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Napsterbater
09-10-2005, 10:25 PM
Well, Blob here seems to have a lot of misgivings towards new-age ideas. Well, I happen to love the new age. I think the new age will bring about a whole new era of human prosperity and well-being. Finally will we be able to heal those wounds that humanity has inflicted on itself so deeply. I know these things, and can't be argued away from it, my optimism cannot be cured. Here is why. I am about to reveal to you the secret of the new age and all its wonderful philosophies.

Ready for it? Here goes.

See, new age chicks are some of the easiest chicks to get with of all time. There is a very good reason for all that hooey. It's to get their collective panties wet. Guys made all that shit up just so they could get laid. And work it does, hereby negating fifty years of horrible feminism that made it really hard for a brother to get laid. Now it is incredibly easy.

Just find some new age chick, drop her some bullshit line about how you met Carlos Castaneda, and boom! Off come her clothes! It is so incredibly easy to fake new-age guruhood that you have to admit that some really genius motherfuckers came up with it.

Those guys really need to be the subject of one of those Real American Heroes radio spots. "We salute you, Mr. New Age bullshit-talker!"

And they even covered all the bases. Yoga is fucking genius! Put them in some sexy poses to get them looking and feeling good and sexy, with a whole line of barely-there clothes to go with it. Forty-year old divorcees never looked this good!

When I first heard of new age, I was like, yeah right! This is a load of crap! I could come up with better shit than this! Shamanism? More like Acid Trip to me!

But I was converted the second I heard of polyamory. It's like cheating, but you don't have to do all this hiding from your wife shit! Then I started seeing the possibilities.

I joined a yoga class, and started getting laid like Hugh Hefner! I dropped some bullshit about how one of them had this strange aura, and how we should find someplace private so I could do a little energy work. Told her I was a third degree reiki practitioneer. That got her exited, because she's been feeling kinda down at work, ya know? The crap makes itself up sometimes!

Anyway, we get back to her place, and I give her a massage first, just because I couldn't keep my hands off her because she was so damn hot! Then I started mumbling some crap, and then I get on top of her. We start kissing and bam! I saw the great buddha in the sky! He commanded me to go seduce all the gullible wenches I could find! How the hell could I refuse a call from God?

So, I went on tour and sexed up all the fine-ass yoga chicks I could find. I honed my skills, and now I can talk like Osho, Castaneda, Yoda, and David Duchovny all at once. Its great!

Now I have to spread the word, and give back to the community. So here I am. Let there be easy sex for every single guy in America that wants it!

Evakian
09-10-2005, 10:36 PM
Yoda

Why bother with Duchovny and those other losers?
The Jedi Master known as Yoda (896 BBY–4 ABY) has a voice that makes women orgasm
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On another note,

This is rather sick and sad how you take advantage of women and are so carnally driven. And how you embrace the new-age for sexual reasons. Blunt and puerile on your part.:(

Napsterbater
09-10-2005, 10:54 PM
Ooh, I need to write for The Onion!

Blob
09-11-2005, 12:13 AM
Young women with legs as open as their minds is indeed one advantage of new-agism, napsterbater. And you're right - start talking some new-age bull about how, I dunno, trees communicate in a sophisticated language with one another through their roots, and you've got them hooked.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 12:37 AM
Guys made all that shit up just so they could get laid.


Strangely enough, it would fit in with the whole new age idea of how Freud fucked us all up and how we really need to have more sex.

I started chatting up this one married woman at a party. She had met my dad earlier, and we were talking about him. I told her that he just wanted to get laid, that was why he was here. (I was rather pissed at him at the time) She just makes this expression of pure disgust. I then proceeded to hit on her shamelessly. She turned me down that night, but right before I left the area, she takes me out, buys me sushi, and screws my brains out.

Vive la New Age!

Blob
09-11-2005, 01:25 AM
So this thread was started because you've had a few shags and want to boast about it?

It's got fuck all to do with new-agism.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 01:47 AM
I actually like new-agers. Nice bunch. Well-meaning. Never had a problem with a new-ager starting a fight in a bar with me, or ragging me for the choices I make in life.

