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500lbguerilla
06-29-2005, 04:01 PM
Sunni men in Baghdad targeted by attackers in police uniforms

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/special_packages/iraq/11999387.htm

So theres an Iraqi police deathsquad unit running around Iraq executing people...great. Who ever could have set something like that up?... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte

I mean good thing were in Iraq keeping it safe for them to protest and all...oh wait...

Police open fire on Iraq crowd -witnesses
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=888104

Notice that there is a distinct lack of the progression of events. ABC lists that protesters threw rocks and that police shot and killed people. They imply that the rock throwing was first by listing it first but go out of their way to not give the sequence of events. Usually all protestors wish merely to have their voices heard. It is not until police start attacking people that they ever become violent.

Beirut_Veteran
06-30-2005, 09:39 AM
who would have thouht?

old-reb
06-30-2005, 11:48 AM
Sensational headline reads:

Sunni men in Baghdad targeted by attackers in police uniforms



The not so sensational truth.

"The small numbers that we've investigated we've found to be either rumor or innuendo," said Steven Casteel, a senior U.S. adviser to the ministry and former Drug Enforcement Administration intelligence chief. "You can buy a police uniform in 20 different places in the market."

While he admitted that Interior Ministry troops have at times abused detainees, Casteel said he knew of only one instance in which they falsely detained an Iraqi and beat him. And in that case, the troops and their commander were convicted and jailed, he said.

The story is designed to put out a lie that most people are all too willing to believe.

old-reb
06-30-2005, 12:16 PM
Former Baathst soldiers fire on Iraqi police and police shoot back.



Members of a crowd of several thousand threw stones at an employment office in the northern city of Mosul. Some chanted support for Saddam.

"I need a salary now -- I've been out of work since the war," said Ayid Khalid, 24, a former builder in the northern city.

Police and security guards fired shots in the air and the crowd broke up.

At the Baghdad protest near a hotel where Western reporters and other foreign workers are based, police fired automatic rifles and pistols as demonstrators took cover behind buildings.

"We didn't shoot at the beginning. We think this is a democracy and they can express their point of view. But then they started firing," policeman Falah Hassan said at the scene. He said several people were wounded.

Protesters said they had come repeatedly to the office of a force set up to guard state property to look for work, but with little result.

"Most of us were soldiers and then they disbanded the army and all the soldiers became jobless," one man said. "We've filled out forms and two months later, still no result."

The U.S.-led administration running Iraq disbanded the old Iraqi army, viewing the force as a tool of the deposed Baath party. The first soldiers for a new army are due to graduate from a training course in the next few days.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1001-06.htm

500lbguerilla
06-30-2005, 01:57 PM
Old Reb - You title is misleading. Protestors throw stones at building police fire into air.

This is a different incident than the one I listed in my first post.

Also nice of you to leave off the paragraphs immediatly surrounding you selective quoting in the article.

The Interior Ministry, which oversees the Iraqi police, denies any involvement in the killings. But eyewitnesses said that many of the dead were apprehended by large groups of men driving white Toyota Land Cruisers with police markings. The men were wearing police commando uniforms and bulletproof vests, carrying expensive 9-millimeter Glock pistols and using sophisticated radios, the witnesses said......
While he admitted that Interior Ministry troops have at times abused detainees, Casteel said he knew of only one instance in which they falsely detained an Iraqi and beat him. And in that case, the troops and their commander were convicted and jailed, he said.

Sure they could have gotten police uniforms but where did the land cruisers, handguns and bullet proof vests come from?

Fact is the US has been training and hiring former baathists who used to do such things all the time. Combine this with BushCo remarks about "the Salvador Option" and the fact the Negroponte was just in the country and it looks pretty bad.

old-reb
06-30-2005, 02:37 PM
Here is 50 unarmed Iraqi soldiers in civilian clothes slaughtered by the rebels in Iraqi militry uniforms.




BAGHDAD, Iraq — In their boldest and deadliest ambush yet, insurgents waylaid three minibuses carrying U.S.-trained Iraqi soldiers heading home on leave and massacred about 50 of them — forcing many to lie down on the ground and shooting them in the head, officials said Sunday.

Some accounts by police said the rebels were dressed in Iraqi military uniforms.

The killing of so many Iraqi soldiers — unarmed and in civilian clothes — in such an apparently sure-footed operation reinforced American and Iraqi suspicions that the country's security services have been infiltrated by insurgents.

A claim of responsibility posted on an Islamist Web site attributed the attack to followers of Jordanian-born terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136419,00.html

500lbguerilla
06-30-2005, 03:15 PM
These things are wholly the fault of the US.

It was the US who trained all of these people (former baathists and regulars alike).

It was also the US (Paul Bremer) who implemented the "free market wet dream" that is now Iraq. None of the foreign companies have to hire any Iraqis for anything nor does any of the money need to go into the Iraqi economy.

You wanna end an insurgency?

The first place to start is to creat jobs. When people don't have work because of the US invasion then all they have to do all day is look for food and hate America. Give them a job where they can work for money and they won't have all the idle time to plot revenge.

And I would love to know if Zaqarwi is actually in Iraqi doing such things. His face is well known yet not one single picture of him from Iraq has ever been shown and when he is suppossedly in beheading videos hes wearing a mask? Why does he wear a mask if his face is known?

hayryan
07-01-2005, 02:54 AM
Actually 500lbguerilla the man in the mask is President Bush, thats what he does for fun when he says he is going to the ranch.

500lbguerilla
07-01-2005, 09:25 PM
Here is yet another article connecting the "salvador option" dots.


Journalist killed after investigating US-backed death squads in Iraq
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/55429


"The main US advisor to the Wolf Brigade from the time of its formation until April 2005 was James Steele. Steele’s own biography, promoting him for the US lecture circuit, states that “he commanded the US military group in El Salvador during the height of the guerilla war” and “was credited with training and equipping what was acknowledged to be the best counter-terrorist force in the region”. In a 12-year campaign of murder and repression, the Salvadoran units, trained and advised by people like Steele, killed over 70,000 people."
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Fuller noted, however: “What is particularly striking is that many of those killings have taken place since the police commandos became operationally active and often correspond with areas where they have been deployed.”

In Mosul, for example, dozens of men were detained by the commandos last November, as part of a US-led operation to bring the city back under occupation control. Over the following weeks, more than 150 tortured and executed bodies were found. In Samarra, dozens of bodies appeared in nearby Lake Thartar in the wake of operations by the commandos in that city.
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The article also cited a third case. The body of Saadi Khalif was brought to Yarmuk morgue by police commandos several days after he was taken from his home by police on June 10. Saadi’s brother told Knight Ridder: “The doctor told us he was choked and tortured before they shot him. He looked like he had been dragged by a car.”
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