Revelations from the Apocalypse is a must read document for all. Much of what you discuss and argue about, is answered in this awesome piece of work. It may be downloaded free at www.lulu.com/content/126933

DOOM!!!

So, the writer of this advertised book is the "long awaited missiah."
Boy, that should create a stir.

Boy, that should create a stir.
AHHHH!!! OH GODS!!! AHHHHH!!! AHHHH!!!! SAVE US!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!
Ahem.
"I'm going to sing the doom song now!
doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom..."

Cooperation - you posted this multiple times in politics & world news, history & science. I moved one thread over here. What's up are you stupid or something? - this crap has nothing to do with politics.

If you post this in other forums again I will delete you & all your posts from this forum and ban you from ever posting again.

Photoshopped picture! By me!

http://www.sys-rq.net/Images/endisnear.jpg

A few seconds research led me to this page:
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/revelations_from_the_apocalypse.htm

from this site:
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com

I have submitted this to http://www.crank.net/ so that should get the message spread a little further.

No need to thank me for my cooperation.

Originally posted by Cooperation
Revelations from the Apocalypse is a must read document for all. Much of what you discuss and argue about, is answered in this awesome piece of work. It may be downloaded free at www.lulu.com/content/126933


end of the world crap is just that. crap. the world does not come to an end. it just changes. there is no such thing as death, only a change.

end of the world crap is closely associated with those who are "civilized" or influenced by them. civilization needs to reinforce the fear, paranoia, in order to control the population with stupid stuff. many, many cultures have been influenced by this fear whether they are hopi in the desert, or a christian in a high rise in germany. it's all about fear, and control.

Originally posted by ivan
end of the world crap is just that. crap. the world does not come to an end. it just changes. there is no such thing as death, only a change.

nicely said!

Most of us are DOOMED anyways...we're NOT Mormons!

Thanks for the info, Blob.

Originally posted by Blibblob
"I'm going to sing the doom song now!
doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom..."

Can I join in? doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom :) :p :alien: :bike:

Look, up above! Whats that in the sky?

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Look, up above! Whats that in the sky?

It's a bird, IT's A Plane...nooo, it's super...(plop)..damn if it isn't just a bird after all...

Originally posted by ~Sal~
It's a bird, IT's A Plane...nooo, it's super...(plop)..damn if it isn't just a bird after all...

;)

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
Look, up above! Whats that in the sky?

Did you know Mormons could FLY? I'm sorry...I'm just in a Mormon Madness kind of mood..

The author of the book, Seven Star Hand, a self-professed messiah, is posting here (http://www.infidelguy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=220325#220325).

Originally posted by Blob
The author of the book, Seven Star Hand, a self-professed messiah, is posting here (http://www.infidelguy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=220325#220325).

I am almost tempted to download the book for the hell of it except who knows what may be in the download... thanks for the link.

I'd go ahead sal, the site posted by cooperation looks reputable to me. I honestly doubt there will be anything untoward like viruses in the download.

Everyone, check out my link above on this page. This wacko really is claiming to be the messiah!

Originally posted by Blob
I'd go ahead sal, the site posted by cooperation looks reputable to me. I honestly doubt there will be anything untoward like viruses in the download.

Everyone, check out my link above on this page. This wacko really is claiming to be the messiah!

Thanks Blob. I am curious as hell as to whether he is just trying to recruit people for his own purposes (hidden agenda) or whether he truly believes it himself...

Loooove this stuff. Now if my computer tubes you will have to psychically heal it or you will be doing some travelling...:D

Will let ya know how the book looks...

Originally posted by ~Sal~
Thanks Blob. I am curious as hell as to whether he is just trying to recruit people for his own purposes (hidden agenda) or whether he truly believes it himself...I've no idea his motives, though at a guess it's probably the old phenomenon of someone who's written a book desperate for all and sundry to read it and comment. I'd say the guy really believes his own excrement going by his posts. But that's all just gut feeling and really I have no idea.

Loooove this stuff. Now if my computer tubes you will have to psychically heal it or you will be doing some travelling...:D Yeah, hope that wasn't duff advice I gave! I just downloaded the preview and it's a harmless pdf file. In fact I would have a glance at the book itself but can't be bothered to register with that site etc.

Will let ya know how the book looks... From the preview it seems to be a heady cocktail of religion, spiritualism and science: revelations, self-professed messiahs, astrology, multi-dimensions, ancient symbols, solar eclipses and so on.

NB: the link I posted is down at times because the are redoing the website though it usually comes back on after a few minutes.

Interesting to me that this guy intends to do away with money, religion, and politics.
Never happen!

I believe I understand what he means by being a messiah.
He could qualify under Websters second meaning of "a professed or accepted leader of a hope or cause."

Originally posted by Dan Fussell
I believe I understand what he means by being a messiah.
He could qualify under Websters second meaning of "a professed or accepted leader of a hope or cause." True, except he does claim to be a specific messiah, or "The Messiah", in his words.

From the book preview:
the long-prophesied Messiah, Lion of the Tribe of Juda, Teacher of Righteousness, and Melchizedek

The Vatican rules Planet Earth through secret control of international banking, currencies, secret societies, and leading politicians

Hey, I thought that was supposed to be the Jews! What is the Vatican doing trespassing on our turf?
; )

Originally posted by sputnik


Hey, I thought that was supposed to be the Jews! What is the Vatican doing trespassing on our turf?
; ) [/B]

Yeah well Jews and Catholics have always had an affinity. Time to share... now shove over!:D

When the world ends, it will be caused by us and our infinite stupidity.

The guy is clearly schizophrenic,

Also I would wager that the "world" will end as is predicted, the Sun will swallow it up as the universe shrinks before expanding again however..

The human race will most likely cease to exist through our own stupidity and obsessesion with power/greed.

Greetings guys and gals. You can also find my book at the following URL if you don't want to register at LuLu.com. The file is virus free.

http://www.angelfire.com/psy/sevenstarhand/

Also, before you fall into the same trap as the so-called theists you love to hate, read the preface to the book at:

http://www.geocities.com/sevenstarhand/preface.html

Anyone who isn't an expert at ancient symbology and claims to understand what these ancient texts truly represent is either delusional, lying or both. I can guarantee that none of these religious leaders truly understand ancient symbology. If they did, they'd understand that sealed texts are an ages-old sting operation against religion, money, and politics. One of my goals is to spring the trap at the right time and expose these deceivers and their deceptions for what they have always been.

Re: "The end of Days": is a purely symbolic phrase and anyone who thinks its a literal reference is greatly mistaken. This and most ancient symbols are defined, with cross references, in Chapter 7, "Apocalypse Symbol Guide"

The ancient symbology used to frame these sealed texts is an ancient philosophical technology. Contrary to the assertions of people who haven't taken the time to truly understand the scope and nature of what I've accomplished (while claiming otherwise), I have thoroughly reverse engineered this ancient technology and the proof is in the extensive book that I'm currently completing for publication. The PDF's online are late version draft manuscripts, hence beta versions.

Someone else posted the initial message in this thread, but they are correct that the seals have been loosed (decoded) and now the Truth and Wisdom about many ages-old mysteries and deceptions are laid bare. If you truly want to end the ignorance of religion, you must do so from a foundation of truth and wisdom. Otherwise, the endless loop of ignorance and folly continues unabated.

Write me of as schizophrenic if you makes you feel comfortable. All new discoveries are scoffed at by the intellectually lazy. My sincere suggestion though, is that you show a little patience and seek to understand the solution to a great and ancient mystery before ignorance gets the best of you (again). I'm not seeking money nor worship nor power, only Truth and Justice.

Truth, Wisdom and Justice are the perfect path... Ignorance and folly lead in the opposite direction...

Hello Your Most Venerable Worshipfulness.

I hear you are the messiah.

Everyone reading this probably thinks I am being sarcastic but you really do believe you are the messiah, do you not SSS?
All new discoveries are scoffed at by the intellectually lazy.True, but that doesn't mean that any old bull counts as a new discovery.

It is said you are able to demonstrate your messianic talents on internet forums using your power of numerology. Would you please be kind enough to do so here.

Hello Blob,

I'll play your silly game for now, but I suggest you exercise a little humility in the face of the unknown. I assure you, there are many things about this reality you simply don't understand and scoffing won't prevent what is about to transpire. I've offered you the key to ancient wisdom and the ability to finally understand the truth about many ancient texts and traditions, for free. If you prefer to cling to mistaken interpretations and ignorance, that's your freewill choice.

First, I make it abundantly clear that the entire concept of religion, which includes hero worship, is one of humanity's greatest follies. Take a moment to understand the Doctrine of Two Spirits outline on the referenced web page and on the back cover blurb, which is included in the EBook. Religion is deception and ignorance, pure and simple. Understand my stance before you falsely accuse me.

Secondly, the title Messiah means messenger and teacher, as well as lawgiver. Unlike religious assertions of the Torah being "the law", the orginal symbolism meant wisdom, in the same manner as "laws of the universe." Once again, pay close attention to the Doctrine of Two Spirits. Also, read the Chapters "Doctrine of Two Spirits" and "Understanding the Apocalypse."