I could think of much worse philosophies to live by, the dog-eat-dog world of capitalism, the stuffy academic world, the tired same-ism of the artistic world notwithstanding. I have no wish to join the endless ranks of writers looking to get published, metrosexuals and their vanity, comedy writers looking for their big break.

Thinking about all that just makes me tired and worn out. I just want to tune out, and deal with some nice enough people who don't put on airs.

They may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they aren't all the dumbest either. It's pretty easy to get into some interesting conversations with them, because new-agers tend to be at least somewhat educated, and their quests usually leave them with some interesting stories to tell.

They hold some damn fun parties, listen to halfway decent music, and they actually are pretty good in bed. What more could you ask from a group?

I honestly don't see why you have a problem with it.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 02:15 AM
And really, I'm just playing around. Like this (http://www.rockpapersaddam.com/) guy.

Just flexing my writing muscles by trying to write something funny.

Blob
09-11-2005, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
the dog-eat-dog world of capitalismThe main problem I have with new-agers is that they tend to be screaming money-lovers. They go on and on about how material things are not important but by day are the most competitive ruthless rat-racers you could have the misfortune to come across.
Originally posted by Napsterbater
the stuffy academic world,New-agers are always anti-academia. It does not contain the riches and glamour they pretend to have no interest in.
Originally posted by Napsterbater
the tired same-ism of the artistic world notwithstanding.Well I'm a philistine. I'm not proud of the fact but acknowledge I have no valid opinion on the world of art.
Originally posted by Napsterbater
I have no wish to join the endless ranks of writers looking to get published, metrosexuals and their vanity, comedy writers looking for their big break.Again these fantasies of making it big one day are common amongst new-agers who, ironically, go on and on about how life should be enjoyed second by second. A mass case of the lady doth protest too much.
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Thinking about all that just makes me tired and worn out. I just want to tune out, and deal with some nice enough people who don't put on airs.New-agers are pompous and up their own arses. They get shitty with you if you don't believe everything they say without question. They call you "closed-minded" if you have any discretion about what you chose to believe.
Originally posted by Napsterbater
They hold some damn fun parties, listen to halfway decent music, and they actually are pretty good in bed. What more could you ask from a group?They are abysmal conversationalists because they come out with twee crap and think they are profound. Loads of them consider their bodies to be a temple so their idea of a great party is mineral water and salad without dressing. They are only good in bed - according to you - because they get turned on by keywords like "aura".
Originally posted by Napsterbater
I honestly don't see why you have a problem with it. Bunch of pompous smug hypocrites unable to acknowledge they are content in life (http://www.infidelguy.com/members/rickyroma/na_holism.htm) through sheer luck of being born middle-class in a stable society. Instead they attribute their content to their personal innate goodness: they have a "positive aura", a "higher purpose", a "cosmic karma". They are happy because they are superior and this allegedly purposeful universe has endowed them with happiness accordingly.

Shameless self-worshipping hypocrites. (http://www.infidelguy.com/ftopicp-222193-Ways_to_be_an_irritating_newagist.html#222193)

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 03:49 AM
The main problem I have with new-agers is that they tend to be screaming money-lovers. They go on and on about how material things are not important but by day are the most competitive ruthless rat-racers you could have the misfortune to come across.

I have not found this to be the case. Relatively few of them (I've met a lot) actually do this. Perhaps because most of the new-agers I come in contact with are lower middle class who are just happy enough to scrounge up enough money to go to Burning man this year.

New-agers are always anti-academia. It does not contain the riches and glamour they pretend to have no interest in.

Again, I have also found differently. Many of the unix geeks I come across also happen to be new-agers, card carrying wiccans, pagans, who have regular jobs, and they go to school like everybody else.

Again these fantasies of making it big one day are common amongst new-agers who, ironically, go on and on about how life should be enjoyed second by second. A mass case of the lady doth protest too much.

Aside from a tendancy to be drama queens, all the new-agers I meet enjoy life a whole lot more than your average career junkie.

They are abysmal conversationalists because they come out with twee crap and think they are profound. Loads of them consider their bodies to be a temple so their idea of a great party is mineral water and salad without dressing. They are only good in bed - according to you - because they get turned on by keywords like "aura".

