In keeping with the arguments on capital punishment...

Throughout history, society has had criminals, doing things the norm deems wrong. The criminally insane have been committing crimes and no matter what the penalties they do it anyway. Pedophilia, bestiality, rape, arson, homicide, suicide (after the homicide or other felony), torture and sometimes even slavery.

Let us hear your thoughts on various types felonies, their punishments, whether they are just or not, history of criminals and their crimes, why this occurs and keeps occuring, possible solutions etc...

This should make for a good bit of discussion of the topic. And i felt like treating to to some last words of the executed:

Hurrah for anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life.
Last words on the gallows.
~~ George Engel

I love you.
Spoken to the executioner.
Executed by injection, New York.
~~ Sean Flannagan, d. June 23, 1989

How about this for a headline for tomorrow's paper? French fries.
Executed in electric chair in Oklahoma.
~~ James French, d. 1966

Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel.
Executed in electric chair in New York.
~~ George Appel, d. 1928

Let's do it!
Executed by firing squad, Utah.
~~ Gary Gilmore, d. January 17, 1977

I'd rather be fishing.
Executed in electric chair, Louisiana.
~~ Jimmy Glass, d. June 12, 1987

Lock and load. Let's do it.
Executed by injection, Texas.
~~ G. W. Green, d. November 12, 1991

Such is Life
Executed by hanging.
~~ Ned Kelly, Australian bushranger, d. 1880

I did not get my Spaghetti-O's, I got spaghetti. I want the press to know this.
Executed by injection, Oklahoma.
~~ Thomas J. Grasso, d. March 20, 1995

So let us begin...

Well lets start with history, history will repeat itself. Now if we take the killer out of society{death} can he/she repeat themselfs? Until there is some type of brian changing machine{med.} Killers rapist torturerers etc.. will still do their crime. The only way to stop them is by death. I realize no one wants to have the nickname of Tommy the trigger puller, but I have respect for those that can give justice. Justice is not the same as revenge, justice is getting rid of the problem without anymore cost{lives money etc} to society.

Interesting the use of the term "Insane."

Which is not a medical term, but rather a legal term.
As we know, there are many and varying forms of mental illness.
But, under the law, the McNaughten law, in use in most states, and one imported from England, if the defendant knows and understands the nature of his acts, and, KNOWS THEY'RE WRONG, then that person is sane.
So, they should be punished--severely.

Which is why Andrea Yates' insanity defense ( she who drowned her five kids in a bathrub), was a joke. Under Texas law, and according to testimony and her own confession and statements to police, she clearly understood what her actions meant, and that they were WRONG, and so was correctly adjudged sane.

Why there was an outcry over this is beyond me. And the amount of sympathy shown this woman is even more bizarre, in my eyes.

She drowned her 5 kids or killed her husband? or was that the Harris' thing?

don't forget the woman that drowned her kids in the car, she was sane.

Oh yes, good old Susan Smith, "Mother of the Year", who we were all supposed to feel sorry for because she had a "hard" childhood.
Not as hard as her kid's was.
I recall how her husband and father of the murdered kids called the jury "cowards" for not giving her a death sentence. Truer words were never spoken.