Did you read the message bill oreiley sent to that judge that let the repeat sex offender go?


"Memo to a Judge
Thursday, July 14, 2005
By Bill O'Reilly

Dear Judge Schroeder, please allow me to fill you in on Joseph Duncan (search), the man you allowed to post $15,000 bail and walk out of prison. In 1979, Duncan stole a car. In 1980, he raped and tortured a 14-year old boy in Washington state, for which he served 16 years in prison. During that time, he told authorities he had raped 13 other young boys — thirteen!

The year 2000, Duncan now out of prison, registered as a sex offender, judge, in your neighboring state, North Dakota. Four months ago, Duncan came before you, sir, charged again with molesting little boys. And instead of keeping him locked up, you allowed him to walk out on low bail, even though you knew his criminal history, according to The Minneapolis Star Tribune.

Duncan then skipped bail, traveled to Idaho where he allegedly murdered four people, including a 9-year old boy. His 8-year-old sister was found with Duncan when police arrested him. The little girl says she was sexually brutalized for weeks by Duncan.

So my question for you, judge, is why are you still sitting on the bench? Why haven't you resigned? These terrible crimes are on you, sir. How can you show up for work?

Judge Thomas Schroeder owes every American a detailed explanation for his conduct. We are waiting. But the shame of the nation isn't Judge Schroeder. It's that we allow him and other judges discretion in sentencing child sexual offenders.

This is simple. Every state in the union should have Jessica's Law (search) passed by Florida in the wake of the brutal slaughter of 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford. That law gives child sexual offenders 25 years in prison first offense, period. Second offense: life. No judge can screw that up.

There is no excuse not to pass Jessica's Law in all 50 states. No excuse. But only a few states have embraced the concept.

Here are the states that send child sex offenders to prison for 10 years or more, first offense. Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington and West Virginia.

If your state is not on that list, raise some hell. Call your governor's office. Send a message. Every state must get tough on the likes of Joseph Duncan and take the power away from the likes of Judge Thomas Schroeder. If not, your kids will never be safe.

One last question. Would you allow your 6-year-old to play on your front lawn unattended? Think about it."



Here is the link....it's an interesting video!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162506,00.html

I've read similar stories in at least one book called "What Cops Know." A person amasses a criminal record, they commit crimes, they walk in and out of prison, they get put back on the street and they commit more crimes. One of the cops stated that they are constantly loosing animals on the streets.

I agree with Jonathon Douglas, a former FBI Agent and co-author of the book "Mindhunter" whose philosophy is that certain individuals are too dangerous to be in the society at large. People who do commit violent crimes, rapes, even murders can and do become model prisoners while serving time. That really terrible consequence for society is that there is a section of society, with the power to go to court and represent these criminals, that mistakenly believes that because a person behaves well while in prison, he'll behave well on the outside. This little theory has been proven wrong over and over and over again, but there are a group of people who advocate that a prisoner can reform themselves while in prison and the wrong people keep getting let out. In the case you pointed out, that individual, a Joe Duncan, was CLEARLY too dangerous to be let loose in society at large, and the innocent pay.


I think there has to be some responsibility placed on the judge who let an obviously dangerous man out on bail. Also, the defense lawyers should take a share of the responsibility as well.

I'm not usually a fan of O'Reiley....but he's right on here. I totally agree.

I absolutely agree that there are people who should never, under any circumstances, be allowed to leave prison. Not every murderer falls into this category. A Husband who comes home to find his wife in bed with another man, and who in the heat of the moment kills one ot both of them, may be able to be rehabilitated. Charles Manson should be in prison forever. Joseph Duncan should never be allowed out of prison again, and he should not of been let out on bail. In fact, he should not have been let out of prison in the year 2000.

I completely agree Imagineer. Great post.

I don't understand why every state in the union doesn't have a 10 year minimum on child molestation. The least they can do is hold the bastards till the child is all grown up and ready to defend themselves should the person come back.

