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Evakian
07-31-2005, 05:36 PM
34@!#$%saff31@#$@!!!!!

Swearing is becoming increasingly apparent to me in the media. More TV shows/magazine publications seem to be getting away with alot. I've also noticed children younger and younger all the time using "cusses" as they call them.

Bad because of creating vocal handicapps? Bad because of religious context? Bad because of offending other people?

Do you allow your children to do this? Do you yourself do this commonly? Why or why not? Why is it bad? Why isn't it bad?\

What's your take on this?

Lokideviluk
07-31-2005, 05:40 PM
I swear all the time excluding the words "cunt and faggot" (which i deem on the far side of harsh). Im im with young children i wont or around family who i know find it offense i wont. But for the general rule i grew up around it at work and school

Evakian
07-31-2005, 05:47 PM
hehe 'cunt and faggot' must make for good insults when on the road then.

What makes them more harsh than the others?

Lokideviluk
07-31-2005, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
What makes them more harsh than the others?

Society

~Sal~
07-31-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Evakian
34@!#$%saff31@#$@!!!!!

Swearing is becoming increasingly apparent to me in the media. More TV shows/magazine publications seem to be getting away with alot. I've also noticed children younger and younger all the time using "cusses" as they call them.

Bad because of creating vocal handicapps? Bad because of religious context? Bad because of offending other people?

Do you allow your children to do this? Do you yourself do this commonly? Why or why not? Why is it bad? Why isn't it bad?\

What's your take on this?

Yeah my mouth can be pretty foul at times. I think it is partially the time I grew up in. For me it is mostly only one word: fuck. It was a huge, huge, no, no during my teens. It's use was new and old people would stroke out, so when I said it as much as possible to freak people out. It sort of became a part of my vocabulary.

I do use the occasional other nasty word, but not frequently.

Old habits die hard. At my age I know when it is appropriate and when not. Sometimes I slip. :D on purpose... :D

For me it is not the word itself so much as how it is used and the intent.

rendova
07-31-2005, 09:44 PM
When I was five, I said a swear word in front of my Pa.
He whipped my butt and washed my mouth out with Zest soap. I've hated Zest ever since.
Sure cured me of THAT habit real quick!
I believe a person can get their point across without using harsh language. Maybe this was how I was raised...... (!!) And, when you do slip and let loose with the ocassioanl swear word, it is 100 times more effective than if you swore constantly.

jerejerebinks
08-01-2005, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Evakian
'cunt and faggot'

What makes them more harsh than the others?

That C Word, Cunt, just sounds nasty. If I had no idea as to what it was referring, I'd be like "that's something nasty."

Vilepagan
08-01-2005, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
That C Word, Cunt, just sounds nasty. If I had no idea as to what it was referring, I'd be like "that's something nasty."

I completely agree Jere :D

~Sal~
08-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Vilepagan
I completely agree Jere :D

I know you look so young and all :D but are you going to tell me you have never ever looked at someone who has done the most horrendously stupid thing and not thought to yourself "what a STUPID "f'ing c...??????????????

Probably only 4 times for me but there really are people that stupid!

mad dog
08-01-2005, 02:42 PM
Do alot of folks still freak out when someone says goddamn? I was with a "holy roller" who swears, uses drugs, and has multible sex partners, but he freakout at me for saying goddamn, example I said "I was pissed when I saw those goddamn dogs chasing a deer.

jerejerebinks
08-01-2005, 02:54 PM
Yah-I think thats a pretty bad word too.

~Sal~
08-01-2005, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by mad dog
Do alot of folks still freak out when someone says goddamn? I was with a "holy roller" who swears, uses drugs, and has multible sex partners, but he freakout at me for saying goddamn, example I said "I was pissed when I saw those goddamn dogs chasing a deer.

baaaaaaaahaha you got caught... so did I once... you can say every nasty word in the book... but they believe the use of God's name in vain is a sin... everything else is okay...

you're going to heeeell, you're going to hell!!! when you get there, let me know if it is cold or hot...:D

Darth Be'lal
08-01-2005, 11:16 PM
Generally,

As I'd get fired for swearing in the poker room, I keep a lid on my swearing. I am a little nervous of saying the wrong thing while at work, so I try to keep in the habbit of curbing my swearing.

Besides, you have to do it right. Real swearing is inspirational and funny. If you want to know what I mean, watch the first half of "Full Metal Jacket." Damn if that Sargeant Hartman couldn't cuss up a blue streak! He had me in stitches several times over.


Dammit.

fallen-angel
08-01-2005, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by jerejerebinks
That C Word, Cunt, just sounds nasty. If I had no idea as to what it was referring, I'd be like "that's something nasty."