You haven't been to too many pagan parties, have you? They bring drums and flutes and digeridoos to play while the others dance around the bonfire. Mead is the drink of choice, and it's damn good shit. They use organic food, so it actually tastes halfway decent. And there is always salad dressing on the table. Few are vegetarians, much less vegans, though there is a larger proportion of them than in the rest of society.

Lots of them are actually alive to the idea that people try to bullshit them. There is a big community out there of witches, heathens, pagans, new-agers that attempt to cut through the more ergregious bullshit.

Bunch of pompous smug hypocrites unable to acknowledge they are content in life through sheer luck of being born middle-class in a stable society. Instead they attribute their content to their personal innate goodness: they have a "positive aura", a "higher purpose", a "cosmic karma". They are happy because they are superior and this allegedly purposeful universe has endowed them with happiness accordingly.

I would like to know what experiences led you to such a negative opinion of the whole phenomena. Hypocrisy, anthropomorphism, egoism, and superstition happen to us all.

I go to great lengths to call them out on their bullshit, even when I am at their festivals. Most of the time they just shrug. It's not like they can convince me. They don't mind when others not of the fold show up, and they love a good argument.

All in all, they are people, like anyone else.

Blob
09-11-2005, 04:17 AM
I think the age difference is a factor in our perceptions here.

I was quite new-agey myself once. I remember the days of absynthe fueled parties in fields near Stone Henge and vows never to sell out.

But it's the ones most into it that became chartered acountants the quickest. Now they indulge in organic vegetables and candles that smell of ginger and pretend they are at oneness with themselves. (I predict you'll be a Realtor or something by the time you're 30, napsterbater. But you'll get into meditation and pretend you are saving the world.)

For the last few months I have had a new-age relative staying with me (technically a Rasta but whatever). Sat around the bloody house saying it had "low spiritual energy" and not contributing to the rent because "god provides". He didn't sit around the house because he genuinely embraces his own professed philosophy of course. Oh no. The reason he sat around whilst my girlfriend and I paid the bills was because he was too special to do ordinary jobs like us. No - the universe had destined him for greater things and he was patiently waiting for a big break in... the fucking stock market! Oh the joyous irony of his ambitions! He's family and I love him dearly but boy was it time for him to get off his arse.

I have a million and one other anecdotes. For example the spanish pig seller who had inherited the business but was convinced he was happy because he understood Paulo Cuelho books. Or the Bulgarian pimp I knew who claimed The Matrix was the key to understanding reality and if it's not your favourite film your are controlled by *THEM*. Fuck me - a man who exploits young vulnerable women for a living thinking he's on the side of "cosmic goodness" because he's read a few a mystic books. Twat.

Well I could go on...

The irony is new-agers usually like me! Because of my interest in deep questions and quirky mannerisms they think I "understand". Only when I dismiss their astrology ramblings do they realise I'm not what they "sensed" me to be.

Evakian
09-11-2005, 08:44 AM
Aziz:
Tiger Hand always beats paper

Amen

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 09:37 AM
I remember the days of absynthe fueled parties in fields near Stone Henge and vows never to sell out.

Heh heh, I know the feeling. (vows to never sell out) Bulletproof, god damn it, I ain't never going to die. It is one of the most charming things about youth, in my opinion.

But it's the ones most into it that became chartered acountants the quickest. Now they indulge in organic vegetables and candles that smell of ginger and pretend they are at oneness with themselves. (I predict you'll be a Realtor or something by the time you're 30, napsterbater. But you'll get into meditation and pretend you are saving the world.)

Just as common is the story of the shy young kid, who gets drawn into new-ageism because of its empowerment sctick, and ends up losing his shyness as he meets more people and works with a few groups.

The new age has made gypsies out of lots of people. I just chuckle lightly at them and go about what I'm doing. But it's kind of charming, when I look at your average corporate drone, who has given his entire life over to playing the political game and some heartless corporation thats just going to outsource him at the faintest whiff of a profit. Yeah, he makes a lot of money now, but he can't enjoy any of it, because he's trapped in a marriage he hates and has bills and a couple of kids to provide for. He's destined by the gods of economic strife to plug away at a stupid job until the kids move out, at which he will finally be able to explore some other kind of life. But by that time, it's too late, the corporate culture is an inseperable part of him.