Thirdly, numerology is mysticism. Yes I use numeric symbolism to demonstate verifiable patterns, but the purpose is to provide a verifiable method of validating very specific information. Numerology assigns powers to numbers themselves, which is utter foolishness. Mysticism also mistakenly assigns power to symbolic terms such as light, crystal, stone, etc., even though the original purpose of these symbols were as labels for very specific wisdom.

Ancient wisdom symbology is not invalid just because a bunch of ignorant people have been deceived into believing lies based on the misinterpretation of that wisdom and symbolism. It only means that those people are ignorant of the truth. This is logic 101, not rocket science.

Take the time to truly understand what I present in chapter one. Read the preface and you'll realize that addressing me as "Most Venerable Worshipfulness" and haranguing me about numerology only proves your own ignorance.

I'm not your enemy. Don't treat me like one.

Hello SSS.

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
I'll play your silly game for now, but I suggest you exercise a little humility in the face of the unknown. I assure you, there are many things about this reality you simply don't understand and scoffing won't prevent what is about to transpire.Okay, sarcasm dropped.

It's ironic you tell me there are things I don't understand. A quick check of pretty well any of my posts would have shown you I am more aware than most of this truism.

An example from a recent post of mine:

There are no doubt many strange, wierd and wonderful things out there which I know nothing of. But just because I fully acknowledge my ignorance doesn't mean I have to jump on the bandwagon every time someone suggests some emotionally attractive fantastical entity such as a god, a ghost most people can't see, or a fire-breathing dragon.

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12695 (quote from first post in that thread)

Read the preface and you'll realize that addressing me as "Most Venerable Worshipfulness" and haranguing me about numerology only proves your own ignorance. Shall I apply that reasoning to you? Read some of my posts and you'll realise your assumption I think I know everything about reality only proves your own ignorance.

Also you do claim to be the messiah (the "Your Worshipfulness" quip) and you used a number trick on todangst's number of posts over at infidelguy.com. I was making fun and said I will stop now as you requested, but nonetheless my glib remarks were based on fact not ignorance.
I've offered you the key to ancient wisdom and the ability to finally understand the truth about many ancient texts and traditions, for free. If you prefer to cling to mistaken interpretations and ignorance, that's your freewill choice.As I have demonstrated, your interpetation of me is mistaken and your assurances I am ignorant unfounded. BTW "freewill choice" is a redundant term; either freewill or choice alone suffices. Strange that the messiah does not express himself using good plain english.

Religion is deception and ignorance, pure and simple. Understand my stance before you falsely accuse me.I disagree - and I'm an atheist. Many of the theists here who know me would confirm that I am not anti-religious. You have a prejudiced and narrow-minded conception of how complex and rich religion is.
I'm not your enemy. Don't treat me like one. Don't be so quick to feel persecuted. I never said you were my enemy.

A. This topic was about my book and not about your past posts. Had we been discussing your posts, I would have read them before trying to characterize them. As far as jumping on a bandwagon, I'm not offering a bandwagon, only a key to understanding a genre of ancient mysteries and controversies.

B. The statement stands that there are many things you don't understand about this reality. That same statement fits everyone on this plane, to varying degrees. Wisdom and ignorance are both sliding scales.

C. My interpretation of you was based on your comments directed at me.

D. As I said, religion is deception and ignorance and I've gone to great lengths to provide substantial evidence, not just an opinion. Good people are deceived and deluded all the time, that doesn't make deception and delusion a good thing. It only shows that deception works on a wide range of people.

E. Re: my narrow mind regarding religion. If a whole civilization were based on lies told about you, I think it just might skew your views about religion and religious leaders also.

F. Regarding the number trick on Todangst's posts. Don't you find it a bit curious that his posting numbers on the posts he was calling me schizophrenic precisely matched the key symbolic numbers he was making fun of and that Chapter One of my book uses as proof of an intelligent pattern (11)? Did I twist his arm to make him write the precise statements he made at that precise time about that precise topic and those precise numbers? As I said, there are things you don't understand about this reality or you wouldn't call it numerology or number tricks.

Didn't I also point out that the first named storm of this year occurred on 6-11, the 11th day of the hurricane season? Did you also notice that a record early storm season is now under way and shortly after our conversation the hurricanes began again? Where did the first hurricane make landfall? Did you read what I had to say about last year's Florida hurricanes, which occurred at 11-day intervals on very specific days during a very specific year? How many coincidences do you need before you finally notice an intelligent pattern? Notice the weather around the rest of the world and it's not even August yet? Call them number tricks if you like, that won't stop what has already begun to unfold. Sorry if it doesn't fit your view of cosmology, but reality has a way of intruding upon certain opinion's and theories.

G. So, you really think all choices are based on freewill? Do you think your leaders are telling you the truth? If you are deceived into making the wrong choices, is that freewill?

H. Are you actually saying that all the comments on this thread and the Infidel Guy were positive statements? Surely you can do better than that...

Take the time to read the book and prove me wrong. Match my research and point out the factual mistakes. Keep it in context though. The data presented thoughout is tightly synchronized and you'll need to disprove the supporting facts also.

By the way, the conversation on this forum is more positive than over at the Infidel Guy. I don't mind having good positive give and take discussions, it's the constant negatives that leave a bitter taste.

Also, I never claimed to be infallible. That's a claim made by smooth tongued deceivers.

Sincerely...

For those of us who haven't read your book (and refuse to, because it sounds like nonsense), give us the gist of these numbers you say fit a pattern. A lot of 11s? What? If 11 is so important, why didn't Hurricane Karl (the 11th named storm of 2004) affect anyone?

Hello SSS.

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
A. This topic was about my book and not about your past posts. Had we been discussing your posts, I would have read them before trying to characterize them.This is a discussion website. You cannot complain I know nothing about you
then immediately accuse me of something ungrounded and untrue (i.e. that I am unaware of my own ignorance). The fact that you have written a book and are here to promote it has no bearing on that. Technically you are spamming, though the book is available for free download to be fair on you.
As far as jumping on a bandwagon, I'm not offering a bandwagon, only a key to understanding a genre of ancient mysteries and controversies.I never said you are jumping on a bandwagon and I never implied the book isn't all your own work and research. That said, there is no new thing under the sun and you don't exactly smack of total originality. (I have a copy of your book and have skimmed through for 10 mins at least).
B. The statement stands that there are many things you don't understand about this reality. That same statement fits everyone on this plane, to varying degrees. Wisdom and ignorance are both sliding scales.For goodness sake I never denied I don't know everything. In fact I make statements like "I don't know everything" and "maybe god exists" all the time at allforums.net. Want to know why? Because almost everyday someone makes the argument from ignorance that you are making now. "You don't know everything therefore I am right". I hear it from theists, alien conspiracists, ghost believers - and now a messiah - all the time.

It is a fallacious argument because it proves anything (god, aliens, ghosts, messiahs) and so proves nothing.
C. My interpretation of you was based on your comments directed at me.Fair enough - but only if you allow me that privilege too without complaining that I haven't read your book and calling me ignorant.
D. As I said, religion is deception and ignorance and I've gone to great lengths to provide substantial evidence, not just an opinion. Good people are deceived and deluded all the time, that doesn't make deception and delusion a good thing. It only shows that deception works on a wide range of people.So if I disagree I am ignorant and deceived. Argument from ignorance once again. This argument has been used to try and convince me the bible is true, that nessie resides in loch ness and now that you are the messiah.
E. Re: my narrow mind regarding religion. If a whole civilization were based on lies told about you, I think it just might skew your views about religion and religious leaders also.Shall I use the argument from ignorance on you now? You cannot know everything about religion. You cannot know the mind of every believer and their life and their community. Therefore you are ignorant and there are realities of religion you know nothing about.
F. Regarding the number trick on Todangst's posts. Don't you find it a bit curious that his posting numbers on the posts he was calling me schizophrenic precisely matched the key symbolic numbers he was making fun of and that Chapter One of my book uses as proof of an intelligent pattern (11)?No.
Did I twist his arm to make him write the precise statements he made at that precise time about that precise topic and those precise numbers?You did not twist his arm, you commited the fallacy of the Texas Sharp Shooter. (The TSS shoots holes in fences then goes and draws a target round the hole and is thus proven to be the shapest shooter in texas).
As I said, there are things you don't understand about this reality or you wouldn't call it numerology or number tricks.Argument from ignorance again.
Didn't I also point out that the first named storm of this year occurred on 6-11, the 11th day ... Call them number tricks if you like, that won't stop what has already begun to unfold.I asked you to apply your theory to this thread. You have given me some unrelated hurricane number construction instead.

