http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

Well, I would say that this is a winnable war!:rolleyes:

It's pretty rare that I run into someone that thinks the war on drugs is worthwhile, so one wonders why the politicians are so obsessed with it.

Slave labor and OMG TEH CHILDREN!!!

Originally posted by LionelHutz
It's pretty rare that I run into someone that thinks the war on drugs is worthwhile, so one wonders why the politicians are so obsessed with it.
M O N E Y.

Money down the drain is more like it.

There is much more money to be made by keeping cannabis
illegal. All of the home impoundments, car impoundments, etc.

Very profitable for the local communities which also get a piece of the pie.

Marijuana should be legalized along the lines of alcohol. You can't legislate morality. Those that smoke weed aren't automatically gonna do coke or smack because it's legal.

Then the government could tax weed as tobacco and would make money they could apply to the deficit. Less people would be getting locked up which would actually save the taxpayers money.

I believe a majority of the people would agree, but the powers that be will never allow this to come to a vote.

And Bushco has its own agenda anyway. So we the taxpayers keep throwing money away on this worthless war on drugs.

I wouldn't be surprised if the only people keeping drugs illegal are the drug dealers themselves. With an illegal substance you are alieanated from competition and supply and demand. They can charge $1000 for a plant that they grew in Columbia for $0.02. Illegalization ensures a shortage and exorbiant prices, we pay for their actions in prisions and street violence while they rake in huge profits because competition and market forces are nonexistant.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
It's pretty rare that I run into someone that thinks the war on drugs is worthwhile.......

I have had the opposite experience.

Virtually every religionist, every self-appointed *protector of the Public "morality", every santimonious twit who believes that since HE has decided to deny himself something that is pleasurable then NOBODY else should be allowed to partake of said pleasurable activity or substance [IOW, every hard right Conservative] that I have ever spoken to is very much in favor of the continued criminalization of drugs.

Well, all the "evil" drugs, anyway.

In truth, there IS NO "war on drugs".

There's only a *War on Some Drugs*.

The three most prevalent drugs in use today [alcohol, nicotine and caffeine] are perfectly acceptable to the government.....and, resultingly, to the sheep.

They are acceptable to the political class running things because the government makes mega-BILLIONS taxing those three particular drugs.

The thre drungs in question are thusly also acceptable to the mindless masses because the government has told them that those three drungs are "ok" to consume as they please.

But --thanks to decades of government propaganda and the prohibition against it-- marijuana remains an "evil" drug in the mind of dimwitted Joe Sixpak.

I used to freak out older people when I told them I was a drug dealer. I used to sell soda and cigarettes.

Oh and when I was in high school it was much easier to get pot than alcohol.

Anybody making & selling alcohol for profit is against the legalization of any new adult recreational substance. Segrams, A. Busch, Miller, et-al would lose big $$ should the laws regarding marijuana be relaxed or reduced substancially.

Were alcohol to be introduced today, it would be regarded in the same way as heroin and cocaine - as a highly addictive, harmful substance.

The war on drugs is really the war on Pot.

Beyond it's obvious retardness, it's not a very successful war - despite the billions of $ pumped into that 'war' - the use of Pot has remained absolutely constant. It has had no impact (except perhaps raise the price of pot & hence increase any criminal activity)

The real war should be against crystal meth - which is a scourge eating away at rural america. This drug destroys lives. What is the response of the Bush administration? Propose to cut the funding for rural narcotics agents by half!

Its a shame Drew, Pot really just subdues and leaves people in a passive state with the worse case being that they may be sick afterwards. Why they arnt going after the heavier stuff is anyones guess.

Had a docters appointment and utterly failed to get Ritalin or Diazapan, shocking failure on my part.

Did anyone see the movie "Grass"?

Originally posted by Tapeworm
Did anyone see the movie "Grass"?

Nope, saw "Blow"

Someones been reading Newspeak...

America's Most Dangerous Drug
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8770112/site/newsweek/

:D

Originally posted by Lokideviluk
Its a shame Drew, Pot really just subdues and leaves people in a passive state

actually it depends on the mental state before hand. i am an occasional toker. i do NOT sit around contemplating the universe or my fuckin navel when i do so. i DO things. i have to DO things i actually do MORE when high and do it well rather than when not high. um, on "pot" that is. and i only use alcohol on occasion too. but am more "lazy" when drunk. i have seen people who are "lazy" before pot, those who tend to sit on their asses and do nothing but sit and stare at nothing, or a tv, or a computer, and smoke pot and tend to be the same afterward. not all of us who partake are passive idiots.

Originally posted by 00Elf
I wouldn't be surprised if the only people keeping drugs illegal are the drug dealers themselves.


that i would NOT be surprised of 00elf. around here the asshole dealers deal mexican brick weed, carried across the border for next to NOTHING, and is sold to people in west virginia for $50-$60 a 1/4 ounce. a ripoff. total and complete rippoff. it takes too much to even to catch a small buzz. then the asshole local growers around here think because of this they can charge twice this. fuck you, eat shit and die, i will be glad when DUMBASS MOFOS finally wake up and STOP paying this and prices will drop and stop FUELING the drug war. drug war is also based on prices of the known current market. IF dealers stop dealing HIGH prices, then busts HAVE to be based on how much it is actually based upon market value, even if black market value. $10 bags is a smaller possible sentence.

i personally believe that ANYTHING that you WANT, you should grow it, or make it YOURSELF. no money exchanged, no taxation, nothing. if you want it, grow it yourself, or make it yourself. so that there is NO easy access for it. harder to be a drunk or a junkie of any kind. keep that for the tobacco industry too.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Someones been reading Newspeak...

America's Most Dangerous Drug
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8770112/site/newsweek/

:D

It a good link - pretty much agrees with everything I said.

I've known people who Meth has ruined and have seen and read about the horror stories. This is where the war on drugs should be focused - not pot.

yeah the meth mouth sure does make it look sexy...

I've known a friend who started using. Then we all found out he had stolen shit from many of our cars by breaking windows in the night.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
yeah the meth mouth sure does make it look sexy...
What's that look like? When people roll, typically they have a tendency to "jaw", and by that, I mean they move their jaw from side to side in a constant motion. It makes them look like total retards, and speaking of which, I should know - I've seen myself do it. ;)

Is "meth mouth" anything like that???

Crank is a terrible scourge where I live--rural Midwest. Easy to make in portable labs, recipes for cooking all over the internet, highly addicitive, easy to make and sell at huge profits, what used to be the drug of choice for truckers, bikers, college kids and women wanting to lose a few pounds, has totally taken over law enforcements' budgets and the jails--there is no end in sight. Truckers cook it up in their cabs even (named "Fear This" or "Big Mama") as they cruise down I-70 at 90 mph. Very frightening. In the past 2 days alone, TWO daycare providers have been arrested for cooking and selling, in my own local area. Look out--it is headed your way.

Prae clink on my link. You mouth rots and your teeth fall out.

Yikes, thanks. :eek:

I knew that was a problem with heroin, but didn't with meth.

Out of curiosity, is meth an opiate?

Originally posted by The Praetorian
Out of curiosity, is meth an opiate?

No, meth is a synthetic drug made from common ingredients.

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/165183.html

Heroin and Morphine are opiates.

Thanks, Vile. Always the wealth of knowledge, I see. :)