The new age has its hokey products and mass produced uselessness, but it's even more prevalent in the mainstream world with all the diet pills and exercise gyms and useless internet sites, spam, and what-have-you.

No - the universe had destined him for greater things and he was patiently waiting for a big break in... the fucking stock market!

For example the spanish pig seller who had inherited the business but was convinced he was happy because he understood Paulo Cuelho books. Or the Bulgarian pimp I knew who claimed The Matrix was the key to understanding reality and if it's not your favourite film your are controlled by *THEM*.

Oh dear, the new age didn't invent hubris. It's the same old people doing it for the same old reasons, just different excuses. People are just a little more conditioned to put up with it, that's all. I hear stories like that all the ttime, by people without a whiff of new-age fluff. I just keep on the lookout, and make sure it doesn't happen to me.

The irony is new-agers usually like me! Because of my interest in deep questions and quirky mannerisms they think I "understand". Only when I dismiss their astrology ramblings do they realise I'm not what they "sensed" me to be.

This is going to sound strange to you, after becoming a new-age apologetic, but I have found that there are very few people in life worth befriending. They come to you slowly and over time. I'll sit and jibe with a few of them for awhile, I might go to a party or two, and keep a lookout for the ones that are worth dealing with for more than three minutes. The sad fact of the world is that the vast majority of people aren't collected and together enough to make more than that worthwhile. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate people for what they are, it means that once I see that person for that, I don't necessarily want him in my life every day.

I might find this amazing chick who's great in bed, but that's all she's going to get to get into unless she finds a whole host of other attributes that would make the effort worthwhile. Same story, different era. The smart ones are picky, the others get burned.

I would see her every once in a while, and have great sex. But when it comes to anything else, there is always the huge boat of excuses people pull out whenever they don't want to deal with a person.

But I won't ever forget the couple who owns part of a co-housing coop in Atlanta. He has a degree and a job working for this small company with a one-man tech shop, and she has a nice job too that I can't remember because it didn't strike me at the time. They run a mailing list for polyamory, and they help those interested in the lifestyle a chance to chat and set up meetings, free of the sex ads and spam. They like to call themselves some frilly new-agey names, but they don't put on the airs to match, and answer just as easily to their first names. If you saw them walking down the street, you wouldn't even see them. Just another happy couple satisfied with their life. Just that alone would probably give you pause though. That and the fact that they are walking. Who walks these days?

No, I've learned to keep my social circle small. But no reason I can't meet a whole lot of people. It just increases the chances that I find another worthwhile person to add to my list of people I call friends. It's a short list.

koffee_kitten
09-11-2005, 03:12 PM
You make the so called...."new age" women sound like a bunch of horny old women that you can easily take advantage of by filling their heads with your rotted lies just to get them into bed. You are using their causes against them. Why would you need to do that? Are you just desperate because no normal thinking woman will have you ?

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 03:18 PM
Caught another one.

Sweetie, it's satire, though I doubt you will even read this seeing as you didn't bother to read the rest of the thread before posting. No worries though, I've made myself look like an ass here many times.

Blob
09-11-2005, 03:21 PM
Just another happy couple satisfied with their life. Just that alone would probably give you pause though.I'd pause and think smug gits who attribute their happiness not to the random fortune of being materially satisfied but to their own "cosmic superiority".
That and the fact that they are walking. Who walks these days?The entire non-American world.

Blob
09-11-2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Caught another one.hmmm... that's a good idea.

I think I too will start a thread and if anyone has the audacity to post in it declare "Aha! Caught you!"
Sweetie, it's satire, though I doubt you will even read this seeing as you didn't bother to read the rest of the thread before posting. The key to humour is not having to explain "that was a joke".

Besides - are you saying that you do not exploit people's beliefs to get them into bed? Didn't sound like you were making it up to me.

Evakian
09-11-2005, 03:43 PM
The entire non-American world.

Aziz:
Tiger Hand always beats paper

U-S-A! U-S-A! :D

Actually Blob, that's hardly true. Americans most assuredly drive much more, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't drive.
Many americans in the cities walk or take buses of a sort also. The Europe has its share of cars and drivers, as does Canada and Mexico, Japan, places in China, Taiwan, Kuwait and other Middle Eastern countries. Heck, even a few cities in africa can be found with car rush hour traffic.

