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Decka
08-31-2005, 06:27 AM
here it is... straight from the horses mouth....

The lady is GLAD bush didn't meet her.

"I look back on it, and I am very, very, very grateful he did not meet with me, because we have sparked and galvanized the peace movement," Sheehan told The Associated Press. "If he'd met with me, then I would have gone home, and it would have ended there."

What a hypocrit... she says she wants to talk to Bush, but is glad he didn't show because of all the attention she got....

That pretty much proves it wasn't her "care" for her son that she wanted, just some attention... which the media glady gave.

What a joke... Sheehan is a joke, end of story.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167886,00.html

silverbulletkc
08-31-2005, 07:51 AM
And the best part of this Sheehan debachle...was when the neighbor came out with a gun, fired it into the air and literally scared half of the protestors shitless. :)

Freethinker
08-31-2005, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
And the best part of this Sheehan debachle...was when the neighbor came out with a gun, fired it into the air and literally scared half of the protestors shitless. :)

That one neighbor demonstrated to the world how a real American thinks.

If people try to promote peace, if they say things you disagree with, bring out the guns.

No wonder you're so proud.

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silverbulletkc
08-31-2005, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
That one neighbor demonstrated to the world how a real American thinks.

If people try to promote peace, if they say things you disagree with, bring out the guns.

No wonder you're so proud.
I meant it more as a comedic moment, rather than an actual, rational thought, but whatever. Besides, there's better ways to promote peace than bringing out the big guns. ALMOST everyone knows that.

Freethinker
08-31-2005, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
I meant it more as a comedic moment

Oh, absolutely.

An angry person firing a gun, from a dark recess somewhere, at night, at a peaceful gathering of several hundred people, frightening women and children who had never harmed or threatened them in any way. What could be funnier?

Originally posted by silverbulletkc
there's better ways to promote peace than bringing out the big guns. ALMOST everyone knows that.

Yes.

ALMOST everyone, with the exception of, apparently, the redneck, Rightwing Cindy-haters among us.

silverbulletkc
08-31-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Oh, absolutely.

An angry person firing a gun, from a dark recess somewhere, at night, at a peaceful gathering of several hundred people, frightening women and children who had never harmed or threatened them in any way. What could be funnier?
It was in broad daylight, farm in the middle of nowhere, away from everyone, only one shot. Now if he had fired into the crowd, then it wouldn't be so funny. People sometimes do extreme things when they get agitated.

Freethinker
08-31-2005, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by silverbulletkc
It was in broad daylight

I stand corrected. I thought i read an article stating a shot was fired at night.

Originally posted by silverbulletkc
farm in the middle of nowhere, away from everyone, only one shot.

But that 'one shot' had the desired effect, didn't it.

It terrorized the gathering.

Funny stuff.

Originally posted by silverbulletkc
Now if he had fired into the crowd, then it wouldn't be so funny.

Awww....come on!

Where that ribald sense of humor?

A shot INTO the crowd would have REALLY terrorized them, and would have been even MORE hilarious, wouldn't it?...........you know, from a conservative point of view?

Originally posted by silverbulletkc
People sometimes do extreme things when they get agitated.

Yeah.....and nothing seems to agitate a redneck more than people expecting the politicians in charge to answer a question about what "noble cause" our troops are dying for.

The shooter would no doubt be less angry if everyone would just fall into line with him and help him wave his flag.

Decka
08-31-2005, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
[B]
But that 'one shot' had the desired effect, didn't it.

It terrorized the gathering.

It made all these mommies who thought they were tough cookies look like what they really are.... mommies. If they want to play hardball, then a gunshot shouldnt really do much should it?

if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

and OH NO, it "terrorized" the gathering... and what if a bunch of black panthers were standing in front of bush's ranch and someone came and shot a gun in the air? i don't think you'd be saying it "terrorized the gathering" then.

Originally posted by Freethinker
[B]
Awww....come on!

Where that ribald sense of humor?

A shot INTO the crowd would have REALLY terrorized them, and would have been even MORE hilarious, wouldn't it?...........you know, from a conservative point of view?

thats retarded... a shot in the air is NOTHING. if these ladies are allowed to sit in somones driveway... and it pisses off the neighbor, then hey its HIS house, he has every right to try to get them to leave in my opinion.... if its what he wants. Its not like these ladies have some government right to stand at Bush's driveway.

You have it all wrong... the guy probably wasn't even "angry"... he just wanted them to leave, so he did something to make them leave.... i love how you just label it as some angry shotgun-carrying redneck....

500lbguerilla
08-31-2005, 12:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but what that guy did IS Terrorism. Yeah real hilarious...

Decka - You quote proves nothing. She just realized that Bush had made a bigger mistake by not meeting with her because it helped to boost (the otherwise completely ignored by Corporate media) Anti-War movement.

Shes still leaving at the end of the month. You just can't stop whining though can you...

Decka
08-31-2005, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Correct me if I'm wrong but what that guy did IS Terrorism. Yeah real hilarious...

if that's "terrorism"... than so is 4th of July fireworks.
Originally posted by 500lbguerilla

Decka - You quote proves nothing. She just realized that Bush had made a bigger mistake by not meeting with her because it helped to boost (the otherwise completely ignored by Corporate media) Anti-War movement.


the quote proves EVERYTHING...

she's glad she didn't succeed, because the media ate up her failing....

if she was REALLY a "concerned mother"... she'd be mad that bush didn't meet with her.... but her quote CLEARLY convays that it was her anti-war agenda she was after, not an explanation for her son....

and that is that.

