Teachings of the Nation of Islam


It is little known that the Nation of Islam teaches that the White man is the Devil, and the Black man is God.



"Lost-Found Muslim

Lessons" or simply as "the lessons."

Within these lessons were the basic elements of an ancient mystery school. It
involved secrecy from outsiders; an esoteric ritual containing keys for
recognition between fellow members; a cohesive world view; and a tradition that
could be explained only to initiates. Central to these teachings were the
knowledge of self and the Black man's godhood. (9) According to these
teachings, the Black man was by nature divine, and in fact was the original
man, ancestor of the human race (antedating Louis and Mary Leakey's discoveries
of early human remains in Africa by nearly thirty years.)

White people, on the other hand, were produced out of Black people by a
scientist named Yacub approximately six thousand years ago. (10) Discovering
a recessive gene in the Black man, Yacub used a system of eugenics on a
group of sixty thousand people on an island and, after six hundred years, was
able to create a biological mutation: the White man. Of course Yacub did not
live to see his creation, but he left behind an infrastructure to propogate
his system, as well as the ideological basis for White supremacy. Bleached
of the essence of humanity, Whites were "without soul." Nonetheless the race
was destined to rule for an allotted period extending to 1914 A.D, though, as
Fard's messenger Elijah Muhammad put it, "a few years of grace have been given
to complete the resurrection of the Black man, and especially the so-called
Negroes whom Allah has chosen for this change (of a new nation and world).
They (so-called Negroes) have been made so completely mentally dead ... that
extra time is allowed." (11) It was also taught that the supreme god amongst
this mighty nation of Black gods commanded the name of Allah. (12) This title
was claimed by Master Fard Muhammad himself.

Fard's deification of man can hardly be considered an aberration in light of
historical precedents. The ancient pharaohs of Egypt, the Aztec emperors, and
the Peruvian Incas who traced their ancestry to the Sun God are well-known
examples. More recently, there are claims of divinity for emperors Hirohito
and Haile Selassie, the Dalai Lama, and Kushok Bakula. (13) And even these
should hardly turn any heads in the light of the tradition of Jesus of Nazareth
as God incarnate. The Hindu avatar tradition would also be right at home in
such company.

The teaching of the divinity of the Black man specifically (a doctrine known as
"incarnation") is said to go back to ancient Egyptian mystery schools; in fact
Khem (and its variants Cham, Ham), an ancient name of Egypt, means "land of the
Blacks." Nor did the doctrine of incarnation start with Master Fard Muhammad
and the NOI; according to Fard's messenger and succesor, Elijah Muhammad, the
knowledge of man as god had been long known but "was kept a secret from the
public." (14)



Tentmaker

This isn't little known, this is widely known. And Malcom X, knew that the history and the religion had been distorted. One of the main reasons he wanted to break from it after he had traveled.
The name of the game was to seek an identity- separate from Asian. And considering the era, normal people would be able to see it. The Nation of Islam was similar to that which Marcus Garvey taught.
The mystery schools of Khemet are no mystery. Incarnation did not begin there.

Pan,

It may be, probably is, well known in the Black community. It is not widely known in the White community.

In what way do the rantings of Malcom X correspond to the doctrines of the Nation of Islam?

What history and what religion has been distorted?

Who ever postulated that the Blacks had an Asian identity?

What ear (period?) are you referring to?

Which of the Marcus Garvey doctrines are addressing?

Want to tell me how many people have ever heard of the Khemet mystery schools?

Where, in your opinion, did incarnation begin?


Tentmaker

You know, I could probably mention some of the persecution and intolerance by the Catholic church and general Christianity over the past millenium, but I won't.

It may be, probably is, well known in the Black community. It is not widely known in the White community.

I disagree, I think that type of knowledge is going to be found where there is interest. People who are keeping one eye on Farrakhan (sp?) are going to be real interested. By the same token there are many black people that either don't know/don't care or are enamored with the separatist view that they are willing to align themselves with it regardless of its foundations. At least to my experience.