The key to humour is not having to explain "that was a joke".

True. Mostly.
What if its really dry or dark humor that fools don't always pick up on and get offended? such as ethnic jokes? Flavorless jokes told on the internet without any tone, voice, or visibility of the wannabe "comedian" so it is also difficult to pick up on for some.

I did find much humor to be had in his passage, but he is definitely being serious about this story by the looks of it :thumbs:

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 03:55 PM
I'd pause and think smug gits who attribute their happiness not to the random fortune of being materially satisfied but to their own "cosmic superiority".

My point is, they are just average Joe Blow American. I hate Americans as much as the next guy. but hey, I gotta live with them. I'd rather be nice to them and listen to their troubles and give them encouragement then get on the internet and whine about how self-righteous they are. If they start being ugly, well, I can get a little ugly too, and we can have us a right fun time getting all our emotions out. The world is a big scary place. We all have to cope.

The entire non-American world.

Pulling out the anthropomorphist argument on a silly little joke. Oh I forgot. You people can't take them.

hmmm... that's a good idea.

I think I too will start a thread and if anyone has the audacity to post in it declare "Aha! Caught you!"

Go right ahead. You might have a little bit of fun while you are at it. I won't stop you. I think you need it.

The key to humour is not having to explain "that was a joke".

Bullshit. Hundreds of kids all over the world play pranks. The fact that others don't think they are very funny doesn't mean the kids aren't laughing their asses off, along with everybody else in the world who thinks this world would be a hell of a lot better if we just learned to laugh at ourselves a little more.

Besides - are you saying that you do not exploit people's beliefs to get them into bed? Didn't sound like you were making it up to me.

Nope. I actually don't like sex much, believe it or not. I've had it a few times, with different kinds of people, and it always falls flat. Last count, five people, depending on your definition of having sex. That is more than a lot of people, especially at my age. I didn't start until I was twenty. I don't have to rely on exploitation to get laid. I'm good looking, pretty smart, can hold a decent conversation, and I don't treat people like shit. That is all women want out of a man, and they are even willing to fudge a little on the good-looking part. The only reason I waited until I was twenty is because, believe it or not, I am really shy and introverted. There were plenty of girls who hit on me, but I ran away every single time. Or played those stupid third-grader games well into my junior year of high school. You know the deal? I like you, but I can't figure out how to talk to you, so I will torment you in class? I actually did that shit in my junior year.

New-age like philosophy helped me to break out of my shell and start dealing with women in a real way. Among a whole host of other real-world benefits.

I love people. I love watching them, I love talking with them, I love making love to them. Each of their lives are special to me. Sticking it in gets old after awhile. Just making out does wonders for me. Giving massages, caressing faces, that sort of shit. I can never get enough touch. The rest of my body is so much more sensitive to touch than my penis. I'm like a friggen cat.

So no, even though I undoubtedly could get a lot more sex than I get now, I don't exploit women. And I really don't think I would have the heart to do that.

Evakian
09-11-2005, 04:47 PM
they are just average Joe Blow American

Chances are so are you

I hate Americans as much as the next guy.

Seeing as how you live in america, the guy next to you probably loves america, so you must hold it in high esteem. ;)
Are you not american?

I actually don't like sex much, believe it or not.
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I love making love to them

The contradiction police are on the way to your house!

I love watching them, I love talking with them

Ah, i see, are you some type of European?

I am really shy and introverted.

Often the case with such fellows like you and me, is two types, say type 1 and type 2
Type one holds themselves in high esteem and carries themselves with a great weight even though they are quiet, pride screams from them. Such as you have shown us.
Type two belittles themselves and has trouble coping with all manner of human interaction, coping with some sort of mental issues leading them to hold themselves low at all times. Such as me.

Neither type is bad, overconfidence helps you accomplish some things, underconfidence keeps you from damaging yourself.

I'm like a friggen cat.

There is no such breed :D

I'm good looking, pretty smart, can hold a decent conversation, and I don't treat people like shit.

Hmmm, i have never heard anyone describe themselves in such a way.