If the patterns are there show how it works for every poster in this thread. It's quite easy to do. There are so many ways to go about it: use people's number of posts; date of post; word count in a post; word count in a sig; letter count; average number of letters per sentence;... well, the list goes on and on. So many many numbers can be generated that you will find your pattern sooner or later. No doubt you know more methods for number generation than I.
Sorry if it doesn't fit your view of cosmology, but reality has a way of intruding upon certain opinion's and theories.So if I can't see it your way I am ignorant of reality. Argument from ignorance again.
G. So, you really think all choices are based on freewill? Do you think your leaders are telling you the truth? If you are deceived into making the wrong choices, is that freewill?[b]Okay I see you had a specific reason and in fact carefully chose the phrase "freewill choice". Fair point. You also have good english prose in your writing style to be fair so I withdraw my comment.
[b]H. Are you actually saying that all the comments on this thread and the Infidel Guy were positive statements? Surely you can do better than that...IG.com is a lions den of atheists. I am at home there and all are welcome but it is an atheist website for atheists.
Take the time to read the book and prove me wrong. Match my research and point out the factual mistakes. Keep it in context though. The data presented thoughout is tightly synchronized and you'll need to disprove the supporting facts also.No need to take the trouble. I am utterly unconvinced by your posts alone and my quick skim through your book.
Also, I never claimed to be infallible. That's a claim made by smooth tongued deceivers.Fine for the not infallible comment (though kind of makes you a disappointing messiah). But don't say "smooth tongued deceivers" if you want to sound credible. It sounds pompous and conspiratorial.

Regards.

By the way, Blob, I didn't start this thread nor did I populate it with insults personally directed at me prior to my first post here. Is it spam or free speech when I respond to a discussion specifically about me and about my book? Are free speech discussions supposed to avoid books?

Did you notice in your ten-minute skim that I've gone to great lengths proving that a verifiable ancient symbology with verifiable rules frames and permeates these ancient texts? Or how about that the preface to the book is titled "It's Symbology stupid!" Or perhaps that I've thoroughly reverse-engineered ancient wisdom symbology so people can finally understand it and thereby truly understand they have been lied to by religious leaders? As I've already said, anyone who isn't expert at ancient symbology and claims to understand what these symbolically encoded texts say and represent is lying, pure and simple. Anyone, whether atheist or theist who draws conclusions based on a literal reading of a verifiable symbology is walking the path of folly. No one has accurately decoded the symbology in these texts for thousands of years, hence every one of the three Faiths of Abraham and related secret societies are based on blatant deception.

As I said to you earlier, there is no truth without discernment. Painting everything with the same brush hides the differences between truth and lies, wisdom and folly. The Hebrew texts are rife with error as well as truth and wisdom. The New Testament is primarily a purposeful deception based on recast and methodically misrepresented Hebrew wisdom symbology gleaned from stolen texts. Tell us again about how religions, which claim their texts are the unmodified "word of God" are somehow good for people when they are easily proven to be purposeful deceptions. Why would an atheist and scoffer of things spiritual have a positive view of religion?

Regarding your messiah quip; Why should you say that I’d be a disappointing messiah if I was fallible? Do you actually believe the Christian spin on a Hebrew prophecy? A messiah's (messenger, angel, star) primary purpose is the delivery of targeted knowledge and wisdom to improve the state of human awareness and existence, not to seek worshippers. Once again, seeking worshippers are the actions of smooth-tongued deceivers. Why do you have a problem with the term "smooth-tongued deceivers" when it accurately describes most religious and political leaders? Do you think that modification and embellishment of the truth results in truth? Think it through…

Did you notice that the Doctrine of Two spirits lists religion and hero worship under the Spirit of Evil, in the same grouping as ignorance and fear? Tell us Blob, what's more important, substance or presentation, or how about truth or vanity? What does the symbolism of "seekers after smooth things" mean and how does it relate to lies, spin, and the symbolism of the bottomless pit? What does a sharp two-edged sword issuing from my mouth symbolize and how does that relate to equivocation, deception, and smooth tongues? You forget, I'm the ancient source and the bearer of the symbolism that permeates these ancient texts. I know that reincarnation and souls don’t fit into your cosmology, but he evidence supports souls, not intelligent matter. The texts and the symbology, which I've verifiably decoded, are not new but the ability to finally understand them in a modern context certainly is. Why do you seem to be going to great lengths to discredit my efforts before reading my book? Are you that afraid of proof of a spiritual aspect to our reality?

By the way Blob, what's the title of your book? What research have you undertaken and what discoveries have you made that you're also willing to weather an onslaught of scoffers in order to prove? Would you undertake such a daunting task for no profit while knowing ahead of time that it puts your life in grave danger? Would you do so through many lifetimes and throughout many ages, knowing that people are going to spit on you and throw stones at you?

We need to stop communicating like this "blob". I see you have the ability to ask and post more positive questions on other topics. Let's try to elevate this discussion out of the mud and onto something more enlightening. Ask me about cosmology or perhaps how ancient wisdom dovetails with the latest observations in quantum physics and string theory. I know you haven't been able to infer what I reveal in this area from a 10-minute skim of nearly 600 hundred pages.

Better yet, why don't you explain to the members of this forum the true nature of our 11-dimension holographic reality and how it was accurately modeled by an ancient symbology created thousands of years ago? Then expound on how and why efforts to decode that symbology have failed, until now? How about the fact that the proper interpretation of ancient Hebrew symbology directly and perfectly matches the latest models in string theory? Or how about the differences and relationships between dimensions 1-7 (implicate order) and 8-11 (space-time). How does each "realm" relate to thought? Do you understand the nature of Karma and how it relates to cause and effect, the implicate order and the seven "unseen" dimensions that both precede and define space-time? Did you notice in your 10-minute skim that dimensions 8-11 match my birthday, which is also 8-11 and the date of the 8-11-99 Grand Cross alignment, solar eclipse, and meteor shower, and that another 8-11 is just around the corner? Or that 8-11-2005 is my 50th birthday and ancient prophecies associate Melchizedek, 50 years and the long expected Jubilee, which is announced by 7 Shofar (Ram (adult lamb) horns)? Did you notice that the Lamb in the Apocalypse has 7 horns, as do seven angels, which are also symbolized as seven stars in my right hand? Since this is all symbolism, what does it mean? How does it relate to very specific lies inserted into the Apocalypse by the founders of Christianity to establish the concept of churches? Does proof of such a profound deception say anything important about the Vatican and most world leaders?

Did you notice that dimensions 1-7 match repeated ancient associations of the number 7 with the realm of thought and spirituality, and that there are seven "heavens" (pure symbolism again!) or spiritual realms or layers that likewise match "Wholeness and the Implicate Order", by David Bohm? Did you notice that modern string theory and ancient wisdom are discussing the same things now, but are using different modeling methods (math vs. symbology)? How does one bridge the differences between these two bodies of wisdom thereby forging a cosmology that incorporates modern science and ancient wisdom? Who was prophesied to do just that? How do the prophecies say that people will initially react to my actions? What will be the fate of those who array themselves against me? Remember, "its symbolism stupid" is the title of the book’s preface...

I go to great lengths detailing redundant and synchronous facts that are linked by the number 11. The number 11 is the hidden numeric key designed to unlock these ancient encoded (sealed) texts and help reveal the truth about many things. Did you notice that the two primary numbers in the Apocalypse and in ancient wisdom symbology are 4 and 7, which add up to 11? Did you notice how 11 matches the physical image of two candlesticks and two pillars, which are symbolizing Truth and Justice, as I show on the book cover? Did you notice that Truth and Justice are in positions 1 and 7 (the first and last) on the Seven Spirits of God outline or that "first and last" in the Apocalypse translates to mean True and Just? How does that relate to the symbolic meanings of Melchizedek (King of Righteousness, Lord True and Just...) and the Teacher of Righteousness? What does righteousness symbolize and translate as? Or how about that Solomon's temple was said to have two pillars at its entrance, yet no one has ever found a physical temple associated with Solomon? Notice the following verse attributed to King Solomon?

Proverbs 9:1
Wisdom has built Her house, She has hewn out Her seven pillars.

How does a feminine wisdom hew out Her seven pillars? How does that relate to the symbolism of "without hand" and symbolic stones and mountains? How does symbolic stone relate to the "two tables of stone" and how does that knowledge provide proof that the Ten Commandments are an ancient lie inserted into an originally symbolic narratives by Levite priests? Notice the obvious relationship between two candlesticks and two pillars and seven candlesticks and seven pillars? Notice how that coincides with the Doctrine of Two Spirits (ways, paths, inspirations), seven spirits, seven angels, seven stars in my right hand, and to the eleven stars bowing to me in the Book of Genesis? What do 11 stars symbolize? Did you get that in your 10-minute skim?

Also, recent findings in string theory prove that we exist in an 11 dimension holographic reality, yet even at the lowest levels of existence there appears to be order and intelligence? How does the symbolism of "Earth, Water, Air and Fire" and the cross relate to string theory and holomovement? How many repeating coincidences that perfectly match ancient wisdom texts and the now verifiable structure of ancient wisdom symbology does it take to prove an intelligent signal in the noise? Is it 10 minutes skimming worth or perhaps several thick chapters? Can an unintelligent and lifeless universe make promises thousands of years ago and then fulfill them using massively redundant symbolism to frame a series of related events and then synchronize them with spectacular astronomical alignments that perfectly match ancient texts and my births and deaths through many ages? As I said, opinions and theories based on false premises have a way of being upset by truth, wisdom and justice.

