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Echo2
08-02-2005, 12:13 PM
One Million Reasons to end the war in Iraq (Code Pink)
About One Million Reasons
CODEPINK has launched an innovative, new initiative called One Million Reasons to End the War in Iraq.
The idea is for people from all over the world to write in with their reasons why we must stop the occupation. We want people from all walks of life--celebrities, veterans, mothers, environmentalists, people of faith, health care providers, teachers, students, elected officials, union members, business leaders--to join the global call.
On September 26, as part of the big Washington DC mobilization against the war, we'll be delivering these messages directly to the White House, as well as to the Iraqi people through the Iraqi media. The reasons will be delivered by people in the 'uniforms' of the occupations or organizations they represent. We want to show the breadth of the community being ignored by the White House and send a message to the world.
We encourage organizations to join in and be represented. Go to become a supporter and send this message out to your community.
Go to
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and send your reasons in.
Ask your friends to sign-up with their reason to end the war in Iraq, and tell them about the three massive days of action against the war on Sept 24-26 and ask them to join us in Washington DC for this soon-to-be historic weekend!
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Travh20
08-08-2005, 05:24 PM
the radical islamists will thank you
Jester
08-08-2005, 06:13 PM
I have a reason to end the war:
It'll make great reality TV to watch an entire country go down the shitter, while we sit on our butts munching on Cheetohs.
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Jester
I have a reason to end the war:
It'll make great reality TV to watch an entire country go down the shitter......
Huh??????
Are you aserting that the US will "go down the shitter" if the war is ended??
Maybe you meant Iraq would........although there doesn't seem to be enoulf left standing in that country to go "down the shitter"
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Travh20
the radical islamists will thank you
Actually, ALL Islamists throughout the world would no doubt be very thankful.
If America ended its crusade to wipe out the Muslims, every Islamist would breath a sigh of relief, not just the tiny majority that are 'radicals'.
Jester
08-08-2005, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Huh??????
Are you aserting that the US will "go down the shitter" if the war is ended??
Maybe you meant Iraq would........although there doesn't seem to be enoulf left standing in that country to go "down the shitter" Yes, I was talking about Iraq. There's plenty of potential for things to get even worse over there, possibly along the lines of all-out civil war and genocide.
Decka
08-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
If America ended its crusade to wipe out the Muslims, every Islamist would breath a sigh of relief, not just the tiny majority that are 'radicals'.
Nice spin idiot...
Yea, try to make it a religious war... how dumb are you?
hell, it could have been ANY religion that is doing what these terrorists are doing and we'd do the same thing. Dont act like the united states has some agenda to get rid of the muslims.... there's no money in it. You have no proof of it either, just trying to fling mud....
while we are at the baseless accusations... i heard Freethinker's mom works on a corner in Harlem!
They both make about the same amount of sense.
Evakian
08-08-2005, 09:18 PM
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo burn!
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Decka
Yea, try to make it a religious war... how dumb are you?
Excuse me....but BUSH is the one who is getting tons of mileage out of it being a *religious war*..........as evidenced by that fact that the sycophantic Moral Majority religiwackos who support Bush are SO easily incited to hatred toward the "evildoer" wrong-god Muslim world.
Bush himself is on record as refering to it as a *crusade*.
**In making it a religious war, how dumb is BUSH?**.... THAT is the question you OUGHT to be asking yourself......
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I have yet to hear of a Conservative or member of the "Religious Right" from Bush down offering up a prayer for the Iraqis that have died due to their actions.......given their incessant crowing about how they're the Party of "morality", it seems odd. To me it points to a pathological mentality. I dont think the majority of Conservatives really do have empathy with other human beings, and it can be argued increasingly that 'Conservatism' is a mental disorder.
Evakian
08-08-2005, 09:41 PM
You're just angry since he insulted your mum ^^
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
You're just angry since he insulted your mum ^^
My mother died long ago. Concoct any fantastic remark about her that you like, if that makes you feel better.
Say she is a whore on the corner in Harlem if that floats your boat. LOL. Such remarks mean nothing to me.........and she cannot hear you.
Evakian
08-08-2005, 10:13 PM
So its a free pass to insult your mom? k.
*rolls up sleeves and gets to work* just kidding FT
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
So its a free pass to insult your mom? k. *rolls up sleeves and gets to work* just kidding FT
No prob.