I'd rather be nice to them and listen to their troubles and give them encouragement then get on the internet and whine about how self-righteous they are.

Alright, well at least you aren't a trav or FT.

I love people.

Why? ;)

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 05:23 PM
Chances are so are you

Never disputed. To give you a clue as to what that argument was about, Blob happens to hate new-agers. Thinks they are all high-and-mighty all up in their own shit. I made a series of posts painting them as ordinary people. And there ain't nothing wrong with ordinary people. The whole, "I hate Americans as much as the next quy" sctick was facetious, which you should understand now that you know I am American. Wait a minute, I'm getting ahead of myself here.

Seeing as how you live in america, the guy next to you probably loves america, so you must hold it in high esteem.
Are you not american?

Yes, I am an American. I admitted so in the very first thread I participated on. I have an ongoing love-hate relationship with this country to rival Lucy and Ricky, were my words. It is the honest truth, and I am not going to have you fucktards pin me down as somebody that either loves or hates America, because both attitudes are bad, depending on who you ask. It's a dumbass argument anyway. Go tell some bloke from Canada that he's anti-Canadian. He'll laugh in your face. I really don't care for all the nationalistic bullshit that infects public discourse.

I love watching them, I love talking with them

Ah, i see, are you some type of European?

Different paragraph buddy, I was talking about people in general.

Often the case with such fellows like you and me, is two types, say type 1 and type 2
Type one holds themselves in high esteem and carries themselves with a great weight even though they are quiet, pride screams from them. Such as you have shown us.
Type two belittles themselves and has trouble coping with all manner of human interaction, coping with some sort of mental issues leading them to hold themselves low at all times. Such as me.

Neither type is bad, overconfidence helps you accomplish some things, underconfidence keeps you from damaging yourself.

Nicely put, and a spot-on characterization. That has been my experience as well.

There is no such breed

Just wait until the geneticists start mucking around with pet DNA.

Hmmm, i have never heard anyone describe themselves in such a way.

That's because most of the people who are don't want to admit it to themselves, because they think this will make them egotistical. They subconsciously are beating themselves constantly for not being good enough, and turning themselves into their own worst enemies. It is a bad attitude in a society that depends on tooting one's own horn to get anywhere, hence why most people never actually do anything in their lives.

Alright, well at least you aren't a trav or FT.

I am unfamiliar with the terms. Please explain.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 05:26 PM
Oh, and one more thing. You really need to get laid if you think there is no difference between having sex and making love. They are entirely different animals.

Evakian
09-11-2005, 05:44 PM
I am unfamiliar with the terms. Please explain.

Trav- for Travh20, the allforums member who is humorous and right wing, also likes to insult
FT- Freethinker, the allforums member who is stern and so far left he falls out of his seat, also likes to insult

Evakian
09-11-2005, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Oh, and one more thing. You really need to get laid if you think there is no difference between having sex and making love. They are entirely different animals.

making love-

n : sexual activities (often including sexual intercourse) between two people

have sex-

v : have sexual intercourse with

I understand what you are trying to get across, but the misuse of the terms does not differentiate them.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 06:41 PM
I understand what you are trying to get across, but the misuse of the terms does not differentiate them.

No, I guess it wouldn't, not if you were a frickin' Vulcan.

I can see it now, Mr. Spock criticizing me on the finer points of getting laid.

Way to use a dictionary, chief. But the books don't always indicate colloquial usage.

What, are you trolling for debate points? You are going to have to tie that back into the main argument if you want it to mean anything even if you were right.

Evakian
09-11-2005, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
No, I guess it wouldn't, not if you were a frickin' Vulcan.

I can see it now, Mr. Spock criticizing me on the finer points of getting laid.

Way to use a dictionary, chief. But the books don't always indicate colloquial usage.

What, are you trolling for debate points? You are going to have to tie that back into the main argument if you want it to mean anything even if you were right.

Hmmm, you seem to have a horrible sense of humor. Mr. Spock, wow i'm hysterical :rolleyes:

They dictionary definitions did in this case, determine the colloquial usage of both terms. Making love has a different bearing than plain sexual intercourse, but not in the way it has been used over time, the two are synonymous now.

trolling? TROLLING?