I present verifiable evidence of a "strong signal in the noise," not of an unwavering relationship of every occurrence of the number 11 (or other pivotal numeric symbolism). It would defeat free will for everything to synchronize around the number 11 (or others), but producing a signal in the noise that can be discerned by those seeking wisdom serves as a teaching aid. The occurrences I present are verifiably linked to ancient promises that are now unfolding in ways unexpected and unnoticed by most, yet are completely and easily verifiable once you know the key. That's why the math I use is simple yet redundant. I provide simple yet massively redundant and synchronous proofs of the existence of our Creator and proof that SHE is not any of the "gods" expounded by the Three Faiths of Abraham.

Please explain to the members of this board why it's correct to refer to a spiritual being without physical form as She and why it is incorrect to use He? What does that say about the stories and images of a male god with physical form that has an only son? Did you also notice how Solomon refers to wisdom as She, as does the personification of wisdom (Sophia)? How about that the Dead Sea Scrolls and other texts speak of the God of Wisdom? Did you infer that from your 10-minute skim? Do you truthfully expect to have the woof and warp of the universe and solutions to an entire genre of 6000+ year-old of mysteries explained properly in an online forum through counter insults? Are books now useless to the imparting of wisdom now that we the internet and shortened attention spans?

Show us all now how much you truly know about ancient wisdom symbology by proving that my research and reverse-engineering efforts are no different than everything else out there. Please, tell us all which books provide the same information as this book. When in doubt, tell the truth, and move on. Lies come back to haunt you in unexpected ways and certain lies carry a much higher cost of unexpected blow-back (bad karma) than others.

Once again, you are confusing what I've written with numerology. I never said that the number 11 had power and that every instance of it should cause effects. I specifically and strongly discount that line of reasoning as faulty. Once again, I'm demonstrating a signal in the noise, that uses the number 11 to send a specific message and part of that message is that mysticism, as you've just framed it, is a faulty view of reality. On the other hand, symbolism based on specific numeric keys is being used to send a specific and massively redundant message to humanity. Do you see the difference? Numbers are only labels (symbols). They have no inherent power in themselves. They are message conveyers only, just like words. The gist of this scenario is that the universe is not intelligent, but is intelligently concieved and directed. On the other hand, the spin put on this situation by the three Faiths of Abraham is false doctrine and delusion. Yes, there is a Creator, but She most definitely is not the image presented by the Judeo-Christian-Islamic crowd.

Tell me guys and gals, what do you hate most, religion and its effects on us all or the concept that there might actually be a Creator of the universe. What if that creator approves of science and wisdom and opposes the concepts of religion and mysticism because they are ignorance and the opposite of freewill. How would such a spiritual being approach the problem of redeeming Her creations while preserving their freewill? That would be through knowledge and wisdom, not by sending a divine son to override everyone's freewill.

The purpose of well-timed and ultimately verifiable events is to set up a situation that delivers specific messages that cause humanity to finally understand the truth and to turn away from ages-old folly.

If all occurences of the number 11 had power unto themselves, that would be a violation of your free will. Consequently, they have been tied to very specific events at very specific times and done so redudantly so you eventually get the intended message, even if it takes several ages.

There's more to come, so be prepared to learn something new...

Hello again Melchizedek.

I had the feeling you weren't coming back again. I feel honoured what with there being 6 billion of us to reach.

But your bombardment of exam-type questions regarding the content of your book is unnecessary. If I had claimed to read it and you disbelieved me perhaps they would be appropriate. But they are not. I made it clear I only skimmed through (what a shame for you I said 10 mins and not 11 mins! or even better "about 8 to 11 mins".) As such your questions amount to argument from ignorance again - a charge in my previous post you failed to address for some reason.

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
By the way, Blob, I didn't start this thread nor did I populate it with insults personally directed at me prior to my first post here. Is it spam or free speech when I respond to a discussion specifically about me and about my book? Are free speech discussions supposed to avoid books?You are here to promote your book and to convince others of your pre-decided opinions. These forums are for mutual dialogue, not promotion or prosletysing.
Tell us again about how religions, which claim their texts are the unmodified "word of God" are somehow good for people when they are easily proven to be purposeful deceptions.Many people draw strength and comfort from their religion. For others it is the centre of their social life and they would be stuck at home without church activities. There is also good evidence that the faithful have better recovery rates due to an optimistic disposition. In past time, when life was harsh, religion provided a sense of control and provided important ritual to give a sense of structure. Throughout the so-called dark-ages it was the clergy who carried the candle of human knowledge, however misguided they were. Indeed, christianity arguably takes the credit for inventing the univeristy and school system. Still, I know you will not budge "one iota" on this issue.
Why would an atheist and scoffer of things spiritual have a positive view of religion?Because my atheism is a reflective stance, not an agenda or manifesto. I am not an American freethinker feeling the need to battle against the religious right. My personal beliefs are just that and I enjoy thrashing them out with others.
Regarding your messiah quip; Why should you say that I’d be a disappointing messiah if I was fallible? Do you actually believe the Christian spin on a Hebrew prophecy?Fine, my conception of a perfect messiah comes from western christian culture. Still a disappointment though.
Why do you have a problem with the term "smooth-tongued deceivers" when it accurately describes most religious and political leaders?Yes smooth-tongued deceivers accurate describes some high-profile people. But not all by any means.
By the way Blob, what's the title of your book?Whether or not I have written a book has no bearing on your argument. What a fallacious line of reasoning. As it happens I used to be a teacher and have written three books for children. So what?
What research have you undertaken and what discoveries have you made that you're also willing to weather an onslaught of scoffers in order to prove?Again, a fallacious line of argument. Whether or not I have undertaken research has no bearing on anything. Once again as it happens I am a researcher by profession and write and publish reports and academic journal articles all the time. I have to go through the "onslaught" of peer review and academic debate to defend my work all the time. So what?
We need to stop communicating like this "blob". I see you have the ability to ask and post more positive questions on other topics.That's because others are here to engage in mutually beneficial dialogue. Plus they don't claim to be King Solomon which gives tham a tad more credibility.
Did you notice in your 10-minute skim that dimensions 8-11 match my birthday, which is also 8-11 ... etc ...Happy birthday for the 8th of November but I refuted your number claims in my last post and you have failed to respond. You also failed to address my challenge to demonstrate how it applies to every poster in this thread. To paraphrase you: Are you that afraid of proof of a rational basis to our reality?
Also, recent findings in string theory prove... etc ...String theory is speculative and has proved nothing. Not that it would mean much for your theory if it had, but just to point it out.
Show us all now how much you truly know about ancient wisdom symbology by proving that my research and reverse-engineering efforts are no different than everything else out there. Please, tell us all which books provide the same information as this book. You are not stupid and you have done a lot of work. Now people won't take you seriously. It must be frustrating. I read a hell of a lot of non-fiction books but do not have time in a single life to read them all. I am therefore unfortunatelty forced to use discretion and make a judgement of quality when I chose my reading material. Of course, you are arguing from ignorance again. "You have not read every book therefore you must read my book". I could turn this on you: you have not read every book in the world so how do you know there is not one out there that would refute you?

One last thought. You did not have this credibility problem when you published On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies in 1905. It was much more scholarly than your current work and received international attention, boosting you into the public eye. Why not go that route again instead of scurrying about on internet forums with a free-download and getting frustrated that people mistake you for... well, this lot (http://www.crank.net/prophecy.html).

Regards.

(Note: I’ve fixed some typos in this post but the key information is the same)

First I'll apologize for not bothering to answer the most recent posts. This information and my other tasks have taken precedence. I'll return here in the near future but my other responsibilities are calling for now.

As I said yesterday, there was more on the way, so be prepared to learn something new. Before I continue, notice today's date is June 29 and 2+9=11. Keep in mind that I forewarned you yesterday that something else was coming. Now I'm going to demonstrate another solid example that numeric symbolism is being used by our Creator to frame current events and convey specific messages to humanity. Don’t confuse this with numerology. It’s based on ancient wisdom symbology, not mysticism. Numbers have no inherent power; their purpose is to serve as labels to convey symbolized information, as I’ll demonstrate again.

Here's the next lesson in humility, which is a necessary prerequisite to gaining wisdom:

Today there were dramatic developments in the London bombing investigations and manhunts. Remember that the cover and contents of my book assert that the Vatican secretly rules planet earth and is the ultimate source of most conflicts and terrorism, exactly as they were while they openly ruled Eurasia before being unseated in the early to mid 1800's? This situation is purposely modeled in the Apocalypse to serve as proof that the Vatican is symbolized as the Angel of the Bottomless Pit (herald of the strong lie or strong delusion), among other things.

Now you get first crack at some dramatic evidence that the Vatican and Papacy never changed character, but simply became better deceivers to hide their true nature and evil activities. The information I relate could only have been framed to happen as it did and when it did by an intelligent Creator. The people involved had freewill and chose to do evil, but the Creator caused things to unfold in a way that would lead to eventual truth and justice. Yes, I'm saying that our Creator is providing us with specific clues showing that the Vatican and its cohorts are the hidden source of most wars and terrorism. Also, that our Creator is intervening in human affairs to ensure my success at long promised deeds. Don't scoff just yet. Prepare to be further enlightened about another key aspect of our holographic, 11-dimension reality.

