So everyone may or maynot have heard that there were hundreds of thousands of people that took to the street to oppose the war on Sept. 24th. official estimates for DC alone are 100,000 - 300,000.

However there were pro-war protestors in DC as well. A mere 100 of them.

Now the funny part about pro-war idiots is that they like to pretend that everyone that stays home supports the war. However its hard to claim such when you are explicitly hold a pro-war rally at the same time. However that how delisional these people really are.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050925/D8CRD0E80.html

""It's the silent majority," said 22-year-old Stephanie Grgurich of Leesburg, Va., who has a brother serving in Iraq."

The amazing thing about Saturday was that Pretty much every other car (and sometimes every) gave a honk of support or a peace sign. This is a stark contrast to the protests that were held over a year ago. I guess sooner or later people start to wake up and realize who was right.

Rally to support Iraq war draws hundreds
Organizers had hoped for far larger response to Saturday’s D.C. protest

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9478262/

"One sign on the mall read “Cindy Sheehan doesn’t speak for me” and another “Arrest the traitors”; it listed Sheehan’s name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Melody Vigna, 44, of Linden, Calif., said she wants nothing to do with Sheehan and others at nearby Camp Casey, an antiwar site set up to honor her son, Casey, who was killed in Iraq.

“Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that,” Vigna s"

Bwahahahaaa...Becuase the troops are fighting to preserve freedom it shouldn't be used....heh

and if 100,000 people showed up for a support the war rally and 100 anti war protestors showed up you would be singing their praises as brave and true to their cause :rolleyes: your about as subtle as a 500lb guerilla, that must be where you got your name. we know where you stand. we could probably post for you with some accuracy if you were to ever disapear. **guerilla get ups and looks out curtains for black helicopters**

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Rally to support Iraq war draws hundreds
Organizers had hoped for far larger response to Saturday’s D.C. protest

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9478262/

"One sign on the mall read “Cindy Sheehan doesn’t speak for me” and another “Arrest the traitors”; it listed Sheehan’s name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Melody Vigna, 44, of Linden, Calif., said she wants nothing to do with Sheehan and others at nearby Camp Casey, an antiwar site set up to honor her son, Casey, who was killed in Iraq.

“Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that,” Vigna s"

Bwahahahaaa...Becuase the troops are fighting to preserve freedom it shouldn't be used....heh

she has a right to say anything she wants, remember? or are you in the "freedom of speech unless its against protestors" gang?

I originally estimated that there were about 300,000 there. I started hearing reports of only 100,000 and thought someone must be lying. The only "craft that I saw in the air was a government helicopter that kept buzzing around whenever someone was speaking and the huge difference in numbers started to make sense.

There were a few hecklers along the way near the end of the march. One that I actually argued a little with told me that God supported this war and that I was going against God and going to hell. How do you discuss anything with a person like that? I asked him why God mispronounces nuclear so much. He didn't get it. I knew he wouldn't.

Originally posted by Tapeworm
One (person) that I actually argued a little with told me that God supported this war and that I was going against God and going to hell.

So........you met one of the garden variety Rightwingers, with their insane "Gott Mitt Uns!!" stance........that person's view epitomizes Conservative ideology.

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""Now to the root of the matter. The great unmentionable evil at the center of American culture is monotheism. From a barbaric
Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament,three anti-human religions have evolved---Judaism,Christianity and Islam. These are
the sky-god religions. They are,literally,patriarchal---God is the omnipotent father---hence the loathing of women for 2000 years in
those countries afflicted by the sky-god and his earthly male delegates. The sky-god is a jealous god,of course. He requires
total obedience from everyone on Earth,as he is in place not just for one tribe,but for all creation. Those who would reject him
must be converted or killed for their own good. Ultimately, totalitarianism is the only sort of politics that can
truly serve the sky-god's purpose. Any movement of a liberal nature endangers his authority and that of his delegates on earth.
One God,one King,one master in the factory,one father-leader in the family at home.""_______Vidal

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla

Now the funny part about pro-war idiots is that they like to pretend that everyone that stays home supports the war. However its hard to claim such when you are explicitly hold a pro-war rally at the same time. However that how delisional these people really are.

Actually, the latest figure I heard was a whopping 400 (gasp!) pro-war protestors.

My!......how proud the organizers must be of THAT tremedous turnout!!

BWAAAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

On a related note, check this out-------

Bush plea for cash to rebuild Iraq raises $600

(Yep. Six hundred dollars)

An extraordinary appeal to Americans from the Bush administration for money to help pay for the reconstruction of Iraq has raised $600, The Observer has learnt. .........US Aid's Heather Layman denied it was disappointed with the meagre sum raised after a fortnight. 'Every little helps,' she said.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1577750,00.html
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes: so from this point on, we expect any anti war rally that draws less then 100,000 people to be a dissapointment that means the world supports the war. you left wingers have the ability to set yourself up for failure with your cheap shots dont you?

What our vaunted leftists, guerilla and Freethinker, won't tell you about the war protests today is that it was organized by United For Peace and Justice a group that is founded by one Leslie Cagan, a committed socialist and rather proud anti-American type. I'll post the links for everyone's reading pleasure.

The anti-war protest isn't about Cindy Sheehan or that the war in Iraq is unjust or any of the bilge that they'd like for you to think it is, it's about making America fail in Iraq and Getting Bush which the Left has been tirelessly working for for the past 5 years. Dammit.


Sheehan arrest; protest organized by UFPJ (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46525)

United for Peace and Justice, anti American left (http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6166%20)

hell, we know that, anti war and anti american go hand in hand in most cases.

Originally posted by Travh20
:rolleyes: so from this point on, we expect any anti war rally that draws less then 100,000 people to be a dissapointment that means the world supports the war.

Uhhhh....no, actually.

From this point on Trav, I expect any anti-war rally held in the nation's capital that draws less than 400 people (like the laughably pathetic pro-war rally did....LOLOL) to be a HUGE dissapointment and a sign that the American People are staunchly in favor of the war.

p.s. --------all resident imbeciles here should be informed to NOT hold their breath waiting for that to happen.


ROTFL.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/momoyaro/nelsonatrally.jpg

Originally posted by Freethinker
Uhhhh....no, actually.

From this point on Trav, I expect any anti-war rally held in the nation's capital that draws less than 400 people (like the laughably pathetic pro-war rally did....LOLOL) to be a HUGE dissapointment and a sign that the American People are staunchly in favor of the war.

p.s. --------all resident imbeciles here should be informed to NOT hold their breath waiting for that to happen.


ROTFL.

how many people were down in crawford again on the sheehan circus? I seem to remember that being a huge show of courage and solidarity. your hypocrisy never ends.

Originally posted by Travh20
how many people were down in crawford again on the sheehan circus?

Circus?!?!? Not sure about that one.

If, however, you're refering to the gathering where a woman with a son who died fighting for cheap oil was trying to get a smirking fucking coward to come out and answer one simple question.....I don't know how many there were.

Originally posted by Travh20
I seem to remember that being a huge show of courage and solidarity.

Yes.....it truly was. Thanks for noticing.

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/momoyaro/nelsonatrally.jpg

so you admit a few hundred peope turning out for a anti war rally is brave and noble but 400 people showing up to show suppport of the war is a joke. alrighty then. maybe if you post a few more stupid cartoon you can convince yourself that is OK instead of sheer hypocrisy. myself, I dont care for rallys or protests of any size for anything.

The point is that the national pro-war protest was utterly pathetic. Especially as a suppossed response to the anti-war rallies. I was just demonstrating how little real support there is for such things. I did do to refute the stupid notion that everyone who stays home from a protest must disagree with the protestors. It was exemplified by this morons statement : "It's the silent majority"

Yeah right....

if you think all those people just showed up to the anti war rally your sorely mistaken. those things are planned and organized and people brought in. its just not 100,000 people showing up at the same spot.

The anti-war rallies have at least a sense of idealism, in that this type of idealism, perhaps nieve in many instances, is certainly not a bad set of ideals.

On the other hand - Pro-War rallies, that doesn't sound too good at all to me. War is not a good thing, it is always controversial, it generally splits public opinion, not to mention all the people that end up dying.

Anybody who would attend a pro-war rally is much more scary in my book than the beat-nik pot smoking hippies at the peace rallies.

Originally posted by Travh20
so you admit a few hundred peope turning out for a anti war rally is brave and noble but 400 people showing up to show suppport of the war is a joke. alrighty then.

WTF?!?!

I don't even BELIEVE in the concept of "nobility", you poor deluded fool.

