View Full Version : Hurricane Relief gets a New Boss
Imagineer
09-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Michael Brown has been relieved of responsibility for the ongoing FEMA operation on the gulf coast. He will remain as overall director of FEMA, and will go back to Washington to work on planning for other disasters.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/09/katrina.impact/index.html
I guess even President Bush has figured out that he was incompetent, and kicked him upstairs in favor of someone who might be able to organize the operation better. It is too little, too late, for too many.
LionelHutz
09-09-2005, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Imagineer
Michael Brown has been relieved of responsibility for the ongoing FEMA operation on the gulf coast. He will remain as overall director of FEMA, and will go back to Washington to work on planning for other disasters.
Yeah - apparently he's in charge of the disaster planning for the next hurricane. Seriously. I mean what the hell is that about?
Originally posted by Imagineer
I guess even President Bush has figured out that he was incompetent, and kicked him upstairs in favor of someone who might be able to organize the operation better. It is too little, too late, for too many.
Well, he figured out that he's a political liability. I don't know if he actually figured out he was in competant, otherwise why would he still be around. It's said that Bush is loyal to a fault, and I think this proves it (if handing out medals to the people caught flatfooted by 9/11 didn't do it).
Vilepagan
09-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by LionelHutz
Yeah - apparently he's in charge of the disaster planning for the next hurricane. Seriously. I mean what the hell is that about?
No shit...with him in charge I'm starting to worry about hurricane damage in Wisconsin.
Well, he figured out that he's a political liability. I don't know if he actually figured out he was in competant, otherwise why would he still be around. It's said that Bush is loyal to a fault, and I think this proves it (if handing out medals to the people caught flatfooted by 9/11 didn't do it).
Whatever happened to accountability? How did George Tenet end up with the Medal of Freedom?
Imagineer
09-09-2005, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
No shit...with him in charge I'm starting to worry about hurricane damage in Wisconsin.
Global warming would have to get a lot worse for there to be hurricanes on Lake Michigan. It would take a lot more planning than Brown is capable of to arrange it.
500lbguerilla
09-10-2005, 10:43 AM
This was botched soooo bad because Bush used FEMA as a dumping ground for his political contributors. Appearently #1, #2 and #3 were all people with no experience in disaster management but merely campaign contributors. This should be distributed far and wide...yet another legitimate ground for impeachment.
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Two Bush 2000 Florida recount aides were rewarded with top FEMA posts
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002346.html
Evakian
09-10-2005, 10:51 AM
This should be distributed far and wide...yet another legitimate ground for impeachment.
Yet another....first you actually need some before you use that terminology to imply you are adding to it.
And FEMA's inability is their fault, this "bumble" as it is being overblown, does not directly reflect on the actions of the president. If there was ever any president who should have been impeached i would only have picked FDR, for getting the presidency 4 times. Sadly, it was not until after that fourth that it was limited to 2.
500lbguerilla
09-10-2005, 10:58 AM
It goes beyond "bubmble" they actually stopped others from resucing people while they did nothing. I already argued this in another thread, its criminal negligence.
Hypothetical situation- Suppose the cops respond to a call about a fight. They arrive on the scene and instead of doing their job by stopping the fight as best they can they stand around and watch. No suppose other people come up to try and stop the fight and the cops get in their way and threaten to arrest them for doign such, allowing the fight to continue. Now if one of those combatants dies as a result of the fight the cops are criminally negligent. Someone died as a result of them not only not doing their job but preventiong others from stopping it as well. Nowit turns out that these guys weren't really cops in the first place ut actually a few bozos who paid the police cheif a few thousand $ for one night of pretending to be cops. Should the police cheif be held accountable for the mans death? I think so.
500lbguerilla
09-10-2005, 11:03 AM
BTW I can't remember whether its was Brown or Chertoff who said that they thgought everything was OK in NO because they remembered reading that "NO dodged the bullet." Not one single actual newspaper in America ran that headline. In fact the only place that did was World Net Daily. I find it highly disturbing that head of government use this as their newssource.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46025
Evakian
09-10-2005, 11:05 AM
They arrive on the scene and instead of doing their job by stopping the fight as best they can they stand around and watch.
And place bets :D
In this situation: the police chief needs to face the consequences of taking such bribes, the two men need to face the consequences of impersonating officers and not getting involved, the man in the fight who killed the other needs to face the consequences of the death.
The man who killed the other gets the highest penalty for this, seeing as he actually did the killing
Boy you hate the cops
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And now, these are not presidential bribes, but campaign financial support. If Heinz or George Soros or NAACP sponsored a liberal candidate no its not bribes in that case, sheesh:rolleyes:
500lbguerilla
09-10-2005, 11:23 AM
Nope its called criminal negligence and it goes all the way up the line. If the death of a person is a foreseeable consquence of thier action (particularly when it also goes against their job) then they are respopnsible.
Vilepagan
09-10-2005, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Nope its called criminal negligence...
Actually in the case of a public official it would usually be malfeasance, or misconduct in public office. At least on the State level...with a federal official I'm not sure what the term is...