!!!!!!!!!!! (http://news.ft.com/cms/s/30beeae0-312e-11da-ac1b-00000e2511c8.html)

Even ASIDE from the fact that he's a loathsome individual who would let a thousand poor people starve if it would add a zero to the bank account of one of his rich friends, every sentient being in the country has long known what a thoroughly dishonest scum-of-the-earth Delay is.

I just wish there were somehwere, though, to wager on his ever being punished [i.e., sent to jail]

I would wager a large sum that he does NOT go to jail, even though they have clear and compelling evidence against him.

He's a saintly, pure-as-the-driven-snow conservative you see, and all attempts to bring him to justice are just e-ville liiiiiiibrul operatives "out to get him".

IOW, he's a garden variety ConservaPuke.

The Praetorian
09-30-2005, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
IOW, he's a garden variety ConservaPuke.
LOL. You're foaming again, FT...

LionelHutz
09-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker


I would wager a large sum that he does NOT go to jail, even though they have clear and compelling evidence against him.


Out of curiosity, how do you know how good the evidence against him is? From what I've read, they've got pretty clear evidence of the wrongdoing, and they've got pretty clear evidence of Delay's people being involved, but not much in the way of evidence linking their actions to Delay's orders. Of course it's extremely likely that Delay was involved, but that doesn't cut it in court.

500lbguerilla
09-30-2005, 03:10 PM
Stupid Tom DeLay Quotes

1) "So many minority youths had volunteered…that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like myself." --Tom DeLay, explaining at the 1988 GOP convention why he and vice presidential nominee Dan Quayle did not fight in the Vietnam War

"I AM the federal government." –Tom DeLay, to the owner of Ruth's Chris Steak House, after being told to put out his cigar because of federal government regulations banning smoking in the building, May 14, 2003

5) "Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes." –Tom DeLay, March 12, 2003

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/stupidquotes/a/tomdelayquotes.htm?nl=1

Lungdop Philing
10-01-2005, 11:32 AM
Delay's replacement is in hot water and he's only been on the job a couple of days ... ROTFLMAO

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/30/MNGHSF0EJ11.DTL

opinionatedwon
10-02-2005, 04:22 PM
http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/delay/delay92805ind.pdf
you must have adobe acrobat to read this

the indictment papers show no evidence against delay.

Freethinker
10-02-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by LionelHutz
Out of curiosity, how do you know how good the evidence against him is?

I don't.

I should have phrased it --""I would wager a large sum that he (DeLay) does NOT go to jail, even though they may produce clear and compelling evidence against him.""

500lbguerilla
10-03-2005, 01:01 PM
Ahh...the wonderful lie of a partisan prosecutor...
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Within hours of Rep. DeLay's indictment, Republican House members found a two-page set of talking points in their in-boxes. The defense of Tom DeLay began with the Swift Boating of Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle.

"The indictment against Congressman DeLay is only one example in Earle's long history of using the judiciary and abusing legal processes for political gain," the memo advises. "No citizen, including Congressman DeLay, should be the victim of a rogue, partisan prosecutor acting with improper motives. Earle's behavior is unethical, unlawful and should not be allowed to continue." Over 29 years in office, Ronnie Earle has prosecuted 16 office holders -- 11 Democrats and five Republicans. Earle is such a stickler for ethics he once charged himself with failing to file a campaign expense report on time.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1002-20.htm
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and the idiots eat it up with a spoon...
:@@:

Lungdop Philing
10-03-2005, 06:28 PM
More charges for Delay ...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20051003/ap_on_go_co/delay_indictment_1

Freethinker
10-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Over 29 years in office, Ronnie Earle has prosecuted 16 office holders -- 11 Democrats and five Republicans.

True........it's of no surprise that DeLay's complaint against what Earle is doing is typical Reichwing bullshit.

When Earle prosecutes an e-ville Demoncrat, he's no doubt ""just doing what's right and fair"".

When he prosecutes a shady, extreme-rightwing operative like Tom DeLay, it just an **unfair singling out of a salt-of-the-earth Republican**.........it's a witchunt, to hear DeLay and his ilk tell it.

LionelHutz
10-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
....it's a witchunt, to hear DeLay and his ilk tell it.

Which is of course ironic, since DeLay has been a perpetrator of hard core party politics his entire career. He practically invented it. And stupid anyway, as the evidence indicates that Earle is not a quarter of the parisan hack DeLay is.

500lbguerilla
10-04-2005, 02:25 PM
DeLay Is Indicted on Two New Charges
Money Laundering Alleged in Texas

A Texas grand jury indicted Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) yesterday for alleged involvement in money laundering related to the 2002 Texas election, raising new and more serious allegations than the conspiracy charge lodged against the former House majority leader last week.

The surprising new indictments followed by a matter of hours a motion by DeLay's Texas legal defense team to quash last week's charge on grounds that the Texas prosecutor in charge of the case lacked authority to bring it. The lawyers alleged that the crime of conspiracy was not covered by the state election law at the time of the alleged violation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/03/AR2005100300190.html?referrer=email&referrer=email

Freethinker
10-05-2005, 05:46 PM
From Sam Smith:

"WITH the indictment of Tom DeLay there can no longer be any doubt that with the Bush regime we are observing not a variation on politics but chronically criminal and corrupt behavior parading as ideology. This is not a movement but a mob and a disservice as much to conservatives as to progressives and moderates. The whole purpose of the Bush machine is to line its own pockets, increase its own power, and suppress any who would complain about it. For the media to treat what is happening as just another political discussion merely makes it a tool of the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American public. It is time the press learned to distinguish clearly between a con and a concept."

http://prorev.com/2005/09/pocket-paradigm_28.htm

Lungdop Philing
10-05-2005, 06:31 PM
And there's a spy in the white house ...

DeLay, Frist, Spy ... TRIFECTA

The Praetorian
10-06-2005, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
DeLay, Frist, Spy ... TRIFECTA
LMAO