Furthermore, neither I nor any other person has said one word about "oh, the anti-war people are so brave and noble!"

You repeatedly concoct this bullshit out of thin air and expect someone to think you have a point.........its laughable.

The people gathered in Crawford Texas --imo--- demonstrated solidarity and courage.

The people down in Crawford TX were in a DITCH in the middle of a field.....they had violence aimed toward them at various points, and they STILL drew far more people to their cause than the number atttending a national pro-war rally in the nation's CAPITAL.

THAT is the pertinent point about the pathetically small number of people attending the pro-war rally.

There is no hypocrisy involved.

Originally posted by Travh20
those things are planned and organized and people brought in.

What?!?!?!...........as if the people attending were not really against the war, but were just paid or somehow coerced into going to the rally anyway?!?!?!?

Yeah......a crowd of a couple hundred thousand, but vast numbers of them were just -- "people who were brought in" ..........ROTFL.

Even YOU aren't ignorant enough to actually believe that's true.

one hundred thousand people? What is that... one billionth of the population of the united states??? that's all i have to say about that.

Originally posted by Decka
one hundred thousand people? What is that... one billionth of the population of the united states??? that's all i have to say about that.
Far more then what turned out for the "Pro-War" rallies. :o Sure, try and knock down the Anti-War rallies, but when it comes down to it, less then half of the people in our nation support this war. And far more protested against it then for it. Showing that far more people on the "Anti-War" side feel so strongly about it that they are willing to protest out in public. You don't see the Pro-War people taking the time to go out and be proud of this war Bush has gotten us into. Because right now, it is hard to be proud of this war. And it shows, because hardly any people who support this war actually take the time to publicly show their support.

Originally posted by Overdose
Far more then what turned out for the "Pro-War" rallies. :o Sure, try and knock down the Anti-War rallies, but when it comes down to it, less then half of the people in our nation support this war. And far more protested against it then for it. Showing that far more people on the "Anti-War" side feel so strongly about it that they are willing to protest out in public.

either that... or all the people who are for the war have JOBS
Originally posted by Overdose

You don't see the Pro-War people taking the time to go out and be proud of this war Bush has gotten us into. Because right now, it is hard to be proud of this war. And it shows, because hardly any people who support this war actually take the time to publicly show their support.

Who cares about "publicly" showing support for the war??? Is this a Dog and Pony Show? Should we start having pep rally's in D.C.???? This isn't hollywood you know....

All that really matters is that what needs to get done in this war gets done.... and that's that. Patience is a virtue, and we won't know if this war is a failure or success until years after... so just chill out, sit back, and grab some 3 olives cherry.

Originally posted by Decka
either that... or all the people who are for the war have JOBS
I think be are able to take a day off of work if they feel they need to (IE: call in sick) However, keep making excuses for your side of the issue. It is very funny, knowing that my parents both have been in protests and both have jobs.

Who cares about "publicly" showing support for the war??? Is this a Dog and Pony Show? Should we start having pep rally's in D.C.???? This isn't hollywood you know....
Being public about how you feel shows if you strongly support something or don't support something. It is just a sign that not many people in the US actually support the Iraq War to a large extent.

(like the laughably pathetic pro-war rally did....LOLOL)

Oh, i am sorry the pro war side has jobs, and more importantly-lives.

Being public about how you feel shows if you strongly support something or don't support something. It is just a sign that not many people in the US actually support the Iraq War to a large extent.

Or shows that people have other things to do with their lives that are more important. And that money was not heavily put into the cause of making an extensive protest in washington to get the word out. Those in favor of the war don't need to make public signs of approval...we are over there fighting a battle and rebuilding a nation right now, and they are getting what they wanted.

Oh, and when a rough estimate of 100,000 people accounts for the other 295,900,000 people in this country----we have a problem.
If i show up with 50,000 people in favor of marijuana legalization, and few people come to protest us, that does not signify the country does not want that legalized necessarily. It is neither rock solid evidence or a determining factor.

either that... or all the people who are for the war have JOBS heh yeah and all teh anti- war people are jobless hippies....hehehehee

Funny I talk about how stupid these pro-war people can be with their assumptions and Decka just can't wait to prove it...

Or shows that people have other things to do with their lives that are more important you know, something more important than standing up for what you believe in. Things like shopping or watching TV...

