I have a serious questions for the christian members of this board. Some have stated that they feel persecuted by those who do not believe. Others feel that there is a growing amount of anti-christian feeling/ belief growing in this country and throughout the world. My question to you is...why do you think this resentment is happening (if you feel that it is at all)? Why is it happening at this precise time?

Well...it's not just this precise time. Christian persecution has happened for centuries upon centuries.

I believe the reason for this is the temptations that Satan puts on ones mind and spirit.

Originally posted by jerejerebinks

I believe the reason for this is the temptations that Satan puts on ones mind and spirit.

Give me a BREAK.

What is this even supposed to MEAN?

However, I do agree with you that it is not just "this precise time," in fact, persecution of Christians was much, much worse when it was a new religion, which is pretty typical.

and once they got some power, the tables turned and they delt out persecution like it was going out of fashion.

Minister - Believe in Christ
Man - ugh no?
Minisiter - Then die. Crusader kill him in the name of God.
Man - im sorry what the fu...*sound of gurgiling then death*

Originally posted by Lokideviluk
Minister - Believe in Christ
Man - ugh no?
Minisiter - Then die. Crusader kill him in the name of God.
Man - im sorry what the fu...*sound of gurgiling then death*

NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!

i love being british :)

Originally posted by Tapeworm
I have a serious questions for the christian members of this board. Some have stated that they feel persecuted by those who do not believe. Others feel that there is a growing amount of anti-christian feeling/ belief growing in this country and throughout the world. My question to you is...why do you think this resentment is happening (if you feel that it is at all)? Why is it happening at this precise time?

Christianity (like all religions) has faced persecution at select times and locations since it's beginning.

The basis for every anti/pro religious sentiment has ALWAYS been political.

The Romans (pre-Constantine) killed and persecuted the Christians to control them. The Inquisition started somewhat innocently but spiraled into one the most horrific crimes against humanity in history. The Crusades were a politically motivated attack to control Muslims. Even the current Islamic "jihads" find their base in politics/power, not religion.

The current situation in the US is no exception to this pattern (although not bloody in the physical sense). The Republican party is pandering to the Christians, just like the Democrats pander to the minorities. The Dems have been categorized as the godless, the Republicans the God fearing. It's all about power/control NOT religion (if you think that's what it is, then their methods are working on you).

We are becoming a more polarized society in the US for these and other reasons. I believe that much of this is a "backlash" to the appeasement and political "correctness" movements. The WASPs (males in particular) are fed up with being told how "bad we are/were. From; talk show male bashing, minority rights activists, "feminization" of young males in our society (now Johnny.... you shouldn't ever fight on the playground.... here, have an estrogen pill..... LOL). etc.

::OldPhart gets off his soapbox::

In summary, the persecution of Christians and the persecution of non-Christians are politically motivated. Both sides are generally too "dense" to see it.

Originally posted by OldPhart
"feminization" of young males in our society (now Johnny.... you shouldn't ever fight on the playground.... here, have an estrogen pill..... LOL). etc.


Good morning OP. Do you think that teaching your son that violence is wrong is "feminizing" him?

Originally posted by Vilepagan
Good morning OP. Do you think that teaching your son that violence is wrong is "feminizing" him?

Good morning Vile,

I used the term "feminizing" to illustrate the strange way we treat our boys (and girls) now. Male aggressiveness is now considered "bad", It's not bad - it's natural.

I'm not "condoning" violence, but male aggresiveness IS natural. I believe that we have punished our young males for acting on their basic instincts, esp. in our schools. We used to "fight" when I was a kid and 10 minutes later be eating cookies at each others house.

What I find so strange is the media culture of violence is so strong, but the kids get "mixed" messages from society. It's got to be confusing to them. Violent movies, games, sports, etc. are great! - but don't roll around on the ground wrestling with your buddy during recess - we will suspend you for a week....LOL.

I don't want to sound cliche, but let boys be boys, (but also supervise this behavior, not Lord of the Flies). Humans are animalistic and male animals do fight. It is natural and we should not teach them that there is something "wrong" with acting on your aggresiveness - it should be controlled - not inhibited.

In the schools where I live, most of the fights that occur are between girls, not boys. I just find this very odd and quite concerning.

Aggresiveness in young people is normal. They haven't yet learned to control their emotions and think through feelings. Most people grow out of this, some never do.

Feminization? Doesn't even deserve to be adressed as a serious statement.

So males and females are exactly the same?

Maybe I should use another term (I'm not trying to disparage feminism.... I guess I touched a nerve). I don't believe that girls should act prissy, be subserviant, etc. I also don't believe that boys should be forced into acting as something they are not.

We as a society cannot seem to take a middle path, we seem to always go the way of extremes.