How Far Will The Army Go?

Apr 28, 2005 9:59 pm US/Mountain
How far will U.S. Army recruiters go to bring young men and women into their ranks? An Arvada West High School senior recently decided to find out. The following is CBS4 Investigator Rick Sallinger's report.
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McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_118125046.html

May the military go far enough to conscript you into service.

its weird, we got people actively trying to get people to not volunteer, and we have those same people screaming about a draft, and then they get pissed at recruiters. and of course, they support the troops (except for 500lb "fuck the troops" guerilla :rolleyes:

I wonder how long it will be before one of these flagwavers deigns to make a comment on the dishonest and dishonorable actions of the Army recruiter, instead of attacking the messenger.

Their heads seem permanently planted in the sand.

Watching one recruiter fry. Hmm. It happens. Recruiters are salesmen.
Bring back the draft, do away with most of the recruiters, send them back to regular units.

Every able bodied citizen in the U.S. should do a minimum of 2 years service for their country between high school & college.

It would probably be more beneficial to the workforce if every able bodied citizen eligible for retirement did two years service... Sorry man, but I don't intend to kill anyone unless we're being invaded.

If this one side of the story is accurate, Pickel should be arrested.

That was easy.

Why was the article title "The Army" instead of "a particular recruiter"

Because despicable recruiting practices is the status quo now and days...

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Carloss solicited students like a game booth vendor. A crowd of curious youths gathered around him. They shouted and laughed, cheering on students who accepted the pull-up challenge.

Students held pamphlets and key chains from an Army recruiting table several yards away. They picked up T-shirts and hats from the Marines.

Carloss asked them to fill out cards with their name, address, phone number, age and grade. Students must be at least 17 to enlist. Those younger than 18 need parental consent.

"Are you scared?" Carloss said jokingly to one boy.

Carloss waved down a girl: "Go to one of these boys over here who you think is cute and tell him to do it."

"Who?" she replied.

"I don't care," Carloss said, "as long as he's 17."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_040505Y.shtml
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An I-Team investigation found this high-pressure climate is creating problems. Investigative reporter Dale Russell and the I-Team spent five months investigating what happens to young applicants who sign up for the military then have a change of heart. We traveled throughout the Southeast talking to teenagers, parents, military recruiters and counselors. Our investigation found when young men and women changed their minds, they say military recruiters intimidated, threatened, and even outright lied to them in an effort to bully them into enlisting.

http://fox5atlanta.com/iteam/gilies.html
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There was some other article I read about giving kids the ASVAB during classtime without telling them they didn't have to take it. There many more. Ill post them when I find them.

Originally posted by box19
It would probably be more beneficial to the workforce if every able bodied citizen eligible for retirement did two years service... Sorry man, but I don't intend to kill anyone unless we're being invaded.
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Most of us eligible or approaching eligibility for retirement have already pulled our time in the military.

Yes, we have already served and paid our dues, but, it looks like a guy who served weakly at best, will get his way and get us into another war.

hey maybe things will get better...we'll see
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Army to dress down its recruiters
Enlistment work suspended a day after recruits — including one here — complain

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3176619

Recruiting is probably the only job I would not want in the military. It has been offered more than once, and I have opted for other duty everytime.

A few weekends ago I visited a friend in New York. He had been on recruiting duty since November when he returned from a tour in Iraq. He said he would much rather go back to Iraq than continue recruiting. They have a tough job. They get a real tongue lashing if they do not meet their monthly quotas. But lying is not the answer to get people to enlist. Nor is lying encouraged. All recruiters must go through a training program that instructs them not to deliberately deceive potential recruits. The ones that lie do not represent the honor of the military.

BTW, my friend said there much more positive in Iraq than negative. It's just that the bad news reported far more often than the good things happening.

Originally posted by GW_Rules
BTW, my friend said there much more positive in Iraq than negative. It's just that the bad news reported far more often than the good things happening.
Oh, yeah, my friend just came back from Iraq too and he said there is a lot more negative than positive. Funny, huh? And I've seen interviews with many soliders who say it's really bad in Iraq. And I've seen interviews with soliders who say it's really good in Iraq.

:rolleyes: Funny, right?

Originally posted by Overdose
Oh, yeah, my friend just came back from Iraq too and he said there is a lot more negative than positive. Funny, huh? And I've seen interviews with many soliders who say it's really bad in Iraq. And I've seen interviews with soliders who say it's really good in Iraq.

:rolleyes: Funny, right?


oh ya, well I got a friend who is in iraq now and says its pretty easy, who cares?

Originally posted by Travh20
oh ya, well I got a friend who is in iraq now and says its pretty easy, who cares?
Trav, I'm just pointing out that different soliders from Iraq say different fucking things based on what bias they have. God, catch a fucking clue.

"PS: I know I look bad, shut up."

And just which one are you?

Maybe we should be happy that these recruiters are not luring retarded boys away from home to join the Army the way they did in the Civil War.