Oh, and when a rough estimate of 100,000 people accounts for the other 295,900,000 people in this country----we have a problem. Yeah I mean its not like recent polls have shown a 58% disapproval of the war or anything...oh wait, it has? Jackass...

It's amazing how steadfastly sure you are that your opinions apply to the majority of Americans when it obviously doesn't...

you know, something more important than standing up for what you believe in.

Or providing for yourself and/or family. Maintaining your job, taking care of various appointments, etc etc.

Feel free to protest the Iraq conflict, but "standing up for what you believe in" is kind of a silly way to put it.

Yeah I mean its not like recent polls have shown a 58% disapproval of the war or anything...oh wait, it has? Jackass...

Polls of whom? 2960 "likely" voters? Equal representation of the major parties? equal spread out of land and population?
Those polls aren't always going to serve as surefire proof, whether in anyone's favor or not. It helps gather estimates and gives us a figure to speculate on.

It's amazing how steadfastly sure you are that your opinions apply to the majority of Americans when it obviously doesn't...

Ditto

Feel free to protest the Iraq conflict, but "standing up for what you believe in" is kind of a silly way to put it. Explain why...or is this just more empty and demeaning rhetoric?

Originally posted by Evakian

Feel free to protest the Iraq conflict, but "standing up for what you believe in" is kind of a silly way to put it.



Yes...please elaborate.

And speaking of silly

1. Social Security Surplus
BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01]
...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York Times, 2/6/02]

2. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00]
...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]

3. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

4. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]
...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

5. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

6. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]

7. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]
...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

8. Winning The War On Terror
Bush claims he can win the war on terror: "One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we're asking questions, is, can you ever win the war on terror? Of course, you can." [President Bush, 4/13/04]
…Bush says war on terror is unwinnable: "I don't think you can win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/30/04]
…Bush says he will win the war on terror: "Make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/31/04]

Sweet endorsement:

rabid fascist magazine:
On February 15, many thousands of protesters will assemble within sight of the United Nations building in New York to express their opposition to a war in Iraq. Their efforts will be duplicated in some 300 additional cities throughout North America, Latin America, Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. This will be the first such protest not organized by the Workers World Party (WWP), an energetic Marxist-Leninist organization that openly supports Kim Jong Il’s brutal dictatorship in North Korea. Instead, it will be run by a group called United For Peace and Justice (UFPJ), whose co-chair Leslie Cagan is an enthusiastic, longtime supporter of yet another Communist despot, Fidel Castro.

Given the manner in which the major media report the contemporary "peace" movement’s activities, the average American would never suspect that it is in fact a movement dominated the selfsame Communists that once marched in support of Stalin, Mao, the Vietcong, the Sandinista Marxists, and the Communist guerrillas in El Salvador; the same America-loathing radicals who, because they passionately deem America the root of all evil in the world, now support Kim and Castro.

as the WWP are rather irritating.

If you thought the pathetic turn out of the pro-war crowd was funny, you'll die laughing at this: pro-war "protest warriors" attacked up by other pro-war fascists (http://www.rocknrev.com/pw/pwned.html).

hey if someone is Anti-war on ANY level, that is fine, they can think that all they want.

What i suspect, however, is that many of these people are "Anti Republican War"... and if Al Gore would have started a War in Iraq there wouldn't be this public outcry...

To all the liberals on this board, i won't lump you all into this category, but you have to admit that MANY of the liberals today have a TAD bit more than a "slight dislike" of the president. They ramble on about how he can't talk, and how he stares at things.... and you know what that tells me??? They are obsessed. When they get new stories, they will already be on "how can i make Bush look bad"....

So hey if a person is against War ALLTOGETHER... more power to you. But i suspect more than that.

Originally posted by Decka
hey if someone is Anti-war on ANY level, that is fine, they can think that all they want.

What i suspect, however, is that many of these people are "Anti Republican War"... and if Al Gore would have started a War in Iraq there wouldn't be this public outcry...

To all the liberals on this board, i won't lump you all into this category, but you have to admit that MANY of the liberals today have a TAD bit more than a "slight dislike" of the president. They ramble on about how he can't talk, and how he stares at things.... and you know what that tells me??? They are obsessed. When they get new stories, they will already be on "how can i make Bush look bad"....