- On 7/7/2005 London was attacked by four suicide bombers.
- On 7/21/2005 four more attackers' bombs failed, leading to an intense manhunt.
- On 7/28/2005 I specifically warned you that something was about to happen that would teach you something new.
- On 7/29/2005 three bombers in London and 1 in Rome were arrested. Notice how one of the bombers sought refuge in Rome, the locale of the Vatican? Now pay close attention to the numeric symbolism that flows out of this situation. First, the digits of today's date are 2+9, which equal 11. Surprise…

On the first date above, we see the numeric pattern (7/7) of the Doctrine of Two Spirits outline of Good and Evil, and dualism, each with 7 "spirits" (ways, marks, characters) listed. You can see this on my home page at the URL in my signature below and on the book cover. The simple message here is that you are being given significant insight that will help humanity understand the truth about good and evil in this world.

Next, we have 7+7+2+0+0+5, which are all the digits in that date. That gives us the number 21. That's important because 21 is a triangular number, meaning that its the sum of an uninterrupted series of integers (whole numbers), which when arranged as a series of points or dots with one additional dot on each new line, forms an equilateral triangle. The number 3 is the smallest of triangular numbers. Such a triangle has three sides with the same number of points or units. Since 21 is the sum of the integers 1 through 6 (as well as 7+7+7) the resulting triangle has three six-point sides, hence 6-6-6. Look familiar? The Apocalypse repeatedly associates the number three with the Vatican and its deceptions and 2+1=3, also, the simplest triangular number. Three is also used to symbolize and mark secret societies because of their regular use of numerology based on the numbers 3, 6, and 9. For more information on triangular numbers and their use as symbolism, read the definition and cross references for the numbers 153, 36 and 666 in the Apocalypse Symbol Guide (Chapter 7). Also, contemplate the triangle above the pyramid on the back of the USA seal and on the one-dollar bill. This is widely understood as the symbol of the super-secret illuminati. Notice that the shining eye is in a triangle, which the Apocalypse associates with the Vatican? Also that the simplest pyramid is formed using 3 triangles (3+3+3=9) Notice that I also assert that the Vatican secretly controls the secret societies that world leaders belong to? There's more…

Next, Fourteen (7+7 again) days later, on June 21st (7/21), four failed bombings in London occurred. Notice the day number again (21 [6-6-6])? Also, 7+21=28 which is the next triangular number after 21 and also the sum of all integers from 1 through 7. Notice the 1 and 7 pattern mentioned in my earlier post and throughout Chapter One in my book? Also notice that on June 28 (yesterday), I told you another lesson was coming?

Note: In a later post Borghunter asked why I added the numbers differently. Notice also that 7+2+1=10. In my book, I also reveal the truth about the 10 commandments. Read the definitions for "Ten horns" and "Two Tables of Stone" to see how this relates directly to the Vatican’s lies. There is something profound to understand here, don’t just scoff and bury your head in the sand, take the time to read the definition. It’s free.

Next, we have today's (7/29/2005) arrests and one was amazingly in Rome of all places. Notice my repeated references to the Vatican and Rome throughout my book and on the cover? So, first 2+9=11 again. Then 7+2+9=18 and of course, 18 is the sum of 6+6+6 and half of 36. Next, 7+29=36. Guess what guys and gals? 666 is the most famous of all triangular numbers and it's the sum of all integers from 1-36, so the number 36 symbolizes 666 because it’s the triangular root of 666. Notice that on 7/29, which encodes 11 (truth and Justice), 18 (6+6+6) and 36 (triangular root of 666), one of 3 London terrorists was arrested in Rome, the home of the Vatican, and Apocalypse verse 13:18 specifically associates 666 (3 sixes) with the Vatican.

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Revelation 16:19 (reconstructed) (Note: this was updated to the correct version)
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of God’s wrath.

Use Chapter 6, "Apocalypse Reconstructed" and Chapter 7, "Apocalypse Symbol Guide" to decode these verses. All of the symbols are underlined in Chapter 6 and defined in Chapter 7. Remember, it’s symbology...

How many coincidences does it take to finally discern an intelligent pattern among the noise? Isn't the ability to discern patterns from among the noise a mark of intelligence? Consequently, the failure or inability to discern them is a measure of one's lack of intelligence. Mere unconnected and meaningless coincidences or have most people perhaps been blind to obvious knowledge all around them? Notice that the messiah was supposed to make the blind see again? Could that have been symbolism purposely misrepresented by the New Testament and Christianity? Why does 666 point to and mark the Vatican, the self-avowed mother and power center of Christianity and the source of the New Testament? Could they be the true anti-messiah? If so, doesn't that mean that the messiah is supposed to oppose religion (which the Vatican heralds) and support science and truth instead? Here is Wisdom.

Next, I repeatedly point the finger at the Vatican and specifically discuss Apocalypse Chapter 9 and verse 9:11 in Chapter 3 of my book (and elsewhere). Apocalypse Chapter 9 and verse 9:11 link terrorism, the Vatican, and secretive sources of terror (scorpions). Notice that verse 9:11 directly matches the date 9/11? Notice that the twin towers match the images of two candlesticks, two pillars, and the number 11? Are these merely accidentally synchronized coincidences or a purposeful pattern in the noise? You can open (expand) your eyes (perception) now and see (understand) the light (truth). Humanity's blindness is self-inflicted and thereby self-curable. Look up the definitions and cross references for the symbols eye, see, sight, light, blind, hear, deaf, and "the dead" in the symbol guide and learn something important about the true nature and purpose of these texts and the precise nature of Christianity’s lies.

This is more proof that there is a Creator and She is now following through on ages-old promises to bring justice to the Vatican and conspiring world leaders, thereby freeing humanity from their great deceptions (money, religion, and politics) and cruelty. Which side will you support, good or evil? Aren't you glad you now have a way to accurately verify which is which using the Doctrine of Two Spirits and the reconstructed and unsealed Apocalypse?

You can play around with numbers all day and see the same number over and over again, because YOU ARE WORKING WITH A FINITE SET OF NUMBERS. If you work with 1 - 11, and get 11 1/11th of the time and claim it's God it work, all that proves is that you're an idiot. Not only that, but you manipulate the numbers specifically to fit your result. Example:

"Before I continue, notice today's date is June 29 and 2+9=11."

"Next, we have 7+7+2+0+0+5, which are all the digits in that date."

"Also, 7+21=28 which is the next triangular number after 21 and also the sum of all integers from 1 through 7."

Why did you add them up differently each time? Wait, let me guess...is it because you're a fucking hack and a putz? Why yes...yes it is!

These posts, which began on InfidelGuy.com, are solid proof that pre-knowledge of future events is at work here. Call in your best debunkers and prove that this has been a mere coincidence. Remember, these intelligent patterns in the noise are proof of many things. Don’t be too quick to scoff; something profound has been demonstrated here, seek to understand it. This is not a matter of faith and belief but proof of the validity of certain aspects of ancient wisdom and the actions of an omnipotent creator speaking to humanity using massively redundant symbolism.

First I’ll answer Borg hunter about why "I add them up differently". The purpose is to demonstrate redundancy. One time is a coincidence, but synchronized redundancy is evidence of a purposeful pattern.

Notice that 7+2+1=10 as well as 7+21=28 and 2+8=10. In my book, I also reveal the truth about the 10 commandments. Read the definitions for "Ten Commandments," "Ten horns," and "Two Tables of Stone" to see how this directly relates to the Vatican. Once again, synchronized redundancy is evidence of a purposeful pattern in the noise.

Thanks for the question BorgHunter because it sets up today’s follow up, which is all about redundant intelligent patterns. The other part of today’s lesson is to remind you that I set the foundation for this over at Infidelguy.com. Blob can tell you that my posts over there are unfolding here (synchronized redundancy). Also, that I specifically gave you forewarning that I was about to teach you something new and profound. The ability to discern patterns among the noise is a recognized measure of wisdom, intelligence and ability. What do you call someone who can recognize and forewarn you of those patterns ahead of time? Perhaps the proper title would be sage and prophet? Are you getting a clue yet? What does a sharp two-edge sword issuing from my mouth symbolize?

Todangst (and?) Blob decided to accuse me of being schizophrenic both here and on Infidelguy.com (a pattern?) and to launch an attack on me and on my book before taking the time to understand the truth. Now I’m proving they were false accusations in a way that also validates certain key aspects of ancient wisdom (two birds with but one stone..). Remember I said that I’m the wrong person to lie to or about? Part of the inference in that statement was directed at the Vatican and three Faiths of Abraham who have together established a world empire over the centuries by telling lies about me, specifically. Also, remember that I said that certain lies come back to haunt you in ways that you’d least expect? Once again, the primary focus of that statement was the Vatican, though Blob was also inferred. Now you are witnessing the beginning of the blow-back (bad karma) that will soon engulf the Vatican in great indignation and lead to its demise.