This word, in my opinion is frequently used by males as a last resort when they cant think of any intelligent comeback when arguing/debating with a female........no great comeback, just call her the c-word, yeah that'll get her!.........lol.......bravo to all males who sink that low, it takes alot of thought coming back with that one!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


I on the other hand, growing up near chicago, and being a chicago sports fan, have picked up some rather harsh words that I have been known to use quite frequently......and yes, Fucking moron, can be a term of endearment!:)

Evakian
08-01-2005, 11:51 PM
Yes well, i do not believe in swearing, i almost never ever use it in real life. It is just a way for people who cannot think up comebacks or insults just fallback onto them. They also lose meaning and creat verbal crutches (Pulp Fiction used the F word in many ways)

My parents kept me sheltered from such things, i had no concept of swearing until one day when i was 8 i got bored and turned on the TV, Full Metal Jacket was on...


Saregeant Hartman talking to someone giving up on the obstacle course at boot camp: "Are you quitting on me? Well, are you? Then quit, you slimy fucking walrus-looking piece of shit. Get the fuck off of my obstacle. Get the fuck down off of my obstacle. Now. Move it. I'm going to rip your balls off, so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world. I will motivate you, Private Pyle, if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo. "

Sargeant Hartman on Christmas morning: "Today... is Christmas! There will be a magic show at zero-nine-thirty! Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand? "

Hartman meets a new recruit: What's your name fat-body?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, Leonard Lawrence, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Lawrence? Lawrence what of Arabia?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: That name sounds like royalty are you royalty?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Do you suck dicks?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit. I bet you could suck a golfball through a garden hose.
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I don't like the name Lawrence, only faggots and sailors are called Lawrence. From now on you're Gomer Pyle. "

Marching Song]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I don't know but I been told...
Marines: I don't know but I been told...
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Eskimo pussy is mighty cold.
Marines: Eskimo pussy is mighty cold.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: MMM, good...
Marines: MMM, good...
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Tastes good...
Marines: Tastes Good...
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Feels Good.
Marines: Feels good.

Hartman meets a recruit from Texas:
Holy dog shit. Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And you don't look much like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Do you suck dicks?

HArtman introduces the men to their rifles:
Tonight, you men will sleep with your rifles. You will give your rifle a girl's name because this is the only pussy you people are going to get. Your days of finger-banging ol' Mary J. Rottencrotch through her pertty pink panties are over! You're married to this piece. This weapon of iron and wood. And you will be faithful.

Gunnery Sargeant Hartman[Chanting] This is my rifle.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: [Grabbing their crotches] This is my gun.
Marines: This is for fighting.
Marines: [Grabbing their crotches] This is for fun.

[Hartman after hitting Private Joker] You little scumbag! I got your name, I got your ass! You will not laugh, you will not cry, you will learn by the numbers I will teach you. Now get up, get on your feet! You had best un-fuck yourself or I will unscrew your head and shit down your neck!

Sargeant Hartman: What's your name, scumbag?
Private Snowball: Sir, Private Brown, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit! From now on your name is Private Snowball. Do you like your new name?
Private Snowball: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well I'll tell you one thing you won't like, Private Snowball: they don't serve fried chicken and watermelon on a daily basis in my mess hall.


Gunnery Sargeant Hartman: Holy Jesus! What is that? What the fuck is that? WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, a jelly doughnut, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: A jelly doughnut?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: How did it get here?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, I took it from the mess hall, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Is chow allowed in the barracks, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Are you allowed to eat jelly doughnuts, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: And why not, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, because I'm too heavy, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Because you are a disgusting fat body, Private Pyle!
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Then why did you try to sneak a jelly doughnut in your foot locker, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, because I was hungry, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Because you were hungry...
[turns and addresses rest of platoon]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Private Pyle has dishonored himself and dishonored his platoon. I have tried to help Private Pyle. I have failed. I have failed because YOU have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, whenever Private Pyle fucks up, I will not punish him! I will punish all of YOU! And the way I see it, ladies, you owe me for ONE JELLY DOUGHNUT! NOW, GET DOWN ON YOUR FACES!
[rest of recruits get in front-leaning-rest position, Hartman turns to Pyle]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Open your mouth!
[shoves jelly doughnut into PYLE's mouth]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: They're payin' for it; YOU eat it!



That was a shocking eye opener in my childhood. oh and this is what Darth Be'lal is talking about.

rendova
08-02-2005, 11:01 AM
My Dad, ex Navy man, was the absolute best at stringing swear words together--and he'd never use the same one twice! There's almost an art to this, kinda like poetry...when he couldn't get the lawn mower started, kids would hide behind the garage just to listen and pick up a few pointers!

~Sal~
08-02-2005, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by rendova
My Dad, ex Navy man, was the absolute best at stringing swear words together--and he'd never use the same one twice! There's almost an art to this, kinda like poetry...when he couldn't get the lawn mower started, kids would hide behind the garage just to listen and pick up a few pointers!

LMAO...:D good one!

mad dog
08-02-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by ~Sal~
baaaaaaaahaha you got caught... so did I once... you can say every nasty word in the book... but they believe the use of God's name in vain is a sin... everything else is okay...

exactly

you're going to heeeell, you're going to hell!!! when you get there, let me know if it is cold or hot...:D


Its probably cold unless they got that damn fire going again. I was there and pissed on the fire so they sent me back :D