*uncontrollably starts tapping pen*
*falls to floor*
*veins bust*

I think we have a new all time most annoying word, well second in line to the abbrev. OMG.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 08:05 PM
I am going to keep my mouth (fingers?) shut because I really don't want VilePagan to close this thread too. I want to hear Blob's answer to this.

Napsterbater
09-11-2005, 08:20 PM
Well, aside from this:

Making love has a different bearing than plain sexual intercourse, but not in the way it has been used over time, the two are synonymous now.

You are incapable of making such a statement. In order to do so, you would have to be inside the brains of every American and every Britisher. The dictionary cannot be the final arbiter of language. That rests in the hands of the people actually using it.

And besides, you are still arguing usage, and making no real point here.

Blob
09-11-2005, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
Americans most assuredly drive much more, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't drive.
Many americans in the cities walk or take buses of a sort also. The Europe has its share of cars and drivers, as does Canada and Mexico, Japan, places in China, Taiwan, Kuwait and other Middle Eastern countries. Heck, even a few cities in africa can be found with car rush hour traffic. There are places in America where it is near-on impossible to not have a car. This struck me when I stayed in a town called Palm Desert. There were no pavements (sidewalks). You never see that in Europe.

Blob
09-11-2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Bullshit. Hundreds of kids all over the world play pranks. The fact that others don't think they are very funny doesn't mean the kids aren't laughing their asses off, along with everybody else in the worldUpon reflection you are correct. Consider how sophisticated European irony often goes over the heads of Americans with their brash 'wisecracks'. For example look at how my deft wit has reduced you to the following clumsy insults:
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Pulling out the anthropomorphist argument on a silly little joke. Oh I forgot. You people can't take them.You got me there. An non-American would never make a self-depricating quip such as (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=156287#post156287): I stop being stuffy (as much as it is possible for an Englishman to not be stuffy, that is.)
Originally posted by Napsterbater
Go right ahead. You might have a little bit of fun while you are at it. I won't stop you. I think you need it.How deliciously ironic coming the self-appointed fun-policeman (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13485) of the forum: If you have issues with arguments, please feel free to point out where and how you think they are wrong. But keep any purely reactionary arguments in your head for a little while before you air them out, will you?

Of course I am unable to loosen up on these forums and would never say something like (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=153890#post153890): Fly-by comments, put downs and sarcasm are part of the fun here at allforums ... We ... share a joke the next. It's a lively forum. I come here ... to be silly.

That conceded, you are once again generalising to avoid the actual point, which was: Kitten expressed repugnance at your exploitation of people's beliefs to shag them; you said it was satire; I pointed out that it wasn't satire it was real anecdotes.

(If that all goes over your head I recommended arguing from ignorance, making distracting generalisations and issuing insults in true new-age spirit).

Blob
09-11-2005, 11:37 PM
Blob: "[the new-ager is] family and I love him dearly"
Napsterbater: "Blob happens to hate new-agers"

Answers on a postcard please viewers. :confused:

Blob
09-11-2005, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
Hmmm, you seem to have a horrible sense of humor. Mr. Spock, wow i'm hysterical :rolleyes:

napsterbater: bullshit bullshit bullshit
other-posters: you're talking bullshit
napsterbater: don't be so stuffy / logical / spocklike. and now for some more bullshit...

Napsterbater
09-12-2005, 01:08 AM
First, to address the actual meat.

That conceded, you are once again generalising to avoid the actual point, which was: Kitten expressed repugnance at your exploitation of people's beliefs to shag them; you said it was satire; I pointed out that it wasn't satire it was real anecdotes.

Did you forget the whole rest of my post?

They were not real anecdotes at all. It was a satirical piece done in the style of "Been there, done that," complete with fake stories written for pure shock value. I've never even been to a yoga class, nor would I have the confidence to start chatting up the ladies there. More than likely I would wait until they come to me. The second post was a moderately hyperbolic exaggeration of what really happened, I didn't shamelessly hit on her, we just talked. It was months before she actually seduced me, only when I posted to a regional pagan group that I was moving.

I post writings like this quite frequently on my blog. Funny and disturbing pieces designed to get one to think about things one might have overlooked.