In what way do the rantings of Malcom X correspond to the doctrines of the Nation of Islam?

All of them for a period of time, Malcom X read some literature while in prison and then began to correspond with Elijah Poole. By May of 1963 Malcom was appointed minister over Washington D.C. It wouldn't be until Malcom journeyed to Mecca and he would see that Elijah was racist and was way off track and then he began to change his outlook.

What history and what religion has been distorted?

Oh jeeze, Native American, European, Asian, African, its almost better to ask which wasn't.

Who ever postulated that the Blacks had an Asian identity?

I should have said that better. Fard did. This gets tricky, While Fard was creating this "religion" he decided that in the beginning they (blacks) originated from Asia because he felt that blacks might feel shame from coming from Africa. So in order to do that, he attempted to put his own little version of history together stating that is where they originated from...... AT THE VERY SAME TIME rejecting all things Asian(Culture-language, values, customs, norms, etc.) He would also use this to prove that blacks were superior genetically. And as a way to move blacks from Christianity into his quasi-Islamic religion, it came in handy.

What ear (period?) are you referring to?
I am thinking from the late '20's till through the '60's.

Which of the Marcus Garvey doctrines are addressing?
Separatist and black superiority.

Want to tell me how many people have ever heard of the Khemet mystery schools?

A damn lot of them. Again that is going to be based on interest. Everyone that I know is very familiar with them. Although we don't call them "mystery" schools. Because there is no mystery.

Where, in your opinion, did incarnation begin?
Incarnation has been around ..... forever, man, there is no culture that I have come across that hasn't attempted to state that a leader was not born of the divine, but since the earliest known written history dates to Sumeria..... I am going to go with that.

Pan(mis-informed),

That which Malcom X preached was not what the Nation of Islam believes. Nor was Malcom ever a Moslem. He was a radical who excerpted parts of the Islamic doctrine of Jihaad and incorporated it into his rantings.
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You are giving me names of geographical locations instead of the names of religions you claim have been distorted.
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Fard attempted to drive a wedge between the Asians and Blacks. A definite split had already occurred between Blacks and Whites. If you were acute in your perceptions, you would see that he wished to permanently separate the Blacks from the Jews-the very ones he saw exploiting the Blacks.

Fard did teach that Blacks were genetically superior, but he lifted the entire theory from the Talmud. What better way to combat the Jews than to use their religious beliefs against them?
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The period of the 1920s to the 1960s is a span too broken by world events to let one accurately judge the Black movement against. The Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold War overshadowed and colored all other events.
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Marcus Garvey is hardly creative. His real opinion of the Blacks is that they are a race of dogs who must have a master. His thoughts on Arabism expresses this quite clearly.
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The Khement mystery schools are a fraud.
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Re: incarnation. Nothing yet discovered pre-dates the Indo-Aryan culture. Scholars studying the Rg Vedas are now and other works of the Aryans are suggesting the Ancient Aryans have a history dating back some 12,000 years.


Tentmaker

Before I start in I want to make absolutely sure that what you are saying is that Malcom X and the Nation of Islam are not connected? Is this what you are saying?

The religion that he warped was the histories of other religions, and definitely warped the Muslom religion.

It is interesting for us to note that in the most ancient State of Egypt, Khemet, there was never a universally accepted doctrine or sacred text, and that may be in part to the fact that reading and writing were the possessions of a precious minority, whereas the common masses were illiterate peasant-farmers who had no formal education nor means to obtaining such. In Khematic society, we would see that the "state religion", that is to say, the formal institutions of Temple, Priesthood, and what could be labeled as accepted doctrine, were in fact different from private or personal religion. Having no intimate education within the wisdom that was embraced by the various Priesthoods through sacred texts, the ordinary citizens of the Khematic State developed their own traditions for worship and philosophical thought that in some ways mirrored what they were able to witness from the Priests of the State, but in many ways did not. While the highly educated classes of the Priesthood were permitted the luxury of pondering the Universal questions and mysteries, while at the same time receiving tremendous material support and benefits from the state, the workaday classes had no need for the ramifications of sacred literature, and indeed concerned themselves with what was immediate to their suffering. They were obviously concerned with things like social justice, propagation of the family lines, achieving respectability in society, doing what was favored in the eyes of the Divine, and in the future of the Soul after life on Earth came to a close. They were, like ordinary working classes of any society at any point in history, concerned with fair wages, fair treatment beneath the laws of their government, and, more importantly, the most potent ways through which to alleviate immediate suffering and win a peaceful, prosperous existence.