My previous post relies on information from my book, which has been online for a couple of months. It’s clear by its length and complexity that it’s the product of 3-4 years of effort. Two millennia before that, the Apocalypse and other texts (of which I am the true and original author) laid the groundwork for what I’m doing now. You have documented proof that pre-knowledge of later events is involved here. Chaos theory and the math of odds (among other things) now give you the ability to verify the lack of mere coincidence and that some intelligence is behind all of this. The big question is who, what and how. I’m not asking for anyone to have faith am I? I am instead weathering your scoffing and derision to teach you something profound by using verifiable and previously documented knowledge.

Now back to the London bombing situation and the truth about the Vatican. Yesterday’s date was 7/31/2005. 7+3+1=11 and 7+3+1+2+0+0+5=18. As I mentioned earlier, 18 is the sum of 6+6+6 (look familiar?). Notice the verse number (18) in the following verse? Are these redundant and synchronous 18’s a mere coincidence? This is no random verse and no random discussion.

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Note: As I said in the earlier post, use Chapters 6 and 7 to decode and interpret this verse. Chapter 6 has the symbols underlined and Chapter 7 provides symbol translations.

Yesterday (marked by 11, hence Truth and Justice), there were 21 suspects rounded up, 18 in Britain and 3 in Rome. Once again, 21 is a triangular number that forms an equilateral triangle with three 6-point sides, hence 6-6-6 (look familiar?) Notice the repeated instances of 666, triangles, and pivotal multiples of three in this situation, which is also clearly playing out on another continent? Here we have both synchronization and redundancy that clearly points to Rome and involves terrorism and repeated instances of 666. If you haven’t read the definition of 153 in the Apocalypse Symbol Guide, do so now. It’s online as a free PDF at my web sites. Read it online or download it, for free.

Also, if you pay attention, the symbolism is also pointing at Great Britain. Notice that the leaders of the USA, Great Britain, and Italy (three) formed an axis to go to war in Irag? Did you also notice that the forged documents asserting that Irag was acquiring yellow-cake uranium from Niger, Africa came from Rome and were delivered to the US and British embassies there? Notice that this so-called war on terror started on 9/11/2001 in the USA? What does Apocalypse verse 9:11 symbolize and what does my book say? Can you spell "blow back?"

Is it a mere coincidence when unfolding world events perfectly and redundantly synchronize with ancient texts and my current book? It is a mere coincidence when I warn you ahead of time, in ancient texts, my current book, on this forum and on InfidelGuy.com? How many coincidences does it take to verify a pattern in the noise? How many forewarnings are necessary to prove a prophecy?

Ask Blob to verify that the subject matter of my very first post on InfidelGuy.com was about the Vatican and my book. Now look at how this situation has unfolded over here on this forum. Now I want you to drag your best debunkers over these posts and my book and explain how I did this. I had the courage to enter your "den of lions," do you have the courage to follow up and prove the truth about this information, even if it means you were wrong initially? You also now have even more evidence that something profound is amiss with the Vatican and its stories about Jesus Christ, among many other deceptions. What are you going to do now to help your fellow souls? The time has come to show your true mettle and to get busy to help put the Vatican out of business for good. I’ve given you overwhelming proof of their lies and deceptions. What will you do now?

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
The ability to discern patterns among the noise is a recognized measure of wisdom, intelligence and ability.

I thought that was Scizophrenia?

The problem i think is this. Your a very intellegent person who is suffering from Scizophrenia (and Narssicism) so obviously your dillusions have become extremely intricate. The difficulty for me is that there is nothing we can say to you that will allow you to see sense and for this I am obliged to feel pity for you.

Can you at least agree that using our current understanding of Scizophrenia, you exhibit qualities that would lead most if not all Docters to agree with us on this.

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
Call in your best debunkers and prove that this has been a mere coincidence.
Prove that this is more than a coincidence. You haven't yet.

Hello Teacher.

First I'll apologize for not bothering to answer the most recent posts.It's a shame you didn't because it refuted the techniques you have continued using in your more recent posts.
Call in your best debunkers and prove that this has been a mere coincidence.I already have debunked you in my previous post.
- On 7/7/2005 London was attacked by ...
...
Notice that 7+2+1=10 as well as 7+21=28 and 2+8=10. In my book, I also reveal the truth about the 10 commandments.Your number analysis has been refuted by the Texas Shasp Shooter explanation. Your 'fence' is all the numbers out there in the news and on forums and so on; your 'shot' is the number 11 or 7 or 8 or, now, 10; or any constrcut of these such as 8 + 3; your 'drawing a target' is reaching out and grabbing those numbers which match your 'shot'. You make this explicit when you say " The ability to discern patterns among the noise is a recognized measure of wisdom, intelligence and ability.[/quote]White noise by definition contains any pattern you wish to pull out of it.
Todangst (and?) Blob decided to accuse me of being schizophrenic both here and on Infidelguy.com (a pattern?)The pattern is todangst and loki suspecting schizophrenia independently on different forums. If you are not schizophrenic and people suspect you are you should seriously review your presentation style.

There are still many points of mine that stand unaddressed. I will just quickly point out a couple of things.
These posts, which began on InfidelGuy.com, are solid proof that pre-knowledge of future events is at work here.The fact that you have posted similarly on two forums only proves that you have posted similarly on two forums. Nothing more.
There's more to come, so be prepared to learn something new...You place great significane on this comment - that it proves you knew what would happen the next day. However, the way to write an impressive prediction is to include the details before the event, not after. Something like "tomorrow there will be 3 arrests, 1 in Rome. This can be predicted because the date tomorrow is...etc" would grab my attention.

You are simply rationalising your beliefs to fit anything that happens. It is as clear to see the fallacy as when a medium profoundly asks "is there anyone in the audience called John?". If you seriously think your analysis proves anything whatsoever you are gravely mistaken. Your extraordinary claims are backed by zero evidence.

I see no further use in debating as you clearly are far gone down the avenues of your own introspection. If you see my wish to discontinue as a victory, and I prophesise you will, then feel free.

Regards and good luck.

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Prove that this is more than a coincidence. You haven't yet. I don't think his "evidence" even warrants the label "coincidence". An arrest in Rome... the number 11 can be derived from the date... etc. Just a collection of unremarkable events and details.

Stubborn to the bitter end? Guess I'll have to find a qualified debunker and let them seek the truth of this matter. Scoffing and unproven assumptions are not the same as mathematical proof to the contrary. Locate someone with a backround in odds or chaos theory who knows how to pay attention to the details, regardless of personal opinion.

These are not ramdom facts, random numbers, nor random events. That reduces field of expected results dramtically.

Your opinions are not infallible...

I have a confession to make. I've baited and set-up the members of these two forums (infidelguy.com and allforums.com) to prove a point. You have been part of a demonstration. I started the thread on Infidelguy.com. I don't know for sure who started it here, but that's not important, since I expected it to happen on one or more additional forums. Human activity worldwide has been influenced over the centuries to help prove that your leaders and the Vatican are conspiring together and are the true cause of most of the evil that bedevils Planet Earth. I am not permitted to use money or to take away your free will. My only permitted path was to use human activity and the karma that flows from it to impart targeted knowledge and teach you important lessons, eventually leading to insights and wisdom. I'm proving that your opinions are not infallible, as I asserted early on during this demonstration at Infidelguy.com. Most of humanity has grossly misinterpreted the available data about the nature of this reality and now things are about to go very, very badly if we don't change paths immediately.

Now, sick some true and qualified debunkers on this written record. Not just scoffers without the ability to prove anything, but people with math skills who can rule out (or prove) coincidence and recognize the pivotal significance of synchronized redundancy. The object here is the truth, not debating skills, political agendas, or self-aggrandizement.

The numeric symbolism you've been scoffing at was recorded in ancient wisdom texts and prophecies over the millennia. It, the symbology, the prophecies, history, and current events purposely point to the Vatican from many, many directions. Why? To prove many things and expose many lies using massively synchronized and redundant symbology to model future human activity over many millennia. These aren’t random numbers, nor random topics, nor am I a random soul. These events are unfolding as promised and as modeled, thousands of years ago. In the interim, the Vatican and it predecessors have been deceiving humanity about many things and striving to make you treat me exactly as you and others have been doing of late. Both religious adherents and religious opponents have been kept from understanding the truth, and the arguments on both sides of this divide spring from ignorance about key facts.

I know this is a hard lesson for some of you. I'm proving that you have been purposely deceived about the true nature of reality by the purposeful confounding of humanity's knowledge and perceptions about this universe. Even in these so-called modern times, religious leaders and adherents are still fighting to assert that blind faith is more valid than science. On the other side of the coin, atheists and others are fighting to prove the Creator doesn't exist though evidence abounds to the contrary. Both sides of this struggle are mostly ignorant about the true nature and contents of the ancient texts (among other things) at the center of these ages-old controversies. As I stated in the preface to my book:

"This leads us directly to the crux question: How do we finally solve these ages-old mysteries when ignorance and deception are the obvious goals of religious leaders? To recast an often-used political adage: It’s [the] symbology, stupid! The only truly reliable way to prove or disprove the claims of all three Faiths of Abraham is to solve the great riddles that persist because the keys to interpreting ancient symbology were lost in antiquity.
That is precisely what I have accomplished and documented in this book. I have verifiably solved many ages-old mysteries by fully reverse-engineering and decrypting the ancient symbology that permeates the canons of all three Faiths of Abraham and other ancient texts. After realizing that I was actually observing an ancient philosophical technology, I treated it like any undocumented computer program and succeeded at reverse engineering, reconstructing, and documenting it. The structure, foundations, rules, purposes, and functionality of ancient North African and Near East wisdom symbology and the long-lost Philosophers’ Stone are verifiably reconstituted and documented throughout this book."