That being said, I do have a horrible under-appreciation for the finer points of British wit. Something I would like to rectify. I have the whole Monty Python's Flying Circus collection, that I will get around to watching soon.

Blob: "[the new-ager is] family and I love him dearly"
Napsterbater: "Blob happens to hate new-agers"

Oh please. Maybe I should have made it, "Blob seems to hate new-agers," the effect of which you certainly give with these lovely quotes:

screaming money-lovers

New-agers are pompous and up their own arses.

Bunch of pompous smug hypocrites

Shameless self-worshipping hypocrites

Outside of the wrapper of a designed piece of mass communications, like your website, they do indeed give that impression. You are talking out one side of your mouth and are being every bit as pompous and hypocritical as the people you go to great lengths to demean, while you sit up on your high horse like you have some sort of valid reason for being happy, while everybody else's happiness is just self-attributed to "because I'm better."

My last name may be Pot, but you are just as black as I ever was, your oh so dear relative notwithstanding.

Now, the kicker. I really don't give a shit. I meet bigots, thieves, morons, racists, hypocrites, what-have-you all the time. And I haven't met a person yet who wasn't worthy of a fair shake. Taking a person at face value isn't just some naive fantasy-world imaginings, it is actually pretty practical, combined with a suitably sensitive bullshit detector. It makes you alive to possibilities you never knew existed. It enhances creativity. And it lets you grow your social circle in ways you might never have imagined. So long as you know what a person can and can't be trusted with, personal problems can be kept to a minimum.

So some dude hates new-agers. That's cool, maybe he has some good points. And he does. Interesting. He's almost completely right. It doesn't justify the hatred, but hate makes a person interesting. Who wants to deal with someone who loves everything?

Let's find out a little more about him.

Repeat that model with dozens, even hundreds of people, and you start to be able to make some pretty sharp judgements about people. Without all the love-hate stuff getting in the way.

Yeah, the conspiracy stuff was pretty much bull. But why does he think that? Maybe he joined the military and picked it up from his buddies? Maybe he got a bad discharge and it's been fucking him ever since, and now he has a grudge? Who knows?

After awhile you don't need to just sit around and ask questions, you just start feeling it. You can relax and not worry about offending the other, and just do whatever you want, because you are suitably skilled in interactions that you can defuse any situation you get into.

It becomes a whole philosophy for life. You give what you can, and receive what they are willing to give you. You can do what you want, unburdened by silly ideas. I may well end up living quietly in Utah, working at a temp agency with my own low-rent place.

I don't even like staying with other people rent-free. I actually prefer paying rent. Because then I don't have to put up with their shit. It gets too bad, I can just not deal with them. I might become a martial arts instructor, with my own school. As good a place as any, as far as I'm concerned. But I was cursed with a high intelligence that would be really useful to help solve world problems. The "Big Time" bug might hit me and I would be compelled to finish school and do everything I can to get on some cutting edge research projects.

Anyway, this has gone on way too long and I am sure you are patently uninterested in it. I'm done arguing. Make of it what you will.

Blob
09-12-2005, 01:20 AM
screaming money-lovers

their own arses.

Bunch of pompous smug hypocrites

Shameless self-worshipping hypocrites

*remorseless Scooby snigger*

You are talking out one side of your mouth and are being every bit as pompous and hypocritical as the people you go to great lengths to demean, while you sit up on your high horse like you have some sort of valid reason for being happy, while everybody else's happiness is just self-attributed to "because I'm better." Correct. My atheism is a middle-class indulgent hobby which allows me to flex the education I have been fortunate to receive but in no sense 'deserve'. I find new-agism distasteful because it declares the universe has purpose and therefore the practitioner has rightfully been designated their comfort and contentment and are deserving of it.

Napsterbater
09-12-2005, 09:24 AM
Great. That being said, let me congratulate you on your hilarious British wit. It definately had me chuckling. I was definately wrong there. Your debates seem to be every bit as much art form as my writings.

Napsterbater
09-12-2005, 05:09 PM
I like your declaration that your atheism is a hobby, I wish more atheists would admit that.

Is the mere declaration that the universe has purpose distasteful to you, or is it only when coupled with a displacement of personal responsibility?

MotherKali
09-26-2005, 09:02 AM
I'm just not even going to comment...