:cool:
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All we are really doing in these trumped up wars of attrition is wiping out the monsters WE helped to create, while clearing a path for American Corporations to steal other nation's natural resources.
Decka
08-08-2005, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
Excuse me....but BUSH is the one who is getting tons of mileage out of it being a *religious war*..........
Thats Bs... these terrorists are killing people... thats why we want to stop them, NOT because of any religion they practice, end of story.
so put to rest your conspiracy theory, because it has no basis and no grounds.
Originally posted by Freethinker
to hatred toward the "evildoer" wrong-god Muslim world.
That is ASS BACKWARDS....
Muslims are all about PEACE... these are EXTREMISTS who really in NO WAY represent the Muslim religion...
the only one who is saying these things are YOU, and then you use YOUR QUOTES to ground YOUR STANCES....
Originally posted by Freethinker
Bush himself is on record as refering to it as a *crusade*.
i'd like to see the quote, as to what context it was used in...
if he did use that word, its a poor choice of words given the situation.
Originally posted by Freethinker
I have yet to hear of a Conservative or member of the "Religious Right" from Bush down offering up a prayer for the Iraqis that have died due to their actions.......
well, do you listen to people pray much?
you are the people who RUN from prayer... if someone prays they are FORCING it down your EARSSSS... OOHHH MAKE IT STOPPPP!!!
I've heard HUNDREDS of prayers that are exactly what you have magically become an expert on, even though you run from it.
and since when does Bush pray in public? Of course you won't hear him praying, because you are the people that FREAK everytime he even MENTIONS the word "God"....
Originally posted by Freethinker
I dont think the majority of Conservatives really do have empathy with other human beings, and it can be argued increasingly that 'Conservatism' is a mental disorder.
Hey, just because you disagree with people doesn't mean you have to reach down deep to try to brand them with some demeaning untrue quality..... hell, read some of the earlier posts about how much liberalism is a mental disorder LOL.
Freethinker
08-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Decka
Thats Bs... these terrorists are killing people... thats why we want to stop them ....
Yes, they *killed people* ........after the US leadership killed thousands upon thousands of them.
Some people in other nations tend to become angry when a big nation bullies their nation into submission, bombs them and institutes sanctions against them, sanctions that result in hundreds of thousands of deaths by starvation.
Decka
08-09-2005, 11:47 AM
are you suggesting that the United States starved the poor terrorists.. and thats why they're such mean guys????
I think it was the other way around, and we are just reacting to random acts of violence.
Gee, while we are sympathizing with the terrorists... maybe they are just MISUNDERSTOOD!!! yea its NORMAL to just SET OF BOMBS and TRY to kill innocent people..... its that MEAN OL AMERICA who's the REAL wacko here!!!!
Give me a Freakin break
Echo2
08-09-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Decka
Nice spin idiot...
Yea, try to make it a religious war... how dumb are you?
hell, it could have been ANY religion that is doing what these terrorists are doing and we'd do the same thing. Dont act like the united states has some agenda to get rid of the muslims.... there's no money in it. You have no proof of it either, just trying to fling mud....
WRONG. busco wouldn't have attacked a white christian country that had no WMD and no involvement in 9/11.
Decka
08-09-2005, 03:20 PM
but he would have attacked any nation led by Saddam who proved he can't be trusted and was acting like OJ Simpson up on the stand.
Echo2
08-09-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Decka
but he would have attacked any nation led by Saddam who proved he can't be trusted and was acting like OJ Simpson up on the stand.
I have no doubt he would attack any any non white, non christian country if he thought it would feed his and his friends pocketbooks ann he could find a way to get the sheople behind him.
Decka
08-09-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
I have no doubt he would attack any any non white, non christian country if he thought it would feed his and his friends pocketbooks ann he could find a way to get the sheople behind him.
well mexico is non everything... AND they have TONS of oil to his "friends" pocketbooks fat....
but he's not attacking mexico...
because your statement is false
Echo2
08-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Decka
well mexico is non everything... AND they have TONS of oil to his "friends" pocketbooks fat....
but he's not attacking mexico...
because your statement is false
WRONG. He's not attacking mexico because they are a christian country. 67% catholic, 24% other christian denomination, 9% misc.
Decka
08-09-2005, 04:33 PM
well Iran and Kuwait.... hmmm havn't see the united states in there....
Wow what a life it must be to just be paranoid of conspiracy at every turn...