www.livingnuhati.org

And all religions are a fraud. If you trace the changes w/ your Khemet Mystery Schools you will see that they morph with the politics, man.

Originally posted by Pandamonium
Before I start in I want to make absolutely sure that what you are saying is that Malcom X and the Nation of Islam are not connected? Is this what you are saying?

The religion that he warped was the histories of other religions, and definitely warped the Muslom religion.
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My statement is that what Malcom X taught and what today's Nation of Islam teaches are two different things entirely. Too much credit is being given to Malcom. He was not that intelligent and what he taught was borrowed liberally from other more creative thinks.

Malcom X is not connected to the current teachings of the Nation of Islam.


Tentmaker

Originally posted by Pandamonium
And all religions are a fraud. If you trace the changes w/ your Khemet Mystery Schools you will see that they morph with the politics, man.
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No, no religion is a fraud. But they are all false.



Tentmaker

It is irrevelent what three of the four factions are about todayin regard to Malcom and his time in the NOI. As no changes had been made to the original tenents. And it wasn't until Malcom made his pilgramage that he began to see things differently. So those other 3 factions may view Malcom as a radical, NOW but he wasn't a radical within that subculture at that time.

There have been countless "chosen people" outside of the Jews. I don't think that Fard had the intelligence to recognize what was Judaic in nature.I think your giving him way to much credit here. If you weren't Black you were inferior. He was basically a con artist and I think he was counting on the illiteracy of the times to pull him through, and it did.
When he says the white man, he is saying the white man. And when he says blacks were genetically superior, superior to everyone.

I think, and don't quote me on this, that there is something pre-Indo-Aryan and I believe that it is from the Indo-Iranian culture.

No, I don't believe that it is too broad of a year span. Black Nationalism, w/ regards to NOI really picked up in the during the depression, and had the biggest boom in the 1950's. And by the 1960's was encredible and powerful.

Not done here ......... will return.

If we were dealing with something that covered over a hundred years and was directly affected by those other events, then I would take those other events into consideration.

You cannot just make Malcom separate from the history of this organization, because he did his time with them and made a break. It doesn't matter whether or not he would have agreed with anyone of them today, because he isn't living today.
So during his time within the NOI, he would not have been operating completely independent.

In regards to Egypt, I still don't see where the mystery is. A state religion is a state religion is a state religion, and there were many priests that couldn't even read or write. You had specific priests that preformed specific duties and that was that. And just like any other you would have dieties in different towns and such, some without the hierarchy.You could almost say micro/macro.

When you look at their state religion you see a pattern of how they (dieties) were interchanged with whomever was the ruling party at the time. There is no reason not to believe that if a particular ruler was Theban than a diety from that area would become top man on the totem pole.

For crying out loud look at Set and Horus. Set was a great guy, until the unification of Egypt, then he is a bad guy. He is only a bad guy because his side lost although it was not uncommon for him to be invoked. The name of the game is to make the losing side the most horrendous and really needing the but kicking at the time. By the late Third Intermediate Period, he was down right evil.
You see a lot of that when you start comparing what was written with what was happening during certain times.
I don't believe that you will find any major religious anything among the lower classes. You may find funerary steles, if they could afford it. But I haven't seen anything that says anything about faith. I have come to the conclusion that you have a problem when analyzing this, you have to do a lot of guesstimating here because the lower the classes the less likely you will be to find anything in great detail of how they thought and what they were doing. Lack of records that they personally kept due to inability to read or write.
It is very much possible, because of the above, that even if you find within their homes alters or what not, you have no evidence of faith. You see it today with people claiming one religion or another and going through the motions.
I have this problem with Roman history. Big ones on doing something for the good of the state not necessarily for the good of an individual unless you count not dying as good for the individual. And because your dealing with a state religion, you are dealing with a concept of space. Which means you absorb because you don't want to piss off anything in regards to whatever space they come from..... just in case.