I've now demonstrated things that many would call miracles, magic, or simply scoff at without ever trying to understand what really occurred. I'm sure that all of you have heard the saying that any sufficiently advanced technology will seem like magic, miracles, or supernatural feats to those who don’t understand them. That is precisely what happened here. It is also what has occurred with the Apocalypse and other ancient Hebrew texts over the centuries. I am demonstrating proof of the validity of specific ancient wisdom. As I said on my book cover, I've reverse-engineered an ancient symbology that encodes many things. It is an ages-old philosophical technology also referred to as the Philosopher's Stone. I'm sure you recognize that name. I've now provided proof of its validity using these two forums, my book, ancient Hebrew texts, and world events to produce a verifiable record. Everything has been time-stamped and witnessed by various readers on the internet.

Why did I need to arrange this type of demonstration? Read the posts on this thread and on the InfidelGuy.com regarding me, and my book. So, here's a little more proof for those still scoffing.

Sure hope you've been paying attention to the news. In an earlier post I promised you'd learn something new. The conversation before that involved hurricanes and the number 11. After that, I moved the conversation to numeric symbolism about the Vatican (666, triangular numbers, 18, 21, 153, 9-11, etc.) I also talked about synchronized redundancy being the key to proving intelligent patterns in the noise. Now I'll tie up some loose ends by closing the loop and synchronizing these two conversations and the events associated with them. At the following URL, is the updated forecast for the Atlantic Hurricane Season. This was released after our hurricane conversations. Notice the key numbers again? 18-21 named storms, 9-11 hurricanes, 5-7 major hurricanes. Notice that these storms start in Africa and impact America? Notice that the peak of the season is still to come? Below is a direct quote from the article. Notice the numbers and the topic? Just another coincidence or is this a redundant and synchronized pattern in the noise?

"This may well be one of the most active Atlantic hurricane seasons on record, and will be the ninth above-normal Atlantic hurricane season in the last eleven years."

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2484.htm
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/images/hurricane2005outlook-08-02-2005.jpg

What does "coming with clouds" symbolize? What does "walking upon the waters" symbolize? These are very specific parts of the prophecies that have been recast and misrepresented by Christianity. They directly relate to what is happening here and on the world stage.

How many centuries have been wasted through arguing and killing over religion? During most of the last two millennia, the Vatican and Christianity have been in possession of the Apocalypse and other texts that could have solved these controversies, yet they chose to continue deceiving the world. Now, I show up with the key to end this struggle and people turn on me, the messenger, instead. Is humanity insane?

People are dying everywhere and you now have the key to save them and stop all of this evil. What are you going to do to help your fellow souls? Will you finally turn away from vain and damaging pursuits and do what is right for the sake of others? Do you think you are immune to karma?

Notice the projected hurricane season for which the USA is ground zero? Notice what's happening in Yellowstone Park? Notice what's happening in Irag and elsewhere? Are they all mere coincidences? Do you think the calamities at Pompeii, Sodom and Gomorrah, Atlantis, the Indian Ocean, Bam Iran, Florida, and elsewhere happened by mere coincidence? How much proof do you want? Does the USA think it's beyond the reach of the Creator of the universe? Why am I here now? Need I say much more?

I'm proving that your opinions are not infallible,That is a straw man - no one here has claimed their opinions are infallible. It is also another argument from ignorance - a charge you have yet again failed to address.
people with math skills who can rule out (or prove) coincidence and recognize the pivotal significance of synchronized redundancy.I am an academic researcher into the psychology and education of mathematics. I also have a degree in mathematical physics. In my professional capacity I assure you that your theory is nonsense. Your "proofs" are retrospective constructions and merely an example of people's tendency to attempt to render pattern from random data. This misappropriation of pattern where none exists amongst learners of mathematics is well known in my field.

You have been refuted. You have repeatedly failed to respond to those refutations. You have failed to provide a prediction in which you post the specifics of an event before it happens. You have failed to distinguish yourself from the many self-professed prophets who also argue from ignorance and commit the Texas Sharp Shooter fallacy just like you.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SevenStarHand

People are dying everywhere and you now have the key to save them.....
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Why? Thats what people do sooner or later!

Hello SSS, I can appreciate the effort you have put into your research.
I believe that, given enough time, random happenings can become redundant.
I also believe that man-made religions, in their seeking of power and greed, have fooled mankind in general.

I believe that somethings, not everything, can be reduced to a mathmatical equation.

Some, in the past, may have been aware enough of mans capabilities to give advance notice of such.
For you see, I believe that which directs man is not of some mysterious mystical force, but the very basic make-up of all that we see and are aware of.

Our thoughts as well as our actions are the directing force. The two are tied together.
Until man has the capability of unified and directional thought, mayhem will preside.

Sure, I do not know everything about everything. Only the pieces that I should know up to this point.

Best wishes in your endevors.

Hello Blob,

Re: Your "proofs" are retrospective constructions and merely an example of people's tendency to attempt to render pattern from random data.

By your description, all research and discovery is mere retrospective construction. Science documents the laws of nature and the universe by describing patterns in the noise and then repeating them.

Notice what's happening in the Gulf of Mexico now? Storm number 11 (not 9 nor 10) is about to make a redundant landfall. Remember my statements that synchronized redundancy is the key to understanding that these are not mere coincidences? Both the 9th and 1Oth storms failed to make landfall, and now storm 11 is strengthening for its second landfall? Is this a mere coincidence or is it another in a long line of synchronized events that redundantly demonstrate an intelligent signal in the noise?

Is the current hurricane a mere "retrospective construction"? Actually, it's a very proactive construction, as were the previous two stoms, which failed to make landfall. Notice that this is happening in real time and in lock-step with this ongoing conversation on the exact same subject and exact same number (11) and in complete agreement with the descriptions in my book of what occurred in Florida last year? Notice the pattern is being repeated again? Notice what's happening in Europe at the very same time? More mere coincidences?

Is it slightly possible you've made a serious error by going out of your way to call me schizophrenic, thereby choosing to become my enemy? Are you finally getting a clue that both human activities and natural forces are synchronizing to support my actions?

Perhaps you'll eventually learn something profound from this situation. The next time you consider falsely accusing someone of schizophrenia from behind the veil of a bulletin board, you should make sure they don't have the ability to reach out and wreck your entire civilization with a thought.

Hope you enjoy the show...

Hello Einstein.

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
By your description, all research and discovery is mere retrospective construction. Science documents the laws of nature and the universe by describing patterns in the noise and then repeating them.
I agree to some extent and we do see hypotheses that turn out to be imaginings, especially in the social sciences which are my area.

But not all is noise, pattern exists too. The way to know you are not deluding yourself is take make specific predictions. For example, detail precisely the significant events that would unfold with you storm number 11 (sorry I'm not American and naturally don't follow these weather alerts). Impress me - give me a place, a date, a time, a name, a number of dead etc. Something to distinguish you from the vague predictions of 2-a-cent horoscope writers and the like.

Is the current hurricane a mere "retrospective construction"?
Yes. That and counting the hits and ignoring the misses. Were this American storm not happening there are many other events you could find that are "significant". You allude to "things in Europe" for example.
Is it slightly possible you've made a serious error by going out of your way to call me schizophrenic, thereby choosing to become my enemy?
I never called you schizophrenic. I also have explicitly said "you are not my enemy" the first time you pulled out that line.
Are you finally getting a clue that both human activities and natural forces are synchronizing to support my actions?
No but I have stated above the kind of prediction that would do it. This is the second time I have done so. I am being very fair here - I am putting a suggestion to you which if you meet will sincerely impress me.
The next time you consider falsely accusing someone of schizophrenia
I didn't.
Hope you enjoy the show...
Sounds like your signing out of here. All the best.

First of alll Blob, whether or not you personally are impressed or not means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Whether humanity changes course and the great level of ignorance and outright evil subsides are of much greater interest to me. You are merely an entertaining sideshow that will lead others to understand the things you stubbornly refuse to consider.

You are a scoffer of the highest oirder and I doubt you'd be able to recognize the truth before it causes dramatic physical effects to your body or immediate surroundings, which it will...

My answers to your scoffiing and derision have been delivered in the world about you. Are you so blind that you can't recognize that the earth's weather systems are synchronizing to match our conversations? Why didn't storm number 11 dissipate also? Why did storms 9 and 10 fail to make landfall and storm number 11 make two (redudndancy!) landfalls? These are the precise numbers and precise topics we were discussing and they perfectly synchronize with the discussions in my book about last years strange hurricane season.

I'm not going anywhere soon and before it's all over you and others like you will finally understand the truth about many things.