So hey if a person is against War ALLTOGETHER... more power to you. But i suspect more than that.

That's actually a good point; most liberals are slimey opportunists. I know some who defended Clinton's illegal act of aggression against Yugoslavia; not as popular a war to protest (also because that war didn't involve as much threat to american troops I suspect).

As for me, I'm always actively against imperialist war and always working for the class war.

Heheheee. That PW thing is great. I remember hearing about it and laughing. The story line with pics is even better.

Originally posted by Decka
hey if someone is Anti-war on ANY level, that is fine, they can think that all they want.

What i suspect, however, is that many of these people are "Anti Republican War"... and if Al Gore would have started a War in Iraq there wouldn't be this public outcry...

To all the liberals on this board, i won't lump you all into this category, but you have to admit that MANY of the liberals today have a TAD bit more than a "slight dislike" of the president. They ramble on about how he can't talk, and how he stares at things.... and you know what that tells me??? They are obsessed. When they get new stories, they will already be on "how can i make Bush look bad"....



I wonder how many conservatives would be standing proudly behind Al Gore had he botched up things half as bad as Bush has (especially the whole WMD thing). I know I would be horrified to admit that I voted for Gore if he turned out to be such a poor leader. I guess my loyalty is not as strong as most peoples. I would also be looking to support someone else.

Looks like the liberals are starting to figure it out. I mention liberals because it's a given the conservatives aren't lined up to serve. They just wanna watch the war picture-in-picture with NASCAR.

Anyway -- good for the young crowd that has apparently decided not to fight for the Cheney Oil companies and come home in the darkness of Dover in a body bag.

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing

Anyway -- good for the young crowd that has apparently decided not to fight for the Cheney Oil companies and come home in a the darkness of Dover in a body bag.

I agree.

The young who refuse to be a part of Bush's clusterfuck of a "war" are more intelligent than most, it seems. I applaud them.

Those youths are, however, the very people the Rightwing faction DESPISES! How DARE they refuse to go and fight for Gott und Country!!....how DARE they not fight for ze honor and glory of ze Fazzerlandt!!!!

That is to say, most Rightwing pols despises it when OTHER people's children do not march off like a good little drone to fight for oil.

As for the Righties OWN offspring.......wellllllll.....they're a bit like a few other notable Rightwingers in Washington, who are EXTREMELY hawkish when TALKING about war, but who had **other more important things to do** when it came time to make a decision whether to fight or not.

This fact was demonstrated clearly by Moore's movie *Farenheit 911*, where he stood on a streetcorner and asked various ConservaFascist politicos if they would send THEIR kids to fight in Iraq. They all ran away like the scum they were, instead of answering the question. The fact that they ran away gives us al the answer we need.

The hypocrisy of these fucks is OFF the charts.

Originally posted by Freethinker
This fact was demonstrated clearly by Moore's movie *Farenheit 911*, where he stood on a streetcorner and asked various ConservaFascist politicos if they would send THEIR kids to fight in Iraq. They all ran away like the scum they were, instead of answering the question. The fact that they ran away gives us al the answer we need.

Of course it was an assinine question - parents don't have the power to make their kids join the military anyway.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Of course it was an assinine question - parents don't have the power to make their kids join the military anyway.

Oh puuuuhleeeze.

How intellectually dishonest can you get?!?

You know perfectly well that the intent of the question we're talking about here was not --"Would you, Mr Washington Politician, forcibly drag your son or daughter into a recruiting office and MAKE them join the service?!".........instead, the intent of the question was ----

-----"Since you, Mr Washington Politician, think the Iraq war is SUCH a noble and necessary conflict, are you willing that YOUR own son or daughter would go and fight?.....and if they are NOT over in Iraq fighting....WHY NOT?!?!"

Originally posted by Lungdop Philing
it's a given the conservatives aren't lined up to serve. They just wanna watch the war picture-in-picture with NASCAR.


I am a conservative... and i dont watch NASCAR... idiot

You couldn't possibly be a republican Michael ...er .. I mean Decka. You're a 'Office Space' fan which makes you a democrat -- possibly you just don't know it yet.

This marine says innocent Iraquis were needlessly slaughtered ...

http://www.stargazettenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051001/NEWS01/510010313

Now, check out what this general dude has to say ...

http://www.lowellsun.com/ci_3072005

WTF happened to my country?