All religions are frauds if you take them at face value.

Pan,

It can't be. Religion is defined as the "service to and the worship of a god". The serving and the worshipping isn't a fraud, its a falsehood.

Now if a religionist uses his religion to con others into believing in the falsehood, then he is committing a fraud.


Tentmaker

falsehoods =lie; fraud=lie;

I would almost agree with the first statement but I would have to say that the falsehood could only be determined by any said individual based on intent.

Pan,

Is not the intent of all myths to deceive? Sure they are lies. But they are not frauds till they are dissiminated by the adherents for the purpose of adding believers to the cult.


Tentmaker

How does it change if you are walking in knowing what is going on? Intent of the individual.

Pan

Walking in sure knowledge of deceitful intent and acting accordingly rises to fraud.

"Intent" is the pivot on which the matter must be defined.


Tentmaker

I disagree, or at least we disagree at this point.
I propose that it is possible to walk into a religion knowing before hand of the fallacies, yet submerging oneself in the dogma for a specific purpose....... aware..... for a limited amount of time to attain said goal or purpose (aka spiritual growth). That would be intent. And while to an outsider it may look like fraud..... if your defending the religion that would be pushed onto others.. to one who wouldn't be caught up in the bs, it would be beneficial.

Pan,

If the myth be a lie, then the dogma is a lie. Can living and performing according to a lie bring spiritual growth? Perhaps, but one would hope there might be surer ways to attain that goal.


Tentmaker

2 things to consider:

1- is there a formula, and what is the outcome?
2- intent

Pan,

There is a formula for ancient Greek, Egyptian, and Sumerian myth. The product of those myths (ancient methods of teaching vital principles) are religions. The product are lies in that it is not true to the original intent of the myths.

Tentmaker

Let me try this again. All religions have rituals contained within them. There is a way to utilize a particular set of dogma's for a limited period of time to obtain what you are seeking without becoming meshed in the dogma or "living a lie".

If enough energy is applied to a diety or whatnot, over time that diety takes on a life of its own. And this diety contains all of the characteristics that the energy from others have given to it.
The same is true of all thoughts. So you could access a particular set of dogmas containing whatever elements that you wish to incorporate into oneself or balance oneself for a select period of time.

Pan,

True, most religions do have their own peculiar set of rituals. Followers of those religions are expected to adhere to the demands of those rituals. Its an "entraining" thing used for thousands of years to control the believers.

It is probably possible for one to practice a religion for a specific reason and not be caught in the net of dogma. However, not everyone is able to determine what the dogma of a given religion is. So there is the chance that a follower just might be ensnared by the lie.

In the last paragraph of your post, you seem to be appealling to the metaphysical belief that "thoughts are things", as a base for your argument. If that be the case, then you should be aware that that which you think and act out in your deceit also becomes a living thing, and it you must deal with at some future time. Here we come to the old biblical admonition, "As you sow, so shall you reap."


Tentmaker

That is exactly what I am saying and yes, there is an opposite to everything.

There are certain rules to live by when doing that. If you are going to follow that route you need to know the history, politics, economic factors of any period of time.

Pan,

My thought is that it might be a better thing if one more fully understood oneself and one's motivations for pursuing such a course.


Tentmaker

I agree. In fact that is one of the most important things to consider.

Pan,

So why not give religions the heave-ho and pursue a knowledge of the self?


Tentmaker

That is what you are doing.

Pan,

This is what I've been doing for a number of years. No religion will lead you to enlightenment. They are all too biased.


