Child Abuse Death Risk High in Military Families

TUESDAY, May 17 (HealthDay News) -- Children from military families are twice as likely to die from severe abuse as other children are, according to a North Carolina study.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/childabusedeathriskhighinmilitaryfamilies

God Bless our troops....
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the war on the war continues

What do you expect from people that use torture as a means of entertainment. Beating their kids is probubly how they "blow off steam" at the end of a day of torturing adults.

more unwavering support for the troops from the real patriot echo2

Remember - the United States military is but a reflection of our society, and is recruited from an all volunteer force. These are your friends and neighbors being spoken of here.

Good point es. But because they are in the military, they are beasts all the way around in Guerilla's view.

the u.s. military is volunteers taken from the poorest and most violent parts of the country, and who are trained to be desensitized to killing. of course their kids get hurt more often when they abuse them. what i didn't see (and of course, i didn't read theb article) was whether abuse was more common or just more deadly. I'm guessing it the latter.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
most violent parts of the country,

Where exactly are the most violent parts of the country?

Another stupid a** study that doesn't prove jack squit about anything. I would like to just once see a study done that is not bias "yeah right!!!"

Echo2, sometimes you can make good points and then other times I think you take wacko a** pills 1st thing in the morning.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
Where exactly are the most violent parts of the country?


places like inner cities where violent crimes are prevalent.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
places like inner cities where violent crimes are prevalent.

My father just retired after 20 years in the US Military; he joined because he had gotten in trouble with the law. The judge had given him the opportunity to join up instead of spend time in jail. Oddly enough, it was my father who had the cool temper and my mother who was prone to excessive physical punishment when I was a child. She was also in the military as well, but only for a couple of years. And only as a medic.

but only for a couple of years. And only as a medic. So she knew exactly where to hit you...
:D

Originally posted by Embyr
Oddly enough, it was my father who had the cool temper and my mother who was prone to excessive physical punishment when I was a child. She was also in the military as well, but only for a couple of years. And only as a medic.

Interesting that the stats show exactly that... the majority of abusers are women. What they do not reflect is why. Sometimes in abusive situations a trickle down happens.

About 12 years ago here in Canada someone at a humane society finally clued in that if an animal is being abused so are others in the house. The one abuses another and the other abuses the next weakest etc. This is not true in every situation of course but I think being alert to the possibility can help save lives.

Originally posted by ~Sal~
Interesting that the stats show exactly that... the majority of abusers are women. What they do not reflect is why. Sometimes in abusive situations a trickle down happens.

Hmm, I didn't think of the why -- good point to bring up. I know that personally, my mother was very young when she had joined the military and then later had me. Being a mother was tough and she often lost her temper. As both she and I got older, things changed and when my brother was born, he didn't experience any abuse like I did. Additionally, as we both aged, the abuse decreased until it stopped when I was like 4 or 5.

Maybe the why has something to do with age and a lack of experience in the real world -- I dunno. But I do know of people who have joined the military because they don't know what else to do with themselves. This insecurity could possibly explain abuse.

Originally posted by ~Sal~
Interesting that the stats show exactly that... the majority of abusers are women. What they do not reflect is why. Sometimes in abusive situations a trickle down happens.

Sal, just asking are you saying that it still is the mans fault? I'm sure it could be but to make it an overall quess I would highly doubt it. I have seen abuse come from both sides the man could be a great guy and the woman a b***h from hell, and the other way around.

Originally posted by mad dog
Sal, just asking are you saying that it still is the mans fault? I'm sure it could be but to make it an overall quess I would highly doubt it. I have seen abuse come from both sides the man could be a great guy and the woman a b***h from hell, and the other way around.

No I don't think it is the man's fault per se unless he is physically or mentally abusing her and the children himself. In many domestic situations the woman can be the powerhouse.

It also becomes shady if he is aware of what she is doing and he does nothing to protect the children. In cases where he is being abused too, I do not think one can lay "blame" but one can certainly lay "responsibility" to get help for the children and then himself. It is apparently a growing social phenomenon where men are abused and embarrassed to speak out.

In most situations where the woman abuses the children she is single, low income and without a strong support system. That is why I think it is easy to say the stats reflect the woman as the most likely abuser overall but we as a society still do not have strong safety nets for women in general who find themselves in teen pregnancy situations or abusive marriages. That also touches on the whole abortion issue as well. But I won't go there in this thread, don't worry.:D

Also until recently the majority of girls were socialized not to show anger. I think that the inability to handle the emotion and realize that it is not the primary or source feeling accounts for many people's (both sexes) inability to express it appropriately.

Originally posted by Embyr
Hmm, I didn't think of the why -- good point to bring up. I know that personally, my mother was very young when she had joined the military and then later had me. Being a mother was tough and she often lost her temper. As both she and I got older, things changed and when my brother was born, he didn't experience any abuse like I did. Additionally, as we both aged, the abuse decreased until it stopped when I was like 4 or 5.

Maybe the why has something to do with age and a lack of experience in the real world -- I dunno. But I do know of people who have joined the military because they don't know what else to do with themselves. This insecurity could possibly explain abuse.

Interesting that you say as she got older she no longer abused. Some of it in her case may have been a maturing and better ability to deal with frustration and/or fear.

I think the why has to do with many things but age and a lack of experience in the real world are very valid points. I am glad for you that the abuse stopped. To constantly live under that fear everyday would not be a great environment to grow up in.

My friend got stabbed by his psycho ex-girlfriend. Then she had them charge him with domestic violence.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
My friend got stabbed by his psycho ex-girlfriend. Then she had them charge him with domestic violence.

Yes this is becoming more common and unfortunately some people are not sympathetic. Years ago when I was apartment living the couple beside me argued sporadically in the middle of the night. Sometimes I would hear him throw her against the bedroom wall that was against mine. It would freak me out. After calling the cops a number of times I was finally informed that it was her slamming him against the wall.

When I told some people at work they thought it was quite funny that she was the one doing the abusing...total lack of understanding and compassion.

I can be blamed for laughing at a guy once when his women beat the crap out of him. Old rednecks seem to look at things different but it sure was funny. My wife got made at me once and through abunch of things at me {gave me a few bumps, cuts, etc...} I still think it was funny and never did get mad at her for it. I quess it's how a person looks at it.

500lbder, I knew a couple of folks that stabbed each other on a monthly happening. Kind of like a game to them and if the cops came they would turn on them. It was better to just let them do their thing. I even knew a lesbian{???}couple that use to have gun fights with 22 rifles in their house, not sure what ever happened too them...........

Sal, thanks for clearing up my confusion, and I agree with you 100%