ITS THOSE DAMN CHRISTIANS TRYING TO KILL EVERYONE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST PEACEFUL PEOPLE...
LETS HELP THOSE POOR LITTLE EXTREME-ISLAMIC TERRORISTS WHO ENJOY KILLING PEOPLE... THEY ARE THE VICTIM!!!
Freethinker
08-09-2005, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Decka
are you suggesting that the United States starved the poor terrorists.. and thats why they're such mean guys????
Not at all, sir.
But thank you for providing an example of how misinformed you are in regards to who starved in Iraq.
The US --who saw to it that sanctions were imposed on Iraq-- did not starve terrorists to death.
It starved mostly women and small children to death.
The Muslim extremists WITNESSED the starvation firsthand, and were incited to hate the US....and ultimately to attack in retaliation.
Originally posted by Decka
I think it was the other way around, and we are just reacting to random acts of violence.
You are the perfect drone for the Corporate State. Its existence depends of millions of *useful idiots* like you.
Originally posted by Decka
Gee, while we are sympathizing with the terrorists... maybe they are just MISUNDERSTOOD!!!
It certainly is true that you have no understanding of the issue in regards to why the terrorists were motivated to sacrifice their lives in a symbolic attack.
Originally posted by Decka
yea its NORMAL to just SET OF BOMBS and TRY to kill innocent people.....
No, you're right.....it isn't "normal".
That's why I would implore the US political leadership ---the SAME leadership that you champion and make excuses for day after day-- to stop doing it.
The US --with its centuries of military misadventures in foreign lands and its imperialist bullying and aquisitiveness-- has killed FAR more innocent people with bombs than all the suicide bombers in the world combined. Period.
When you come to grips with that one fact, you might just begin to have a inkling of what's involved here.
Then again, I doubt you ever will.
Originally posted by Decka
....its that MEAN OL AMERICA who's the REAL wacko here!!!!
No one is suggesting that the people running America are *wackos*. They're not.
They are doing it out of greed, i.e., a desire for money and power.
But the fact that they have a defineable motivation for doing it doesn't make it acceptable.
Brooks
08-09-2005, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Echo2
WRONG. He's not attacking mexico because they are a christian country. 67% catholic, 24% other christian denomination, 9% misc.
On September 12th, one of the first things the President said was not to blame all Muslims. A lot of his base was angered because his first statement should have been about who was responsible.
If President Bush is the anti-Muslim sheople manipulator you claim he is, wouldn't he have attempted to rally the country behind his own supposed Muslim-hatred?
Brooks
08-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker
But thank you for providing an example of how misinformed you are in regards to who starved in Iraq.
The US --who saw to it that sanctions were imposed on Iraq-- did not starve terrorists to death.
It starved mostly women and small children to death.
The Muslim extremists WITNESSED the starvation firsthand, and were incited to hate the US....and ultimately to attack in retaliation.
Well now we see that the missing oil for food money may be in the billions (that we know of).
Under the sanctions, the mechanisms existed to feed, clothe and give medical aid to the entire country. Certain bribed nations (and the UN) stood by and allowed Saddam to distribute cash favors with oil money. If you are justifying the terrorists actions because they perceive the US as being responsible for the sanction related deaths, that's one matter. But if you're saying we actually ARE responsible, I think those who siphoned money out of the program are more to blame.
Travh20
08-10-2005, 10:49 AM
Saddam Hussein and his Euro buddies starved women and children to death. the money he got from selling oil was to go to food, hence the name OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAM
Freethinker
08-10-2005, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Brooks
If you are justifying the terrorists actions because they perceive the US as being responsible for the sanction related deaths, that's one matter.
I am not justifying and would not ever **justify** the terrorists actions.
To claim terrorist actions by other groups are somehow *justified* would serve only to grant imprimatur to the despicable terrorist tactics the US political leadership inflicts upon other nations around the world on a daily basis.
I do not justify the Middle Eastern terrorist's actions, but I think the reasons that they took those drastic actions can be readily understood.
And yes, I was saying that the terrorists have at least the perception that the US was guilty of the deaths that occured because of the Iraqi sanctions. And in at least some way, the US was culpable.
Originally posted by Brooks
But if you're saying we actually ARE responsible, I think those who siphoned money out of the program are more to blame.
I agree somewhat. Those who siphoned the money away were guilty of a monstrosity....and one that helped bring about untold numbers of deaths from starvation.
That does not entirely exculpate the US from guilt, however.