Tentmaker

All religions, have a system that will allow you to obtain "enlightenment" so you can say screw the dogma and skip it all together and still get to where you want to go w/ or without the dogma.
But, I also think there is something to be gained from working with esoteric "rays", if you will. I can't for the life of me at the moment think of a better word although I know one exists.

I can't agree that all religions "have a system that will allow" one to become enlightened. It is my opinion that codified religions tend to lead one away from the knowledge/experience that brings universal awareness.

There is much to be gained from various mystical systems. The two most prominent are Buddhism and Zen. My belief is that Mahayana Buddhism could better serve the world than the Semitic religions, Chriatianity, Islam, and Judaism. Though Zen is a more effective system for reaching enlightenment, few Westerners understand it and are willing to adopt it.

There are many systems of Esotericism. Probably the best known is The Theosophical Society. It has been around for more than a hundred years and some well known people have been members of that society. My criticism of the many Esoteric systems are their tendency toward complexity. Seems they think the more complex a thing, the more profound a truh it is.

My findings has been that awareness is to be found in simplifying things. The more simple, the better.


Tentmaker

I know the Theosophical Society. But I am also of the mind that I would never have gone far following Eastern religions as we have completely different cultures, diet etc., I wouldn't make things harder than they actually have to be.
Not that I don't appreciate it. But it would be impossible for me to immerse myself in that kind of a thing. I am not attracted to it, in the least.
Absolutely, simplifying is always best. When I am speaking of the formula, I am speaking about different aspects taht come through, You will find periods of abstination, daily rituals or prayers that will up your level of awareness, some type of meditation and it is usually in preparation for whatever information you are seeking or any ritual that you would getting involved in. Its pretty simple in that way. Now you can do it without being involved in any religion, I am just saying it can be done. While some people can sit down and meditate right off the bat, other people need to work almost from the outside to the inside usually by appealing to their 5 senses.

Pan,

The "hardship" attending some Eastern religions and mystical systems is seen as a way of divorcing the "desire self" (that is, the body) from the "mind self". The harshness of the Zen schools is directed toward that end.

Meditation is central to attaining awareness. It is taught in most religions of the world. There are those religions that demand it of their followers. The smallest benefit one derives from it is the ability to concentrate, a thing missing in far too many people.

A key proposition of most religions is the letting go of the Five Senses while meditating. In Buddhism it is called "extinguishing the flame". There are, on the other hand, those religions that appeal to and promote the use of the Five Senses and the enhancing of the carnal desires. Islam is the largest of these.


Tentmaker

I think the protestant work ethic is a pretty good show
Yes, concentration is one of the great benefits derived from meditating, there are other occult practices that utilize the same methods. What you are doing w/one is creating an atmosphere a mood, and yes, utilizing 5 senses to create an atmosphere is Western.
I meditate and I think its wonderful. I also think its most wonderful when you can do it without interruptions.
I have used and still use the Kabbalah. That is a definite late in the game addition, but an awsome one.

For those who may be lost when there is a mention of the Kabbalah and mysticism (Jewish), Maamorim of The Alter Rebbe had this by way of explanation:



The Torah is G-d's knowledge, which means that it is infinite. Therefore, there are different levels of the Torah, one deeper than the other. The hidden mystical aspect of the Torah is called Kabalah. Kabalah is often compared to wine; just as wine is hidden in the grape, and by squeezing the grape, wine is obtained, a similar analogy can be made with the Torah and Kabalah. The deepest and highest level of the Torah is Chassidut, which is compared to oil. Oil floats on top of all liquids indicating its superior quality. At the same time oil makes everything oily. Another characteristic of oil is that all substances contain oil. If any substance is pressed enough oil will be obtained; therefore oil is contained in the essence of everything. Chassidut is also the essence of the Torah, and within it is contained all the other levels. In Chassidut, not only are the mystical and Kabalistic dimensions discussed, but all the other levels are an integral part. Chassidut unifies all the different levels of the Torah for the purpose of elevating the world and the person himself, to make the world and the person G-dly. As a result the world becomes a dwelling place for G-d and causes the coming of Moshiach, the ultimate purpose of creation.


Tentmaker