Our prisons are crap though. There should be some real serious rehabilitation centers in them. Most people end up being repeat offenders because they can't cope with the outside world after being in prison for so long. So going back to prison actually become a goal while "having fun in the meantime" is a horrible burden on society.

At the very least they could enact some sort of dorm like situation for 3-6 months before someone is released in which they get an allowence (of fake money) to buy every meal and pay fake bills etc...

There is no cure for child molesters, so putting them in a place for a few months wont help. Even if they are castrated, they still have the urge. Thay might not be able to rape but they can still molest.

Originally posted by jenn504
There is no cure for child molesters,

What attracts one idividual sexually is inborn. It cannot be changed or "cured". If one is attracted to children their drive is just as strong as those who are attracted to adults, (same or different sex). The sex drive is very strong in most humans. WE cannot "cure" it, change it or ignore it. The only solution is to lock these individuals up where they have no access to children.

What is really frightening is what so many of these offenders say when they're caught.

"He (the kid) led me on."

"I didn't really hurt him."

"The kid had it coming."

"The kid liked it."

They are never sorry. Never!

anyone convicted of molesting children should be executed immediatly.

What about rapists? what about muderers? At what point is a crime committed that doesn't deserve the death penalty Trav? Not that I necessarily disagree with you but a standard needs to be established if you're gonna kill people.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
What about rapists? what about muderers?
They should die, too.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
I don't understand why every state in the union doesn't have a 10 year minimum on child molestation. The least they can do is hold the bastards till the child is all grown up and ready to defend themselves should the person come back.

IMO, for a pedophile, that's nothing more than a slap on the wrists. 10 years would do the original kid a favor, not in the sense that he can defend himself--but that he is probably too old for the pedophile at that point. What 10 years does, is offers a whole group of fresh choices. They should be locked up period. Forever and always.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Our prisons are crap though. There should be some real serious rehabilitation centers in them. Most people end up being repeat offenders because they can't cope with the outside world after being in prison for so long. So going back to prison actually become a goal while "having fun in the meantime" is a horrible burden on society.

Right. I agree. There does need to be a huge effort to clean them up in a lot of senses, especially the mental stability part. Talented psychologists and councelors instead of nightstick waiving guards may do alot of good.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
At the very least they could enact some sort of dorm like situation for 3-6 months before someone is released in which they get an allowence (of fake money) to buy every meal and pay fake bills etc...

I don't exactly know how that keeps them from hunting kids.

Originally posted by The Praetorian
They should die, too.

Agreed. And I think people who repeatively or seriously injure their children/spouse/etc, should be considered to.

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
I agree with Jonathon Douglas, a former FBI Agent and co-author of the book "Mindhunter" whose philosophy is that certain individuals are too dangerous to be in the society at large.

I agree too.

That is one reason why i am in favor of keeping the death penalty.

I agree with most of the above.
Burn the bastards.

Does that include all the bastards from Abu G and Gitmo?

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Does that include all the bastards from Abu G and Gitmo?
Absolutely not.

They should be given a fair trial, and then burned.

So its seems everyone agrees that extreme crimes should be dealt with by killing them.

Id like to change that slightly because in a few cases certain people are going to be innocent. So instead Id like to say

"All reoffenders should be killed" and we could ramp it up for any crime involved in harming other people. If your convicted of intentionally seeking to harm another person you have a prison sentence and if your caught again then death

Its hard to say we would live in a peaceful nation if we are killing all these people but for the majority it would certainly reduce crime by a decent amount.

Absolutely not. They should be given a fair trial, and then burned. heh
:D

"All reoffenders should be killed" and we could ramp it up for any crime involved in harming other people. If your convicted of intentionally seeking to harm another person you have a prison sentence and if your caught again then death Excellent point. This is why I am against teh death penalty as a whole. Because our system is and always will be imperfect. Easy enough to lock people up forever. And at least that way they get to dwell on what they did rather than the easy way out (death).

You're a hard person to figure out 500, but on the plus side - at least you have a sense of humor.

I do when it comes through. Sometimes its hard to get/give jokes online. I know you've missed a few of mine and gotten pissed and I'm sure I've done the same.