Echo2
08-31-2005, 01:25 PM
SHooting a gun into the air is against the law in most places. (though I doubt it is in texas). And it can be far from harmless, that bullet has to come down somewhere.

Purposely shooting a gun off in order to frighten people is a form of terrorism. The man was trying to cause terror within the group of people he disagreed with.

Your psuedo psychoanalysis of this woman is amazing. You claim to know what she was thinking befor hand, durring and after her vigil. What school of mind reading did you graduate from?

If the media hadn't latched on to her cause, bush still wouldn't have met with her and her son still would be dead. The fact that the media latched onto her cause and the anti war movement road her coat tails is completely beside the point. Her stateing that she is glad that these groups attached themselves to her has nothing to do with how she was feeling when she started this.

The funniest part of this is that you wingnuts continuelly put her down for her vigil and blame her for tthe antiwar groups latching onto her cause, when the bottom line is if that idiot you defend so staunchly and given her 5 minutes of his time she wouldn't have been on the fromt page, the anti war group wouldn't have had a cause to pull people together under and the media would have bored itself with the entire thing withing 24 hours.

Decka
09-01-2005, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
And it can be far from harmless, that bullet has to come down somewhere.

that is a pretty weak arguement.
Originally posted by Echo2

Purposely shooting a gun off in order to frighten people is a form of terrorism. The man was trying to cause terror within the group of people he disagreed with.

yea, but it wasn't JUST that he may or may not of disagreed with them, they were gathered near his property, so he did something minor and harmless to get them away, i see as just doing what you need to do...... i thought these were "tough ladies"?
Originally posted by Echo2

Your psuedo psychoanalysis of this woman is amazing. You claim to know what she was thinking befor hand, durring and after her vigil. What school of mind reading did you graduate from?

no, i don't know, i have hunches and opinions, but that is it.

Originally posted by Echo2

If the media hadn't latched on to her cause, bush still wouldn't have met with her and her son still would be dead.

yea, her son would be dead because HE signed up to be in the army and he died in a WAR... WOW WHAT A CONCEPT!!!
Originally posted by Echo2

The funniest part of this is that you wingnuts continuelly put her down for her vigil and blame her for tthe antiwar groups latching onto her cause, when the bottom line is if that idiot you defend so staunchly and given her 5 minutes of his time she wouldn't have been on the fromt page, the anti war group wouldn't have had a cause to pull people together under and the media would have bored itself with the entire thing withing 24 hours.

well, once he goes and meets with Cindy, then ANY old idiot could go sit in front of bush's ranch and he'd HAVE to go talk to THEM too....

Its the freakin president, he doesn't have time to talk to any old nut that sits at his driveway.

Vilepagan
09-01-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Decka
"I look back on it, and I am very, very, very grateful he did not meet with me, because we have sparked and galvanized the peace movement," Sheehan told The Associated Press. "If he'd met with me, then I would have gone home, and it would have ended there."

What a hypocrit... she says she wants to talk to Bush, but is glad he didn't show because of all the attention she got....



Look at the quote again Decka...where does she say she wanted attention for herself?

Freethinker
09-01-2005, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Decka
It made all these mommies who thought they were tough cookies look like what they really are.... mommies. If they want to play hardball, then a gunshot shouldnt really do much should it? .......a shot in the air is NOTHING.

I see.

You contend that these ladies, these mothers, who in all the time they have been there have not made ONE violent move, have not said ONE word that indicated any violent intent---- are guilty of **playing hardball**.

While a person near them fires off a gun, with the clear intent (as you have previously agreed was the case) of getting them to "move", to leave.........and in your estimation it should be regarded as "nothing".

Your far-Right partisanship seems to have severely impaired any reasoning ability you might have possessed.

Decka
09-02-2005, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Freethinker
I see.

You contend that these ladies, these mothers, who in all the time they have been there have not made ONE violent move, have not said ONE word that indicated any violent intent---- are guilty of **playing hardball**.

While a person near them fires off a gun, with the clear intent (as you have previously agreed was the case) of getting them to "move", to leave.........and in your estimation it should be regarded as "nothing".

Your far-Right partisanship seems to have severely impaired any reasoning ability you might have possessed.

Nah...the WHOLE THING is really not a big deal...

Cindy Sheehan is NOT a big deal... she's ONE mother

And all the others, what 50-100 other libby moms??? Its NOT a big deal...

and firing a gun in the air??? NOT a big deal....

its just funny that they all ran off from a gunshot.... like anyone is going to fire a gun into a crowd because they are sitting somewhere..... I would say the whole gun-firing situtation is beyond "right and wrong"... and it came down to survival of the fittest..... Its really not a big enough deal to be analyzing.... it WASNT a public place where the gun was shot IN THE AIR.....

and YES these ladies are playing hardball.... if they want an explanation of why their kids were killed? they should go ask the terrorist car bombers... not Bush.

M&Mdelite
09-02-2005, 05:17 PM
I think Cindy did want Bush to talk to her in the beginning. She had no idea that she would get so much attention.

Anyway if she is a 'joke'....she is just a joke trying to talk to a joke. They're even.

Overdose
09-02-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by M&Mdelite
Anyway if she is a 'joke'....she is just a joke trying to talk to a joke. They're even.
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