My purpose is to free humanity from the great deceptions and ignorance that are causing such widespread evil. One of those deceptions is the viewpoint that this universe is "set in stone" and can't be modified by thought, when in fact it is the byproduct of collective thoughts. As I said earlier, humanity's collective bad karma is now being used to deliver a series of messages. Bury your heads in the sand and hurl insults if you wish, but things are about to get very interesting and ignoring them and scoffing won't change the outcome.

I've authored many books of prophecy over the ages which were all sealed using ancient wisdom symbology. I've now freely given you the keys to understand them. If you won't bother to understand the truth about those predictions, why should I produce new prophecies and waste time trying to impress someone without the ability to see beyond their own self importance? The time for prophecy is past, and the time for fullfillment has arrived.

Hope you enjoy the show...

Blob I commend you for even replying to this schizophrenic (to which i stand by this term 100%). The fact that he utterly ignores any points of refute, and decides not to answer any questions posed to him has led me to just leave him to his own little world of madness.

He will die alone still trying to convince the docters in white that its all true.

Top stuff Blob :)

Originally posted by SevenStarHand
Why did storms 9 and 10 fail to make landfall and storm number 11 make two (redudndancy!) landfalls?
Again, why did tropical storm #11 (Karl) never affect land? If 11 truly had some significance, wouldn't tropical storm 11 do something?

Honestly, you could compile a list of occurances of 9 as well, and it still wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed on.

Coincidence of note: The two threads currently below this one have 11 replies each. Meaning: Zippo.

So, not a single one of you could manage a mea culpa in the face of massive evidence that you were dead wrong? A little foresight could have saved everyone the results of your arrogance.

I've spent months trying enlighten this "ship of fools." Now, when my warnings come true in dramatic and undeniable fashion, those of you who thought it was somehow cute to elect yourselves as humanity's protection against my messages and warnings, can't even manage to say you may have made a mistake. Katrina is storm number 11 during year 5765/2005. Had you bothered to try and understand my messages, that information was easily discerned, both from my book and the discussions on this forum and InfidelGuy.com.

Well jerks and idiots, you now have thousands of deaths and widespread destruction for your efforts. As I said earlier, you were going to be stubborn to the bitter end, and now it has begun in earnest. I hope you're happy with yourselves. I can assure you, your fellow souls won't be when they read your posts here.

Before you answer without thinking, read the last several posts carefully again. I've given you a solid and undeniable demonstration of who I am and that this is indeed the opening act of Armageddon, which is also properly defined in my book. Sorry you don't like my writing style or presentation, the truth doesn't always fit your preconceived notions. Notice what's happening in New Orleans and my earlier references to Atlantis? Bet you thought it was funny, didn't you?

I asked earlier how much proof you wanted. Now you are getting much more than you bargained for. Perhaps you and others like you will finally open your eyes and pay attention to what is occurring in the world around you. Perhaps you'll understand the absolute folly of attacking the messenger.

You've had the freewill to do what is right and yet you chose another path. Since you've elected yourselves as humanity's representatives and chosen to be my enemy, instead of simply seeking to understand my messages, I now require a public apology from all of humanity. Things have been set in motion now and they won't stop until humanity changes its paths. Nothing you say will change what is now coming your way. Only changing the deeds of humanity by eliminating money, religion, and politics and ending all the evil they cause will stop Armageddon.

Don't bother scoffing any longer, fools. I gave you and many others fair warning and more than ample chances to recognize the error of your ways. Now the time has come to reap what you've sown. Don't blame your impending doom on the Creator or on me. We've given you overwhelming proof that karma is a law of this universe and it can't be escaped. You and many others have chosen to attack me, instead. Now your horrendously bad karma has increased dramatically because you sought to keep others enslaved to age-old deceptions by attempting to silence me, the messenger.

Now the tables have turned, dramatically and decisively. Hurricane Katrina is merely the opening act to what has been prophesied for millennia. Notice what is approaching Japan now? Heed my warnings, fools. There is more to come and attempting to silence me won't stop it. In fact, should the people among you who have already started planning to do me harm somehow succeed, civilization as you know it will be destroyed, just as Jerusalem was during the 11th cycle of Hebrew history, following my death. I've given you solid proof that I have lived through many lifetimes. Should harm come to me or to anyone associated with me, you will understand the true meaning of "The wrath of the Lamb" and why the ancients called me the Archangel Michael. I don’t need a body to complete my task. I am here to lead all of humanity to a new path. I am here to save you from the great calamity you have foolishly created through your ignorance, arrogance, and utter folly. Back off now or this civilization will cease to exist. You will now immediately end all actions targeted at me, my family, and friends, or else.

Since you have elected yourselves as the representatives for the rest of humanity, it is now up to you to spread the word about my presence and your completely avoidable folly.

I have no more to say. You've set the stage and sowed the seeds by your own freewill. It is now up to you to fix the mess you've created. The instructions can be found in my book. I suggest you make sure everyone has heard about it before its too late. I expect more than one reporter to contact me through this forum, at the very least.

So long future refugees...

Well jerks and idiots, you now have thousands of deaths and widespread destruction for your efforts. You sound delighted. Have a beer on me while you celebrate.

If only you'd specified the details before the event your claim of foresight might have a whiff of credibility.
Notice what is approaching Japan now? Heed my warnings, fools.Japan, eh? No actual specific details in your "prophecy" once again, then.

Keep it vague and you will always be right. Every two-a-penny horoscope writer knows that.

After all of the ridicule and struggle I've experienced over the last two+ years, and the many lifetimes before that, trying to warn people and you have the gall to accuse me of being delighted. Do you think I've enjoyed the treatment you idiots have offered? Did I struggle through many lifetimes to be here now because I enjoyed living with a planet of insane fools?

I am more than appalled at this response. You've made your own beds now. Enjoy the nightmares I've tried so hard to awake you from.

I am now sorry I ever tried. I hope you are delighted with yourselves now. You've earned your chosen rewards.

Your posts are increasingly agitated and now you are just issuing insults. You seem to be emotionally affected by this thread to an unwarranted degree. But the rest of us are just getting bored because you fail to address the points made to you.

Take it easy.

Wow.... I mean thats just off the scale mental disturbance your suffering there.

Be interesting to see if someone does attack you physically, I cant exactly blame them if they do.

Also as blob mentioned about your prediction. Youve basically left it open ended by saying "Something bad will happen to Japan", which is a country reknowned for its earthquakes so umm yeh care to be more specific.

Yep...an excellent example of a massive messiah complex, and maybe some paranoid delusions tossed in for flavor. Schizophrenia big time.

There's medication that will help you SSH. I urge you to get some counseling.

Yes I see you are right loki & VP. I've never seen anyone get so worked-up over a thread as to blame other posters for unfolding calamities.

What if that creator approves of science and wisdom and opposes the concepts of religion and mysticism because they are ignorance and the opposite of freewill.

THEN you would have a "creator" that began to conform to the dictates of logic.

SevenStarHand,

I want to party with you, cowboy.
If you are this delusional and God-like (sober and in front of the computer keyboard), just imagine how much fun you'll be with a few Amber Bocks in you!!

We could leave the clubs and bars, and you could cure a few lepers on the way out. If you'd just part the waters of the Delaware for a few, we could tiptoe across the mud and silt to the other side, and you could conduct the Sermon on the Mount. (Please be kind enough to turn my water into wine first though, because I have a feeling it will be a long soliloquy.)

Say, do you have that power where you can make blue fire shoot out of your eyes as well?
There's a few guys I'd sure love to vaporize, if you're so inclined that is.
(I suspect that you are an Old School God, and not at all squeamish about the meting-out of some much-needed discipline.)
If so, I’d sure love to be one of your Apostles. I’m all about the ritual disembowelments, the turning of disbelievers into pillars of salt, and the blue eye-flame vaporizing of the unworthy!

Where can I send a resume and my application?
My name is John, (and I’m a pretty handy scripture writer) so I’ve already got a leg-up on the competition, if I may say so myself.

Many thanks in advance, Your Holiness.

(Thinking to myself now: Gosh. Was I being too forward and pushy there? Some God-like employers appreciate an ambitious self-starter, willing to sell himself, and other Deities prefer their apostle-applicants cut from a more humble cloth. MAN, I hope I didn’t blow it. If He turns that blue eye-flame thingie on me, or unleashes a hurricane on my community, I don’t know what I’ll do.)
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You're funny, sparky sir!
Aren't you worried though that the sevenhandstar guy will try to put a voodoo curse on you? He scares me personally. I wouldn't mess with him, lol.
:woohoo:

Welcome ImmerEssen!

Thankies thankies.
You are a fun bunch. A little cranky and disagreeable at times, but fun all at the same time.
Much appreciated for having me aboard!!
:hula:

A little cranky...True, but luckily we have the likes of sevenstarhand to help us keep our feet on the ground. :woohoo:

and disagreeable at timesWe are not! ;)

Say, this sevenhandstar guy has been gone quite a while.

You reckon he's logged off for good, or is there a chance that the space aliens came back to earth and retrieved him?
:confused:

He's been thoroughly debunked, was called a schizoid, and was told to seek help immediately by pretty much everyone here.

No. I don't think he'll be back anytime soon.