Dr. Strangelove
Or how i stopped worrying and learned to love the bomb.

A film about a nuclear disaster. Our world in the nuclear age has completely changed. Every second disaster wiping out our world could happen.

If this happened, when do you think it would happen? What countries would bomb or be bombed? What would the aftermath be? Why would such a drastic step come into play?

Sound Off!

Ahh... what a great movie...


Dr. Strangelove: Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?
Ambassador de Sadesky: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.



General "Buck" Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?
Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

As your signature suggests, you are rebellious. You cannot even answer the questions and instead quote the movie :p

"GENTLEMAN, you can't fight in here this is a war room!"

hehe


But really folks, lets hear what you have to say about nuclear holocaust

It's something I don't even want to think about!
"I don't know how World War II will be fought. but I know how WW IIII will be fought--with sticks and stones."
Albert Einstein

Who will start it? Either the Terrorists or China, maybe working in tandem.
Damn those Rosenbergs! They should have been fried 10 times over for selling the secrets of the bomb to the Soviets and starting this whole mess to begin with. If the nuclear stuff was in our hands only, there would be no problem. (I mean to except England and other civilized nations by this).

misquote--Einstein said WW 3, not 2. Typo there.

I do not believe a prudent man or group would start it.
Perhaps a person that has lost everything.
Hitler probably would have pushed the button had it been in his arsenal.
The aftermath would be terrible.
The strong would survive, IF, the earth is left with the potential to sustain life as we know it.
The weak would lose what they possess.

Or maybe it will just be a complete mistake like in Dr. Strangelove!

Originally posted by Evakian
Dr. Strangelove
Or how i stopped worrying and learned to love the bomb.
...
What would the aftermath be? Philip K Dick wrote a book with a title inspired by the film; Dr. Bloodmoney, or How We Got Along After the Bomb. Perhaps it is his interpretation of the aftermath...

Dr. Bloodmoney, or How We Got Along After the Bomb, was published in 1965, and owed its title to the inspiration of Stanley Kubrick's film Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. However, it has no relationship to the film other than the coincidental presence of a mad scientist and a nuclear war. The first third of the novel takes place on the day nuclear bombs strike the San Francisco area; the rest is set years later in western Marin County, where a small community of survivors has adapted to the post-holocaust environment. Perhaps the most surprising feature of this world is how much life is proceeding as normal. There is a large cast of characters through whose eyes we alternately view the events of the story. Among them is Bluthgeld, the scientist who helped create the Bomb, who in his paranoia and solipsism massively affects the reality of the other characters. But each of them subtly touch the lives of all others. Everyone in the book can and does have the power to affect each other's universe, warping each other's everyday reality in many little ways. The post-holocaust setting has its greatest significance in presenting a community, a microcosm of humanity, forming a common reality as the sum of their mutual interexperience.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/088184389X/103-0211319-5803026?v=glance

Fallout?

http://www.games.ru/team/zuluzone/games/fallout/pics/whale_fin.GIF

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
I do not believe a prudent man or group would start it.
Perhaps a person that has lost everything. Perhaps Kim Jong Il (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il). North Korea scares the crap out of me, yet I have a strange morbid fascination with the place.

lol i like the term

"Post Apocolyptic"

It has that ring too it.

To answer the question, it seems America having some obsessive compulsion to blow shit up when it suits will probably try and own the world at the some point in a bid to "Bring peace to all", China along with every other country would go ugh noo...? and so America would buy the other countrys, China would still say no and so a global battle in much the same way as risk would exist.

I personally think it would at least make things more interesting, having to work to survive means you appriciate each day that much more and the simple things mean alot more.

I think as well the Human race needs a non human enemy to be able to truly globally unite.

Non human enemy?

we have one, no not martians, Al Qaeda

oh yea, and those toy monkeys that bang cymbals *shudders*

To answer the question, it seems America having some obsessive compulsion to blow shit up when it suits will probably try and own the world at the some point in a bid to "Bring peace to all", China along with every other country would go ugh noo...? and so America would buy the other countrys, China would still say no and so a global battle in much the same way as risk would exist.
The United States will not use any form of nuclear weapons in any war. I would claim that we would never use them, but there are morons out there. The American public in general may turn the other way when the United States carpet bombs, but would never ever, ever condone the use of nuclear weapons. The American public didn't know what they were in 1945, we do now.
The ones sitting and "waiting" are there to look tough, there is absolutely no tooth in there.



Non human enemy?
I figure another black plague.

Originally posted by Evakian
Non human enemy?

I meant a virus of some kind or Natural dissasters.

yes yes, i understood.

I even listed what i thought it would be, so no need to explain

those monkeys with the cymbals are after us i tells ya!

I meant a virus of some kind or Natural dissasters. No way we'll bomb that virus back to the stone age and it will learn never to infect us again....

Originally posted by Blibblob
To answer the question, it seems America having some obsessive compulsion to blow shit up when it suits will probably try and own the world at the some point in a bid to "Bring peace to all", China along with every other country would go ugh noo...? and so America would buy the other countrys, China would still say no and so a global battle in much the same way as risk would exist.
The United States will not use any form of nuclear weapons in any war. I would claim that we would never use them, but there are morons out there. The American public in general may turn the other way when the United States carpet bombs, but would never ever, ever condone the use of nuclear weapons. The American public didn't know what they were in 1945, we do now.
The ones sitting and "waiting" are there to look tough, there is absolutely no tooth in there.



Non human enemy?
I figure another black plague.

Blibblob I am curious as to why you believe this. Is it because the fallout afterwards is airborne and cannot be controlled or is it morally unacceptable to the government in your opinion? Or?

Blibblob I am curious as to why you believe this. Is it because the fallout afterwards is airborne and cannot be controlled or is it morally unacceptable to the government in your opinion? Or?
Firstly, it isn't an act of war, it's purely an act of terrorism. You're not attacking anything that holds true strategic value, you're just ending the lives of civilians in an attempt to frighten them into submission. The vast majority of Americans hold the murder of civilians during war to be the most dispicable act an army can do.
As I said, the general public had no clue what nuclear weapons or the Manhattan Project was in the 40s, they had no idea what was the military was actually doing. Hell, the military had no clue what they were doing; the most respected scientists at the time could not tell them what splitting an atom would really do other than release a bunch of energy(the radiation release wasn't known in full until much much later), and they couldn't give a definitive answer as to how long the chain reaction could continue. We know all of this now. Even Billy Bubba Joe Bob in the middle of nowhere. The consequences of dropping a nuclear warhead anywhere vastly overwhelm any benefits(personally, I don't think there is even a single benefit).
So no, I do not think there is a true American citizen out there who believes that nuclear bombs are the answer. Unfortunately over time our government has deteriorated and far too much power placed in the hands of too few people. I cannot state with absolute certainty that we will never drop a bomb, but if we do, the Untied States is over. And it wont be by the hands of foreign nationals.

Thanks Blibblob. Nice layout. If only 80% see it that way we are still all safe!

BTW were pretty much in line to catch all the dust coming from Iraq in about 5 years or so. I can taste the Depleted uranium now....mmmm, depleted....

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
I can taste the Depleted uranium now....mmmm, depleted....
Thanks for the tip, Homer. ;)